Dear All,
OK, I need to change the Signature. I shall do that after writing this entry..
So, I upgraded to the MDA Compact IV on Saturday morning through T-Mobile. I managed a free upgrade, which was nice.
I had owned an MDA3 for quite some time before moving away from PDA Phones. When I used to play atound with everything, we were trying to get the Blue Angel to go from WM2003 to WM5! - That will show you how long ago it was!
Anyhow, I got the Diamond on Saturday morning and spent a few hours charging it up. I played with the T Mobile software for a little bit before suddenly needing to flash the ROM with something a little more erm, better.
Having cruised through the Site, I did note that there were a few suble changes to what was needed to flash a ROM compared to how it used to be done!
Not knowing exactly who's ROM to go for, I trialled a few ROMs and have now settled on what matched my closest needs.
Everything was quite easy and I now have a Diamond powered by Swiftblades version 7 ROM with the 16MB Page Pool. I have just noted though that there is now a version 7.5 using a new build so I'll flash that later and see what differences I get. I may flash a lower Page Pool as I don't need to Multi-task different applications that much.. Yet..
As a result of the Version 7 ROM, the phone is running a lot smoother without any noticable lag however it is early days yet and the phone has not really been used in anger yet!
I also updated to the 08 Radio and I have to say, I am impressed with the Signal strength compared to the other phones I've had recently.
Battery life is actually quite good so far. As I just said, the phone has not seen that may calls but I have fiddled a lot whilst looking around. It had its initial charge on Saturday afternoon and with the fiddling, a couple of calls, some texting and a couple of email exchanges, I'm down to about 50% power. However, that was this morning and I've not used it since.
Anyhow, that's it really. As I become more used to the phone, I'll start helping out on guiding various Newbie questions, etc like I used to in my younger days!
Good review, that's exactly what i did, though i flashed a differnt ROM first.
What contract are you on if i may ask?
Im on flex web n walk £40/m (£90 cashback), the phone was free and i get 575 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited internet (works out £420 which ain't bad at all )
Also another question, i don't suppose you have seen a program that is actually good at backup & restoring apps/messages/contacts etc? At the moment i use Jeyo Mobile companion, which means i save all my contacts and threaded sms, then i backup my Start Menu folder and just copy it back after (as all my programs are installed on Internal Storage). This isn't really that effective as some programs may still have changed, some maybe updated in the new ROM and i lose the registry settings for Activating my apps/games etc.
Sorry for putting the pressure on you
Addicteddddd said:
Good review, that's exactly what i did, though i flashed a differnt ROM first.
What contract are you on if i may ask?
Im on flex web n walk £40/m (£90 cashback), the phone was free and i get 575 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited internet (works out £420 which ain't bad at all )
Also another question, i don't suppose you have seen a program that is actually good at backup & restoring apps/messages/contacts etc? At the moment i use Jeyo Mobile companion, which means i save all my contacts and threaded sms, then i backup my Start Menu folder and just copy it back after (as all my programs are installed on Internal Storage). This isn't really that effective as some programs may still have changed, some maybe updated in the new ROM and i lose the registry settings for Activating my apps/games etc.
Sorry for putting the pressure on you
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Pressure..? Hah - No worries..
Ok, I'm on an old fashioned Flext 30 Contract. I've managed to stay on the twelve month renewal plan so far. I pay £30 per month and that gives me 500 mins, 400 texts and unlimited Web & Walk. I did try to change a little while ago to a cheaper alternative however, T-Mobile themselves said that it there was nothing else that they could offer.. There's probably different plans available now but I think it's going to be best to stay with what I have for now.
Regarding back-up and restore, I guess this is something I need to look into. What I ended up doing back in the Blue Angel days was keeping the required Cabs in an external Memory to restore various Programs back on to it post flashing. The way then was to copy the cab into the Windows directory and then run it from there. Othere items such as Contacts, Messages, emails, etc were restored by running active sync before flashing then again afterwards.. I see there's still the PIM Back-up facility but in the Blue Angel days, it couldn't always be trusted and you ended up losing contacts, message settings, etc etc
Actually, remembering now, I used to keep a list of what needed changing within the registry settings for the programs I had installed.. haha
I understand that things might have moved on a bit now. For example, I noticed somewhere on the settings that Cabs can be installed and there's an option not to delete them after the installation process.
To be honest, I just need to play and experiment with the Diamond to see what it can and cannot do.
I've just looked back through what I've written thinking that actually, this doesn't really answer your questions but still, it's nice to talk! I won't finish by saying "Hope this helps.." hehe..
