Help! WM5 downgrade - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

Hello,
I'm following these instructions:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
However, these two pages:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Versions
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
Are simply returning no data to my web browser, either in Firefox or IE. So I resorted to trying to take the NBF's off this file:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BlueAngel_Roms/BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom/
I also tried another cooked 1.40 rom that I still have from before I upgraded.
In both cases, the upgrade utility shows no information about the previous or to-upgrade-to version when it displays that info (all the version fields are blank), and when I click upgrade, it runs for about 15 seconds then says upgrade complete. Help! I need to get back down to 2003SE because I have software I need to use that doesn't run on WM5.
Thanks

I have the same problem ! In fact, it does not connect to the ppc. Remove it from the craddle and you'll get the same message. Idea anyboy ?

Downgrade to 1.40
Just put your pda to "boot" mode. This can be done by pressing the power button, the "soft" reset hole and the record button. Then downgrade.....

I did that... followed the wicki (the gray screen with usb and the version on the bottom).

I was having this problem as well. I solved it by downgrading to my manufacturers latest ROM 1.3... I am very relieved.

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HELP!!! VERY URGENT!!! MY SCREEN FREEZED ON BOOT COLOURS

Hi
I am really desperated
I have upgraded my PDA2K to wm5 and was working ok until today that freezed on the bootable colour screen.
What should I do? Please help me
NO WORRIES at xda-developers
All you need to do is go to the (Boot options) Just reset the device, as soon as it starts quickly press Record and Camera button together before the version appears at the bottom. Use the record button to scroll up and down and camera for switching it to YES or NO. Leave the top one (Enable KITL = No) and the rest of two i-e (Clean Registry Hive) and (Format Storage) change both to YES. Then press Mail button. You will see a white screen, wait for a while, you will see a start up screen for the fresh setup  If the problem still exist then put into Boot Loader (Record + Power and Reset) the device will show you Serial and USB when it is docked with the cradle. First install the W 5 again, hope this will work, if all this doesn’t works, Downgrade it to 2003 SE, Only by installing the correct ROM (available here at XDA-Developers that is without EXT ROM) cause other shipped ROMs won’t work that are provided by vendors. This will work for sure. Later you can upgrade it again with W5. And yes if you want to stick with 2003 se, just unhide the Ext Rom and simply update it with you shipped ROM provided by your device vendor. Good Luck
I'M STILL IN TROUBLE - PLEASE URGENT HELP
Thanks for your kwik reply.
I have tried all that you have porposed but still nothing.
I have tried "Just reset the device, as soon as it starts quickly press Record and Camera button together before the version appears at the bottom. Use the record button to scroll up and down and camera for switching it to YES or NO. Leave the top one (Enable KITL = No) and the rest of two i-e (Clean Registry Hive) and (Format Storage) change both to YES. Then press Mail button. You will see a white screen, wait for a while, you will see a start up screen for the fresh setup" but stucks on the white screen.
I have tried to downgrade following the intructions but when should recognise the ROM comes completely in blank.
Please help.
More info please
Finally I was able to downgrade it. Will leave it like it is. Thanks for your help.
But now I have another problem. is crashing all the time, what can i do?
Prefer (HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Wizard with 1.5 Radio)
:wink: no problem dear, just upgrade it again to W 5 Prefer (HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Wizard with 1.5 Radio) and this time make sure you stop all these services. rapimgr.exe, outlook.exe, winword.exe, wcescomm.exe, wcesmgr.exe.
(Right click on taskbar -> Task Manager. End the mentioned processes) Do Not Install Resco File Explorer cause it hangs!
Hope this time you will be more prepared to face these kind of problems.
And if you really want to stick with 2003 se, format your device with 60 kb and unhide the Ext Rom, when you see the extended Rom in (Settings -> system -> Memory -> Storage Card), then just reinstall your The Original Shipped Rom (2003 SE) that can be downloaded from the carrier.
ROM version: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Radio version: 1.15.00
Protocol version: 1337.45
ExtROM: 1.1.9.106
Where can I download that from?
thanks for the reply
Where can i download the HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Wizard with 1.5 Radio from?
good decision
Use the current avaialbe Wizard ROM, later upgrade Radio available at http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,225/. Just run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe in Bootloader mode.
good decision
Use the current avaialbe Wizard ROM, later upgrade Radio available at http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,225/. Just run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe in Bootloader mode.

