WM5 for Alpine might be along soon... - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

http://www.smartphone-web.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=873
This is the whole iTunes on WM5 through T-Mobile rumour, but that's an Alpine on the full pice, not an MDAIII as I had previously read.
Could T-Mob be shipping this soon with WM5 on it?
Orange are supposed to be launching the Alpine too, but it's launch was delayed until after the Universal, maybe that too will be WM5?
Looks promising!

We'll wait and see, so many rumours and not the real thing yet, be glad when its finally released :lol:

Ahh, I just realised that's only an MDA2 in the photo.
I thought the MDA2 was all silver like the XDA2 and the others, and the black panel ones were like the i-mate 2020i.
Bugger.
Probably a load of crap after all then.

when it gonna be released ? too long waiting....but its ok if got any news about WM5 for Alpine

itunes for PPC was discovered to be 100% fake.

so dudes any ideas for XDA O2IIi to transform into WM5? install files cabs ans ****s? i read for himalaya or whatever they call but nothing for XDA o2IIi

There is no WM5 for xda2i

AlanJC said:
There is no WM5 for xda2i
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no wm5 for xda2i YET!!!

Dudes, let's wait. WM5 is too poor now. Why updating? There are too many software, that does not run, no localizations for different languages.
Soon we will have this update, but now it is useless.

I have used WM5 on my old XDA2, it's far from useless if you're English speaking, it's way more stable than 2003se, and there are alternatives to most apps that will not run properly yet.
It's worth it in my, and many other's opinion.
Shame nobody will release it on the Alpine though

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[REQ] Windows Mobile 5 on XDA IIi

Hi, Does anyone know if there is an update to XDA IIi to Windows Mobile 5.0.
I know there is one for the Himalaya version of XDA.
I have spoken to 02 and they say that it is highly unlikely and would be releasing the XDA II Exec with WM2005. Any info would be gratefully received.
Mod edit: Please be sure to mark requests with [REQ]
Double post deleted.
And there is currently no WM 5 for that device.
Can't the admins just delete these threads and/or ban the thread starters? I mean how many times has this thread been posted, 200, 300?
The thing is that that new people arrives every day.
New people don't know what we know, new people don't/can't consume all the content of this site that fast.
Banning new people won't do xda-dev any good.
Deleting the posts will only give us even more of these post :!:
So the best thing for those that feel irritated by it, just overlook them and move on :wink:
Thread moved from mod. upgrade, unlock to Alpine
WM2005
Apologies to the anybody who is not happy with my post.
Don't worry about them!!!If you don't know,you have the right to ask!!!However,before that you should read some thread about the topic you want to know!!!
Cheers mate
I have been watching posts for two months, and still have not been able to understand "yes", "no" or "maybe soon...."
People talk Blueangel, da da da...
I want clear talk about XDA IIi or Alpine. Don't be jumping on people to review old threads when it is hard enough knowing which model people are actually referring to...
I too am interested in reading if anyone has recently tried a 2005 mod on XDA IIi (Alpine), and what problems they may have encountered.
blueclue7, the WM2005 ROM is not for the Alpine, it is for the Himalaya.
The hardware is totally different between the two devices, it will not work.
There is no WM2005 build for the Alpine yet, maybe never, we don't know yet.
The Alpine has WM2003se, and so far, that is all there is.
WM2003 exists for the Alpine in 2 main versions so far, both have bugs. Most of these bugs would probably be solved by WM2005, but guess what, there isn't a WM2005 build yet.
Oh, by the way, WM2005 for the Himilaya won't work on the Alpine, just as it won't work on the Blue Angel, or the Magician, or any other PPC other than the Himalaya.
hi guys u have just bought an xda2i off ebay. I am regretting it before it has arrived due to the lushness of wm2005 and you guys saying it wont be coming to xda2i. How come its coming to the older xda2 arghhh. I may have to make them program an update at gunpoint.
if you want i can trade you my MDAII? heheh :lol:
WM2005 on XDA IIi
It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.
Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.
I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.
I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!
WM2005 on XDA IIi
It will be interesting when they release the Universal with WM2005, as it is technically the XDAIIi is similar. So hopefully it will be just a matter of time before someone reverse engineers the Universal Rom for XDAIIi.
Unless of course the 02/I-Mate/Qtek etc do the sensible thing and release an offical upgrade.
I don't see how Microsoft and PDA makers can whine about priacy, when people have spent good money for a new release PDA, only to be told it has the old software and even though it is capable of accepting the WM2005 upgrade....easily, we won't do it cause we don't think our customers are that important, welcome to the money grabbing world of Microsoft and many others.
I hope Microsoft and PDA people read this and learn!!!!
Hello, there is some good news from our friend at blue angel forum, some one from that forum asked his frien if there's any update WM5 for Blue Angel, and his friend (who is HTC rep) said "YES!!!" :shock:
I read that post three times, ( i wondering if my english is really bad or there will be update for HTC Blue Angle ) Here's the link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=147760#147760
and for me that is "good" new ( May be a bit, but better than nothing), there is a hope they also make up date for HTC Alpine because it's younger :? . Yah... just hope....
or some one will give the WM5 Himalaya cooker a new HTC Alpine????
I'm sure he'll make that (WM5) work on HTC Alpine... :lol:
should we start a petition?
why not ?
WM5
hey... good idea... :idea:
Great News Again
Hei XDA IIi lovers, i got some ( I think good news ), i post some email to O2 asia asking if they will release WM5 for IIi and their answer :
"There are no firm plans as yet to offer this particular upgrade to customers of existing Xda devices"
But.... don't stop there ......., after that they wrote :
"but we are studying market demand for this platform, and we will certainly consider offering it in the future if there are sufficient requests for it from our customers" :shock:
Do you all get it???
they just need to know if there's sufficient request...
I guest i've start my petition.... How about we all start to petition right now.... :lol: :lol:
hehe i wont hold my breath but i might aswell put my name down for the petition.
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Danny-B-
O2 (UK) customer
Gimmie WM2005 NOW !!!
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Okay, lets finish this thread now, Here are the FACTS !!
WM2005 IS NOT RELEASED YET
The Himalaya build is a internal release by microsoft which was leaked to the world and then modified by our good friends buzz Lightyear and co. This build was specially written for microsoft employees on the wm2005 program as the majority of them have himalaya devices.
This new OS will be released officially on the next generation of XDA devices which will probably incorparate 3G technology as well.
So NO The current WM2005 builds that are doing the rounds WILL NEVER be available for other platforms as the hard ware is completely different from platform to platform.
All you can hope for is that
a) It is officially released for your device then modified like Wm2003SE for Himalaya.
b) Some one will swap you there XDA II device.
c) Get a copy of Wisbar Advance and skin it to look like Magento (This actually looks more polished than the actual WM2005 in my opinion.
I personally have a M1000, Orange version of the XDA II which i upgraded to WM2003SE after 3 days of it arriving, then upgraded to WM2005 1.60b which i am now running..... it's the best phone/thing i've ever had.....plus i got it cheap thanks to a price mistake on Orange's website

