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Hi Guys,
Recent got an XDA IIi after being with the older XDA II for over 16 Months.
But I have recently run into problems with my BT Car kit :
Motorola Bluetooth Car Kit HFW-8000.
Basically the problem is that it does not always connect to the Car Kit and when it does it will only from time to time connect and let me have a handfree conversation.
I have also used the Broadcom Bluetooth Cab file here in order to extend what Bluetooth Profiles that can be used but seems not to have any great bearing to stablize the issue.
So I went down the Hard Reset Road but again still intermittent issues, I then upgraded the ROM to the New one on the O2 Website the v 1.11.169 ROM.
I also had similar issues with the XDA II but it was resolved by using the Pocket Bluetooth tools, which was great and never once after installing it did I have any issues with the Car Kit.
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/
One of my questions is, is there a similar programme to to above Pocket Bluetooth tools for the XDA IIi as I have tried it with the XDA IIi but does not work.
Or does anyone know how you would revert to have the XDA II radio or is there a work around for it.
Thanks Guys
Woody
Hi Woody_XDA,
I have had my XDA2i for a couple of months now and recently got a O2 blue headset for it, I had simular problems with the headset disconnecting and having to manually connect every time I switched it on. After browsing this wonderfull forum I decided to do a corperate install and get rid of the O2 active interface, since then no problems at all. I now use Pugs modified ROM version 162 with radio 1.04 and have no stability problems at all with no twice weekly reset. Hope this helps you and many thanks to Pug for his ROM.
Mace
Ditto, I also use the custom firmware with 1.04 radio and bluetooth works a charm. It still eats battery like nothing else, but it works with no problems. Also like the fact that the XDA can cope with my GPS receiver and my handsfree kit simultaneously, that's handy for in the car.
Cheers Guys for the information, took it on board and works great, did a great deal of stress testing in order to confirm it and works excellent..Thanks to PUG again and guys thanks for the info much appreciated and this is by far a great forum
Mace - you mention some bluetooth issues being resolved since you applied the custom ROM... I posted in the Alpine Applications forum here the other day a list of issues with bluetooth that I was wondering had been addressed - so far no reply - are these the symptoms that were cured for you??
Hi Bewlay Brother sorry, I missed your other post on Bluetooth issues, my original problem was that every time I switched on my BT headset , which is a O2 Blue, I had to open the BT manager and make the connection, the phone would then occasionally lose the connection and sometimes whilst still showing a connection refuse to transfer the call. This was using the official 162 ROM with the O2 active UI. I have since installed Pugs 162 ROM with radio1.04 and done a corporate install and BT seems to work perfectly, switch on the headset, it connects, never loses pairing and transfers calls.
Hope this helps you, and thanks again to Pug,
Mace.
Mace - what you describe sounds similar - my problems were essentially the loss of pairing with my Motorola headset a lot of the times when the XDAIIi switched off its display and went into stand-by mode, also if I closed the boom bike on the headset (to temporarily turn off the headset) it would fail to re-pair when I next opened the boom mike... the other issue was that I had to make sure the phone keyboard was displayed on the XDA once I had paired up otherwise the last number redial function on the headset would not work - if I pressed the dial button on headset and the phone display was not on the screen it would simply open the phone display function but fail to then dial the number - really crap. Also reception was poor to headset even over relatively short distances from the XDA. IF these areas in particular could be cured by the upgrade then I am eager to do it - I must admit I have read that this upgrade has not been without problems for some people here so it is going to be a tough call.
Just a thought, but have you done a personal or corporate install as I think the main fix with Pugs ROM was the upgrade to radio 1.04, which I don’t think affects the BT, so a corporate install with your existing ROM may make a difference.
Did a corporate install when it was new out of the box...
whats the difference between the corporate and personal install?
Corporate doesn't install ANY of the branded O2 interface - so no gubbins, nothing to slow down the phone, you just get a bog standard Windows Mobile 2003 SE installation, aside from the O2 GPRS and SMS settings. Bosh.
hi
i've been reading the posts and i have the same problem where can i get hold of pug's ROM if it's possible cos this seems to get rid of the problem
And then today, headset will not automatically connect, needing Bluetooth manager to be opened to make the connection. AARRRGH!