Nice to meet you.. I see you're running the 05 Radio.. Any reason why you're not using the 08..? I've read on here that there appears to be a positive leaning towards T-Mobile UK reception..
Looking forward to your reviews, always good to read something sensible and well written.
A couple of things to help you based on your posts so far - I've recently installed Swift's 7.5 lite ROM and so far it seems excellent - very quick and doesn't contain loads of software I'll never use. I use the 12mb pp version which works fine for me, but to be honest I've not tried the 0 or 16 versions.
I'm also on the 05 radio, and T-Mobile like you, and to be honest haven't tried anything later because it seems to work fine. If it ain't broke...
I tend to keep all my common cab files on the internal storage, you can install from there and by default they aren't deleted. No need to copy to the windows folder. I've reset so many times I can get back to a full working system within about an hour these days! The advanced config tools out there means there is little need to hack about in the registry these days, and ROM's like the excellent Swift ones often have many of the reg optimisations already set.
Nice review
Regarding the post flashing technique, I've tried sprite backup and SPB to restore across rom upgrades but never had much success - you always find that there are some things which don't work right. Also you end up overwriting things in the registry which are part of the new rom and have problems.
I have quite a few apps installed, but the only surefire way to get it right is to start fresh when you flash.
My technique is:
- Flash the new rom
- Set up the owner information and bluetooth deviceid etc.. (you need to do this for apps which have registrations based on the owner). I also set up things like ringtones now before installing anything - no reason other than personal preference.
- Connect to activesync to sync contacts/appointments
- Use either sprite or pimbackup for SMS etc..
- Set up email accounts
- Install all old apps (cabs stored on internal storage. I also put things which install through activesync on internal storage so I've got them to hand for reinstalling).
- Set up all apps how I like them.
- Set up the today screen, and TF3D programs/weather etc..
- All done!
It usually takes about an hour. It's a pretty dull process but it works and it's definitely the best way to do it.
There are apps like sashimi which automates the install process, but I find the installing from cabs part usually only takes around 5 minutes anyway - its the configuring which takes longer.
StarMonkee said:
Nice review
Regarding the post flashing technique, I've tried sprite backup and SPB to restore across rom upgrades but never had much success - you always find that there are some things which don't work right. Also you end up overwriting things in the registry which are part of the new rom and have problems.
It usually takes about an hour. It's a pretty dull process but it works and it's definitely the best way to do it.
There are apps like sashimi which automates the install process, but I find the installing from cabs part usually only takes around 5 minutes anyway - its the configuring which takes longer.
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Hi Star,
yeah, sounds very much like the basics haven't changed.. It's still a little long winded but hey, it stops you getting bored !!
Comment noted about over-writing items in the registry and it affecting ROM optimisations.. It's something I hadn't thought about..
ewans said:
A couple of things to help you based on your posts so far - I've recently installed Swift's 7.5 lite ROM and so far it seems excellent - very quick and doesn't contain loads of software I'll never use. I use the 12mb pp version which works fine for me, but to be honest I've not tried the 0 or 16 versions.
I'm also on the 05 radio, and T-Mobile like you, and to be honest haven't tried anything later because it seems to work fine. If it ain't broke...
I tend to keep all my common cab files on the internal storage, you can install from there and by default they aren't deleted. No need to copy to the windows folder. I've reset so many times I can get back to a full working system within about an hour these days! The advanced config tools out there means there is little need to hack about in the registry these days, and ROM's like the excellent Swift ones often have many of the reg optimisations already set.
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Hi Ewans,
OK, I've just updated to the 7.5 ROM so I'll check that out over the next 24hrs or so.. I've gone for the 12MB PP as to assess what difference it makes from the recommended 16MB PP Version.
You know, I might keep with the 08 Radio for a week or so and change to the 05 radio to see what differences I see..
Once I can pass on some observations, I will..
Dutty's ROM 2.0 Full, customized manilla abit (removed curtains, removed some tabs, add tabs [call history/comm manager], wallpaper)
Seems to be faster & more stable than Panosha's when i tested that but i haven't moved since as i got alot of apps installed and no decent way to backup the registry keys for them at the moment.