Windows Mobile 5 and Alpine -Should WM5 be on the Alpine?POL

Hi guys and gals.
Great forum and I will be coming back every hour, helps everyone trmeendously well.
Anyway I have an xda 2i which i bought last month and is going great. Got tomtom 5 on it and syncs it with my outlook. Nothing could go wrong...
and it hasn't but looking at the new WINDOWS MOBILE 5 it looks os much more modern and I was looking to upgrade.
I have looked at the other posts and people have been talking about there is no upgrade. I wonder as there is the himalaya and it runs bascially on the same system doesn't it?
but here is an ebay auction that sells it for xda2i so is it true or ont?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Windows-Mobil...864660131QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s they have changed the ebay autions now so that they don't say xda2i but they sued to.
Are there not loads of problems with TomTom 5 and WM5?
Should WM5 be on the Alpine?
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Of course everyone want the latest on their device but as Alpine device not too famous enough and still much more need to be discover. IF there's anyone selling upgrade for XDA IIi on ebay, he wont be anyone except from here also. As I know, the GOD of WM5 is buzz...... he can be damn rich if selling like that on ebay but he dont want.
If we dreaming to having WM5 on our device without any action, we wont stop dreaming. How about making donation so that we can buy an Alpine device for buzz...........
any suggestion???? any protest???
ok
thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.
no no no! it wont work! Himalaya WM5 wont work on Alpine.
u seem quite sure, did u try it and it broke ur alpine?
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daz4590 said:
thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.
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The devices may look the same but that's where the similarities end.
Hardware wise they are totally different and therefore completely incompatible. Until someone creates a rom editor and has the knowledge to mix the base OS with the drivers from 2003se, or even create new ones, cooked versions won't be available.
The suppliers won't release an update because, like Clustered said, not enough people use the Alpine to justify the huge financial outlay. It's all about profit.
Even if customers pay for an update, the cost would be greater than buying an OS for a PC because of the relatively few people who would upgrade. It would take about 10 minutes for pirated copies to end up on the internet as well, putting an even bigger dent in profits.
I think it should happen but unfortunately, it won't.

Is WM2005 possible for Alpine?

