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Slowdown + Application compatibility + Defragmenting XDA2i

Hi,
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I'd be interested in everyone's comments re the slowdown caused by adding programs, and I guess others would too.
Part of it is normal caused by eating up the available memory, both storage (and ram?)
However I have found that some applications do not seem to work well on the XDA2i, even though they do actually work. The problem is that this only comes to light after a while, after you've actually shelled out the money for a product that seems fine.
I list below products that I have found work on my XDA2i and those that seem to irritate the XDA2i so that it gradually gets worse and needs a hard reset.
I have tried defragmenting, and believe that Pocket Mechanic works fine a few times then things grind to a halt.
I am not an expert, and obviously cannot prove that the products are faulty, so take what I list 'with a pinch of salt' - but it might be that others might add others or agree/disagree with my findings, and might be careful about thoughily testing before purchase.
1-Calc 2.3.1 seems fine
BIBLE WITH YOU for Pocket PC- GMPSoft seems fine.
Journal Bar seems fine
POCKET ARTIST seems fine
Pocket Controller- Professional 5.04 seems fine
POCKET DVD WIZARD seems fine
Pocket Streamer Pro seems fine
PocketBible - NIV Version by Laridian seems fine
RESCO EXPLORER 2005 seems fine
TCPMP (The Core Media Player) (freeware) seems fine
MTUX RingToneX - Ringtone Coloring 2.1 not sure about this
DVD to Pocket PC for me was problematic after version 2
1-Pass - Revolutionary Security App not sure
eXPerience (Windows XP Style Interface) had this running ok but slow on XDA2 but not tested on XDA2i
File Transfer Anywhere(PPC Anywhere) 3.01. Tried trial period but didn't like it.
iLOCK e-wallet password manager 1.0.1 had this running ok but slow on XDA2 but not tested on XDA2i
POCKET TV ENTERPRISE worked fine up to version 1.2 on my XDA2i
Pocket Mechanic. Not sure. I bought it to defrag XDA2i and storage. Found that after a few times the system slows down and needs to be restored.
TV Remote commander. Not sure about the usefulness because Very limited range.
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andromeda9,
try using Tweaks2K2.NET. quite amazing tweaking software. can speed up your display. i can feel the speed different.....

Tweaks2k2net
Thanks Clustered.
I've downloaded the trial. What settings worked best for you?

Under Video, I tick the Speed Up Display.

Thanks the display is quicker...
Thanks for the tip...
The display is quicker.
It seems overkill to go for Tweaks2K2 but just for one display fix, and the Date/time on the bar (I love it!) so is there anything else you might recommend?
Thanks

just try yourself....maybe you will like others.....

Ok.
Appreciate your help.

I removed O2 Active and the XDA2i is about 10 times quicker and more reliable now.
This is how I removed O2 active:
1) Use file explorer to navigate to: my device>windows>startup.
2) Move the file called connections to another folder.
3) Navigate to: my device>windows>fonts.
4) Rename the "xpdr_02" file to "xpdr_021".
5) Soft reset your phone.
6) Go to: Settings>system>remove programs.
7) Uninstall O2 active. You may get a message saying that certain dll files are in use in windows directory- simply use file explorer to rename these files and try again. Rename them back afterwards.
8) Use file explorer to navigate to: my device>windows>fonts.
9) Rename the "xpdr_021" file back to "xpdr_02".
10) Navigate to: my device>windows>mobile solutions.
11) Cut and paste this folder to your built in storage
12) Soft reset the phone.

Thanks Hedley!

