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Full toucflo with cube in coming update for Tytn II

According to an interview made by the Swedish site www.mobil.se done with Christer Högström of HTC Sweden the full Touchflo functionality with the cube will be included in upcoming updates for the Tytn II. You should maybe take it with a grain of salt But that site is usually very well informed so we have to wait and see

Maybe only in the Swedish ROM?

abubasim said:
Maybe only in the Swedish ROM?
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I don´t think so They are not doing much with the roms once arrived from HTC

MayB they will also active the radio and video drivers in next update.

WM 6.1 anyone ?

This sounds very interesting - won't get my hopes up though! One question though - HTC eClub won' let me register as my handset is from Orange. How would I download this update, should it ever become available?

fisha21 said:
This sounds very interesting - won't get my hopes up though! One question though - HTC eClub won' let me register as my handset is from Orange. How would I download this update, should it ever become available?
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From here. If you have a carrier branded htc device you can't sign up. It has to be an unlocked htc branded device straight from them.
I'm just waiting on the inevitable poster to come in here and say "does anybody have this yet? please upload!"

I will post it here if necesarry.

That seems a bit weird my IMEI/Serial was fine to sign up to e-Club and I am on T-Mobile not an unbranded HTC TyTN II.
Russ

Deathace,
I'm with T-Mobile also but can't sign up with the serial number, did you use that or your IMEI to sign up with?
Regards
Jim

Could care less about touchflo.
All I was for xmas is d3d!

Windows Mobile 7

Hi all,
I hope you all had a great Xmas.
This is just a follow on from my preious post, in which I was asking for advice on whether I should get a Tytn II (thanks to all that replied to that post, by the way). I think I have made up my mind and will probably get a T-Mobile branded Vario III here in the UK.
My question is regarding the upcoming Windows Mobile 7 operating system...
How soon is this likely to be released? I heard on a mobile tech podcast that it could be as early as Q1 2008, with handsets being released with Win Mob 7.
How would this affect a purchase of the Vario III now? Would Win Mob 7 be a possible upgrade for the Tytn 2 / Vario III? I realise that any OS upgrade would be an operator decision, so how likely would T-Mobile UK release an upgrade for the Vario III? If not, would I be able to easily get hold of a Win Mob 7 ROM from these forums when the time comes? What about the most recent Win Mob 6.1 upgrade?
Apologies for all the questions, but it has thrown a small stone in the works regarding my purchase of the Vario III.
Any advice will be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Munkee

I'm not an expert, and do not have any links to (relevant) device producers or Microsoft.
But my understanding is that Q1 2008 will see the release of WinMo 6.1 Pro (The one out now is for non-touchscreen devices only). WinMo 7.0 is being worked on intensively, however from what I have read it won't be out till end 2008/early 2009.
Apparently WinMo 7.0 will be somewhat of a revolution though.
My advice to you: if you like the Kaiser, get it. 2 years ago, I held my breath because of the Samsung F700 (a friend working at Samsung had leaked the info)...I ended up waiting till this October, when I thought "screw it". Got the Kaiser instead (was on the Universal till then), and never looked back (the F700 was released in Nov, with most of the promised features omitted).
Nice little story, eh?! You get the point.
H.

Horrible post... I've just spent most of my Christmas holiday flashing my TyTN, re-flashing the flash, tweaking the re-flashed custom home cooked Dutty/Sleuth/Alex/Q/Schaps - and I've just got my phone how I like it ..... for today...
..... and then someone comes along and wiggles WM7 in front of my USB port.
Oh well, my Kaiser goes the same way as my Hermes, Wizard etc... If only I could stop flashing for a while I'd probably have time to sell the old phones

ach2 said:
Horrible post... I've just spent most of my Christmas holiday flashing my TyTN, re-flashing the flash, tweaking the re-flashed custom home cooked Dutty/Sleuth/Alex/Q/Schaps - and I've just got my phone how I like it ..... for today...
..... and then someone comes along and wiggles WM7 in front of my USB port.
Oh well, my Kaiser goes the same way as my Hermes, Wizard etc... If only I could stop flashing for a while I'd probably have time to sell the old phones
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lol...life is all about expectations, isn't it?! And the grass is always greener in the future...
H.

Rule Number 1 of Technology Buying:
Buy now unless there is an impending update(like next week or month).
I wouldn't worry about WM7 too much but about WM 6.1 which we'll probably all get an update for from our respective carriers(for people like me who run a carrier-based ROM like Alex's) So, just buy it and tinker away!

beret9987 you just snatched the words out of my mouth. I absolutely share your views. I think all existing WM6 devices will be upgradeable to 6.1 which will see the light of the day in Q1 of 2008 while WM7 is too far away to influence our present buying decisions."
Regards

I think its no point waiting for WM7. You know about Microsoft, especially their Vista release on time. Though if they're gonna release WM7 anytime sooner or later, our kings at the xda will bring it to existing devices Lol.. So just go ahead for a good WM6 device. Kaiser is good and powerful and at the same time a little huge and heavy. I love the Artemis for the design and weight.
I wrote an article on how to buy the best windows mobile device. Not an expert over there but your suggestions welcome!
Regards,
Carty..

