Hi, Does anyone know if there is an update to XDA IIi to Windows Mobile 5.0.
I know there is one for the Himalaya version of XDA.
I have spoken to 02 and they say that it is highly unlikely and would be releasing the XDA II Exec with WM2005. Any info would be gratefully received.
Mod edit: Please be sure to mark requests with [REQ]
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And there is currently no WM 5 for that device.
Can't the admins just delete these threads and/or ban the thread starters? I mean how many times has this thread been posted, 200, 300?
The thing is that that new people arrives every day.
New people don't know what we know, new people don't/can't consume all the content of this site that fast.
Banning new people won't do xda-dev any good.
Deleting the posts will only give us even more of these post :!:
So the best thing for those that feel irritated by it, just overlook them and move on :wink:
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WM2005
Apologies to the anybody who is not happy with my post.
Don't worry about them!!!If you don't know,you have the right to ask!!!However,before that you should read some thread about the topic you want to know!!!
Cheers mate
I have been watching posts for two months, and still have not been able to understand "yes", "no" or "maybe soon...."
People talk Blueangel, da da da...
I want clear talk about XDA IIi or Alpine. Don't be jumping on people to review old threads when it is hard enough knowing which model people are actually referring to...
I too am interested in reading if anyone has recently tried a 2005 mod on XDA IIi (Alpine), and what problems they may have encountered.
blueclue7, the WM2005 ROM is not for the Alpine, it is for the Himalaya.
The hardware is totally different between the two devices, it will not work.
There is no WM2005 build for the Alpine yet, maybe never, we don't know yet.
The Alpine has WM2003se, and so far, that is all there is.
WM2003 exists for the Alpine in 2 main versions so far, both have bugs. Most of these bugs would probably be solved by WM2005, but guess what, there isn't a WM2005 build yet.
Oh, by the way, WM2005 for the Himilaya won't work on the Alpine, just as it won't work on the Blue Angel, or the Magician, or any other PPC other than the Himalaya.
hi guys u have just bought an xda2i off ebay. I am regretting it before it has arrived due to the lushness of wm2005 and you guys saying it wont be coming to xda2i. How come its coming to the older xda2 arghhh. I may have to make them program an update at gunpoint.
if you want i can trade you my MDAII? heheh :lol:
WM2005 on XDA IIi
It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.
Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.
I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.
I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!
WM2005 on XDA IIi
It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.
Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.
I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.
I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!
Hello, there is some good news from our friend at blue angel forum, some one from that forum asked his frien if there's any update WM5 for Blue Angel, and his friend (who is HTC rep) said "YES!!!" :shock:
I read that post three times, ( i wondering if my english is really bad or there will be update for HTC Blue Angle ) Here's the link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=147760#147760
and for me that is "good" new ( May be a bit, but better than nothing), there is a hope they also make up date for HTC Alpine because it's younger :? . Yah... just hope....
or some one will give the WM5 Himalaya cooker a new HTC Alpine????
I'm sure he'll make that (WM5) work on HTC Alpine... :lol:
should we start a petition?
why not ?
WM5
hey... good idea... :idea:
Great News Again
Hei XDA IIi lovers, i got some ( I think good news ), i post some email to O2 asia asking if they will release WM5 for IIi and their answer :
"There are no firm plans as yet to offer this particular upgrade to customers of existing Xda devices"
But.... don't stop there ......., after that they wrote :
"but we are studying market demand for this platform, and we will certainly consider offering it in the future if there are sufficient requests for it from our customers" :shock:
Do you all get it???
they just need to know if there's sufficient request...
I guest i've start my petition.... How about we all start to petition right now.... :lol: :lol:
hehe i wont hold my breath but i might aswell put my name down for the petition.
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Danny-B-
O2 (UK) customer
Gimmie WM2005 NOW !!!
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Okay, lets finish this thread now, Here are the FACTS !!
WM2005 IS NOT RELEASED YET
The Himalaya build is a internal release by microsoft which was leaked to the world and then modified by our good friends buzz Lightyear and co. This build was specially written for microsoft employees on the wm2005 program as the majority of them have himalaya devices.
This new OS will be released officially on the next generation of XDA devices which will probably incorparate 3G technology as well.
So NO The current WM2005 builds that are doing the rounds WILL NEVER be available for other platforms as the hard ware is completely different from platform to platform.
All you can hope for is that
a) It is officially released for your device then modified like Wm2003SE for Himalaya.
b) Some one will swap you there XDA II device.
c) Get a copy of Wisbar Advance and skin it to look like Magento (This actually looks more polished than the actual WM2005 in my opinion.