pda2k No Radio Upgrade No answer in WIKI

My wife has a pda2k that the phone quit working on, the pda functions are fine. I was able to upgrade the rom and ext rom but when I try to upgrade the radio it always fails. I have been all over this site and the web nothing has worked to flash the radio. When the flash progarm runs I can see the rom and ext rom versions but nothing is displayed for the radio. I have tried all versions of the roms I have found. Always the same the radio fails, I had to remove the radio rom from the dir. to get the others to update, I then tried the radio alone several times, several different waysand it always fails with various errors.
Thanks for any help.
Husband with a ticked wife please help!
hey,
put ruu.dll, radio_.nbf and MaUpgradeUt_noID in a folder, and run the maupgradeut.exe file...this should upgrade the radio rom only, that is the gsm part.
let me knw whether it workd...
Did you follow the wiki radio upgrade only instructions ? if so what is the error?
I have tried both options listed above, the upgrade starts sits at 0% for several minutes then fails. I do not remember the exact error, this is what happens every time.
put ruu.dll, ruu.conf, radio_.nbf and MaUpgradeUt_noID in a folder, then put your device into bootloader mode by pressing power, reset, and record buttons at the same time, this combination of buttons will show "Serial" and bootloader version on your screen, then place it on the cradle, the "Serial" should change to "USB" then kill activesync (open task manager and kill rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe) then start MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe and all should be fine
if an error pops up please let us know
xplode said:
put ruu.dll, ruu.conf, radio_.nbf and MaUpgradeUt_noID in a folder, then put your device into bootloader mode by pressing power, reset, and record buttons at the same time, this combination of buttons will show "Serial" and bootloader version on your screen, then place it on the cradle, the "Serial" should change to "USB" then kill activesync (open task manager and kill rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe) then start MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe and all should be fine
if an error pops up please let us know
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This not working. I Has the same problem. It seems like HW problem. Can't update radio. Then BT address 00:00:00... And now it freez at startup always.
IMHO. This is bad Flash which died.
I am waiting for answer about a month an still haven't one.
SoftService is right, if this type of upgrade fails it may be a hardware issue
I created a directory with the files listed and this is the error message I recieved:
error 114: radio rom update error
Any Ideas?
Thanks
do you have a sx66?
Anybody here has Full flash from PH20B device?
I think fullflash will help us from that problem. But it will the question how to unlock device after this procedure.
And anybody know how to repair IMEI?
Is there hardware specialists?
MDAIIIUser,
Mine is labeled PDA2K. It has quit syncing now. It just seems to be dying a slow agonizing death, and it's taking me with it! I need my electronic brain back.
I have tried all the suggested steps repeatedly. I am getting nowhere. It seems to want to work, it just keeps erroring out.
Thanks.
I had yesterday some problems regarding radio upgrades, which can not be solved by WIKI, so :
my radio rom was TYPEII and the files for upgrade are TYPEI => It can not upgrade
Tryed radio 1.13 TYPEI with TYPEI files and NOID => error
then tryed radio 1.13.1 TYPEII with its TYPEII files and just copied into that dyrectory the NOID APP and it worked (i have just learned that MAUpgradeUT_NOID.exe works with TYPEII RUU.dll and RUU.conf)
I was surprised because i use NOID for upgrading my roms and the files are TYPEI