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I have just reflashed the firmware on my UK Orange SPV M2000 after porting my mobile operator over to virgin mobile. i did this so i could remove the Operator customisations which were just taking up ram, and also to see if i could make my phone more reliable (one of my biggest bugbears is not being able to use Wifi without a soft reset) as a result i can switch on and of bluetooth and wifi at will without any errors, and i havent performed a soft reset because of a problem in 6 days (i have soft resetted after installing some programs as it was required by the prog)
I achieved by first downloading ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/BlueAngel_Roms/BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar and removing the Radio_.nbf file and flashing that to the phone.
once that was done i did a hard reset then flashed radion rom 1.13 as described here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.13_Upgrade
I then downloaded all the files from here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAn...ERK_1.4X_002/I-Mate_PDA2K_Ext_ROM_140176_WWE/ into a directory on my PC
I then deleted
Default_ImateV112.002.cab -> dont need it as i havent got an imate so dont need imate email
Default_Caller_ID_BA_AKU26_RC20.CAB -> i will explain why in a minute
Default_Fax_V2.09_WWE_0720.CAB -> havent got a need for faxes
Default_SkypeForPocketPC.CAB -> this is pants and so is skype
and then i then added cabs for the following programs prefixing them with the Default_ so they would install after hard reset
Voice command 1.5 for Phone edition -> i think every one uses this
Photo Contacts Pro v 3.01 -> This is fantastic beats the IA caller ID hands down
I then used the extrom unlocker and deleted all the files in the extended rom and then copied my downloaded files into it. the then locked and hid the extended rom again and then performed a hard reset
once that was done i added in the Virgin GPRS and MMS settings (If anyone wants help with this part for virgin settings let me know as i am working on creating a CAB file with these settings) and renamed device and added owner information.
There are two problems now, the first i can fix, the camera raises the backlight to full and then keeps it that way. i just deleted camera.exe from the windows directory and then replaced it with the camera app that was originally on the device (make a backup of this file b4 you start)
The only problem that is left is a problem that happened with WMP9 and WMP10 if music is playing and you close WMP then your device loses all sound. i dont know of a workaround for this, but i make sure i pause any music before i close the app, not a big thing really
I then loaded on these apps mainly into the storage memory except that specifically request you install them into main memory
SPB Pocket Plus 2.5
SPB weather
SPB Diary
Ewallet
Tomtom Navigator 5
Microsoft Reader
Pocket Mechanic
and last but not least my favourite game Virtual Pool Mobile v1.6
This doesnt sound like many apps but it suits my needs perfectly for the moment.
I then took a full backup onto SD........
and viola one ultra stable Orange SPV M2000
i hope it works for you too
I would do what i did when installing apps and install one at a time and test especially task managers and today screens as these use up driver memory, this is where the problem with the WIFI and bluetooth starts
and in case i dont see you good afternoon and good evening and goodnight (watched the trueman show again! :roll: )
Interesting and well detailed,
I then used the extrom unlocker and deleted all the files in the extended rom and then copied my downloaded files into it. the then locked and hid the extended rom again and then performed a hard reset
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Can you elaborate on the above please
fuzzy,
Wonder if you can attach the camera.exe file here? TIA!
Can you elaborate on the above please
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What i mean is i run the extended rom unlocker tools on the device by selecting unhide & unlock and then through activestink browse to the /extended rom folder and then delete the files and then copy the extended rom files from the pc and put in thier place.
i hope that clarifies it for you
and yes i can attch the file for download, but its on my other comp and because of a failed raid array i havent replaced yet it takes 20 mins to boot, so i will do it tommorow
Thanks, fuzzy. Looking forward to that
fuzzy,
Are you able to extract that exe file yet ?
Nvm, fuzzy.
Found the camera.exe HERE.
Hi Fuzzy,
Where did you get the cabs from for:
Voice command 1.5 for Phone edition ->
Photo Contacts Pro v 3.01 ->
Cheers
Yohanson [/quote]
i got Voice command 1.5 with IRC on #pocketwarez on EFNET servers
and as for photo contacts i couldn't get it free so i ended up buying it (first pocketpc software i have bought ever, and to be blunt it was worth it for something that is used every time you recieve a call)
I have also incresed the number of programs by upgrading to latest versions of SPB programs and also added SPB time and SPB weather and i still have no problems with Wifi. it starts first time every time.
I have just bought 5 more of these phones but O2 XDA IIs so i will reflash these the same and then flog on ebay.
every one else who has one of these phones is jelous because it has been reliable as a rock since i did this, and i have still not experieced any problems since the flash, and i have not performed one soft reset because of a problem. i know a lot of you wont believe it but its true it has been rock solid for me. so i will test the same procedure on the five phones when get them and see if there are any differences
Great stuff!
I did something a little similar here.
I took the latest firmware and Extended firmware.
I then went through it and deleted everything I don't need.
Splash Screen, Clearvue stuff, Cingular settings, album, etc etc etc.. Although these would be neat programs... let's be honest... when it comes to the Blue Angel, less is more.
