The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Old news ! Not nice to start a " new " thread for something we had not expected anyway.
Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
Do you realize what board you're on? Don't generalize, you have been left behind, not me. I've been running WM6.1 on my Tilt since the winter when it first leaked and have been running the lasted build since Monday.
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Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
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Everyone here knows this and it is not worth posting as you will find out.
No, I have browsed through some threads and it seemed that a decent amount of people had not realized that only the HTC-Branded devices had recieved the update.
People who read stuff already knew for like a month that the update would probably be only for HTC branded devices, I guess you don't.
Anyways, it doesn't mean there won't be official updates for you, just that your company, whichever it is, will have to customize things first before releasing a rom, especially adding all their bloatware.
Oh, and about accelerated graphics, please, noone got them, it's not that you're a special target.
I know that there were some "fixes" but no drivers, and it has been said that ATT users will get it, just when they get ready to release it after adding all their crap.
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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I am here to help , what was the question ? I just heard a rant that the mods have said ( continually ) is not appropriate for these forums. If you read the official announcement from HTC when they announced the TYtN upgrade, they said that they had no plans to release an upgrade fer the Tilt in the near future. Why is this rant important to this forum?
What are you talking about denco? This is not even a rant, it is a statement. I did not mean for it to be a rant and I did not mean for people to mistake it as one. I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update. It appeared as though alot of people had not realized this, or, at least enough for me to post. I can even show you some quotes if you need me too.
Denco, please look up the definition of 'rant'.
htc rom
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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... I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update...
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I am not trying to entice the argument here, but i will add couple of things:
a) Most of the "regular" members here at xda already know that the tilt or any other branded version of the tytnII will not be getting the updates. (emphasis on regular).
b) none of the xda members really care about official updates as we have very gifted and talented chefs here that can port roms for us (and we are truly greatful for that) and seeing that the only diffrence between the TytnII and tilt is the front camera that shouldn't be a big deal.
c) drivers (which there aren't none) can also be ported. There are chefs already working on porting the diamond drivers over to tilt which runs vga.
Having said that i would like to thank you for the info ... but unfortunately its old news and no one likes repeatedly hearing old news.
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The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Did you try hitting the download link at the bottom of this link -
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67&act=sd
? (Posted by jdmba)
Welcome to the ROM update for the AT&T Tilt. Please review the following prior to downloading and installing the latest ROM update (version 1.62.502.0) on your device.
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I very nearly downloaded this one by mistake. I registered with htc but my phone S/N is not a real HTC device and was still logged in, but I managed to (mistakenly) download the file from that link without much issue.
That help?
That's still only 6.0..
ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1111one
Those bastards! Oh wait. I'm not worse off than I was before. Even If I didn't have XDA to feed my obsession for ROM flashing.
DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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um what is there to help with? It doesn't seem like the OP had a question or required help in any way. He came on and made an ignorant statement.
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Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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I don't know who you spoke with but they were wrong; I just ran the HTC RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) from the HTC e-club web site and the splash screen clearly states Windows Mobile 6.1. I have an HTC TYTN II and it works great.
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Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
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LOL, nice call on NASIOC...as well as EvoM
The thing that puzzles me about this is the way the AT&T Tilt gets singled out as if it's special - in reality it's just one dozens of rebranded Kaisers around the globe, none of which have had an official update. I have a "Vodafone V1615", am I whining about where to download a Vodafone update for my Vodafone V1615? No, of course not, with the help of this forum it's been running the original HTC rom since October, and upgraded to the HTC 6.1 update a couple of days ago (before it was released by HTC in fact). So what's the problem?
The irony is the AT&T Tilt is (I believe) the only variant to have it's own section of the HTC website, and to actually have already had a rom upgrade back in February, albeit 6.0 only. Where are all the complaints about that from owners of the V1615, or the T-Mobile Vario 3, or the Orange Tytn II, or O2 XDA Stellar, or the "3" Tytn II, etc etc..?
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Hi all,
I hope you all had a great Xmas.