BT car kit problems
I have the 1.04 Radio, but it still won't sync with my 2003 BMW 325xi bluetooh or with my 2005 Acura MDX bluetooth.
Help!
Unstable Bluetooth Signal Strength - Samsung WEP200 Bluetooth Headset
Hi, I just got a Samsung WEP200 Bluetooth Headset. It would pair with my O2 XDAIIi but I cannot hear any voice in both incoming and outgoing calls. When I check the BT Manager, it shows a totally unstable BT strength that varies from very strong to very weak. The same headset worked well with other BT phones. My ROM version is 1.11.00 WWE, Radio version 1.04.00.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ok ive got an xda2i and mini s.
I have tomtom on the 2i (not changed it over to the mini s cos i like the larger screen) I want to get a stereo head set for use on the motorbike so i can listen to music, also want to be able to listen to tom tom comands. When a call comes in take the call as i pull over. (saves takin off the helmet).
Does the xda2i support A2DA?? its standard UK spec with only the O2 upgrades from them.
Now using the jabra 205 headset i have at the mo, i know i can play music (poor quality) and have tomtom run at the same time. Thing is when a call comes in the music and tomtom mute and the call comes through (which is good) but when the call ends the music and tomtom revert to the xda2i. i have to press the button on the headset to switch back.
Is there also a good voice dial for the xda2i.
So if the xda2i does support a2da will it do what i want?? I know that if it will ill have to strip the system and fit it to the helmet (doesnt bother me if it will work as im an electronics engineer)
You can download the audio bluetooth from Broadcom via google (Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV is the download you may want to check out).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281310
Can A2DP
XDA 21 support A2DP
gone to that link... thanks. ive dloaded the file but have no idea what to do with it. im serious i have no idea at all. i need complete idiot guide for it.. post in the other location or here, i dont mind
many thanks
cool i got the file installed and have nice clear sound, it switches between a call and wmp BUT if i run tomtom5 the music starts to drop out.. big gaps and the same happens with the tomtom comands. this happens to tomtom even if i dont have wmp running.
getting fed up with this stuff now. at least with the wired headphones it all works....
Did you install any battery monitoring software...
the xda is from a hard reset, tomtom 5.2 installed, then the A2DP cab. thats it.. not even put on my contacts or anything. totaly clean. then added the BT-Q800 GPS and its little test program which only when run is used to find which com port the gps is running on. used the setting from that to set tomtom correctly.
TT tested with the gps fine.
then added the headset. tested fine.
BUT when i try to have both the GPS and headset working thats when it gives up. i have a feeling its going to be something to do with the bandwidth on bluetooth.
The audio starts to chop up as the GPS is connected. Ive not tried it with the wired gps though
What your Roms and Ext, version
Hello,
Just upgraded to WM6 using the official Palm upgrade (TREO750-2.23-RWE).
The Treo is unbranded and came with WM5, also an RWE ROM.
The most important issue I currently have is terrible bluetooth interaction with my car-kit. Pairing is OK, I can start or receive a call, but there is no sound. Before, with WM5 I had no issues.
Setup:
- Treo 750
- WM6 (TREO750-2.23-RWE)
- Pegeuot RD4 radio with integrated bluetooth
Any solution? Or should I downgrade to WM5? If so, how should I downgrade?
Your help is most welcome!
David
Odd... With both the Treo 750 running WM5, I had the same problem. Basically, the first 30-60 seconds of a call wouldn't sound on either the handset, or the speakers over the bluetooth connection. This was always for the first call after getting in the car. To get around it, I would get in, start up the car, and call my voicemail. Once I could hear the call on the speakers, usually 30 seconds later, I would hang up. I could then make and receive calls normally.
After upgrading to WM6, incoming calls would occasionally be very low volume. I would have to hang up and call the person back. This also happens with WM6 on my AT&T Tilt.
No fix for that one....
daupers said:
Hello,
Just upgraded to WM6 using the official Palm upgrade (TREO750-2.23-RWE).
The Treo is unbranded and came with WM5, also an RWE ROM.
The most important issue I currently have is terrible bluetooth interaction with my car-kit. Pairing is OK, I can start or receive a call, but there is no sound. Before, with WM5 I had no issues.
