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Bluetooth problems from a newbie

I have recently "upgraded" from xdaII to xdaIIs and I'm having a few problems. I have upgraded the BT stack to 3500 but I still can seem to connect to my tomtom gps. Device sees it but tomtom 3 cant. I'm completely confused by the connection wizard- none of the profiles seems to fit gps. I also dont seem to be able to send or receive files from my old xdaII. What am I doing wrong?
I'm also a little confused about roms. Do I need to upgrade my rom? Is there a simple way avoiding anything too technical (I've read about "country codes" and other wierd stuff). My current config is:
ROM: 1.12.62
Radio: 1.02.00
Protocol: 1337.32
ExtROM: 1.12.178
Could someone please help! I only have a few days to decide if I want to keep it or stick with my xdaII...

Gps's use the serial profile to transmit the data over - its like a virtual serial connection - so you need to tell tomtom to look on a com port AFAIK,.
For eample in my Tomtom list of connections there is one called 'BT on Com6, ' which is the bluetooth comport on my unit.
But there are also listed more com ports...
Com5
Com4
Bluetooth Serial port Com7
The XDA only actually has 1 com port (com1) so any other are virtual ports created by various software, you just need to find out which one is the one for the GPS...

So in "tomtom gps v3.07" I go to the gps tab and by default its set to infrared port. I change to "BT on com6" and click OK. When I restart the program it always resets to "infrared port" even if I try a different port. Really am stuck- never had any problems with my xdaII- just put in BT port and it picked it up automatically...

The problem is it's not always the same com port for different devices - firstly does your unit have the widcoom stack version of are you on the microsoft stack..
Whichever you have you need to find where the BT com port is configured..
On my widcomm i go to 'bluetooth setting' ; 'services' ; "serial port'; 'advanced'
in there it says...
inbound com port : 6
outbound com port : 7
so the incoming com port on my bluetooth is 6 hence the 'BT com port on 6' listed in my tomtom gps.
so you need to find your BLuetooth com port and find out which com port number it is set to. Not sure as to why tomtom gps does not save your settings, the only thing I can think of is becuase it never gets a valid signal from the comport select, and does not save the change unless it does.
Also: I assume the gps unti has a pairing with your XDA unit?

So does the widcom stack work on the xdaIIs? If so where can get it?

Sorry: I cannot be certiain the widcomm works with the IIs, but is can be downloaded from this site if you are willling to try, just do a search oin widcoom, and you will find a lot of entries...
For the MS BT stack; look under start, settings,System tab. There is a icon labeleld Bluetooth settings in there you can see/set the com ports for the bluetooth link. they also need to be enabled witch a check box before they will work...

So on "bluetooth seetings" serial port/advanced I have inbound COM port 5 and Outbound COM port 6. Below it says "Default device for outgoing serial connections: TomTom Wireless GPS. Display the device selection screen the next time an outgoing serial connection is attempted" next to a ticked box. I have tried bt com 5 and 6 in the gps settings and it wont save or recognise either. I can, however, pair and connect to the device in my BT manager but Tomtom doesnt recognise it...

Hmmm - all sound ok to me but I currently use a wired GPS, so I have not actually done it. I'm afraid I'm as stuk as you are now...

Sorry bro- I have sorted this now. Thanks...

For me, I just selected Comm 5 from the GPS status drop down and it works like magic!

GPS connection to BT-338 via com6

Hi all
Just upgraded to Helmi_WM2k5_AKU3.2_32mb_v1.3.2_16mb_bitpool_32mbRamdisk
My new config is now
P H 2 0 B W W E 5.0 4.0 6. 1.3 1.15.00 4
I have got the Phone, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth all working and can see my GlobalSat BT-388 and its Serial interface. But when I try and make a new outgoing or incoming port on com6, I get and error: "The COM port could not be created. Please check settings and try again" - COM7 an 8 work but cant get tomtom to see those ones.
I have soft reset the device and still no luck - Anyone know what I may try to fix as I am trying to pair for tomtom 5.21.
BTW - Hemi fantastic - keep up the good work.