Problem with Qtek 9090 Camera

Hello people, I have a question for you. I recently did the Upgrade of my Qtek 9090 to WM 5 (device data now is PH20B WWE 5.03.02 1.12.00). It seems to be working fine (have yet to test wireless connection), but I discovered that I can't get the camera on the phone to work. For some reason, it simply does not react to camera button. It also does not react even when I try with the manual startup of pictures & videos application. Does anyone has any idea how to get out from this one? If this is any help, the original phone data were PH20B 0 B WWE E DANGA102 1.40.00 0 0 1.40.147 1.12.00 12.00.
Thanks a lot
Simple but crucial question: Which WM5 rom you flashed? Have you read specific information about this rom? maybe this one requires some post-instalation operations?
Basically, I found this ROM on www.buzzdev.net, and it only stated BA WM2005 5.03.02WWE - standard upgrade. It is basically the only one which worked for me, since every other dumped me (the model of the phone matched the ROM). However, there were no additional explanations for this, so I am stuck. Is there any registry tweak, or aditional piece of software which could make it work, or I will have to go looking further for better ROM?
As long as we don't know what is the problem with the ROM, we cannot help you - some ROMs just had camera support cut out, others needed installing additional software, some had errors.
About model/device check: please take any recent WM5 rom (baniaczek's for starters) and just read carefully flash instructions from Wiki - there is no problem with device check, if you understand what you do and how you should do it.
Thanks Jakub for good advice, I've been doing some reading and I tried baniaczek's latest issue from the web. However, I've got stuck. Namely, MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe does not work in my case. It simply tells that there has been communication error with the device, or if it starts it tells that this ROM upgrade utility was not designed for this device. I tried the other way with BaUpgrade.exe, with usage of EditFix.bat and xda3nbftool.exe, but it seems that I'm doing something wrong - each time I get the message that the specific ROM was not written for me and that I should check my vendor. Is there any way to get out of this, since now it seems that I can't do no upgrade or downgrade at all?
Thanks a lot in advance, I know this is mostly due to my mistakes and usage of unchecked ROMs.
Thank to everyone who was trying to help me. I did some experimenting in order to solve the upgrade issue, and I solved the problem. This is how I did it: Namely, I downloaded KitchenAKU3.5v2-xplode, which also contains useful readme. Basically if you want to have MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to work for you at all, you have to put the device in Bootloader mode (press power + record simultaneously). After that, the upgrade went smoothly, after I designed my own rom, which was very easy with xplode's tutorial.
One more thing I did was that after the upgrade, I did a soft reset and "cleanup" of the device. after the soft reset I changed following options on the boot screen using camera and record buttons:
“Enable KITL” set to NO
“Clean Registry Hive” set to YES
“Format Storage” set to YES. (again on xplode's instructions)
After that, I confirmed settings with pressing of the mail button. One minute later, I had fully operational and very fast QTEK 9090 running WM5.
I hope that some things I did will be useful to other people trying to fix their blue angels. And of course, thanks to Xplode for making an excellent user-friendly upgrade.