So right now, I'm pretty stable.
I don't put anything in the Protected ROM. I think a lot of apps don't like it.
We'll see how this goes!
Mike
Since I do not want to hard reset - what are the files that I need to remove in order to completely uninstall IA Caller ID ? - it does not show up on my installed apps to remove so I need to do it manually - TIA
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Since I do not want to hard reset - what are the files that I need to remove in order to completely uninstall IA Caller ID ?
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I havent got a clue of all the files that it uses but i imagine if you look in the windows\startup directory you will see a shortcut to start the program delete it and it wont run, but dont hold me to it as i havent got it installed to check what the shortcut is
Right ... I think I'd better "pull the plug" as they say on this ROM.
There are currently too many problems apparent, which can not be directly fixed.
The problems unfortunately run deep.
Known Issues:
Pictures & Videos Fails to Start
IE can lockup (randomly) on Images
Odd ActiveSync Behaviour & non-communications
Phone Settings Page failures
Button Page (strangely?) still present
Backlight Level/Flickering
Duplicate Items (bad decision on my part)
BT Profile not appearing in Startup (Profile Bug actually)
Power Manager Bug
Battery Polling/Timing & Reporting
UPX'd Applications may be causing failures
Eval Calc continually reports "Error"
Repllog fills the event reporting
These problems most likely stem from various sources:
Optimization features to improve speed (Data issues / PIM corruption)
Interaction of AKU2 elements with AKU0 (repllog.exe Errors / ActiveSync)
UPX compressed applications (Random 'odd' behaviour)
Filesystem Respecification (standard Directories instead of PermDirs)
Possible stability issues in vBar (Phone Application Restarting)
GWES subsystem / IE extensions (Images, Pictures & Video Failure)
Application resource allocation failures (Eval Calc Failing, & other failing installs)
I will be addressing these issues over the weekend. There WILL be a new ROM at the end of this time (called v1.5) which will be either one of two possible incarnations:
1). Returning to a prior Alpha Test version which proved VERY stable, but contained a lot less of the AKU2 elements from Himalaya (incl. updated BT for reliability *sigh*)
2). Moving even MORE of the Himalaya AKU2 ROM into the current Beta (and correcting the other issues) so as to have as few as possible AKU0 elements coexisting.
Until that time I STRONGLY recommend that everyone not use this ROM - except for further BETA testing and/or bug reporting and/or suggestions for improvement (which would be VERY appreciated!)
TuMa v1.5 WILL still have the SAME feature-set, and SAME feature-rich look, but this will also be working on ENABLING CABs, instead of being a complete 'out of the box' ROM.
Wherever possible everything will still be entirely contained in the ROM to save as much Storage Space as possible and be feature complete, requiring only shortcuts, or registry entries to enable the full 'power'.
Otherwise, in it's "AU NATURELLE" state, the v1.5 ROM will functionally operate as a 'base only' ROM - which can then be used to build from.
My sincere apologies for the troubles you've encountered so far ... however it has been INVALUABLE with all the feedback, and I will be addressing as many of the issues found as quickly as possible.
I'd gotten so close ... the "race" was almost won ... but, it just 'blew up' in the final 50 meters.
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TuMa v1.4 has been released now for public BETA testing.
As with any BETA, backup your important data ... only time will tell how well everything has been edited/fixed/corrected in this ROM.
NOTE: There could still be some issues with this ROM, in that the performance has been increased to 'appease' those craving it, and also the feature set of the ROM has been updated to encompass everything requested.
There have been FAR too many changes, and FAR too many updates from v1.3 to even begin describing it. The ROM is now composed of 60% Wizard (Core), 20% Himalaya AKU2 (Updates), 10% Blue Angel (Drivers), and features taken from 5% Jasjar, 3% of Atom, 1% Acer, and 1% Custom Hex Edited Modules. 8)
Battery life should be much improved, speed should be about equal to Ivan's, bugs should be squashed.
Known BIG issues:
1). Sim Toolkit doesn't seem to work 100% for me - I get the menus up, but can't access all the data.
2). Bluetooth disconnect is still in this ROM.
3). Pictures & Videos Application is not working (fix being researched).
Otherwise ... let me know if you find anything!
Needless to say it's been a laborious process to get this done. So rather than bore you with words - here are some pictures instead ...
Download from:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Shipped_Extracted_Updates/TuMa 1.4/
Remember ANY and ALL CABs which are in the EXTROM Folder are OPTIONAL to install. If you don't want that feature (MMS, Java Midlets, Camera, Intellipad Languages) ... then don't install it!