Hedley,
:?:
I just thought of a question re your unistall procedure.
After unistall, can you change 'profile' in order not to cause problems on aircraft?
In Active, I quite liked the simplicity of the email setup. I suppose once it's installed it is not neccessary, but did you find / is there anything else likely to be needed after removing?
Thanks

It is definately Faster!!
I am impressed with this one, my XDAIIi is definately a lot faster!
Cheers for that! :lol:

Airplane trips?
andromeda9 said:
Thanks Hedley!
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Hi Hedley,
:?:
I'm thinking about what you describe, maybe migfht trial it over Christmas... but once Active is uninstalled can you tell me how I might cope with Airplane travel?
i.e. can you turn off the 'airplane' parts? because obviously just shutting down the XDA leves it actively listening.#
Thanks

"Flight" mode
You can enable flight mode (turn off mobile receiver) by tapping the reception icon on the top bar. In the bubble that appears, there is a link to "Turn on flight mode" / "Turn off flight mode"
The piece of software I really miss in the O2 active is the "profile" stuff, which unless I'm blind isn't in the 2003 OS. For example: normal, work, silent, noisy etc
I wouldn't manually uninstall the Active rubbish - do a corporate install instead. If you have to manually delete locked files etc etc you're asking for trouble later.

Thanks MMM
Thanks for the information and tips.
What is a corporate install - I am not familar with the term.

thorneh said:
7) Uninstall O2 active. You may get a message saying that certain dll files are in use in windows directory- simply use file explorer to rename these files and try again. Rename them back afterwards.
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Goto Start->Settings->Today->Items and uncheck the ones O2 puts on there (can't think off hand which ones they are!) this stops the dll in use messages.
mmm_ok said:
I wouldn't manually uninstall the Active rubbish - do a corporate install instead. If you have to manually delete locked files etc etc you're asking for trouble later.
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The only problem with the corporate install I found, was it didn't setup the O2 GPRS and MMS settings before finishing device setup, I had a pain setting them up manually, and when I finally managed it, they didn't work 100% (or maybe it was i didn't trust my work 100%!)
You can invoke a corporate install by selecting it when it asks if you are a personal or corporate user. it'll ask you for a password, which is 0506 if memory serves me correct.

PUG

Hi there sorry if this is the wrong section, but I was hoping Pug would be able to tell me how to upgrade my ROM, etc because I'am still using the original.
Also could someone be so kind as to list a tap by tap guide to setting up my XDA IIi to connect to O2 Active, and Mobile Web, as I have a pay as you go SIM card in the XDA IIi?
Thanks alot peeps.

rmurph17 said:
Hi there sorry if this is the wrong section, but I was hoping Pug would be able to tell me how to upgrade my ROM, etc because I'am still using the original.
Also could someone be so kind as to list a tap by tap guide to setting up my XDA IIi to connect to O2 Active, and Mobile Web, as I have a pay as you go SIM card in the XDA IIi?
Thanks alot peeps.
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Hi, There is plenty in the Alpine sections about upgrading to the various ROM sections, just have a look or search. You will find the files here, ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Alpine/
You can see what PUG ROM version I use, which I have found to be very good.
Sometime ago I uploaded all the cab files for your Carrier Settings, just copy cab to XDA IIi and tap to run, after the cab has installed the settings, it will delete itself, so make sure you keep a copy for future use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26463