Please Help me to downgrade to WM2003

Hi, I have HTC Blue Angel running WM6.5 and find that it struggles to run at this level, i am looking to downgrade to the original wm2003 that it came with, I am on Orange UK
Current Seetings :-
Rom Version : 6.5.23004EN
Rom Date : 06/12/09
Radio Version : 1.15.00
Protocol Version : 1337.45
Extrom version : 23004-xplode
could anyone help and tell me excactly what files i need to download to restore to original shipped state and exactly how to carry out the downgrade.
Regards,
John.
welcome to the forum!
ok, what you need is:
- a pc, preferably with windows xp
- a wm2003 rom in your preferred language, e.g. from -=xplode's shipped rom archive=-
-a RUU (Rom upgrade utility), you can try mine there (attached)
and then you go to the -=wiki wizard for downgrading=- and follow the instructions there or follow these shortened instructions:
1. hard reset your device: power+reset, then camera and record, change the values in the menu from No, No, Yes to YES, YES, NO using the camera and record buttons, confirm with the mail button.
2. put your device in bootloader mode
3. connect it to the pc using the cradle or a usb cable
4. extract the shipped rom in any folder
5. put the maupgradeut_noid in there and start it
6. have a look, whether the 2nd page shows device and rom information, if not, exit, start task manager and kill activesync (wcesmgr and wcescomm) and go back to step 2
7. start the "upgrade"
8. when it's done, perform a wm2003 hard reset by pressing power+reset, and wait for the versions to show up in the bottom right corner, if all the values changed from your previous wm6.5 versions, you're probably fine and done by now.
in very rare cases, something goes wrong, some combinations of pcs and devices wouldn't work with my ruu, but you would realise that at step6 or 7, try and download another ruu then and try again, i think there also is one linked in the wiki.
at the end, your device should read something like:
R:1.12.00
G:1337.42
D:1.06.02
with best regards
Chef_Tony
Decided to go for windows pocket 2005
Thanks Chef_Tony im afraid im running vista and have tried using mtty but with no success, I have now decided to downgrade to pocket 2005, is this possible and how would i do it with windows vista as i am unable to downgrade to XP. Please help if possible.
Thanks John
Bootloader
Hi i dont know if this makes any difference my Bootloader is showing Version 2.05 Reagrds.
no, it does not make any difference, since the bootloader's version is not the problem. before you go on doing anything, you should have a good look at this site:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista_Pic
and unless you are sure, the installation of the driver was successful, you should not attempt to flash the device, because then you will end up with a half-flashed device, that cannot be switched on and maybe also not flashed anymore.
http://firmware.atspace.com/ can't be accessed. is there any other site for wm2003se rom ?
I have the same problem, as i m downgrading to WM 2003, i followed all the instructions as u mentioned here, but when i run "maupgradeut_noid" it always said that this ROM is not for your device, i have Orange SPV M2000 (Blue Angel), please help i cant able to downgrade to WM 2003.
One more thing is there any way to Merge ExtROM with Storage in Windows MObile 6.5?
byudi23 said:
http://firmware.atspace.com/ can't be accessed. is there any other site for wm2003se rom ?
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http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html
working flawlessly for me. check now
subratamm said:
http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html
working flawlessly for me. check now
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still can't open http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html too
ok, we are dealing with several different things here:
1. the storage resize:
no, it can only be done in wm2003, no way to do it in wm5 or above, you have to downgrade
2. while attempting to downgrade, don't forget to put your device into bootloader mode, before connecting and starting maupgrade, then there will be no device error anymore.
3. of course for downgrading you need the original rom, at best from xplode's shipped rom archive, if you can't access it, just tell me your favoured language and country, and i will look it up and send you the direct download link. btw. xplode's site works fine!
favoured languange : English
Country : Indonesia
please send me the direct link. thx a lot. chef_tony
since he doesn't have indonesian roms and you are fine with english, here are the links of 2 different UK roms, you should be fine with.
T-Mobile UK WWE 1.42.00 1.42.112 1.13.00 Download (Ziddu) / Mirror 1 (Rapidshare) / Mirror 2 (Megaupload)
O2 UK WWE 1.40.00 1.40.242 1.12.00 Download (Ziddu) / Mirror 1 (Rapidshare) / Mirror 2 (Megaupload).
i hope these links work for you.
thx a lot chef_tony. I almost forgot. I want to ask whether the different rom can drain the battery fastly ? because my battery drain faster using WM6.5.
the power consumption of the device mainly consists of 2 things:
- wireless communications (gsm, gprs, bluetooth, irda, wi-fi)
- hardware usage (cpu & ram)
the wireless does not really vary from rom to rom but much like on the pc, graphically more intense applications use more power and since wm6.5 has a much nicer shell, it uses more ram and cpu to run. that uses more power.
if you want to save battery, reduce the backlight intensity, let the device switch off faster and end all applications that you don't need and de-activate wireless communications that you don't use. still then the battery life is limited but that is something you will have to learn to put up with.
thx chef_tony. I want to ask about the memory used ? is it better with storage 42mb and program 90 mb or repart it into default which is storage 60mb and program 60 mb ? is this RAM configuration also affect the battery consumption ?
no, that has nothing to do with that, because you don't resize the ram, you resize the extrom and the storage. that doesn't have any influence, kind of like the size of the sd card does not have influence.
Chef_Tony said:
welcome to the forum!
ok, what you need is:
- a pc, preferably with windows xp
- a wm2003 rom in your preferred language, e.g. from -=xplode's shipped rom archive=-
-a RUU (Rom upgrade utility), you can try mine there (attached)
and then you go to the -=wiki wizard for downgrading=- and follow the instructions there or follow these shortened instructions:
1. hard reset your device: power+reset, then camera and record, change the values in the menu from No, No, Yes to YES, YES, NO using the camera and record buttons, confirm with the mail button.
2. put your device in bootloader mode
3. connect it to the pc using the cradle or a usb cable
4. extract the shipped rom in any folder
5. put the maupgradeut_noid in there and start it
6. have a look, whether the 2nd page shows device and rom information, if not, exit, start task manager and kill activesync (wcesmgr and wcescomm) and go back to step 2
7. start the "upgrade"
8. when it's done, perform a wm2003 hard reset by pressing power+reset, and wait for the versions to show up in the bottom right corner, if all the values changed from your previous wm6.5 versions, you're probably fine and done by now.
in very rare cases, something goes wrong, some combinations of pcs and devices wouldn't work with my ruu, but you would realise that at step6 or 7, try and download another ruu then and try again, i think there also is one linked in the wiki.
at the end, your device should read something like:
R:1.12.00
G:1337.42
D:1.06.02
with best regards
Chef_Tony
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It was very helpfull!
Showing white screen after hard reset
Dear Tony,
Since I wanted to get more space for my Xda iis tonight, so I install a unlock softwares to unlock the Extrom according to some indication on web, also I format it after scusseful to get a extrom, but I got a freezable white screen after using hard reset, the programe showing rom upgard scussefully but it cannot get into window: Could you teach me how to fix this problem? Can I save my xda IIS?
Thank you so much for your help.
Simon
please do not double post! i answered this exact question in the thread you opened for that.
thanks chef tony!