Use the SetOperator.bat file to set your operator for the ROM approproately.
NOTE: SX66 Users - use the SetOperatorSX66.bat file, and DO NOT install the Camera CAB.
EDIT MDAIIIUSer 02/05/06
Changed the ftp link
TuMa Boot Logos
Since I love my Blue Angel sooooo much. I've made a few custom Boot Logos for you to use.
Download from:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/BlueAngel/WM5_TuMa/TuMa_Logos.rar
You can obviously also make your own one now ... just replace BootLogo.bmp in the /Windows directory with your own 8-Bit bitmap. Make sure that the file is the same size as the one there - then you know you have the right format. 8)
*** EDIT ***
Since I've had a couple of requests for the original artwork behind these Boot Screens, I've now prepared the PhotoShop Original Artwork file for ALL of these Logos. You can now readily make your own "Blue Angel" Logo, with or without the background, or using a solid colour, or just overlaying the Windows Mobile 5.0 elements overtop. I leave it entirely up to you! It's your BootLogo after all. 8)
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/BlueAngel/WM5_TuMa/TuMa_Blue_Angels.rar
Enjoy!
And last but not least ...
Some Games which can while away the time ...
Download from:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/BlueAngel/WM5_TuMa/TuMa_Games.rar
Fun, fun, fun!
Gr8 work Tuma
Good
Flashing right now...
Will be back later with some news.
Thanks for all the amazing work!!
Nice Release Tuatara!
Going to try it on the weekend
Thanks
Great work Tuatara, thanks will be flashing tonight. And extra thanks for the Xmen Angel logo, that will be my logo from now on. Mutants Rule!
great job!
got this version on my sx66. No major issues.
quick question: is there a way someone can extract the "shutdown" plugin for today. My friend with a sprint 6700 wants it.
AGAIN, Great job ! and I wish I had half the brains you did so I could contribute some coding/hack. At least I will be able to help report any issues in this Beta, to make the release version a better experience for all...
i have instaled to this version, and for now now issues. to report (exept the bt )
thanks for this good work tuatara. :mrgreen:
OK, I've messed around with this new rom for a bit, and I've actually gotta say I prefer Tuma 1.3. The speed increase isn't significant enough to be worth adding more problems I outline below, without actually correcting any of the problems that I disliked in 1.3.
Improvements:
1) Single, fully functional WLAN Manager is nice.
2) I like the category based Program list, but your choice in some instances is well, strange. (ex. Windows Media in Office folder)
New Problems:
1) Phone settings was missing the first page (ring tone/style selection) on my first boot. Seems to be there now though. Odd.
2) Pictures & Videos (Renamed...) does not work at all. Definately a big piss off for me.
3) Internet explorer just locked up my PPC. I used it alot in 1.3, and I never experienced that. I'll see if I can reproduce it.
Dislikes:
1) Renamed Programs. I don't really like that you chose to rename the shortcuts to many Microsoft Programs. Ex: Pictures & Videos to Picture Viewer, File Explorer to Windows Explorer. Since every copy of WM5 has all these programs named the same since they are core programs, I don't think you should be renaming the shortcuts.
2) Some hefty programs. I liked that in Tuma 1.3 there was a nice balance between what was already there, and how much was left up to user discretion. By adding large programs with many alternatives such as Total Commander and vBar, I can't help feel you've crossed the line.
Further updates will come as I keep testing. Thanks for working so hard on this.
Going to flash tomorrow...
Thanks for all the precious work so far Tuatara!
Going to flash tomorrow...
Thanks for all the precious work so far Tuatara!
I am going to test this ROM. I am still wondering whether this one is better than Ivan's. Anyone who has any ideas please let me know, for the reason that I just want to bring my Blue Angel into full play.
good job!!!
flashing it right now
Thanks,I do in now
hmm.. cant get it to ActiveSync
Hiya..
Had major problems getting it to sync
Have reinstalled the Activesync twice now.. It connects (at bloody last! 3 hours and multiple soft resets later!) , goes through the new device blah blah, and then just sits at the Activesync page! Says it is connected, with LOADS of datat flowing between the device and A/S.. bot not synchronizing!
Any ideas?
Nowt has changed since TuMa 1.3 or Ivan... I had both working!
WOW.. damn.. I love this Forum...
Make a post, and low and behold the little fairies jump out of the screen, and waving their wands and throwing fairy dust on my PPC, it does a little beep and starts working!!!
WTF! Problem solved... Ask the fairies what they did if you can catch them!