I personally have a M1000, Orange version of the XDA II which i upgraded to WM2003SE after 3 days of it arriving, then upgraded to WM2005 1.60b which i am now running..... it's the best phone/thing i've ever had.....plus i got it cheap thanks to a price mistake on Orange's website
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After noticing that wm2005 was availible for himalaya i decided to try n make it work on the XDA 2s my attempt was a complete success and my xda 2s now runs WM2005 to make it run though is extremely difficult and i will create a Tutorial later today along with screenshots
Regards
Hrmm...considering the WM2005 rom that was leaked was a rom specifically designed for the hardware of the Himalaya, I would still be weary of putting it on a Blue Angel, even if it was indeed possible.
Can you post how u did that ? thanks
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Can you post how u did that ? thanks
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Hmmmm, new user, logs in for the first time and his (or her) first and only post is to say WM2005 is on a BA device.........
Me thinks NOT!
Well lets wait and see......
I happen to agree with you there, but as you said, only time will tell.
Hey it makes a change from the first post being "How do I upgrade"?
So let's give him a chance. Waitin for a tutorial...
Has anyone tried MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe with the Windows Mobile 2005 Himalaya Rom we have on a Blue Angel? I'm too scared of the consequences to try .
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Has anyone tried MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe with the Windows Mobile 2005 Himalaya Rom we have on a Blue Angel? I'm too scared of the consequences to try .
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Already try didn't work.
*impatiently waits*
patiently, maybe not
I also and waiting patiently, or not, for the upgrade tutorial.
I hope it is not a hoax.
Come.... on... we are waiting... show us how to do it
Mods should just shut this bogus thread down. If they're legit, they can recreate the thread with details.
I totally agree. Shut this thread down before it gets too many more people's hopes up.
close this thread??? ban him for life!!!
Yeah right, suurrre it works...Not!
If this guy has managed to get a 2005 ROM on a BA. One of us would have bugged the crap out of him for him to upload his Rom Dump by now. Is everyone as (yawwwn)... skeptical as me? We just might as well wait for the new T-mobile MDA IV and the XDA ??? three and a half or four something.. well you get the idea. I love my Blue Angel but I am not going to brick it on OS that was NEVER orginally written for it.
It has been going on more that 9 months since the Blue Angel release and it is already high time for the carriers to start pushing the upcoming all new, all 2005 loaded, redesigned models instead of wasting anymore time trying to please anyone of us who made HTC rich from buying one of thier cellular branded $800- $1000 phones. But as the saying goes....seeing is beliveing.
hahahah..this is total crap
i already tried flashing the wm2k5 rom on my BA ...doesnt work dude
i think the thread starter is a bog fat liar..if thats his way (by lying) to start a relationship i think we shod warn his wife..
I totally agree with that
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Hi guys and gals.
Great forum and I will be coming back every hour, helps everyone trmeendously well.
Anyway I have an xda 2i which i bought last month and is going great. Got tomtom 5 on it and syncs it with my outlook. Nothing could go wrong...
and it hasn't but looking at the new WINDOWS MOBILE 5 it looks os much more modern and I was looking to upgrade.
I have looked at the other posts and people have been talking about there is no upgrade. I wonder as there is the himalaya and it runs bascially on the same system doesn't it?
but here is an ebay auction that sells it for xda2i so is it true or ont?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Windows-Mobil...864660131QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s they have changed the ebay autions now so that they don't say xda2i but they sued to.
Are there not loads of problems with TomTom 5 and WM5?
Should WM5 be on the Alpine?
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Of course everyone want the latest on their device but as Alpine device not too famous enough and still much more need to be discover. IF there's anyone selling upgrade for XDA IIi on ebay, he wont be anyone except from here also. As I know, the GOD of WM5 is buzz...... he can be damn rich if selling like that on ebay but he dont want.
If we dreaming to having WM5 on our device without any action, we wont stop dreaming. How about making donation so that we can buy an Alpine device for buzz...........
any suggestion???? any protest???
ok
thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.
no no no! it wont work! Himalaya WM5 wont work on Alpine.
u seem quite sure, did u try it and it broke ur alpine?
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thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.
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The devices may look the same but that's where the similarities end.
Hardware wise they are totally different and therefore completely incompatible. Until someone creates a rom editor and has the knowledge to mix the base OS with the drivers from 2003se, or even create new ones, cooked versions won't be available.
The suppliers won't release an update because, like Clustered said, not enough people use the Alpine to justify the huge financial outlay. It's all about profit.
Even if customers pay for an update, the cost would be greater than buying an OS for a PC because of the relatively few people who would upgrade. It would take about 10 minutes for pirated copies to end up on the internet as well, putting an even bigger dent in profits.
I think it should happen but unfortunately, it won't.