This is just a follow on from my preious post, in which I was asking for advice on whether I should get a Tytn II (thanks to all that replied to that post, by the way). I think I have made up my mind and will probably get a T-Mobile branded Vario III here in the UK.
My question is regarding the upcoming Windows Mobile 7 operating system...
How soon is this likely to be released? I heard on a mobile tech podcast that it could be as early as Q1 2008, with handsets being released with Win Mob 7.
How would this affect a purchase of the Vario III now? Would Win Mob 7 be a possible upgrade for the Tytn 2 / Vario III? I realise that any OS upgrade would be an operator decision, so how likely would T-Mobile UK release an upgrade for the Vario III? If not, would I be able to easily get hold of a Win Mob 7 ROM from these forums when the time comes? What about the most recent Win Mob 6.1 upgrade?
Apologies for all the questions, but it has thrown a small stone in the works regarding my purchase of the Vario III.
Any advice will be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Munkee
I'm not an expert, and do not have any links to (relevant) device producers or Microsoft.
But my understanding is that Q1 2008 will see the release of WinMo 6.1 Pro (The one out now is for non-touchscreen devices only). WinMo 7.0 is being worked on intensively, however from what I have read it won't be out till end 2008/early 2009.
Apparently WinMo 7.0 will be somewhat of a revolution though.
My advice to you: if you like the Kaiser, get it. 2 years ago, I held my breath because of the Samsung F700 (a friend working at Samsung had leaked the info)...I ended up waiting till this October, when I thought "screw it". Got the Kaiser instead (was on the Universal till then), and never looked back (the F700 was released in Nov, with most of the promised features omitted).
Nice little story, eh?! You get the point.
H.
Horrible post... I've just spent most of my Christmas holiday flashing my TyTN, re-flashing the flash, tweaking the re-flashed custom home cooked Dutty/Sleuth/Alex/Q/Schaps - and I've just got my phone how I like it ..... for today...
..... and then someone comes along and wiggles WM7 in front of my USB port.
Oh well, my Kaiser goes the same way as my Hermes, Wizard etc... If only I could stop flashing for a while I'd probably have time to sell the old phones
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Horrible post... I've just spent most of my Christmas holiday flashing my TyTN, re-flashing the flash, tweaking the re-flashed custom home cooked Dutty/Sleuth/Alex/Q/Schaps - and I've just got my phone how I like it ..... for today...
..... and then someone comes along and wiggles WM7 in front of my USB port.
Oh well, my Kaiser goes the same way as my Hermes, Wizard etc... If only I could stop flashing for a while I'd probably have time to sell the old phones
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lol...life is all about expectations, isn't it?! And the grass is always greener in the future...
H.
Rule Number 1 of Technology Buying:
Buy now unless there is an impending update(like next week or month).
I wouldn't worry about WM7 too much but about WM 6.1 which we'll probably all get an update for from our respective carriers(for people like me who run a carrier-based ROM like Alex's) So, just buy it and tinker away!
beret9987 you just snatched the words out of my mouth. I absolutely share your views. I think all existing WM6 devices will be upgradeable to 6.1 which will see the light of the day in Q1 of 2008 while WM7 is too far away to influence our present buying decisions."
Regards
I think its no point waiting for WM7. You know about Microsoft, especially their Vista release on time. Though if they're gonna release WM7 anytime sooner or later, our kings at the xda will bring it to existing devices Lol.. So just go ahead for a good WM6 device. Kaiser is good and powerful and at the same time a little huge and heavy. I love the Artemis for the design and weight.
I wrote an article on how to buy the best windows mobile device. Not an expert over there but your suggestions welcome!
Regards,
Carty..
Fantastic. Thanks for all your help guys. I'm looking forward to joining the community as a Vario III owner! )
Speak soon,
Munkee
munkee said:
Fantastic. Thanks for all your help guys. I'm looking forward to joining the community as a Vario III owner! )
Speak soon,
Munkee
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Glad to hear, great decision as the Kaiser is a great phone (especially if you get T-Mobiles web n walk unlimited data package...they sell it in the UK for 7.50pounds, don't know how much it is in the States though.)