Fantastic. Thanks for all your help guys. I'm looking forward to joining the community as a Vario III owner! )
Speak soon,
Munkee

munkee said:
Fantastic. Thanks for all your help guys. I'm looking forward to joining the community as a Vario III owner! )
Speak soon,
Munkee
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Glad to hear, great decision as the Kaiser is a great phone (especially if you get T-Mobiles web n walk unlimited data package...they sell it in the UK for 7.50pounds, don't know how much it is in the States though.)
And once you've flashed it with one of the wonderful ROMs here, you and your Kaiser will be flying like Vince Carter...
Enjoy,
H.

well ... my opinion might look a bit sarcastic, but since my old XDA II was re-born with WM6 (thx to ToFlock and other gurus here) I took a decision to wait at least for 6 months before buying a new rom-based device ... my criteria is to get a new device ONLY if it contains a new H/W that I might need ... I moved from XDA to XDA II for the camera and BT ... then moved to Universal for the VGA and WIFI .. then moved to Kaiser for the larger ram and GPS ... WM7 or else won't be the base for my decision of a new device.

Yeah.. I'd say Get kaiser now instead of waiting for WM7.
By the time WM7 device is out, you'll eventually hear through some rumours and leaked images of next-best-n-cool device(WM 8? or new codename)
There is no end to this feeling
So get it now and start Enjoy !!

Carty said:
I love the Artemis for the design and weight.
...
Regards,
Carty..
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Heavy is good.
Heavy is reliable.
If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
- Boris (Snatch)

lesevich said:
Glad to hear, great decision as the Kaiser is a great phone (especially if you get T-Mobiles web n walk unlimited data package...they sell it in the UK for 7.50pounds, don't know how much it is in the States though.)
And once you've flashed it with one of the wonderful ROMs here, you and your Kaiser will be flying like Vince Carter...
Enjoy,
H.
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Yup, i'm in the UK and am specifically looking at this device on T-Mobile mainly because of the £7.50 Web'N'Walk data plan. As for flashing the Vario III with one of the ROMs found here, how would this affect my contract with T-Mobile? If I do indeed flash the Vario with one of the ROMs, would I just need to hope that I don't ever need to take the handset back to T-Mobile if I ever have problems with it? ;o)
Thanks,
Munkee
P.S. I really need to change my Vince Carter sig.....glad he's not with the Raptors anymore! ;o)

ALL AT&T Tilt Owners Have Been Left Behind

The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.

bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Old news ! Not nice to start a " new " thread for something we had not expected anyway.

Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.

Do you realize what board you're on? Don't generalize, you have been left behind, not me. I've been running WM6.1 on my Tilt since the winter when it first leaked and have been running the lasted build since Monday.

bubbleking2 said:
Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
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Everyone here knows this and it is not worth posting as you will find out.

No, I have browsed through some threads and it seemed that a decent amount of people had not realized that only the HTC-Branded devices had recieved the update.

People who read stuff already knew for like a month that the update would probably be only for HTC branded devices, I guess you don't.
Anyways, it doesn't mean there won't be official updates for you, just that your company, whichever it is, will have to customize things first before releasing a rom, especially adding all their bloatware.
Oh, and about accelerated graphics, please, noone got them, it's not that you're a special target.

I know that there were some "fixes" but no drivers, and it has been said that ATT users will get it, just when they get ready to release it after adding all their crap.

Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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I am here to help , what was the question ? I just heard a rant that the mods have said ( continually ) is not appropriate for these forums. If you read the official announcement from HTC when they announced the TYtN upgrade, they said that they had no plans to release an upgrade fer the Tilt in the near future. Why is this rant important to this forum?

What are you talking about denco? This is not even a rant, it is a statement. I did not mean for it to be a rant and I did not mean for people to mistake it as one. I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update. It appeared as though alot of people had not realized this, or, at least enough for me to post. I can even show you some quotes if you need me too.
Denco, please look up the definition of 'rant'.

htc rom
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.

bubbleking2 said:
... I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update...
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I am not trying to entice the argument here, but i will add couple of things:
a) Most of the "regular" members here at xda already know that the tilt or any other branded version of the tytnII will not be getting the updates. (emphasis on regular).
b) none of the xda members really care about official updates as we have very gifted and talented chefs here that can port roms for us (and we are truly greatful for that) and seeing that the only diffrence between the TytnII and tilt is the front camera that shouldn't be a big deal.
c) drivers (which there aren't none) can also be ported. There are chefs already working on porting the diamond drivers over to tilt which runs vga.
Having said that i would like to thank you for the info ... but unfortunately its old news and no one likes repeatedly hearing old news.

bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Did you try hitting the download link at the bottom of this link -
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67&act=sd
? (Posted by jdmba)
Welcome to the ROM update for the AT&T Tilt. Please review the following prior to downloading and installing the latest ROM update (version 1.62.502.0) on your device.
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I very nearly downloaded this one by mistake. I registered with htc but my phone S/N is not a real HTC device and was still logged in, but I managed to (mistakenly) download the file from that link without much issue.
That help?