rmurph17 said:
Hi there sorry if this is the wrong section, but I was hoping Pug would be able to tell me how to upgrade my ROM, etc because I'am still using the original.
Also could someone be so kind as to list a tap by tap guide to setting up my XDA IIi to connect to O2 Active, and Mobile Web, as I have a pay as you go SIM card in the XDA IIi?
Thanks alot peeps.
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The latest PUG upgrade is here, ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Alpine/O2_Roms__Camera_Fixed_Pug
There are 2 files here, one has all the unneccessary 02 software outstripped and the other with all the 02 software included.
Once downloaded, extract to a folder on your desktop (or anywhere on your PC). Make sure your PDA is connected via the cradle and Activesync. Goto the folder you have extracted the files to on your PC, click to run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, just click OK, then you should see a message saying it is checking your Device, your devices screen should go blank (Although you will see some dark text including the word Serial on your PDA)
You should then get a screen saying what ROM version you have and the New version, press ok then a screen will pop up saying checking device, the common thing to happen here is it will stop in this screen, what 5 mins if it doesn't change then don't touch your PDA, CTRL-Alt-DEL on your PC keyboard to bring up Task Manager, select the Process Tab and look for the file name MaUpgradeUt_noID, highlight it with one click and then press End Process button, go back to the folder and run MaUpgradeUt_noID again follow the screen instructions again and then it will update this time, indicated by a install bar screen, it will take about 20mins to complete.
Once updated remove your PDA from its cradle and hold the Power Button down and at the same time press the softreset hole with your Stylus, this will Hard Reset (Factory Settings) your device, depending on the version you have installed follow instructions on the PDA, it will install some more files which take 5 to 10 mins to install. Thats it you device is now updated.
For your carrier settings goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26463, there you will find the CAB files for your Phone Carrier (remember there is a file for PAYT and Contract for each Carrier, download the correct one for you), download the correct one for you and copy to your PDA, tap to run and your correct MMS/GPRS/WAP settings are then installed. Very Happy
**Please Note before you update your PDA. Please copy anything you want to keep on your PDA to your PC, don't worry about SD storage or the other Perminent Storage area as the update leaves these untouched. If you want to save your Contacts and or your Appointments and Tasks then goto Settings on your PDA select second Tab and then select Perminent Save, tick your selection and tap OK, then once you have carried out the update go back to Perminant Save and tick boxes you want restored and then tap OK, this function will dynamically keep your backup upto date, so you can use this anytime.
Phew, hope this helps.

I have tried all teh CAB files, and all the individual settings, to get full GPRS working on my O2 PAYT SIM.
After 2 emails to o2's technical department (which at least they answered within 24 hours) I was assured that the reason I couldnt connect is the APN whould be set to mobile.o2.co.uk - but that ONLY worked on contract plans.
They categorically stated that PAYT O2 ONLY features WAP GPRS, i.e. those small WAP-sites suited to mobile phones, and not the 'full deal' (ie web browsing, irc, MSN MEssenger etc)
...so, after a LONG time with O2 PAYT, I am now a Vodafone customer with a Vodafone PAYT SIM!
I can surf the web, join my irc channels, use MSN Messenger, the works, and they emailled me the correct settings the very same day I emailled them to ask for them too.
Joe Pinball
now a happy Vodafone GPRS internet user!

Hi,
just got an 2nd hand xda IIi earlier on today and seem somewhat shafted as i only have macs and no pcs, been looking arround for the last few hours to find some form of sync software which doesnt cost
can anyone tell me how to update the rom from a mac?
cheers

Ok,
so im guessing from spending hours searching the forums here last night unless im willing to buy pocketmac or missing sync there is nothing.
think i will use a virtual pc *sigh*
roll on the x86 mac hardware.

Mac OS is based on BSD. I believe there are scripts floating around here in perl that any decent *nix flavour should run. Perhaps some of these might be able to help you.

if you can run a Virtual PC with access to USB ports on the Mac, I'd reckon that would be the easiest (!) approach to adding Activesync for syncing files etc & installing any applications, as all of the pocket PC apps' installers are also windows-based.
Joe

had a long look for perl stuff and didnt find much so got virtual pc installed now. just got pugs rom on the xda and the speed has incresed (it doesn't feel as slugish anymore) wifi signal is a lot better, but i still seem to have BT issues, wonder if thats something to do with my headset though.. sounds like bad reception sometimes even though the phone is only in my coat pocket.

