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[REQ] Windows Mobile 5 on XDA IIi

Hi, Does anyone know if there is an update to XDA IIi to Windows Mobile 5.0.
I know there is one for the Himalaya version of XDA.
I have spoken to 02 and they say that it is highly unlikely and would be releasing the XDA II Exec with WM2005. Any info would be gratefully received.
Mod edit: Please be sure to mark requests with [REQ]

Double post deleted.
And there is currently no WM 5 for that device.

Can't the admins just delete these threads and/or ban the thread starters? I mean how many times has this thread been posted, 200, 300?

The thing is that that new people arrives every day.
New people don't know what we know, new people don't/can't consume all the content of this site that fast.
Banning new people won't do xda-dev any good.
Deleting the posts will only give us even more of these post :!:
So the best thing for those that feel irritated by it, just overlook them and move on :wink:

Thread moved from mod. upgrade, unlock to Alpine

WM2005
Apologies to the anybody who is not happy with my post.

Don't worry about them!!!If you don't know,you have the right to ask!!!However,before that you should read some thread about the topic you want to know!!!
Cheers mate

I have been watching posts for two months, and still have not been able to understand "yes", "no" or "maybe soon...."
People talk Blueangel, da da da...
I want clear talk about XDA IIi or Alpine. Don't be jumping on people to review old threads when it is hard enough knowing which model people are actually referring to...
I too am interested in reading if anyone has recently tried a 2005 mod on XDA IIi (Alpine), and what problems they may have encountered.

blueclue7, the WM2005 ROM is not for the Alpine, it is for the Himalaya.
The hardware is totally different between the two devices, it will not work.
There is no WM2005 build for the Alpine yet, maybe never, we don't know yet.
The Alpine has WM2003se, and so far, that is all there is.
WM2003 exists for the Alpine in 2 main versions so far, both have bugs. Most of these bugs would probably be solved by WM2005, but guess what, there isn't a WM2005 build yet.
Oh, by the way, WM2005 for the Himilaya won't work on the Alpine, just as it won't work on the Blue Angel, or the Magician, or any other PPC other than the Himalaya.

hi guys u have just bought an xda2i off ebay. I am regretting it before it has arrived due to the lushness of wm2005 and you guys saying it wont be coming to xda2i. How come its coming to the older xda2 arghhh. I may have to make them program an update at gunpoint.

if you want i can trade you my MDAII? heheh :lol:

WM2005 on XDA IIi
It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.
Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.
I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.
I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!

WM2005 on XDA IIi
It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.
Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.
I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.
I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!

Hello, there is some good news from our friend at blue angel forum, some one from that forum asked his frien if there's any update WM5 for Blue Angel, and his friend (who is HTC rep) said "YES!!!" :shock:
I read that post three times, ( i wondering if my english is really bad or there will be update for HTC Blue Angle ) Here's the link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=147760#147760
and for me that is "good" new ( May be a bit, but better than nothing), there is a hope they also make up date for HTC Alpine because it's younger :? . Yah... just hope....
or some one will give the WM5 Himalaya cooker a new HTC Alpine????
I'm sure he'll make that (WM5) work on HTC Alpine... :lol:

should we start a petition?

why not ?

WM5
hey... good idea... :idea:

Great News Again
Hei XDA IIi lovers, i got some ( I think good news ), i post some email to O2 asia asking if they will release WM5 for IIi and their answer :
"There are no firm plans as yet to offer this particular upgrade to customers of existing Xda devices"
But.... don't stop there ......., after that they wrote :
"but we are studying market demand for this platform, and we will certainly consider offering it in the future if there are sufficient requests for it from our customers" :shock:
Do you all get it???
they just need to know if there's sufficient request...
I guest i've start my petition.... How about we all start to petition right now.... :lol: :lol:

hehe i wont hold my breath but i might aswell put my name down for the petition.
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Danny-B-
O2 (UK) customer
Gimmie WM2005 NOW !!!
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Okay, lets finish this thread now, Here are the FACTS !!
WM2005 IS NOT RELEASED YET
The Himalaya build is a internal release by microsoft which was leaked to the world and then modified by our good friends buzz Lightyear and co. This build was specially written for microsoft employees on the wm2005 program as the majority of them have himalaya devices.
This new OS will be released officially on the next generation of XDA devices which will probably incorparate 3G technology as well.
So NO The current WM2005 builds that are doing the rounds WILL NEVER be available for other platforms as the hard ware is completely different from platform to platform.
All you can hope for is that
a) It is officially released for your device then modified like Wm2003SE for Himalaya.
b) Some one will swap you there XDA II device.
c) Get a copy of Wisbar Advance and skin it to look like Magento (This actually looks more polished than the actual WM2005 in my opinion.
I personally have a M1000, Orange version of the XDA II which i upgraded to WM2003SE after 3 days of it arriving, then upgraded to WM2005 1.60b which i am now running..... it's the best phone/thing i've ever had.....plus i got it cheap thanks to a price mistake on Orange's website