Back from Android to WM6 problems

Hello everyone!
I recently installed Android Froyo 2.2 (Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo RLS15 All Language), following mainly this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=602, and also reading many others, about hardspl etc.
Everything went perfect! The phone workes just fine, full functioning!
My problem is that, after deciding to go back to windows mobile for selling my phone, I followed these steps :
"Switching back is very easy. All you gotta do is download your favorite WinMO rom, and rename RUU_Signed.nbh to KAISimg.nbh and place it on your SD card along with KAISDIAG.NBH.
Place the SD into your Kaiser and hold the Power button and camera button down, then take your stylus and hit the reset button. Follow the instructions on the screen to flash your Kaiser. When the flashing is done you should be back to running Windows Mobile."
I downloaded the shipped rom RUU_signed_WWE_1.56.405.5_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.17 but the update process stopped at about 1/3, and the phone rebooted with Android OS.
Also, when I press the power button+camera button, for a new update flash, after the three colors screen(KAIS130, SPL-3.07.0000, CPLD-8), the message "Loading..." appears and stucks.
I guess, my phone no longer has hardspl, and there is no way to put it back, neither put back the signed rom, if there is no WM os????
Any help/suggestions???
Thank you very much, in advance
I suggest you follow the tutorial switch back to Windows Mobile by Dukenukemx ~ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6461906&postcount=1
looks like a really lost hardspl. Maybe this will help you get back to windows http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Kaiser_stuck_at_bootloader
aris0602 said:
I downloaded the shipped rom RUU_signed_WWE_1.56.405.5_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.17 but the update process stopped at about 1/3, and the phone rebooted with Android OS.
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One question:
What version radio was on the phone BEFORE attempting a WinMoBlows flash?
It looks like the shipped rom had the 1.27.12.17 radio included in the bundle and, if so, this would explain the error in flashing.
One thing to check would be at the bottom of "Settings" page, touch "About Phone". Towards the bottom you will see "Baseband Version". The numbers at the end are your radio version and should be the original radio numbers. If it says "1.27.12.17", you've found one problem...
I would say follow dukenukem's post and try to reflash HardSPL again.
I haven't run into this problem yet since I will probably never sell either of my Kaisers... lol.
same problem at my place...
installed android, about 2 month ago, wanted to switch back to win and couldnt do it that simple as say "Switching back is very easy. All you gotta do is download your favorite WinMO rom, and rename RUU_Signed.nbh to KAISimg.nbh and place it on your SD card along with KAISDIAG.NBH. " in Dukenukemx's tutorial.
I have tried everything putting on sd card many ROM's Hardspl's, then i found this on my pc RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship when i try to flash via usb (manually enter bootloader and connect usb cable) it get to 1% and reboots and ond rom update software says ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID and above Exit button says: VER4-KBKV5867-HUEbc568-KBKV58670...
and when i try same rom to flash via sd card it says
Loading...
Checking...
0028002
Not Allow
with any other it stay's at 0% on phone and nothing is showed, then on RUU says ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR and down is button Recovery, tried a lot's of times nothing...
Then i saw that you PoXFreak said to check radio in baseband mine is 1.65.17.56
any sugestions please?
Another user with problems...
Tried a return from android to windows mobile because of the random locks that were happening in android (also some other weirdnessess...)
Now when it is put a microSD with kaisimg or kaisdiag it goes into white loading screen and stay there...
(tried flashing Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2, that seemed to be the one who came with my phone)
The baseband message somebody talked above shows only "HTC"
When in tricolor bootloader the following is showed:
security unlocked
KAIS***
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
(Still gonna try updating it connected to the computer, seems like usb and serial dettection are working, for it will dettect the charger connection and start showing USB in the lower part of the screen, battery got very low overnight, still needing to charge it to really do some test)
_____________
Update:
Flashed ok through USB, just entered tricolor bootloaded, connected usb and executed the original rom installer.
hello everyone
I used to have this kind of problem.. my hard spl broke when i tried to flash a stock wm rom from android.
In my opinion, each stock roms comes with specific SPL, radio version, etc. It means that when you are trying to flash stock rom, you also flashing new SPL. the problem is, the new SPL broke your hard SPL so you won't be able to flash anything to your kaiser except your original stock rom which comes with your kaiser.
you can find some stock roms for kaiser here : http://shipped-roms.com
Since I'm only sure that my kaiser originaly comes with WWE version I almost tried all the WWE stock roms there, but my search ended when I flashed RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe, this rom works for my phone and it seems that only this rom didn't give me "invalid vender ID" message.
so, keep trying to find your original stock rom
and after you managed to flash your stock rom, don't forget to flash hard-SPL again if you still want to mess around with your kaiser.
good luck
Another way to do it, albeit a little tougher, would be to use Oli's NBH tool and remove the SPL and radio from a stock rom. That way you get to keep the radio and SPL while flashing a stock rom.
Keep in mind that some WM roms only like certain radio versions, and you may end up having to flash an older (or newer) radio to find what works best.

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