TuMa v1.1 - ALPHA - WM5 ROM - Wizard Ported to BA

Ok everyone, the next "incantation" of the TuMa ROM is now available!
This ROM is a radical expansion and departure from mamaich's original. I've replaced a number of elements which were OMAP code, with XScale code - taken from the Himalaya, Jasjar, and various ROMs I have had access to. I've also upgraded some applications, and put duplicates of different versions in as well (to determine which is better), and have added other various features, tools, and widgets.
The ROM requires a fair amount of testing now, and the only way I believe this can be done would be to let "everyone" at it and see how it goes. There is a LOT of untested functionality in the ROM, as I don't have access to a number of devices or configurations. So, feedback is definately needed!
There have been a LOT of changes in this ROM, and because of this I'd like to term this ROM as being an ALPHA version. If you have the will and the way, give it a go. I'm finding the performance even better (so far) - but it's only been an hour of testing, and in truth ... I've only managed to test very little of it. 8)
Considerations for this ROM:
All core elements of WM5 are now in the ROM. This includes the previously removed Pocket Powerpoint, Excel, and other files. So, all of the CAB files which I've created specifically for this ROM can be OPTIONALLY installed!
There are now 3 CABs by default in the EXTROM folder:
1). Midlet Manager
2). Arcsoft MMS Composer
3). IA Camera
This means that the ROM should be directly usable in devices without a Camera. If you have such a device, then make sure that you don't install the CAB file (just cancel it)!
If you do have a Camera, you MUST install the Camera AFTER the MMS Installation, as I've chained the two installations together. MMS will install without Camera, and then the Camera CAB will enable the Camera in MMS Composer.
One thing - localization is set to "New Zealand" (since that's where I am), so some of you will need to change this back to your region. (Sorry - it's my ROM after all )
The ROM is in /Uploads/Blue Angel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip
Contents: nk.nbf, and the EXTROM folder with CAB files - so, update the operator and Flash away ...
Explore the features, test all of the elements, and let me know if everything is working properly.
All the best of luck with it!
*** D-OH! First Bug ... The "Contacts" SoftKey is wrong ... just open up the SoftKey Control Panel Applet and reset it ... works fine then. Sorry Guys. :-(

Is it possible to put a direct link to the file? I can't really find it...

I get a checksum error using BAUpgrade; MaUpgradeUt doesnt show any rom info. This is what i have always used to fix my roms previously
xda3nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x20040521
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -so O2___001 -sl WWE nk.nba
xda3nbftool -c -u NK.nba
xda3nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x20040521
Anything wrong here?
Edit: I was in bootloader mode

Hello efjay, could you help me here? I can't really find the file to download

raymondu999 are you using an FTP client? Thats probably the best way to get it.
Edit: try this link ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip

No actually, I'm only going the ftp://xd[email protected] whatever thing...

Does it work for you? Or is it my computer that's acting funny and not letting me download it?
Actually, nevermind, efjay, it's working for me now. THANKS A LOT!!!! I owe you one!

No problem, pls post if you are able to flash ok. I seem to be stuck.

No problem, willdo. However, don't expect anything too soon... My internet is slow as hell, so I'll be downloading for a looooooooooooong time....

Hi All
First post so please be gentle LOL
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
will let ya all know how i get on
any ideas on the double programs would be most greatful
cheers for now
Nic
Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else

nks said:
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
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Hmmm ... I had this as well when I was building this ROM myself. I think it's because some folders have been specified as "PermDir()", and the shortcuts are being kept.
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
I think I may have messed something up in the formatting specifications for the Flash Storage device ... i.e. it checks the existing format, and if it's still ok, it keeps all permament items around. This is probably BUG #2. *sigh*
Let me know how you get on ...
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Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else
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Just hoping that this will solve my issues with the device, and be useful for other people too. 8)

Cheers Tuatara
Followed steps 1-6 and it looks ok now :lol: will do some more testing tomorrow with gps,phone,sms etc and let you know...
nearly 3am here in uk so time for bed
thanks again
Nic

Tuatara said:
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
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Installed the upgrade, did note the above problem. In step 2) and 5) files exist that prohibit the folder deletion, like PIE in step 5. Not sure why I get a different response than nks. Ended up deleting the duplicate entries in the Start Menu.
This version is much faster, great work.