Blackberry client for XDA IIi

Hi I would appreciate if someone could point me to where I can get this from. I used to have this on my XDA II. I upgraded to IIi and cannot locate this application from O2UK site. Ther, it is a part of the overall new ROM for XDA II.
Thanks in advance.

I beleive that this will have to be built into a new ROM. I have an xda2s. Many have tried but failed to extract the relevant cabs from the xda 2 and get blackberry working on the 2s. No luck after about 6 months it seems... So I suspect its the same flr the 2i have to wait for the ROM upgrade :-(
Regards
chris

which will never come ,they don't plan on anymore

andy-c1 said:
which will never come ,they don't plan on anymore
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Not true. O2 should be releasing roms for xda2s and xda2i quite soon according to my contacts.

Thanks for the information guys. It is what I suspected. Looks like it will be a test of patience :?
jdee246, I hope your contacts are reliable; Here's to hoping.

I concur with jd246. I have receievd a few tech support responses indicating August or Septemebr release of xda 2s ROM with Blackberry client. Also heard from one forum member that is trialing it right now, so we should be close..

This is very exciting news if it actually happens. Like many other O2 customers, my patience is wearing really thin - don't you just love the way O2 releases products in blaze of glory, promising updates that never materialise and having internal support teams that never seem connected enough to get a straight answer.
To all those with HTC devices outside of O2, stay there! Behind their Show-rooms O2 is completely disconnected.

This is very exciting news if it actually happens. Like many other O2 customers, my patience is wearing really thin - don't you just love the way O2 releases products in blaze of glory, promising updates that never materialise and having internal support teams that never seem connected enough to get a straight answer.
To all those with HTC devices outside of O2, stay there! Behind their Show-rooms O2 is completely disconnected.

cbrow51 said:
I concur with jd246. I have receievd a few tech support responses indicating August or Septemebr release of xda 2s ROM with Blackberry client. Also heard from one forum member that is trialing it right now, so we should be close..
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cbrow:
I am using both IIs and IIi clients, and have done since November last year. The ones I have now, released from RIM - you know, the guys that actually write the BB software in Canada - in the last month, are the only usable versions. Previous versions have had major interop problems (especially with Activesync).
And all operators need RIM to write the software for the new models, and RIM must do a good job, and if they don't they won't release it....
From what I know, it's out the 1st week of October on the UK website.

Ah..!! Southern Man!... I was going to protect your identity I am glad that we are so close. Great news indeed. Any thoughts on when we might see the same for the Wizard and Universal? ;-)
Regards
Chris

We'll believe it when we see it! 02 have promised this for so long, and then in the next words of wisdom said that they have no plans to bring a Blackberry Client out for the s or the i.
I am not disputing your using the client - just that fact about 02 actually releasing it to us....the paying public....that bought their pda's expecting it to do something that it won't!
But....we do live in hope :-D

Yes, we all live in hope...for without hope, there would only be O2 Active! :wink:

Blackberry On MDAIII on T-Mobile UK
But I am also confused... I was in the UK last week and went into a T-Mobile UK store. They had the MDA III in there (aka xdaIIs) and the brochure said it has Blackberry client connectivity...? Is this true and does it work? If yes, why couldn't we use that ROM on the xdaIIs. Anyone know??
Regards
Chris

Is this what your looking for?

I guess that this is forthe XDA II ? If so I believe that it will only install on that device.

I don't use Blackberry but I have installed it on my XDA IIi and it seems to be ok (no error messages), I just copied it across and ran it.

Ah! But does it work?
Try it...