And once you've flashed it with one of the wonderful ROMs here, you and your Kaiser will be flying like Vince Carter...
Enjoy,
H.
well ... my opinion might look a bit sarcastic, but since my old XDA II was re-born with WM6 (thx to ToFlock and other gurus here) I took a decision to wait at least for 6 months before buying a new rom-based device ... my criteria is to get a new device ONLY if it contains a new H/W that I might need ... I moved from XDA to XDA II for the camera and BT ... then moved to Universal for the VGA and WIFI .. then moved to Kaiser for the larger ram and GPS ... WM7 or else won't be the base for my decision of a new device.
Yeah.. I'd say Get kaiser now instead of waiting for WM7.
By the time WM7 device is out, you'll eventually hear through some rumours and leaked images of next-best-n-cool device(WM 8? or new codename)
There is no end to this feeling
So get it now and start Enjoy !!
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I love the Artemis for the design and weight.
...
Regards,
Carty..
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Heavy is good.
Heavy is reliable.
If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
- Boris (Snatch)
lesevich said:
Glad to hear, great decision as the Kaiser is a great phone (especially if you get T-Mobiles web n walk unlimited data package...they sell it in the UK for 7.50pounds, don't know how much it is in the States though.)
And once you've flashed it with one of the wonderful ROMs here, you and your Kaiser will be flying like Vince Carter...
Enjoy,
H.
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Yup, i'm in the UK and am specifically looking at this device on T-Mobile mainly because of the £7.50 Web'N'Walk data plan. As for flashing the Vario III with one of the ROMs found here, how would this affect my contract with T-Mobile? If I do indeed flash the Vario with one of the ROMs, would I just need to hope that I don't ever need to take the handset back to T-Mobile if I ever have problems with it? ;o)
Thanks,
Munkee
P.S. I really need to change my Vince Carter sig.....glad he's not with the Raptors anymore! ;o)
Hi all, i'm a noob here and would firstly like to say hi to everyone and well done to all concerned for the content and information found here... I have had my phone for less than a week and already it has been flashed with a new ROM
I have read with interest numerous threads and petitions about the HTC graphics problems. I read something earlier where someone said they had contacted HTC about this issue and pointed HTC to this forum (as I am sure alot of people have done). My question is as follows.....If HTC decide to come on here and look at the site to gather information/have a look at what people are saying about the graphics issue...what do you think they make of all the threads containing their software that is freely available for download?
I would be concerned that they may a little upset and try to force the software to be taken off??? Maybe I am missing something and the software is freeware but I doubt it very much.
I suppose my question could extend to things like ROMS etc with other mnfrs software on it also.
Anyway apologies if this is a somewhat random post but I was just wondering...and before anyone asks...NO I AM NOT AN HTC EMPLOYEE Or do I wish to cause any friction.
Chris
Welcome, HTC.
Yes welcome HTC! If you would make your Products perform properly right out of the box I wouldnt have to spend hour on hour cooking new ROM's or extracting apps from one device to port to another. Maybe one day you will wake up and see that you could be the best PDA provider out there if it not for one small issue! You leave us hanging on important things and leave it up to us to fix your mistakes so please HTC get your sh*t together and blow my mind with the next device!
PMSL...You guys really think I from HTC???? I can see this turning into a major flaming for me If that's what everyone now thinks.
I can assure you that I am not, but I guess that is going to be difficult to prove once everyone thinks I am.
I wonder if a job at HTC would be better than my current employment
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PMSL...You guys really think I from HTC???? I can see this turning into a major flaming for me If that's what everyone now thinks.
I can assure you that I am not, but I guess that is going to be difficult to prove once everyone thinks I am.
I wonder if a job at HTC would be better than my current employment
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They don't think you're from HTC. They said they'd welcome HTC to come in and see everything you're talking about and seeing that they're phones would sell alot better if they implemented alot of the stuff we're doing ourselves afterwards.