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OK, I've messed around with this new rom for a bit, and I've actually gotta say I prefer Tuma 1.3. The speed increase isn't significant enough to be worth adding more problems I outline below, without actually correcting any of the problems that I disliked in 1.3.
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Ok ... there were a few problems in v1.3 which are definately fixed in v1.4. The speed should be noticable, but isn't the biggest 'draw-card'. Stability, and integration should be ... but as always ... can't please everyone.
Improvements:
1) Single, fully functional WLAN Manager is nice.
2) I like the category based Program list, but your choice in some instances is well, strange. (ex. Windows Media in Office folder)
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1). That was a bit of work ... required some 'artwork', 'hex-editor' and 'resource hacker' customization to achieve.
2). So, is "Windows Media Player" a "Tool" then? I couldn't decide either. Well ... in the end I wasn't quite sure 'where' to put that one ... you can move them easily y'know. Besides ... it is delibrately put into the main start menu as "Media Player" so you have direct access to it from there, but also have access through the Programs Menu.
New Problems:
1) Phone settings was missing the first page (ring tone/style selection) on my first boot. Seems to be there now though. Odd.
2) Pictures & Videos (Renamed...) does not work at all. Definately a big piss off for me.
3) Internet explorer just locked up my PPC. I used it alot in 1.3, and I never experienced that. I'll see if I can reproduce it.
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1). Hmmm ... can't say I've ever seen that. Works fine on my device - so maybe something subtle is happening in the Radio Layer. Most of the RIL core is now from the Himalaya AKU2.
2). Now that's a BUG which MUST BE FIXED. Damn. It was working perfectly all the previous times I have tested and worked with it. I must have done something registry-wise which is now preventing load on my last build. I will find a fix/patch for this and post it as a CAB.
3). I've been using IE over WiFi for quite a lot of surfing - not one lockup to date - incl. having BT Stereo Wireless Headset playing (albeit a bit stutteringly) in the background. I will test further when I have more time.
So ... I'll add my own one ...
4). BT Wireless Stereo Profile has some (irritating) stuttering, but otherwise works quite reliably. Need to look at performance requirements and/or wave audio driver.
Dislikes:
1) Renamed Programs. I don't really like that you chose to rename the shortcuts to many Microsoft Programs. Ex: Pictures & Videos to Picture Viewer, File Explorer to Windows Explorer. Since every copy of WM5 has all these programs named the same since they are core programs, I don't think you should be renaming the shortcuts.
2) Some hefty programs. I liked that in Tuma 1.3 there was a nice balance between what was already there, and how much was left up to user discretion. By adding large programs with many alternatives such as Total Commander and vBar, I can't help feel you've crossed the line.
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1). Well, you will notice that there are TWO copies of each of the applications you mention. FIRST in the Start Menu (for direct access - named as normal), and a SECOND time in the Programs folder. In order to NOT have naming conflicts for two shortcuts (if moved), they MUST be named differently. This is an unfortunate side-effect of how the Menu Manager works. You could just delete the copy you don't want. That's what Total Commander is for.
2). Again ... both of those apps can be readily 'hidden' if you wish. vBar can be quickly disabled (just turn it off in it's control panel), and similarly the icon for Total Commander can be removed. It costs NOTHING to have them in the ROM - all of your storage space is still 100% free for you to use however you wish, for whatever you wish.
Further updates will come as I keep testing. Thanks for working so hard on this.
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No worries ... as said - the ROM is aimed at an audience to work "out of the box", not necessarily for the "power hacker" who needs to customize every last element.
But having said that - everything is READILY possible to disable in the ROM, either through checkboxes, or simply by removing shortcuts. Nothing is so 'entrenched' as to be necessary, and nothing is so necessary as to not be 'disabled' easily.
Anyways ... as before, this is BETA, and I welcome constructive feedback (and criticisms) such as this! I want to resolve the last few 'annoying' bugs and try to get to a robust and stable (feature-rich) ROM.
So ... speak your thoughts ... good / bad / ugly ... let me know!
great!
@Tuatara
Great job, Im using it for a couple of hours and until now everything is going very good.
I really like the idea of a custom build, with shortcuts names changed, lots of small softwares installed and a well tweaked registry.
I need to sleep a little. I will be using my device tomorrow as usual and will report in the end of the day.
Thanks again for the hard work :!: :!: :!:
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Juggles said:
Make a post, and low and behold the little fairies jump out of the screen, and waving their wands and throwing fairy dust on my PPC, it does a little beep and starts working!!!
WTF! Problem solved... Ask the fairies what they did if you can catch them!