OK I've installed this to my O2 XDA IIi
Installed the client software from the MY-XDA Website for the XDA II
Had my Corporate Account enabled with Blackberry Enterprise Server 3.6
Bu the XDAIIi Doesn't show an IP Address which I guess it needs before it starts up.
Does blackberry needed a certain enabled sim card? I can connect to O2 Active (Mobile Web) So GPRS Is ok.
Any Ideas Guys?

check this out
http://web.o2.ie/business/phones_and_devices/xda/software_upgrade_xda2.jsp
it might help

CHeers,
What I thought but just heard our Corporate Blackberry has moved from o2 to Vodafone so this is going to be fun lol.
All becuase someone didn't release you need to enable the voice on the o2 account d'oh
Cheers/

Windows Mobile 5 and Alpine -Should WM5 be on the Alpine?POL

Hi guys and gals.
Great forum and I will be coming back every hour, helps everyone trmeendously well.
Anyway I have an xda 2i which i bought last month and is going great. Got tomtom 5 on it and syncs it with my outlook. Nothing could go wrong...
and it hasn't but looking at the new WINDOWS MOBILE 5 it looks os much more modern and I was looking to upgrade.
I have looked at the other posts and people have been talking about there is no upgrade. I wonder as there is the himalaya and it runs bascially on the same system doesn't it?
but here is an ebay auction that sells it for xda2i so is it true or ont?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Windows-Mobil...864660131QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s they have changed the ebay autions now so that they don't say xda2i but they sued to.

Are there not loads of problems with TomTom 5 and WM5?

Should WM5 be on the Alpine?
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Of course everyone want the latest on their device but as Alpine device not too famous enough and still much more need to be discover. IF there's anyone selling upgrade for XDA IIi on ebay, he wont be anyone except from here also. As I know, the GOD of WM5 is buzz...... he can be damn rich if selling like that on ebay but he dont want.
If we dreaming to having WM5 on our device without any action, we wont stop dreaming. How about making donation so that we can buy an Alpine device for buzz...........
any suggestion???? any protest???

ok
thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.

no no no! it wont work! Himalaya WM5 wont work on Alpine.

u seem quite sure, did u try it and it broke ur alpine?

Re: ok
daz4590 said:
thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.
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The devices may look the same but that's where the similarities end.
Hardware wise they are totally different and therefore completely incompatible. Until someone creates a rom editor and has the knowledge to mix the base OS with the drivers from 2003se, or even create new ones, cooked versions won't be available.
The suppliers won't release an update because, like Clustered said, not enough people use the Alpine to justify the huge financial outlay. It's all about profit.
Even if customers pay for an update, the cost would be greater than buying an OS for a PC because of the relatively few people who would upgrade. It would take about 10 minutes for pirated copies to end up on the internet as well, putting an even bigger dent in profits.
I think it should happen but unfortunately, it won't.

ALL AT&T Tilt Owners Have Been Left Behind

The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.

bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Old news ! Not nice to start a " new " thread for something we had not expected anyway.

Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.

Do you realize what board you're on? Don't generalize, you have been left behind, not me. I've been running WM6.1 on my Tilt since the winter when it first leaked and have been running the lasted build since Monday.

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Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
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Everyone here knows this and it is not worth posting as you will find out.

No, I have browsed through some threads and it seemed that a decent amount of people had not realized that only the HTC-Branded devices had recieved the update.

People who read stuff already knew for like a month that the update would probably be only for HTC branded devices, I guess you don't.
Anyways, it doesn't mean there won't be official updates for you, just that your company, whichever it is, will have to customize things first before releasing a rom, especially adding all their bloatware.
Oh, and about accelerated graphics, please, noone got them, it's not that you're a special target.

I know that there were some "fixes" but no drivers, and it has been said that ATT users will get it, just when they get ready to release it after adding all their crap.

Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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I am here to help , what was the question ? I just heard a rant that the mods have said ( continually ) is not appropriate for these forums. If you read the official announcement from HTC when they announced the TYtN upgrade, they said that they had no plans to release an upgrade fer the Tilt in the near future. Why is this rant important to this forum?

What are you talking about denco? This is not even a rant, it is a statement. I did not mean for it to be a rant and I did not mean for people to mistake it as one. I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update. It appeared as though alot of people had not realized this, or, at least enough for me to post. I can even show you some quotes if you need me too.
Denco, please look up the definition of 'rant'.

htc rom
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.

bubbleking2 said:
... I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update...
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I am not trying to entice the argument here, but i will add couple of things:
a) Most of the "regular" members here at xda already know that the tilt or any other branded version of the tytnII will not be getting the updates. (emphasis on regular).
b) none of the xda members really care about official updates as we have very gifted and talented chefs here that can port roms for us (and we are truly greatful for that) and seeing that the only diffrence between the TytnII and tilt is the front camera that shouldn't be a big deal.
c) drivers (which there aren't none) can also be ported. There are chefs already working on porting the diamond drivers over to tilt which runs vga.
Having said that i would like to thank you for the info ... but unfortunately its old news and no one likes repeatedly hearing old news.

bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Did you try hitting the download link at the bottom of this link -
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67&act=sd
? (Posted by jdmba)
Welcome to the ROM update for the AT&T Tilt. Please review the following prior to downloading and installing the latest ROM update (version 1.62.502.0) on your device.
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I very nearly downloaded this one by mistake. I registered with htc but my phone S/N is not a real HTC device and was still logged in, but I managed to (mistakenly) download the file from that link without much issue.
That help?