Setup:
- Treo 750
- WM6 (TREO750-2.23-RWE)
- Pegeuot RD4 radio with integrated bluetooth
Any solution? Or should I downgrade to WM5? If so, how should I downgrade?
Your help is most welcome!
David
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daupers,
Just curious that this might be related. Can you post what radio version you ended up with after the upgrade to WM6?
Dropped the issue at Palm
Yesterday I sent an email to drop the issue at Palm, since I used the official upgrade on an official pristine Treo. I still have to receive an answer.
I'm wondering if I ever will receive an answer that will resolve my issue.
Did anybody else on this forum ever get help from Palm?
David
Im heaving simmilar problems with Treo 750 WM5 and Toyota original BT-HF. Repatedly the connection is established, but then lost (without warning) - and then you get no sound (or an odd "interferrence " sound). I switch the BT off, then on, connect it again and it (usually) works fine. I assume it has smthng to do with the BT firmware. No other solution so far.
Where can I find a download for the original RWE WM5 ROM?
Can anybody provide me with a link to an WM5 RWE ROM for the Treo 750 (Cheetah)?
Thanks
I did some searching and so far I discovered the following.
WM 5 supports bluetooth 1.2.
WM 6 supports bluetooth 2.0, which should be backwards compatible with 1.2.
The carkit supports 1.2, but I'm not sure if it supports 2.0.
It looks like a compatibility issue, caused by the upgrade.
Could this be the source of the problem?
D
The hardware in the 750 supports 1.2 only, WM6 is backwards compatible with 1.2. Any device that supports 2.0 will be backwards compatible with 1.2. I just upgraded to the AT&T official WM6 build and am still having the same problems as always with my Moto HF850, no voice command, only get one working connection before the bond fails and I get no audio. *sigh*
I have the same problems Treo 750V 2.18-VFE with WM6.
Car: Citroen C4 with integrated bluetooth radio.
My car connects fine to the Treo, however when I make a call or answer a call 9 out of 10 times I have no sound. Currently I have to use the wired headset.... While I have no sound the connection is intact and I cannot use the Treo itself without cancel bluotooth from the menu.
I can read the indexes of the phone, make calls by using car functionality but no sound. Also when I have sound most of the time it's after ten seconds.
Since yesterday I also have no ringer sound anymore. Palm Support gave me an update but it's not for my ROM version.
I'm affraid I have to ask Palm to swap the phone again. Currently this is number 3:-( within a few months
BT working after WM6 upgrade
Hi everybody, surprisingly, after upgrade to WM6, my BT connection with toyota original handsfree started to work, I haven´t had a single "lost connection" since. Why is that I don´t know... Just to let U know - More lucky than the others...
I Received my fourth Treo last week. I now have ringer sound again (for now).
However I still have the sound problems with using my carkit.
My car connects fine to the Treo, however when I make a call or answer a call 9 out of 10 times I have no sound.
I get the same problem with an Orange SPV M3100 (HTC TYTN) and by factory fitted bluetooth kit in my Citroen C4... It's fine using the latest Orange WM5 ROM, but upgrading to WM6 stops the car kit from working, (connects, but no sound). I asked my Citroen dealer and they advised it was a known issue with 'high end phones like Nokia running Symbian, etc'. They had no idea about when a fix might be available.
Delayed or Missing Sound
Install the sound fix. That's what is there for.
What sound fix? Can you post a link, or let me know where it is?
Support also advised me to install the sound fix.
However it only work for lower rom versions.
When you install WM6 You will have a higher rom version.
The sound fix should allready be in WM6.
I think I'll try to contact Citroen about this...
Hi,
Just got a MDA Vario III and paired it with my built in bluetooth car kit in a Citroen. Pairs with no problems. My problem is when I receive/make phone calls. As soon as I answer, the built in car bluetooth system says "Silence". I can only hear the call once I click on the phone "turn hands free off" then click "turn hands free on". So for whatever reason it doesn't appear to pick up the hands free as a default. I have tried other bluetooth phones in the car with no problems. Rang t-mobile, then HTC, neither could help. HTC told me they only recommend certain bluetooth car kits which wasn't helpful.