Hi,
have the same problem here, TomTom 5.21 on Helmi AKU26. Bluetooth COM-Port doesnt show up, also some other applications that enumerate the COM Ports dont show it either.
My workaround is to use the GPS Multiplexer from OS (Settings->Connections->GPS). In AKU26 i set up Bluetooth to COM7, set Microsoft GPS to look at that Port with 33600 and set COM5 as new Multiplexer Output Port. Device 10 Seconds of, Softreset and than detected at least TomTom that COM5 and worked.

Thanks MCSchermer....
found the GPS config under the connections section. WM2003SE never had this. Changed the GPS program port to another COM port and then was able to changed the hardware port to com6.
TOMTOM now up and running.
Excellent... now able to drive across town again.
Thanks mate

Bluetooth Sync- Please help

Hi all:
After hours of searching and trying, and failing, I have given in, and decided to go ahead and ask. Please be gentle, I know how much everyone hates when people ask already answered questions, but I have honestly spent hours trying to solve this problem.
I am unable to get bluetooth sync to work (Windows XP).
I kept getting too high a COM port number, and was not able to select it on ppc.
After many searches both here and Google, I was finally able to get a COM port which was low enough for my Tilt to recognize (COM port 9). I Added new device to Tilt, and FINALLY I had ActiveSync as an option.
It indicated I should select COM port 9 to sync. I have also gone into my bluetooth place on PC, and verified that it shows COM 9 as My Serial Port. I have also checked, and my PC does show up on ppc bluetooth devices. I have double checked that ppc is discoverable. I also added 9 under COM ports on phone.
However, ActiveSync on PC does not list COM port 9 as an option.
Also, when I try to add Tilt to My bluetooth places (on PC), it tells me no available COM ports on ppc.
If I go to Activesync on phone, and click connect via bluetooth, it says opening port, then connecting to host, and a pop-up on pc states that ppc is connected to blueooth serial port on PC (COM 9). After this, all activity stops, and active sync does not ever connect.
Please help me
Thanks!

You don't need to set a COM port on the PPC itself. Delete it as well as the pairing with your PC.
On the PC, check the Serial Port service is enabled in the BT settings. I'd then make sure the COM port number is between 1-8. Now where this is done depends on the BT software stack you have on the PC, it can be in the BT settings, or you might have to go in the device manager, COM ports, find the Bluetooth COM port and change its number here in the advanced properties.
Open Activesync connection settings, check the COM port tick and select the port in the dropdown. If you can't see the port here and select it it won't work, so theres no chance your current setup will work.
Then on the phone add new device, select the PC, type same passwords on both sides to create the pairing. In the next service window you should have Activesync, tick it, finish. This should now work, at least I've always done that way for years now with different PCs and PPCs. Activesync is crap though, and on some configurations I needed to kill the activesync process and relaunch it everytime before connecting or it wouldn't work, or open the connection settings, remove the COM port tick and dismiss, then open again and put it back.
Also, when you connect on the PPC, some PC bluetooth stacks will ask you everytime if you want to allow the connection, but the prompt doesn't appear unless you go manually click in the BT tray icon. That was on my last PC.
There are often small issues but I always got it to work somehow

Hi:
Thanks so much for your reply.
I deleted the COM port on phone, as you instructed.I also deleted pairing.
I wasn't able to set COM port to a lower number than 9. There was no advanced properties for the COM ports in device manager. I even enabled show hidden devices, and show non present devices. Still nothing. I have no idea what is trying up the lower numbered COM ports.
Somewhere along the line, ActiveSync started showing COM port 9 as an option. After selecting it, it now works perfectly.
I am however mad, and frustrated as I don't know which of the MANY steps I took fixed it. I wish I did, so I could post it here, and hopefully help someone else who is about to pull their hair out trying to get their Kaiser to sync via bluetooth. Not to mention if I ever have to set it up again for myself, I have no clue what got it working
Thanks again for your help!!