I understand it seems n00bish, but..
I found no reference on the forum about upgrade of any Alpine device from 2003SE to 2005. Does it realy matter there is no hope with trying find such an upgrage? I have an Qtek 2020i (model PH10C, 2003SE, ROM 1.11.00WWE). Can I find a WM2005 ROM existing, which is situable for my device?
Thanx
There's no exsisting WM5 for the HTC Alpine like the XDA 2i or the Qtek 2020i and there's nobody who can AND want to port a WM5 for our little machines!
Oh, by the wy: WM6 is also not possible like the WM5 story!
I see lot of people use Alpine. but who can explain me why Alpine can't have Win 05? about hardware?driver?
I think the hardware is good enough (like HTC Universal) but no one of the cracks about ROM coding like Buzz continued the development of WM5 for the Alpine!
:'-(
Even porting to Linux must disable the wifi also.
Hi,
Is this thread to talk about possible?
If you keep reading at Sticky thread under Alpine upgrading about Windows Mobile 5 on XDA IIi it's possible for Alpine to run WM2005 but no one would like to donation device to buzz.
Read at thread Windows Mobile 5 on XDA IIi page 5 #42, buzz had told that he dont have Alpine device. If he got it at that time, Im sure he'll try the best he can.
At the same thread page 6 #59, Daz999 talk about donate to buzzdev and make buzz goes down. If anyone at buzz situation sure feel down because the way Daz999 talk about it. Daz999 dont know what donation means. From that time, buzz seem like not interest about Alpine anymore.
And now with many kind of device released and about WM6 too, everyone sure busy chasing technologies......
Thanks
I sold off my Xda2i already..
I rang O2 today to enquire as to when a WM6 Rom would be available for my XDA IIs they said that they had no plans to release one but did say to search the net as there could well be one as there is no reason as to why the XDA IIs couldn't run WM6.
So i'm going to keep googleing but so far no joy i wish i was a good programmer lol
Well that's O2 for you. They don't have any plan of providing software upgrade to our unit, even with my atom exec. They just leave the dirty work for other developers.
They don't even have wm5 as an official update... :/
wm6 rom
i have an wm6 rom downloaded frm a torrent website but im not sure whether it is compatible with BA.
It's not. ;P
jakubd said:
It's not. ;P
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at all "newbies" here:there is NOT a WM6 for BA.
and most of us dont think that it will ever seen on our machines.
there are to many problems to port it to this device.
Is it not possible to cook a rom of WM6 using the hardware drivers from WM5 for the chipset etc of the phone?
I have no idea how to do it but i was wondering if some of the magicians out there may be able to work the old magiC?
No. It's not going to happen. We tried, we had ideas, but theres a problem with the XIP porting I believe so it isn't going to happen for us.
If it does - it WILL get posted. Don't keep asking.
http://www.ppc2you.com/vb/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=106
hey this page claims to have WM6 for all pocket pcs scroll down andf it will be listed at bottom for the BA
appologies i have downloaded and it helmis rom claiming to be WM6 !! i think damn the con artists
Also i have seen that T mobile users are being offered a WM6 ROM on their MDA III which is the BA isn't it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-309604.html
see there we go
thats an artemis lol
ah i see i thought the MDA III was a BA
Waiting for a "...maybe it will be one for us. Hopefully"
Hi all,
I hope you all had a great Xmas.
This is just a follow on from my preious post, in which I was asking for advice on whether I should get a Tytn II (thanks to all that replied to that post, by the way). I think I have made up my mind and will probably get a T-Mobile branded Vario III here in the UK.
My question is regarding the upcoming Windows Mobile 7 operating system...
How soon is this likely to be released? I heard on a mobile tech podcast that it could be as early as Q1 2008, with handsets being released with Win Mob 7.
How would this affect a purchase of the Vario III now? Would Win Mob 7 be a possible upgrade for the Tytn 2 / Vario III? I realise that any OS upgrade would be an operator decision, so how likely would T-Mobile UK release an upgrade for the Vario III? If not, would I be able to easily get hold of a Win Mob 7 ROM from these forums when the time comes? What about the most recent Win Mob 6.1 upgrade?
Apologies for all the questions, but it has thrown a small stone in the works regarding my purchase of the Vario III.
Any advice will be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Munkee
I'm not an expert, and do not have any links to (relevant) device producers or Microsoft.
But my understanding is that Q1 2008 will see the release of WinMo 6.1 Pro (The one out now is for non-touchscreen devices only). WinMo 7.0 is being worked on intensively, however from what I have read it won't be out till end 2008/early 2009.
Apparently WinMo 7.0 will be somewhat of a revolution though.