That's still only 6.0..

ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1111one
Those bastards! Oh wait. I'm not worse off than I was before. Even If I didn't have XDA to feed my obsession for ROM flashing.

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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um what is there to help with? It doesn't seem like the OP had a question or required help in any way. He came on and made an ignorant statement.

leon sprouse said:
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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I don't know who you spoke with but they were wrong; I just ran the HTC RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) from the HTC e-club web site and the splash screen clearly states Windows Mobile 6.1. I have an HTC TYTN II and it works great.

DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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LOL, nice call on NASIOC...as well as EvoM

The thing that puzzles me about this is the way the AT&T Tilt gets singled out as if it's special - in reality it's just one dozens of rebranded Kaisers around the globe, none of which have had an official update. I have a "Vodafone V1615", am I whining about where to download a Vodafone update for my Vodafone V1615? No, of course not, with the help of this forum it's been running the original HTC rom since October, and upgraded to the HTC 6.1 update a couple of days ago (before it was released by HTC in fact). So what's the problem?
The irony is the AT&T Tilt is (I believe) the only variant to have it's own section of the HTC website, and to actually have already had a rom upgrade back in February, albeit 6.0 only. Where are all the complaints about that from owners of the V1615, or the T-Mobile Vario 3, or the Orange Tytn II, or O2 XDA Stellar, or the "3" Tytn II, etc etc..?

Update for WM6.1 S730 confirmed

I just called HTC europe and they told me an update for s730 is in progress.
they didnt tell me when but sometimes this coming months.

Wicked!
gr. Rob

Wicked! Why didn't you ask when?
gr. Rob

rob205gti said:
Wicked! Why didn't you ask when?
gr. Rob
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i did ask but she didnt know exactly when.. she said in the coming month or 2

Unfortunately I was told the same thing ("about a month or two") about 6 months ago.
HTC support is very disorganized, and even to get that out of them I had to go through about 5 different people, who all spoke very broken English.
I will not be buying another HTC product; ever.

np247 said:
Unfortunately I was told the same thing ("about a month or two") about 6 months ago.
HTC support is very disorganized, and even to get that out of them I had to go through about 5 different people, who all spoke very broken English.
I will not be buying another HTC product; ever.
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frankly .ur reply made me sick.
do u mean u a going to buy another brand who hires good english speaking workers?
after all htc is the brand from taiwan. they speak chinese.

Depending on which departments he was at broken english might not be a good thing. Their offices in Taiwan yes broken english is understandable. But their main customer support line should have a few people if not everyone who can speak english decently. Europe and the North American region have a fair ammount of people purchasing their devices who speak english in one of its flavors.
I think that the language issue hit more upon that user due to the lack of informative people he kept getting transferred to time after time.
(At least I hope that's all it is )

any updates for now?

I'm looking for original S730 ROM.
I have WM6.1 by Alcaline but
-I can't synchronize ActiveSync (corp policy WM only)
-Internet shring don't work
-often freeze
I want rollback to original ROM but can't find it.

neverhood said:
I'm looking for original S730 ROM.
I want rollback to original ROM but can't find it.
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I was downgrading a week ago (for the same reasons). ROM is in Wiki (see bottom of page), i used RUU_Wings_HTC_WWE_1.31.405.1R2_radio_sign_25.62.30.03_1.58.17.02_Ship.

bigsponge said:
frankly .ur reply made me sick.
do u mean u a going to buy another brand who hires good english speaking workers?
after all htc is the brand from taiwan. they speak chinese.
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ur = you are? or did you mean you're? your perhaps?
If I spend a large sum of money on a cell phone, with a warranty, I expect the company to honour it. Being given the run around by people reading off screens with no follow-up is bad customer service. Them not being able to speak passable English is also annoying. Nothing sick or inappropriate about that one champ. If another brand offers me better support, and cares after the customers after the purchase, I will (and did) go that route.
Also, in Taiwan they speak both Chinese and Taiwanese. I visited almost a year ago with some of my co-workers. Just an FYI, bud.

np247 said:
Unfortunately I was told the same thing ("about a month or two") about 6 months ago.
HTC support is very disorganized, and even to get that out of them I had to go through about 5 different people, who all spoke very broken English.
I will not be buying another HTC product; ever.
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yeah, don't trust the date
I was cheated once and now I won't believe any rom release dates anymore until it is actually released on their site