In the future:
Turn on bluetooth on phone/PC
Right click 'My Computer'/Manage/Device Manager
Check what COM Port your Bluetooth on PC is using
Start Active Sync/File/Connections/Allow Connections from the following (select COM here)
Hit OK then Sync.

Hi Nufsaid:
Thanks for the steps, but believe me, I had tried that dozens of times. My problem wasn't with setting up pairing or anything like that. All the COM ports assigned to bluetooth were way too high for ppc to recognize. Eventually after much effort I got the serial COM port down to COM port 9 (which the phone now was able to use, before it had been 16, 17, 18). Active Sync refused to recognize that COM port. Anyway (as I mentioned in my previous post), after hours of trying, COM port 9 magically showed up as an option in Active Sync. Sadly I am not sure which of the many steps I took fixed the issue.
Thanks anyway.

cincy1020 said:
Sadly I am not sure which of the many steps I took fixed the issue.
Thanks anyway.
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Don't worry, the first time I tried to sync a PPC via BT I had the exact same kind of problem and never found out how I got it to work. But since then the steps above have worked well

kilrah said:
Don't worry, the first time I tried to sync a PPC via BT I had the exact same kind of problem and never found out how I got it to work. But since then the steps above have worked well
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LOL
That is funny, but great to hear!
Thanks!

Okay, this is really becoming RIDICULOUS!
I had it syncing perfectly last night. All I did, was go to bed. Turned off bluetooth on phone, and turned off PC.
Today when I went to sync again, COM port 9 is no longer listed in ActiveSync.
And of course, it will not sync. I have tried everything to get COM post 9 to show up again, and it will not. My bluetooth serial post is still listed as COM port 9, and when I establish a connection, it connects, It just won't connect to ActiveSync. I tried deleting the pairing, and re-pairing, but now ActiveSync is not longer listed as an option on phone after pairing.
Any ideas, or suggestions would REALLY be appreciated. And believe me, I have searched, and searched, and then searched some more, I just can't fix this.
Thanks!

Install another Bluetooth stack (one that works ) on your PC? Widcomm for example

kilrah said:
Install another Bluetooth stack (one that works ) on your PC? Widcomm for example
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Hi:
Thanks for your reply.
I actually am already using Widcomm. Is it possible Widcomm is not working well with my PC? Should I try another? Any suggestions.
Again, thanks for your help. While I am not new to PCs or PPCs, I am VERY new to bluetooth and all that jazz, lol.
Thanks
EDIT:
Actually, I should have said I have the Widcomm stack installed. I am not however sure how to verify that it is being used.

i once read that it works with BlueSoliel, not Widcomm. Try that. BlueSoliel worked for me, but not Widcomm.

I'm using Widcomm (actually the one that is bundled with my Logitech MX5000 desktop bluetooth keyboard/mouse) and it works perfectly fine. On my laptop I have a Toshiba stack and it works well too. Maybe you have an old version that is bogus? I have had trouble to get the widcomm stack to work at the beginning, Windows default crappy stack would always take the BT hardware over preventing the Widcomm stack from using it.

AthenaLod said:
i once read that it works with BlueSoliel, not Widcomm. Try that. BlueSoliel worked for me, but not Widcomm.
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Just got a new mini dongle I'm trying to use BlueSoliel, but am having trouble, I can push to my phone, listen to music via stereo bluetooth, but can't serial. BlueSoliel gives an option in tools/configuration/quick connect to assign com ports, but the ones shown won't show on my phone as an outgoing/incoming port...have you figured this out? All I want to do is Activesync via Bluetooth.