Anybody else experienced similar probs. If so how did you fix it. Or is there a way to make one of the buttons on the phone toggle hands free on/off as this would be easier than trying to tap the touchscreen whilst driving.
For your info have hard reset the phone, also tried some hotfix found on the web for bluetooth probs on this model. No joy either time.
Thanks for any help.
srj321
Hi,
When my phone is connected to my car kit (Opel/Vauxhaul UHP) bluetooth sometimes stops randomly. I can turn bluetooth on again with the commmanager and everything is working again. But it can hapen again after a few minutes.
Does anyone have this problem to or even better a solution?
I allready tried all the different Radio Roms, but this didn't solve my problem.
Well with mine i have some hickus but it just happpends once a while.
Most irritating about Diamond and BT in my opinion is that wa have no equalizing for it. and the sound setup from the begining is horrible.
Asked here if anyone has a solution before but none replied.
But as far 2 your problem no. And i use a Pioneer system in my car.
Mauser.NET said:
Hi,
When my phone is connected to my car kit (Opel/Vauxhaul UHP) bluetooth sometimes stops randomly. I can turn bluetooth on again with the commmanager and everything is working again. But it can hapen again after a few minutes.
Does anyone have this problem to or even better a solution?
I allready tried all the different Radio Roms, but this didn't solve my problem.
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HI
Same was happend with me (Opel), when my battery is low.
orsiga said:
HI
Same was happend with me (Opel), when my battery is low.
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Mine is not low on battery, but I shall try it once connected to the cigarette lighter.
Nobody else has this kind of problems??
Mauser.NET said:
Mine is not low on battery, but I shall try it once connected to the cigarette lighter.
Nobody else has this kind of problems??
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I've a JVC head and my bluetooth has no problem.
I have a Honda Accord with handsfree built in and I too am having problems. The phone and car both agree that a connection has been made but when i use it to either ring out or receive a call the radio mutes and when receiving the ringing tone sounds over the car speakers but I can`t hear the caller except on the phone which isn`t very useful. Would a ROM or radio upgrade help or is it just a compatibility problem
davemazo said:
I have a Honda Accord with handsfree built in and I too am having problems. The phone and car both agree that a connection has been made but when i use it to either ring out or receive a call the radio mutes and when receiving the ringing tone sounds over the car speakers but I can`t hear the caller except on the phone which isn`t very useful. Would a ROM or radio upgrade help or is it just a compatibility problem
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I had this kind of problems also. Also syncing the phonebook gave me problems. You could try JETware, this solved almost all my problems, except now the bluetooth crashes
Mauser.NET said:
I had this kind of problems also. Also syncing the phonebook gave me problems. You could try JETware, this solved almost all my problems, except now the bluetooth crashes
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Thanks Mauser. I tried Jetware as you suggest and I`m afraid it didn`t help in fact I think it crashed the handsfree system in the car like you. This is the final nail in the coffin for my Diamond. I just can`t get used to it so it`s off to Ebay with it.
davemazo said:
Thanks Mauser. I tried Jetware as you suggest and I`m afraid it didn`t help in fact I think it crashed the handsfree system in the car like you. This is the final nail in the coffin for my Diamond. I just can`t get used to it so it`s off to Ebay with it.
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I'm sorry to hear that
I am very pleased with my Diamond... I would sooner put my car on eBay than my Diamond
Did you try to check almost everything on in the advanced settings of Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug and on the site of Jetware there wat a fix for Opel car kits.
Keeping my fingers crossed, but until now I haven't experienced any bluetooth crashes.
Mauser.NET said:
I'm sorry to hear that
I am very pleased with my Diamond... I would sooner put my car on eBay than my Diamond
Did you try to check almost everything on in the advanced settings of Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug and on the site of Jetware there wat a fix for Opel car kits.
Keeping my fingers crossed, but until now I haven't experienced any bluetooth crashes.