rschell said:
1) Noticed the Double menu items, can delete some directories.
2) Noticed that the activesync connection does not remain connected. I have to disconnect and reconnect
3) Sound issues with WM Player playing off a SD card remain until the buffer is full (about 1 min into the song)
Will keeping probing for other issues.
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Thanks heaps for the feedback!
Right ... I think my reworking of the Flash Storage specification - while improving the performance, has had a few other 'odd' side effects. Probably the SD Card buffering/paging has been affected, and similarly resulting in the double menu items.
As for the ActiveSync disconnect issue - I did have that happen to me just now as well. Very strange though, I simply opened another "explorer" window, and everything came back immediately. Maybe I've changed the timeouts/timing for the usb driver too much.
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
I'll try to have a look into this sometime (very late) tonight after I get my "real" work done now.
Oh ... and on the "bad news" front ... I'm going to be away again for another 2 weeks now - this time in Germany, going to be exhibiting at Cebit - leaving Sunday. *sigh* a bit last minute and unexpected all this.
Hopefully though, I'll have time enough to do some patches or an upgrade to the ROM for anything which is found before that time. So keep testing and letting me know!

Hello Mr. T Great work by the way !!! it really works great, much faster and responsive!! you will be a saint for all us geeks !!!
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
well just happy to report! cheers!!
Great Work!!

another thing, I really believe that the problem with WM5 for BA is the phone side of the ROM I really think that there is an incompatibility issue here. because when I use the device with Radio off, it works perfect! on every issue.

Tuatara said:
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error. I tried installing the camera cab on an earlier version with no adverse effects on the SX66, but I prefer not to have it around in the PDA. I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
I'm not a user of MMS right now, so I can't tell there. Pocket MSN works. The activesync connection dropping out does have something to do internet access, connection stays active until an attempt to connect to the internet. MSN and FTP don't appear to use the activesync connection when it is available.
Wifi works, but I can't thru the portal at the hotel I'm at tonight, so I can't do a full test. Don't have my bluetooth adapter with me to check it.
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.

SysCrasher13 said:
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
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Move the desired ringtone to the \windows\rings folder and it should work, it does for me.

rschell said:
Tuatara said:
... SX66 ... NON-Camera installation ...
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error.
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That's great to hear ... and no slowdowns either I presume, which is very good news for SX66 users now.
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I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
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Yeah ... I think a lot of people are like that - so having the choice to add MMS, Camera, or Midlets lets everyone decide to keep just what they want.
rschell said:
Pocket MSN works.
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Oh ... forgot to mention in my first post ... Pocket MSN was also updated to the latest version I could find/merge into the ROM.
rschell said:
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.
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NOTE: This is very easy to do for anyone else. All 'accessories' are simply loaded in the /Windows/Startup folder, so if you don't want something (like Cyberon Voice Dial, or Screen Rotate, or psShutXP, etc.) you can simply remove it from this directory, or disable it, and it'll no longer run. Similarly, all buttons are now configured as configurable buttons (not hard coded through registry, etc.) This way you can easily customize the device how you like it.
Remember, it's also not using any of your Storage memory for these 'extra' applications - so there's no cost in having or deleting them.
I'll check the board again in a little while ... must get back to work! I might be able to make a v1.1a later tonight, which will hopefully correct some of these initial problems which have been found. (If I find the time ... )

hello all ...
im not try this new ROM but 1 question... ist work to use BA as modem with this ROM ???
thanks in advanced...

Restoring app (QuickGPS) from Windows directory?

During the hunt for a fix for the hopeless GPS in the new 6.1 Rom, I stupidly uninstalled QuickGPS, and now - since I've found no other fix and it's patently something that HTC need to sort out - I'd like to reinstall it, in the dim hope it will be useful again some day.
Although there are various QuickGPS cab files floating around, none of the ones I've found are the peculiar 6.1 version (marked "Version 1.0" but copyright 2008, and with a higher build number starting 220.821). The only ones I've managed to download from anywhere are the original versions from 6.0 Roms, which - while they don't work any worse than the newer one - aren't any better either, and may well prove to have some other problem under 6.1. They must have changed it for a reason right?
Now it turns out, from reading up elsewhere, that my QuickGPS is still there on the device, sort of - if I set File Explorer to "show all files" and browse the \Windows folder, QuickGPS.exe is there, and it's the right version - I can even run it and download data. But it's no longer an installed program, so doesn't run automatically, and (since I deleted it's registry entries before) it's not setup properly there either.
Without a CAB to re-install it properly, is there any way I can persuade my phone to accept it back as an installed application, short of a hard reset? Or, does anyone perchance have it as a CAB?