That's still only 6.0..

ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1111one
Those bastards! Oh wait. I'm not worse off than I was before. Even If I didn't have XDA to feed my obsession for ROM flashing.

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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um what is there to help with? It doesn't seem like the OP had a question or required help in any way. He came on and made an ignorant statement.

leon sprouse said:
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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I don't know who you spoke with but they were wrong; I just ran the HTC RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) from the HTC e-club web site and the splash screen clearly states Windows Mobile 6.1. I have an HTC TYTN II and it works great.

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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LOL, nice call on NASIOC...as well as EvoM

The thing that puzzles me about this is the way the AT&T Tilt gets singled out as if it's special - in reality it's just one dozens of rebranded Kaisers around the globe, none of which have had an official update. I have a "Vodafone V1615", am I whining about where to download a Vodafone update for my Vodafone V1615? No, of course not, with the help of this forum it's been running the original HTC rom since October, and upgraded to the HTC 6.1 update a couple of days ago (before it was released by HTC in fact). So what's the problem?
The irony is the AT&T Tilt is (I believe) the only variant to have it's own section of the HTC website, and to actually have already had a rom upgrade back in February, albeit 6.0 only. Where are all the complaints about that from owners of the V1615, or the T-Mobile Vario 3, or the Orange Tytn II, or O2 XDA Stellar, or the "3" Tytn II, etc etc..?

ARE YOU HAPPY or NOT???

Are you happy from your PPC ... please say YES or NO and what ppc do you currently use???
My answer is NO xda stealth

Yes.
AT&T Tilt.
but i could be MUCH happier with it if there were video drivers.

Been mostly happy with my Hermes.
Will get a Raphael/Touch Pro just as soon as my operator gets it.

been very happy with my Vogue.

HTC Wizard (T-mo branded) and i am very happy. if only it had 3g. Used to have an ATT Tilt (usa kaiser) and that was a big fat NO!

My Tilt is awesome with XDA Live 2.0.

thought I had finally reached awsome status with my Tilt until I just read Kareem's reply (must explore xda Live now)

happy with sprint mogul all do to this website

yes, XDA Flame
but i also have a wizard and im also happy with that one

YES
HTC TyTN II.
HTC Universal
T-Mobile mda Vario
happy with them :3

Yes - 8525 (with the help of XDA-Developers)
My wife is also pretty happy with her 8125

happiness is distraction
in it's many forms like love or new hardware
or kids or other "hobbies"
anybody left alone for too long with their own thoughts
will get bord, lonely and unhappy
find whatever distract you and keep at it
as long as it dont harm other people

It may be difficult to define happiness but may be ,if we donot feel unhappy , then we are happy

really happy with my TYTN 2...

Rudegar said:
happiness is distraction
in it's many forms like love or new hardware
or kids or other "hobbies"
anybody left alone for too long with their own thoughts
will get bord, lonely and unhappy
find whatever distract you and keep at it
as long as it dont harm other people
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Damnit that's deep...
I'm happy with my Prophet...

i am somewhat happy, but ill type it....im want a rom that will blow my mind, ive tried various roms and there isnt, in my opinion, that big of a difference, when i boot my phone, i wanna be holy sh!+ this rom is amazing but it may be inpart to the crappy video drivers but we will see.

I'm too happy with my little Touch....

Happy with my Sprint Touch with WM6.1 and GPS working. Looking forward to seeing the Raphael as I miss the keyboard from my Sprint Mogul, but don't miss the bulk.

No
I'm currently am not happy with my AT&T Tilt now, because all these new HTC phones are coming out or is already out that I want, and it is making my phone look bad and old. I can't wait until AT&T recieves a updated version for the Tilt........ uuuummmm maybe the Diamond Pro........ooopps sorry I started day dreaming again.

gsessons said:
I'm currently am not happy with my AT&T Tilt now, because all these new HTC phones are coming out or is already out that I want, and it is making my phone look bad and old. I can't wait until AT&T recieves a updated version for the Tilt........ uuuummmm maybe the Diamond Pro........ooopps sorry I started day dreaming again.
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YOU and ME are the only unhappy here !!! I have xda sealth if you want to swab