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Thanks again Mauser. I tried various settings but without any success, I think the phone is just not compatible with the Honda. Having said that I don`t have much luck with bluetooth at all on the phone. More often than not It just won`t detect other bluetooth devices and when it does it won`t send or receive files so it`s time for it to go and I can go back to a trusty Nokia
Problems here with BT connection to car kit, too. I'm using the built-in car-kit of an Audi A4 (standard one not that with navigation, remote SIM, etc). I've noticed the following issues:
- when I try to make a call, the CD is cut off but NOTHING is heard in the car speakers UNTIL the other party answers the call (and then I start the conversation). No ringing tone, no nothing. I cannot hear the busy tone, or network failure/congestion tone and this is annoying since I have to keep an eye on the phone to see what's happening. I found myself checking the phone when, after calling someone, nothing happened and in fact I got a busy tone and the call ended.
- sometimes, when I receive a call, the CD stops playing but when I answer nothing is heard from the car speakers but only from the phone (as davemazo said also).
- when I receive a call, I hear in the car speakers a "standard" calling tone, not the ringtone I have assigned for that contact
I have to mention that with any Nokia I had before (and still have one as a second phone), these problems do not exist. I know there is a compatibility between Audi factory installed car-kits and Nokia, but BT is a standard and most of the functions should be supported despite the phone model/type. I've tried also with an iPhone and it's working great, as my Nokia do. I don't understand why it is like this with the Diamond. In fact, I think it is not related to Diamond itself...it's doing like this with ANY Windows Mobile device I've tried in the past (Orange C600, Samsung I600).
Are there any solutions for this? A CAB, a new BT radio, a software, anything?... I don't want to buy a new BT car-kit and try with different models until I find something compatible
Thank you for any info/tip
Rapier said:
Problems here with BT connection to car kit, too. I'm using the built-in car-kit of an Audi A4 (standard one not that with navigation, remote SIM, etc). I've noticed the following issues:
- when I try to make a call, the CD is cut off but NOTHING is heard in the car speakers UNTIL the other party answers the call (and then I start the conversation). No ringing tone, no nothing. I cannot hear the busy tone, or network failure/congestion tone and this is annoying since I have to keep an eye on the phone to see what's happening. I found myself checking the phone when, after calling someone, nothing happened and in fact I got a busy tone and the call ended.
- sometimes, when I receive a call, the CD stops playing but when I answer nothing is heard from the car speakers but only from the phone (as davemazo said also).
- when I receive a call, I hear in the car speakers a "standard" calling tone, not the ringtone I have assigned for that contact
I have to mention that with any Nokia I had before (and still have one as a second phone), these problems do not exist. I know there is a compatibility between Audi factory installed car-kits and Nokia, but BT is a standard and most of the functions should be supported despite the phone model/type. I've tried also with an iPhone and it's working great, as my Nokia do. I don't understand why it is like this with the Diamond. In fact, I think it is not related to Diamond itself...it's doing like this with ANY Windows Mobile device I've tried in the past (Orange C600, Samsung I600).
Are there any solutions for this? A CAB, a new BT radio, a software, anything?... I don't want to buy a new BT car-kit and try with different models until I find something compatible
Thank you for any info/tip
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Hi Rapier,
I also had a SPV C500, MDA Compact, Qtek 8500, Samsung I600, HTC Touch Dual and now the Diamond. The only one which gave me no troubles was the SPV C500, but I think that was because this phone didn't support phonebook synchronization and had no network identification/signal strength over bluetooth.
After the SPV C500 it went wrong. First I noticed that after a hard reset it worked for a few days. Later (about 2 years later ) I found out that it was because the call history was going to long to sync over bluetooth.
Then I found Jetware in which you can limit syncing to any number of items. They even had a fix for the connection to my carkit.
Unit now... it works like a charm... but keep my fingers crossed
I don't know if your carkit is a Audi UHV, but I saw that they had a fix for that too! You have to just install Jetware and then run the fix-file from your phone. Good luck!!
P.S. I am in no kind related to Jetware, I just found out that it worked for me.
Yes, I have an Audi UHV 6634. Thank you for the info, I'll try that and post the results here. Though, my car-kit is not the advanced one and I don't have to sync anything with it (contacts or something else). It's most working as a plain hands-free device, no extra functions...speaking of which, I've noticed that on the phone is detected as "hands-free"...why not "car-kit" as I know a car-kit has other functionality as well? This is the "standard" BT device for any audio enhancements (even if it is a car-kit not a BT headset), or I have to activate something to be recognized as car-kit?