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Hmmm ... this is a bit ODD. There shouldn't be any 'fairies' dancing around in the OS. Maybe a few "Angels" ... but no "Fairies".
Please let me know if you're experiencing any 'odd' behaviour. Such as 'Phone Panels' not appearing, 'Active Sync' not working immediately, 'WiFi' issues, or otherwise. Maybe a 'Gremlin' has snuck into my 'Frankenstein' ROM Monster.
Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?
And which applications do you like?
C_shekar - I think you need some investigation which kind of soft user needs.
So let us post our vision of required soft preinstalled in ROM.
as far as I understand we taking about freeware.
My List:
1. Touch flo (if there are any possibility)
2. Dict
3. Alreader light 2\Hali reader
4. Total Commander Mobile
5. TCMP
6. Pdf - viewer
7. WM5-storage
8. Some sort of timer.
9. ICQ application (qip for example)
10. Gsplayer
11. Rar mobile
1. No RAM disk
2. 24MB Pagepool
3. TouchFlo
I think the ROM should stay clean, so the user can decide what apps he wants to add.
I think one can only add the HTC home tab thingie!
Cheers
divocak
no ram disk ??
man are you mad ?
for what reason you need all amount of RAM ?
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
But I`ve agree to save some extra mem by lowering page poll. (I think 16 mb will be ok )
No, just leave the pagepool at 32 as I think it's neccessary to keep the Rom goes fast. No more software should be added I hope 'cause users can add them in later on. Just all the important fixes and patches. And that's all. Anyone want to personalize the ROM can do that by creating an extendedRom in their SD, is it, so just try to keep the version pure (one of the best exapmle is buzz 3.33). But, the ROMs that personalized before by certain developers are appreciated as well.
obaz said:
divocak
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
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Oh i dont know that - i think that ram-disk is only for storage. thanx for info.
I agree. The upgrade rom should be a clean one so a person can choose exactly what software they require and will use. We must also remember that we all use our PPC for different reasons so there will never be a rom with software we all want or need.
Clean and Clear
Hello!!! Yes I think the WM6 should be clean version, if someone wants to install apps they can do so. The reason to keep the clean version is to make the device run faster.
Although there should be a clean version but also there should be a choice of software (seprately given). If need be people can install them on their Device.
Kind Regards
Jay
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
some softwares are necessary...
because not all of Himalaya users are goood at play the phone,they need it quick and all-in-one.
may be we can cook 2 ROMs,one clean version of WM6 and one with extra applications
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
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Jay
very very clean please
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
Maggy said:
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
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Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
jaytheguru said:
But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
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Personally, I don't think so.
If one wouls want to install some software (common used, for example) he would install it in storage mem. And I could make it into rom instead.
If you don't want to use it - just don't use it
One day we would make a kitchen - and then all could make their own personal rom.
Personally, I can tell you that I'm going to release a clean and speed tweaked rom - once, and then I'm going to start releasing my personalized one.
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
bearshare said:
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
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yes..i agree with you
jaytheguru said:
Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
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I wanted to give insight in how I use my Hima, it is by no means a wish list for a personalised ROM. (although volunteers are welcome to cook one for me ;-)
I hope others will give similar insight in their uses.
When I flashed to WM5 I thought I was using a clean ROM. It did come with Powerpoint and Exell, IMHO a waste of space. It didn't come with a working smartdial and it took me a full day to find a smartdial that works on one of my Hima's but not on another almost identical Hima. IMHO an awful waste of time unless you like to reinvent the wheel.
I've seen discussions in other threads about what they do/do not call a "clean" ROM. IMHO a clean ROM should offer as much basic functionality as possible. I believe Smartdial is one of these basic functions.
But every piece of software that you can find elsewhere, like Powerpoint and Exell should in my opinion be left out of the clean ROM, right?
A kitchen would be a good idea. A kitchen with a clear step by step manual that any noob can follow would be even nicer. Perhaps such kitchens were around before the ftp site closed, I'm only here regularly since a week or two.
I downloaded two files with the word kitchen in its name and unfortunately neither explained to me how to use it.
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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You r absloutly right
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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I can't agree with you any more
most of the time when i go to play songs it gives me the critically low memory and will only let me close the audio manager program. I've got a 6mb page pool. I'm using the tmob wing base RUU which probably eats up a ton of RAM though. So are there any suggestions on how to go about fixing this or freeing up more memory?
I'd like to make an ultra lite release for the wing. But I don't have much time to learn how to cook right now...
Audio manager took up significantly less memory than WMP for me. Do you have the audio manager installed to your device or memory card (I can't remember if it gives you the option)?