You don't need any port to appear on the phone for sync. What matters is the COM port number on the PC. You need to know it, set activesync to use it, then do a pairing preferably from the phone, and select on the phone to use the PC's "ActiveSync" service that should appear in the list if the PC configuration is OK.
Basically there's nothing to configure on the phone. If something's wrong it's 95% chance that it's on the PC.

tom tom not geting gps signal in c_shekhar

i have tom tom 6.000 and gps driver v1.20 but its show GPS signal not found or no gps signal in my spv 1000 can any one help me how it will work in c_shekhar"s Rom

tomtom
Hello you must make a com 5 for it to work and then go to tomtom and give it in by the gps settings.

hello
can you explain me more please ?how to do it ?

This is from the wiki, so in future, have a look at it first. I say this because your problem could have been solved much earlier had you read it. It will save you time. If you can't find answers there though, then please do come and ask us.
Tom Tom 6/Garmin/GPS Software seems to restart my Himalaya when looking for my external bluetooth connection?
Pair your bluetooth GPS device with your Himalaya first. After this, make sure to choose the advanced option which will give you the choice of choosing the serial connection and then which port you want to use. I always choose Com 5 as this seems to work fastest, most stable etc. After this, you then leave bluetooth on and in discoverable mode. After this, load up your software. The correct com port should then appear in the list of possible com ports for you to choose from (Com 5). After that, all should be well with the world. The reset seems to be caused when your Himalaya looks for an external bluetooth GPS device on the incorrect com port.

Serial Port Profile for GPS2Blue

Hi,
I'm trying to get GPS2Blue to work and managed to get a connection between my Kaiser and my desktop (with a dongle using the Toshiba Bluetooth stack) by creating an outgoing port on the Kaiser (start-settings-connections-bluetooth-com ports-new outgoing port-DESKTOP-next).
I am successfully paired with a Lenovo T61 using the internal bluetooth with a broadcom stack (Vista Bunsiness x64), but while the Desktop advertises 'Serial Port' and 'ActiveSync' as bluetooth services, the T61 stack only advertises 'ActiveSync' 'Wireless Stereo' and 'Headset'. As a result, I can't add an outgoing port to the laptop and GPS2Blue doesn't work.
Does anyone know how to tell the broadcom stack to tell the kaiser that it has SPP (Serial Port Profile) available for it? Using GPS2Blue over TCP/IP is not an option because the virtual com port driver currently doesn't support Vista x64.
This has been bugging me for a loooong time, I'd really appreciate any help with this. Thanks!
Lncdoc

OK, 2 things.
Firstly, GPS2Blue doesn't need an Outgoing port on the Kaiser, but an Incoming one. Then, you discover services on the phone, from the PC, and you'll have a serial port you should connect to. Not the other way around like you were saying. Now, WM6/6.1 don't let the user set an incoming port from the BT configuration page anymore, so a manual registry edit is necessary. Attached is a .reg file that will set an incoming port on COM6.
Apply this, soft reset. Then run GPS2Blue, set it to use COM6, discover services from the PC, connect to the serial port, and connect to whatever serial port the stack maps it on the PC with your GPS program.
Secondly (but now unrelated!), if from the phone you'd like to see a serial port on the PC, there are 2 solutions. Firstly look for an "add new seral port" option in your BT stack on the PC, some support multiple ones.
If there's none, you should open activesync connection page, disable serial connection. On the Phone the Arcivesync entry will now revert to serial port. To have AS again, reenable the COM port connection in AS.

Thanks a lot! That worked like a charm. After Vista with the Broadcom stack forced the use of COM9, I changed it manually to COM5 in the device manager (For reference of other people wanting to do this: Device Manager / Ports (COM & LPT) / Standard Serial over Bluetooth link (COMn) / Right Click / Properties / Port Settings / Advanced / COM Port Number), since some software (like MeHere) only supports up to COM8.
Now everything works like a charm on my laptop.
Note that this weirdly enough also works with an Outgoing port on the Kaiser if you have a stack (on your PC) which broadcasts the availability of an incoming serial port (in which case the Kaiser initiates the connection, not the PC, and the COM Port sends regardless of whether something is connected or not...). Not that I'm recommending this route to anyone, but I got this working on the Toshiba stack.
Anyway, thanks a lot again, it's finally working perfectly with OziExplorer, MeHere, Google Earth.... you name it.
Lncdoc

Arrrrgggg! I am so close. The incoming BT port bit helped me to get connected but, although GPS2Blue is gettting a lock, and I appear to be connected to EarthBridge/PC, the GPS data doesn't appear to be transmitted to Earthbridge/PC. Google Earth keeps putting me off the coast of Africa instead of south Florida.
I'm about ready to go pickup a copy of Streets & Trips with GPS.