Mauser.NET said:
Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug
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my Honda system doesn`t read the sim I can only dial out via handsfree using contacts i`ve entered into the Honda system otherwise I either have to read the number to the system and it will ring out (most of the time anyway) or make the call on the phone (illegally obviously) cancel the call and then say "redial" and the system makes the call. So uless I`m misunderstanding this setting I don`t think it will help me.
I`ve searched the Jetware website and I couldn`t find a fix for my Honda
UPDATE: So...I've downloaded it, install it on my Diamond (including the extension file for Audi UHV) and...no change. Everything as before with both issues. Disappointed, I've uninstalled Jetware then...surprise. AFTER uninstall, I can now hear through my car's speakers the ID ringtone Maybe some BT settings were altered and remained like this after uninstall, but I don't know why it didn't work when Jetware WAS installed...strange.
Anyway, many thanks...at least half of the problems are now solved and this only by install/uninstall a program...that's cool. I must now find a way to make the car kit ring when I make a call, this is still an issue.
P.S. I've seen that Diamond support Headset and Handsfree profiles...and when connected to my car kit is set as Handsfree. I suppose this is better than Headset...but still no ring out tone.
Rapier said:
UPDATE: So...I've downloaded it, install it on my Diamond (including the extension file for Audi UHV) and...no change. Everything as before with both issues. Disappointed, I've uninstalled Jetware then...surprise. AFTER uninstall, I can now hear through my car's speakers the ID ringtone Maybe some BT settings were altered and remained like this after uninstall, but I don't know why it didn't work when Jetware WAS installed...strange.
Anyway, many thanks...at least half of the problems are now solved and this only by install/uninstall a program...that's cool. I must now find a way to make the car kit ring when I make a call, this is still an issue.
P.S. I've seen that Diamond support Headset and Handsfree profiles...and when connected to my car kit is set as Handsfree. I suppose this is better than Headset...but still no ring out tone.
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No thanx! I'm glad I could help
Mauser.NET said:
Hi Rapier,
I also had a SPV C500, MDA Compact, Qtek 8500, Samsung I600, HTC Touch Dual and now the Diamond. The only one which gave me no troubles was the SPV C500, but I think that was because this phone didn't support phonebook synchronization and had no network identification/signal strength over bluetooth.
After the SPV C500 it went wrong. First I noticed that after a hard reset it worked for a few days. Later (about 2 years later ) I found out that it was because the call history was going to long to sync over bluetooth.
Then I found Jetware in which you can limit syncing to any number of items. They even had a fix for the connection to my carkit.
Unit now... it works like a charm... but keep my fingers crossed
I don't know if your carkit is a Audi UHV, but I saw that they had a fix for that too! You have to just install Jetware and then run the fix-file from your phone. Good luck!!
P.S. I am in no kind related to Jetware, I just found out that it worked for me.
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Hello,
I have a Mercedes car kit and facing the same issue as you: everything works perfectly for a few days when hard-resetting my device, even with my 500+ contacts (they are loaded in less than a minute), but after a few days/weeks I can't get to have my call history or contacts displayed in less than half an hour!
Yesterday I thought I'd just hard reset my device because I had this problem again, but unfortunately it didn't work!
Guess what I have done differently this time: yes, I backed up and restored my call history, which I hadn't done the previous times! So I guess it is indeed related to the call history, but I can't test for now!
I have installed JetWare and limited the call history to 5 numbers, I'll try this tonight and I'll keep you informed...
Hello,
So I have tested this yesterday (installed Jetware and limited the call history to 5 numbers), and now it works FLAWLESSLY! I can browse through my 500 contacts instantaneously when I pair my phone with my Mercedes car kit.
So, in my case it was also clearly the CALL HISTORY that was causing problems... A BIG BIG thanks to Mauser for pointing out this!
I'm also having problem connecting my Diamond to my Volvo S80. All the other functions work except that I could not hear the other party through my car stereo and I also could not diconnect the call with my car end key.
I'll try the Jetware and I'll report back later. Thanks for the pointer.
turt said:
A BIG BIG thanks to Mauser for pointing out this!
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No thanx! ... glad I could help