My advice to you: if you like the Kaiser, get it. 2 years ago, I held my breath because of the Samsung F700 (a friend working at Samsung had leaked the info)...I ended up waiting till this October, when I thought "screw it". Got the Kaiser instead (was on the Universal till then), and never looked back (the F700 was released in Nov, with most of the promised features omitted).
Nice little story, eh?! You get the point.
H.
Horrible post... I've just spent most of my Christmas holiday flashing my TyTN, re-flashing the flash, tweaking the re-flashed custom home cooked Dutty/Sleuth/Alex/Q/Schaps - and I've just got my phone how I like it ..... for today...
..... and then someone comes along and wiggles WM7 in front of my USB port.
Oh well, my Kaiser goes the same way as my Hermes, Wizard etc... If only I could stop flashing for a while I'd probably have time to sell the old phones
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Horrible post... I've just spent most of my Christmas holiday flashing my TyTN, re-flashing the flash, tweaking the re-flashed custom home cooked Dutty/Sleuth/Alex/Q/Schaps - and I've just got my phone how I like it ..... for today...
..... and then someone comes along and wiggles WM7 in front of my USB port.
Oh well, my Kaiser goes the same way as my Hermes, Wizard etc... If only I could stop flashing for a while I'd probably have time to sell the old phones
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lol...life is all about expectations, isn't it?! And the grass is always greener in the future...
H.
Rule Number 1 of Technology Buying:
Buy now unless there is an impending update(like next week or month).
I wouldn't worry about WM7 too much but about WM 6.1 which we'll probably all get an update for from our respective carriers(for people like me who run a carrier-based ROM like Alex's) So, just buy it and tinker away!
beret9987 you just snatched the words out of my mouth. I absolutely share your views. I think all existing WM6 devices will be upgradeable to 6.1 which will see the light of the day in Q1 of 2008 while WM7 is too far away to influence our present buying decisions."
Regards
I think its no point waiting for WM7. You know about Microsoft, especially their Vista release on time. Though if they're gonna release WM7 anytime sooner or later, our kings at the xda will bring it to existing devices Lol.. So just go ahead for a good WM6 device. Kaiser is good and powerful and at the same time a little huge and heavy. I love the Artemis for the design and weight.
I wrote an article on how to buy the best windows mobile device. Not an expert over there but your suggestions welcome!
Regards,
Carty..
Fantastic. Thanks for all your help guys. I'm looking forward to joining the community as a Vario III owner! )
Speak soon,
Munkee
munkee said:
Fantastic. Thanks for all your help guys. I'm looking forward to joining the community as a Vario III owner! )
Speak soon,
Munkee
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Glad to hear, great decision as the Kaiser is a great phone (especially if you get T-Mobiles web n walk unlimited data package...they sell it in the UK for 7.50pounds, don't know how much it is in the States though.)
And once you've flashed it with one of the wonderful ROMs here, you and your Kaiser will be flying like Vince Carter...
Enjoy,
H.
well ... my opinion might look a bit sarcastic, but since my old XDA II was re-born with WM6 (thx to ToFlock and other gurus here) I took a decision to wait at least for 6 months before buying a new rom-based device ... my criteria is to get a new device ONLY if it contains a new H/W that I might need ... I moved from XDA to XDA II for the camera and BT ... then moved to Universal for the VGA and WIFI .. then moved to Kaiser for the larger ram and GPS ... WM7 or else won't be the base for my decision of a new device.
Yeah.. I'd say Get kaiser now instead of waiting for WM7.
By the time WM7 device is out, you'll eventually hear through some rumours and leaked images of next-best-n-cool device(WM 8? or new codename)
There is no end to this feeling
So get it now and start Enjoy !!
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I love the Artemis for the design and weight.
...
Regards,
Carty..
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Heavy is good.
Heavy is reliable.
If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
- Boris (Snatch)
lesevich said:
Glad to hear, great decision as the Kaiser is a great phone (especially if you get T-Mobiles web n walk unlimited data package...they sell it in the UK for 7.50pounds, don't know how much it is in the States though.)
And once you've flashed it with one of the wonderful ROMs here, you and your Kaiser will be flying like Vince Carter...
Enjoy,
H.
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Yup, i'm in the UK and am specifically looking at this device on T-Mobile mainly because of the £7.50 Web'N'Walk data plan. As for flashing the Vario III with one of the ROMs found here, how would this affect my contract with T-Mobile? If I do indeed flash the Vario with one of the ROMs, would I just need to hope that I don't ever need to take the handset back to T-Mobile if I ever have problems with it? ;o)
Thanks,
Munkee
P.S. I really need to change my Vince Carter sig.....glad he's not with the Raptors anymore! ;o)