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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They don't think you're from HTC. They said they'd welcome HTC to come in and see everything you're talking about and seeing that they're phones would sell alot better if they implemented alot of the stuff we're doing ourselves afterwards.
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DOH!!! I read it wrong when the first reply said Welcome, HTC..thank god for that..I thought I was going to be in for thousands of messages asking me about graphics drivers
faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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My sentiments exactly.. And I'm sure their not the only 1's!!!
faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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LOL.. I do get the impression that there are some talented people here.
faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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It's not only bug fixes from guys like you faria but the forum also provides a completely cost free customer survey/opinion base of product performance, enhancements and application inclusions.
Up until now though, I don't think they have had enough incentive to fix past issues because they thought the complaints were not serious enough to effect future sales.
They definately have reason to worry this time....
For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten
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For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten
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IMO - Having switched from an Eten x500 to the TYTN II/Kaiser I personally would not recommend it over a Kaiser. My experiences of it in a year of use how been far exceeded by 1 week of use with my TYTN II.
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For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten
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Exactly.. They better give me a 100% working kaiser (fast camera, video drivers etc..) or this will be my last PDA from them
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Exactly.. They better give me a 100% working kaiser (fast camera, video drivers etc..) or this will be my last PDA from them
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Yeah, all I meant was that I'd move to a different brand. I just threw Eten out there cause it was the first thing that popped into my head.
yea eric, im pretty sure i'd do the same. im hoping for a hit on the next one
Hi all,
Sorry for the noob question. I just got my AT&T Tilt and I just want to make sure that I am in the right forum. Is this the forum for AT&T Tilt (AT&T 8925)? I've search around, it's either this forum or the Hermes forum. I appreciate anyone points me at the right direction.
Thanks a bunch!
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The 8925 is a Kaiser so you're in the correct forum.
The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.
Thanks....
ceelo2007 & jon_k,
Thank you....awesome!
They should update the names that we call some of these devices so new people can see. Like instead of just 8525 it could be "At&t/Cingular 8525". You know?
heh...
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....
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I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....
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The naming conventions for the forums seem to be by HTC development codenames.
XDA-devs deals with many different models of HTC devices which have been re-branded by many different providers and depends on the source and region of your particular device and service.
So this site tends to use the pre-release codenames to refer to all devices of the same general hardware family. Hence the Tilt can be called a TytnII or a Kaiser or a Vario III, 8925...etc... with only minor diffs in hardware/software.
Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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its all in the flippin wiki
~~Tito~~ said:
Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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To avoid posts from people who are incapable of identifying what device they have. As well as "their" from "there". lol
Ahh, you caught me. . ., also there already is .
*I* know there is a wiki but do others?
Maybe they know but there not sure if it's over they're -------> or over their <------.
My opinion is that these forums are pretty technical, and if you can't properly identify your model, you probably don't belong here. I know from my expertise in Motorola modding that I have been PM'ed countless times by 12 year old kids that decided they were going to mod, hex edit, or flash their phone, bricked it, and then PM'ed me for a magical fix before their parents found out.
-Jay
Kaiser Tilt diffference
jon_k said:
The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.
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Other than the name differential, I believe the Euro Kaiser has a camera on the front as well as the back for "video call". The tilt has the regular one in the back.
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hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....
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hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....
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Search, and when you need help then post a thread. . .
Are you happy from your PPC ... please say YES or NO and what ppc do you currently use???
My answer is NO xda stealth
Yes.
AT&T Tilt.
but i could be MUCH happier with it if there were video drivers.
Been mostly happy with my Hermes.
Will get a Raphael/Touch Pro just as soon as my operator gets it.
been very happy with my Vogue.
HTC Wizard (T-mo branded) and i am very happy. if only it had 3g. Used to have an ATT Tilt (usa kaiser) and that was a big fat NO!