I do not know why people are using the newest QuickGPS. THe only difference the program has is cosmetic. THe only purpose of QuickGPS is to have your phone read the GPS signal quick if you are using AGPS. Hence why it needs to connect to the internet to work.
True GPS signal is one from the GPS receiver built into the phone. First are you using AGPS??? Secondly if not, I do not see the reason for having it on your phone unless your using AGPS.

Ok, firstly, there is no "cosmetic" difference between the different builds of QuickGPS, so I'm kind of doubting your authority there straight from the off. The lack of any obvious difference is exactly what makes me think there probably is a more significant change under the hood. Secondly I was using the latest QuickGPS because that's what came with the latest 6.1 ROM update (which I'm also using). It wasn't some crazy whim of mine; HTC put it there, presumably for a reason.
You're confusing QuickGPS with A-GPS; in the context of the Tytn II they're two different things. QuickGPS is an app which downloads ephemeris data when online (during Activesync sessions etc) for use later offline. In theory, the GPS should be able to use this data later to speed up fixes, since it already has the empheris data and doesn't need to download this from the satellite. At the point at which you're out and about using the GPS, no internet connection is needed, because QuickGPS has already stored the data locally. This worked well (for me at least) on the old 6.0 ROM, but is sadly broken in the 6.1 update (and no, reverting to the original QuickGPS doesn't fix it - the problem is most likely in the radio).
A-GPS is different, it's using live data from the network to help triangulate position and speed up the fix - meaning a live connection is needed whenever you use GPS. It's only active if you have it switched on in the registry, and AFAIK only certain networks support it - on HTC branded devices it's always switched off by default.

Is there really no way to reinstall an app, when all the files are apparently just sitting there?

in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file

The only answer i know will work for sure is a hard reset. (Not the answer you were after I'm sure).
After messing with various quickgps cabs trying to fix this problem i managed to stop my gps switching on at all. (Didn't go near the Windows Intermediate Driver settings).
The only positive is it gave me the opportunity to try a new 6.1 rom (Dutty's Diamond) and i'm really happy with the rom but sadly we still have the quickgps issue.
For a test i compared to a friends Artemis and after a Quickgps update his tomtom had all the sats in view within a few seconds. My posh Vario 3 didn't have anything.
pjam

XtreMe_G said:
in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file
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QuickGPS gets installed automatically after a hard reset - it's in ROM as one of HTC's customisations. The surprising thing is that I was able to uninstall it, through the remove programs screen.
The files are still there because, apparently, they never left - they just got hidden. "Show all files" in explorer reveals them though. What isn't there is an installation cab - just the app files themselves, doing nothing.
That said, since I ran one of those files it now *is* doing something, happilly - after I messed with the options it re-established it's registry settings and is now running again as a service in the background, surviving soft resets. I manually recreated the shortcut in "programs" and basically all is well again, although since the option to uninstall hasn't returned it presumably still considers itself uninstalled somehow...

About the cosmetic difference I was referring to the QuickGPS in the newest DIamond Roms that are being ported over. I appologize for not reading your first post more clearly. Sorry about that