GPS2Blue 1.9
I allready got .reg file on my computer.
The only thing i don't understand is how to get the incomming port on my laptop....
Greetz
Peter

Loaded the appropriate reg values...nothing. Still doesn't work. I can't see the port on the PC or Handheld under "Bluetooth Services".

Thanks kilrah
Your solutions works great for me and i have tested this with my i900 and two different notebooks running Windows 7 and Windows XP
Works in both notebooks
I was using Garmin Mobile PC Version 5
Thanks again for your great help

thx kilrah
'elpetah1984' you must import registry value to PDA windows not PC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8429209#post8429209

F I N A L L Y !!!!!!!
I've finally managed to do it!!! Oh man.. what a fight! almost 4 am and trying since days.. eheheh it is really rewarding! Will be doing a tutorial to avoid hours and hours of frustation to anyone trying this!

iRiKi said:
F I N A L L Y !!!!!!!
I've finally managed to do it!!! Oh man.. what a fight! almost 4 am and trying since days.. eheheh it is really rewarding! Will be doing a tutorial to avoid hours and hours of frustation to anyone trying this!
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That'd be great!
Did you get it to work with many apps? I remember one time I managed to get it set (don't know how, can't reproduce my semi-success) so I could share the ActiveSync port and in Windows I could open the COM port on PuTTY to see the NEMA output but only a couple apps recognized that there was a GPS there -- the main thing I wanted to work (inSSIDer) couldn't see any GPS.
I'd definately be interested if you came up with a reliable way to make it work.

mmiller7 said:
-- the main thing I wanted to work (inSSIDer) couldn't see any GPS.
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I saw your post @ metageek forums, because I too am unable to make it work with either version of inSSIDer, although Netstumbler saw it nice and easy. Thing is: I have Vista, and Netstumbler doesn't like Vista like me
I'm gonna get a XP lappy tomorrow which battery only works for half an hour but hey, it's a start

iRiKi said:
I saw your post @ metageek forums, because I too am unable to make it work with either version of inSSIDer, although Netstumbler saw it nice and easy. Thing is: I have Vista, and Netstumbler doesn't like Vista like me
I'm gonna get a XP lappy tomorrow which battery only works for half an hour but hey, it's a start
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Good luck, XP is out of the question for me because HP doesn't provide Bluetooth drivers back to before Vista. Maybe I can find a way to forward the COM port and a USB WiFi adapter through VirtualBox and use XP that way...though I've been unsuccessful with either of those so far.

Actually you can forward the USB device to Oracle's Virtualbox, I have my TP-Lnk USB WiFi forwarding into a linux virtual machine working perfectly in monitor mode with kismet and aircrack I don't think you can forward COM ports tho, but if you have an external USB bluetooth adapter you can also forward it into XP!! Will try that asap!
Thing is, I wanted to use the onboard wireless because it's way more sensitive than the external USB adapter, but it's not possible to forward it inside a virtualbox.
Ahhh computer issues.. always bugging me since 1993 XD

iRiKi said:
Actually you can forward the USB device to Oracle's Virtualbox, I have my TP-Lnk USB WiFi forwarding into a linux virtual machine working perfectly in monitor mode with kismet and aircrack
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I got bad news and good news.
Bad news:
The USB forwarding of my wireless card works under Linux but FAILS under a XP VM!!! %$#*@#!"#
Good news:
Downloaded Franson GpsGate trial and now inSSIDer is working !!!!