My Tilt is awesome with XDA Live 2.0.
thought I had finally reached awsome status with my Tilt until I just read Kareem's reply (must explore xda Live now)
happy with sprint mogul all do to this website
yes, XDA Flame
but i also have a wizard and im also happy with that one
YES
HTC TyTN II.
HTC Universal
T-Mobile mda Vario
happy with them :3
Yes - 8525 (with the help of XDA-Developers)
My wife is also pretty happy with her 8125
happiness is distraction
in it's many forms like love or new hardware
or kids or other "hobbies"
anybody left alone for too long with their own thoughts
will get bord, lonely and unhappy
find whatever distract you and keep at it
as long as it dont harm other people
It may be difficult to define happiness but may be ,if we donot feel unhappy , then we are happy
really happy with my TYTN 2...
Rudegar said:
happiness is distraction
in it's many forms like love or new hardware
or kids or other "hobbies"
anybody left alone for too long with their own thoughts
will get bord, lonely and unhappy
find whatever distract you and keep at it
as long as it dont harm other people
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Damnit that's deep...
I'm happy with my Prophet...
i am somewhat happy, but ill type it....im want a rom that will blow my mind, ive tried various roms and there isnt, in my opinion, that big of a difference, when i boot my phone, i wanna be holy sh!+ this rom is amazing but it may be inpart to the crappy video drivers but we will see.
I'm too happy with my little Touch....
Happy with my Sprint Touch with WM6.1 and GPS working. Looking forward to seeing the Raphael as I miss the keyboard from my Sprint Mogul, but don't miss the bulk.
No
I'm currently am not happy with my AT&T Tilt now, because all these new HTC phones are coming out or is already out that I want, and it is making my phone look bad and old. I can't wait until AT&T recieves a updated version for the Tilt........ uuuummmm maybe the Diamond Pro........ooopps sorry I started day dreaming again.
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I'm currently am not happy with my AT&T Tilt now, because all these new HTC phones are coming out or is already out that I want, and it is making my phone look bad and old. I can't wait until AT&T recieves a updated version for the Tilt........ uuuummmm maybe the Diamond Pro........ooopps sorry I started day dreaming again.
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YOU and ME are the only unhappy here !!! I have xda sealth if you want to swab
A lot of people have been saying that HTC will be issuing upgrades to TP2 users for W6.5 and Manilla on the 6th.
Is this for certain?
If HTC are planning this, why have HTC UK issued ROM upgrades for Voda and Orange on the 28th of September? I mean, if they were planning to release WM6.5 etc. why release those updates so close to that date?
Well the updates for Orange and Vodaphone, that are the decisions of them. Not the decisions of HTC.
It's not certain that it will be there october 6th. It's the day that wm 6.5 oficially will be ditributed. So possibly it can take a while longer before an upgrade comes out. But this is not expected.
Many roms you see at the moment in this forum, are basicly under construction roms by HTC and then tweaked and improved by the chefs.
Also, the "new" roms for orange and voda have the same update as the one for HTC unbranded phones. So nothing new or spectaculair there.
official date
went and asked customer care bout the update,it will be out in 3 -4 weeks time,with a newer version of touchflo 3d
wohooooo
Hi, quarintus and thanks for the reply.
I am curious about this so I've just e-mailed HTC Europe support asking when WM6.5 will be available and if the upgrade will have the new TF3D & I received a reply to my questions from them almost instantly!
Here it is:
Thanks for your email. We are expecting the upgrade in about 3-4 weeks time, and as far as we are currently aware, it will include the new version of touchflo, although exact specs should be confirmed nearer the time Best regards, HTC Europe Support
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So, some time in November then...?
henry777_r7 said:
went and asked customer care bout the update,it will be out in 3 -4 weeks time,with a newer version of touchflo 3d
wohooooo
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LOL! Me too!
whoaaa i got the exact same answer from them and probably we asked them the same question and we posted the reply here on the same time
henry777_r7 said:
whoaaa i got the exact same answer from them and probably we asked them the same question and we posted the reply here on the same time
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LOL! Well they do say great minds think alike