Email from HTC Support:
"Good Day Thank you for your inquiry about the HTC S 730. Currently there are only plans to upgrade the following devices to Windows Mobile 6.1: HTC TyTN II (Already Available) HTC Touch Cruise HTC S730 There are currently no plans to supply this update for any other handsets. When the update is available it will be in the Support section on www.htc.com under Downloads. Please not that the download is only available for HTC branded handsets, i.e. handsets that are not from a network provider such as Orange, T-Mobile, O2 etc... Please do not reply to this email as this email address is not monitored for replies. Best regards, Tebogo Ndlela HTC Europe"

Drobcek28 said:
Email from HTC Support:
"Good Day Thank you for your inquiry about the HTC S 730. Currently there are only plans to upgrade the following devices to Windows Mobile 6.1: HTC TyTN II (Already Available) HTC Touch Cruise HTC S730 There are currently no plans to supply this update for any other handsets. When the update is available it will be in the Support section on www.htc.com under Downloads. Please not that the download is only available for HTC branded handsets, i.e. handsets that are not from a network provider such as Orange, T-Mobile, O2 etc... Please do not reply to this email as this email address is not monitored for replies. Best regards, Tebogo Ndlela HTC Europe"
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Funny. I was given the exact same reply yesterday.
Only thing that bothers me is that the upgrade for the TyTNII has been released some time ago (correct me if I'm wrong) and the upgrade for the Touch Cruise has also been released several weeks ago. They don't mention the upgrade for the Touch Dual which has also recently seen daylight. So I hope they know what they are talking about. Anyway it gives some hope though.

I doubt it'll be any better than Alcaline's excellent version.

The cooked are crap only the SMS chat owns

Official new ROM out
So, the update file is finally posted on the HTC web site.
I installed, and it seems to run fine, but too early to give a final opinion. Memory management 'feels' better.
BTW: Where in the version numbers does one see it's really 6.1? And is there a list out there of improvements over 6.0?

Hi Hfrank,
version number: start -> settings -> about -> in top of screen.
Is there an sms-chat in the update?

"About" only shows: Windows Mobile 6 Standard
CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4) - so not easy for someone like me to see the exact version (if I didn't know better I'd think OS 5.2 means WM 5.2, not 6.0 or 6.1 .
"Is there an sms-chat in the update?"
Haven't found one yet.
The more I think about it, it seems this is a bugfix update, but not update to 6.1...?

Hi
There isn't coming any 6.1 update for this phone. On the swedish site www.mobil.se there was a couple of weeks ago a chat with Christer Högström from HTC.
I asked him when the 6.1 update was to be released and the answer in swedish was:
"Det var planerat att uppgrader S730 till Wm6.1 men med den minnes kapasitet som finns på produkten blev det lite svårt att ge kunden en bra upplevelse. Där emot kommer vi med en Standard uppdatering till S730 om ca 2 veckor som förbättrar radio stabiliteten."
Quick translation: It was planed to upgrade s730 to WM 6.1 but with the memory capacity on the product it became hard to give the user a decent user experience. But we will come with a standard update that will improve radio stability.
Heres is the chat: http://www.mobil.se/ArticlePages/200810/28/20081028094638_MOB813/20081028094638_MOB813.dbp.asp
Sorry guys!

Official WM6.5 for Pro2 on 6 October!!

hi to all
i want download official wm 6.5 for my pro2!! is it Release from HTC?!!

{insert facepalm here}

I think he meant to put a ? instead of a !

I contacted HTC in the Netherlands and they wrote me they dont have an exact date yet when they will release it on their website.

Where do you get it will be released today?
And yes, when released, it will be available on the HTC website.

Some websites stated 6th Oct too, but since I cant find it anywhere in HTC website...
So I guess its not true that the new ROM is out lol

The fact that Microsoft officially releases it to the world does not meant that manufacturers such as HTC automaticaly release it as well.
In theory the development cycle for manufacturers only starts today. The fact that big players such as HTC have had WM6.5 at their disposal earlier than today only makes that their release date will be somewhat sooner than what normally could be expected ...
Patience y'all !!

Orange say they'll have 6.5 available for download by October 12th, so i guess HTC will release it by then.
http://bangbangtech.com/archives/111225/windows-mobile-6-5-update-arriving-october-12th

@HTC website:
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.

Useless thread... ...next time post in some off-topic thread please :S

Unchained said:
@HTC website:
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.
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yeah but frankly who is ever gonna do this upgrade to the orignial dull rom when you have those great chefs and great cooked roms. Even when they will release WM6.5, we will wait for cooked ones

mccune said:
Useless thread... ...next time post in some off-topic thread please :S
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+1 closing thread..