Diamond - MDA Compact IV First Impressions

Dear All,
OK, I need to change the Signature. I shall do that after writing this entry..
So, I upgraded to the MDA Compact IV on Saturday morning through T-Mobile. I managed a free upgrade, which was nice.
I had owned an MDA3 for quite some time before moving away from PDA Phones. When I used to play atound with everything, we were trying to get the Blue Angel to go from WM2003 to WM5! - That will show you how long ago it was!
Anyhow, I got the Diamond on Saturday morning and spent a few hours charging it up. I played with the T Mobile software for a little bit before suddenly needing to flash the ROM with something a little more erm, better.
Having cruised through the Site, I did note that there were a few suble changes to what was needed to flash a ROM compared to how it used to be done!
Not knowing exactly who's ROM to go for, I trialled a few ROMs and have now settled on what matched my closest needs.
Everything was quite easy and I now have a Diamond powered by Swiftblades version 7 ROM with the 16MB Page Pool. I have just noted though that there is now a version 7.5 using a new build so I'll flash that later and see what differences I get. I may flash a lower Page Pool as I don't need to Multi-task different applications that much.. Yet..
As a result of the Version 7 ROM, the phone is running a lot smoother without any noticable lag however it is early days yet and the phone has not really been used in anger yet!
I also updated to the 08 Radio and I have to say, I am impressed with the Signal strength compared to the other phones I've had recently.
Battery life is actually quite good so far. As I just said, the phone has not seen that may calls but I have fiddled a lot whilst looking around. It had its initial charge on Saturday afternoon and with the fiddling, a couple of calls, some texting and a couple of email exchanges, I'm down to about 50% power. However, that was this morning and I've not used it since.
Anyhow, that's it really. As I become more used to the phone, I'll start helping out on guiding various Newbie questions, etc like I used to in my younger days!

Good review, that's exactly what i did, though i flashed a differnt ROM first.
What contract are you on if i may ask?
Im on flex web n walk £40/m (£90 cashback), the phone was free and i get 575 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited internet (works out £420 which ain't bad at all )
Also another question, i don't suppose you have seen a program that is actually good at backup & restoring apps/messages/contacts etc? At the moment i use Jeyo Mobile companion, which means i save all my contacts and threaded sms, then i backup my Start Menu folder and just copy it back after (as all my programs are installed on Internal Storage). This isn't really that effective as some programs may still have changed, some maybe updated in the new ROM and i lose the registry settings for Activating my apps/games etc.
Sorry for putting the pressure on you

Addicteddddd said:
Good review, that's exactly what i did, though i flashed a differnt ROM first.
What contract are you on if i may ask?
Im on flex web n walk £40/m (£90 cashback), the phone was free and i get 575 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited internet (works out £420 which ain't bad at all )
Also another question, i don't suppose you have seen a program that is actually good at backup & restoring apps/messages/contacts etc? At the moment i use Jeyo Mobile companion, which means i save all my contacts and threaded sms, then i backup my Start Menu folder and just copy it back after (as all my programs are installed on Internal Storage). This isn't really that effective as some programs may still have changed, some maybe updated in the new ROM and i lose the registry settings for Activating my apps/games etc.
Sorry for putting the pressure on you
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Pressure..? Hah - No worries..
Ok, I'm on an old fashioned Flext 30 Contract. I've managed to stay on the twelve month renewal plan so far. I pay £30 per month and that gives me 500 mins, 400 texts and unlimited Web & Walk. I did try to change a little while ago to a cheaper alternative however, T-Mobile themselves said that it there was nothing else that they could offer.. There's probably different plans available now but I think it's going to be best to stay with what I have for now.
Regarding back-up and restore, I guess this is something I need to look into. What I ended up doing back in the Blue Angel days was keeping the required Cabs in an external Memory to restore various Programs back on to it post flashing. The way then was to copy the cab into the Windows directory and then run it from there. Othere items such as Contacts, Messages, emails, etc were restored by running active sync before flashing then again afterwards.. I see there's still the PIM Back-up facility but in the Blue Angel days, it couldn't always be trusted and you ended up losing contacts, message settings, etc etc
Actually, remembering now, I used to keep a list of what needed changing within the registry settings for the programs I had installed.. haha
I understand that things might have moved on a bit now. For example, I noticed somewhere on the settings that Cabs can be installed and there's an option not to delete them after the installation process.
To be honest, I just need to play and experiment with the Diamond to see what it can and cannot do.
I've just looked back through what I've written thinking that actually, this doesn't really answer your questions but still, it's nice to talk! I won't finish by saying "Hope this helps.." hehe..
Nice to meet you.. I see you're running the 05 Radio.. Any reason why you're not using the 08..? I've read on here that there appears to be a positive leaning towards T-Mobile UK reception..