Also, how many mp3s (I assume) are you trying to play? Check to see how much memory you have left after you open audio manager. Make sure you have other programs closed as well--meaning they don't show up in the task manager; not just pressing the OK button to minimize the program.
It's installed directly to the device. Also, It happens when I open an album usually, which is like 13 songs. It scans the files by there tags so it's hard to get around it.
Everything in the task manager is closed as well. I believe it's just the low amount of memory available on the Tmob default RUU (even with 6mb page pool). I'm waiting for a lighter weight firmware to come along.
sorry wrong topic..
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It's installed directly to the device. Also, It happens when I open an album usually, which is like 13 songs. It scans the files by there tags so it's hard to get around it.
Everything in the task manager is closed as well. I believe it's just the low amount of memory available on the Tmob default RUU (even with 6mb page pool). I'm waiting for a lighter weight firmware to come along.
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Why not just do the quick pagepool fix. Then you don't have to worry about reinstalling a rom or anything, it's all automated and just adjusts your pagepool size. Takes like 2 seconds, plus reboot.
yeah thats what ive been using. im about to try "TMO Wing Original ROM with TouchFlo added" wish me luck.
I have had the same problem.
I am using the stock tmo wing rom.
are the newer roms worth it. I know they where when I had the mda, but feel like treating the Wing as a much more sacred devise
yeah man the roms people are releasing are way better. i think they all pretty much have htc home built in by default (including audio manager) and they don't give me any memory problems.
i recommend trying out touch~itv2.0, just make sure you have the t-mobile RUU downloaded in case of brick(it happened to me alot until i standardized my rom flashing procedure, and even then it still happens sometimes)
the only thing is that if you wish to try touch~it v2.0 windows media player is set as the default for htc home so to change it to audio manager follow these directions:
1.open up either total commander or phm regedit (they both are included in touchit2)
2. navigate to HKLM/Software/HTC/Music Plug-in and change the music player value from 1 to 2
3. start the audio manager from the programs folder and then exit it
4. soft reset
worked perfectly for me just keep in mind touchit2 has the wing default page pool size of 12mb so you'll want to use quick page pool changer (the one with all the batch files) and set it to like 4mb or 6mb. and overclock too so you get better performance.
once htc home is integrated with audio manager correctly and you have a memory card it's like having a really nice touch screen mp3 player
let me know if this works alright for you!
Thanks I took the plunge today.
Installed Touch it lite. I bricked the phone 2 times, but am up and running. I like it so far, much better.
I feel like a donkey for waiting so long
yeah i had touch it lite for a day. and then i tried to flash to pdaviet .14, but it just kept bricking my phone. so then i tried flashing to touchit lite again but it just kept bricking my phone so i ended up just using the official RUU for a day or so and then flashing touch~it2, which i think is the best so far. you should try it if you have any stability problems with touch~it lite.
It's day 2 so far. Lite is working just right. But will keep the version 2 in mind should I feel the need. Clocked at 260 and ticking right on
yah i had mine at 260 as well but it kept freezing and crashing and rebooting so i lowered down to 247. everything works fine anyways
Hello,
I've been trying to read up on flashing ROMs to my HD. It's all very technical, but I'm slowly picking it up.
It looks like most ROMs suggest doing a Hard Reset. How does one backup the data on the original ROM?
Will I be able to restore all programs previously installed, and some other settings like Windows Messenger saved contacts, and phone contacts?
I just don't understand how some people flash new ROMs every few days -- I assume there must be some good way to backup and restore data?
ALSO, my main reason for flashing a new ROM is to increase the speed of the phone. If I flash to a Windows 6.1 ROM, will the speed incrase be noticable? Will it work as fast as, say, Blackberry OS on a new Curve, or an Android OS on the newer HTCs?
Thanks
to back up pim data (contacts, appointments...) you can sync with MS myphone or use pimbackup.
to run a rom stable, a hard reset is mendatory, or it will behave strangely, because there are still reg values, which do not match the OS and a lot of data will still be present, yet unused.
to regain all your installed programs, you can use the autoinstall features, most roms come with. there are also ways to back up wm settings and program settings, presented on the forum here.
i also flash a lot, i have ORD
and after the OOBE, i let the autoinstall run through, set up all the system settings and then regain my pim data back from ms myphone. when you do it a lot, it takes about 1 hour after the flashing, till the system and all my 10-15 apps are up and running.
I would suggest that you flash a new ROM only if you are really aware of all technical aspects of your current ROM. That you don't seem to know about ActiveSync and MS Phone indicates you still need a lot to learn.