Looking forward to your reviews, always good to read something sensible and well written.
A couple of things to help you based on your posts so far - I've recently installed Swift's 7.5 lite ROM and so far it seems excellent - very quick and doesn't contain loads of software I'll never use. I use the 12mb pp version which works fine for me, but to be honest I've not tried the 0 or 16 versions.
I'm also on the 05 radio, and T-Mobile like you, and to be honest haven't tried anything later because it seems to work fine. If it ain't broke...
I tend to keep all my common cab files on the internal storage, you can install from there and by default they aren't deleted. No need to copy to the windows folder. I've reset so many times I can get back to a full working system within about an hour these days! The advanced config tools out there means there is little need to hack about in the registry these days, and ROM's like the excellent Swift ones often have many of the reg optimisations already set.

Nice review
Regarding the post flashing technique, I've tried sprite backup and SPB to restore across rom upgrades but never had much success - you always find that there are some things which don't work right. Also you end up overwriting things in the registry which are part of the new rom and have problems.
I have quite a few apps installed, but the only surefire way to get it right is to start fresh when you flash.
My technique is:
- Flash the new rom
- Set up the owner information and bluetooth deviceid etc.. (you need to do this for apps which have registrations based on the owner). I also set up things like ringtones now before installing anything - no reason other than personal preference.
- Connect to activesync to sync contacts/appointments
- Use either sprite or pimbackup for SMS etc..
- Set up email accounts
- Install all old apps (cabs stored on internal storage. I also put things which install through activesync on internal storage so I've got them to hand for reinstalling).
- Set up all apps how I like them.
- Set up the today screen, and TF3D programs/weather etc..
- All done!
It usually takes about an hour. It's a pretty dull process but it works and it's definitely the best way to do it.
There are apps like sashimi which automates the install process, but I find the installing from cabs part usually only takes around 5 minutes anyway - its the configuring which takes longer.

StarMonkee said:
Nice review
Regarding the post flashing technique, I've tried sprite backup and SPB to restore across rom upgrades but never had much success - you always find that there are some things which don't work right. Also you end up overwriting things in the registry which are part of the new rom and have problems.
It usually takes about an hour. It's a pretty dull process but it works and it's definitely the best way to do it.
There are apps like sashimi which automates the install process, but I find the installing from cabs part usually only takes around 5 minutes anyway - its the configuring which takes longer.
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Hi Star,
yeah, sounds very much like the basics haven't changed.. It's still a little long winded but hey, it stops you getting bored !!
Comment noted about over-writing items in the registry and it affecting ROM optimisations.. It's something I hadn't thought about..
ewans said:
A couple of things to help you based on your posts so far - I've recently installed Swift's 7.5 lite ROM and so far it seems excellent - very quick and doesn't contain loads of software I'll never use. I use the 12mb pp version which works fine for me, but to be honest I've not tried the 0 or 16 versions.
I'm also on the 05 radio, and T-Mobile like you, and to be honest haven't tried anything later because it seems to work fine. If it ain't broke...
I tend to keep all my common cab files on the internal storage, you can install from there and by default they aren't deleted. No need to copy to the windows folder. I've reset so many times I can get back to a full working system within about an hour these days! The advanced config tools out there means there is little need to hack about in the registry these days, and ROM's like the excellent Swift ones often have many of the reg optimisations already set.
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Hi Ewans,
OK, I've just updated to the 7.5 ROM so I'll check that out over the next 24hrs or so.. I've gone for the 12MB PP as to assess what difference it makes from the recommended 16MB PP Version.
You know, I might keep with the 08 Radio for a week or so and change to the 05 radio to see what differences I see..
Once I can pass on some observations, I will..

Dutty's ROM 2.0 Full, customized manilla abit (removed curtains, removed some tabs, add tabs [call history/comm manager], wallpaper)
Seems to be faster & more stable than Panosha's when i tested that but i haven't moved since as i got alot of apps installed and no decent way to backup the registry keys for them at the moment.