I understand it seems n00bish, but..
I found no reference on the forum about upgrade of any Alpine device from 2003SE to 2005. Does it realy matter there is no hope with trying find such an upgrage? I have an Qtek 2020i (model PH10C, 2003SE, ROM 1.11.00WWE). Can I find a WM2005 ROM existing, which is situable for my device?
Thanx
There's no exsisting WM5 for the HTC Alpine like the XDA 2i or the Qtek 2020i and there's nobody who can AND want to port a WM5 for our little machines!
Oh, by the wy: WM6 is also not possible like the WM5 story!
I see lot of people use Alpine. but who can explain me why Alpine can't have Win 05? about hardware?driver?
I think the hardware is good enough (like HTC Universal) but no one of the cracks about ROM coding like Buzz continued the development of WM5 for the Alpine!
:'-(
Even porting to Linux must disable the wifi also.
Hi,
Is this thread to talk about possible?
If you keep reading at Sticky thread under Alpine upgrading about Windows Mobile 5 on XDA IIi it's possible for Alpine to run WM2005 but no one would like to donation device to buzz.
Read at thread Windows Mobile 5 on XDA IIi page 5 #42, buzz had told that he dont have Alpine device. If he got it at that time, Im sure he'll try the best he can.
At the same thread page 6 #59, Daz999 talk about donate to buzzdev and make buzz goes down. If anyone at buzz situation sure feel down because the way Daz999 talk about it. Daz999 dont know what donation means. From that time, buzz seem like not interest about Alpine anymore.
And now with many kind of device released and about WM6 too, everyone sure busy chasing technologies......
Thanks
I sold off my Xda2i already..

Windows Mobile 6 on Treo 750 - SPOTTED!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/12/palm-treo-750-running-windows-mobile-6/
Promising....
Steve
You dont visit the forums much, do you? The date on that article is Feb. 12th..
So does anyone have an idea when it is coming (rumors, etc)? The TyTN guys are up and running on WM6, I'm getting jealous here.
rezilient said:
So does anyone have an idea when it is coming (rumors, etc)? The TyTN guys are up and running on WM6, I'm getting jealous here.
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It is expected to be released to existing customers and pre-loaded on new devices in July/August 2007. Because Palm have made so many adjustments to make WM5 work better on the Treo, they will have to do that again and it will take some time to fully test.
aussienick said:
It is expected to be released to existing customers and pre-loaded on new devices in July/August 2007. Because Palm have made so many adjustments to make WM5 work better on the Treo, they will have to do that again and it will take some time to fully test.
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Since WM6 is not very different from WM5, I think it shouldn't take long.
kortez said:
Since WM6 is not very different from WM5, I think it shouldn't take long.
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I would assume the same thing, but they wont release it so quickly after releasing the unlocked Treo. Plus, after speaking with reps from Palm there is still a lot of confusion amongst them all about when it will happen.
Palm Australia does not know ****
DO not expect a Palm WM6 upgrade for current Treo 750's at all
I promise you it will not happen.
cam05 said:
Palm Australia does not know ****
DO not expect a Palm WM6 upgrade for current Treo 750's at all
I promise you it will not happen.
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I didnt mention Palm Australia. I have spoken with Pal Australia, Singapore and UK and have got a maybe from Australia and a Yes from Singapore and UK, infact Singapore has officially confirmed it in an interview with cnet interview (asia.cnet.com)
Existing Palm user WILL get an upgrade to their Treo 750/750v.
Hi. Where?
Can you post a link to the article where cnet asia reported that Palm said existing 750 owners would be upgraded to WM6?
Let's be clear: we know 750s will eventually be sold w/ WM6 loaded. I have not seen anywhere (pending cnet asia post notwithstanding) that says that existing 750s w/ WM5 will have an option to upgrade to WM6.
Any documentation would be interesting.
Thanks.
RJH2
Even (!) if there would be no official upgrade, current users can install the firmware from "new" Treos with WM6.
RJH2 said:
Hi. Where?
Can you post a link to the article where cnet asia reported that Palm said existing 750 owners would be upgraded to WM6?
Let's be clear: we know 750s will eventually be sold w/ WM6 loaded. I have not seen anywhere (pending cnet asia post notwithstanding) that says that existing 750s w/ WM5 will have an option to upgrade to WM6.
Any documentation would be interesting.
Thanks.
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Here is the other article i read on the subject. http://apcmag.com/5377/palm_treo_750_has_an_upgrade_up_its_sleeve i cannot find the asia Cnet one at the moment.
Palm will offer both a new Treo 750 with WM6 on it and an upgrade, i would assume for marketing purposes that they will release the Treo pre-loaded with WM6 first and then release an update to existing customers within the weeks after that. Either way, I'm sure someone smart will upload the rom for everyone
Thanks, that article is certainly encouraging. Hope to see it soon.
http://mobilitytoday.com/news/007541/palm_treo_windows_6
Interesting....
For those of you who may be interested in a CDMA Treo 750...i wouldnt trust this too much, yet
http://www.everythingtreo.com/forum/new-treo-smartphones/treo-800-a-8182.html
It is out (WM6+HS) and am testing it. I'll give you update later
Where'd you get it? If you're 'testing' it, then it's not really out. What's HS?
What??? I sense sarcasm
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Where'd you get it? If you're 'testing' it, then it's not really out. What's HS?
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I'd assume it is HSPDA which is included in the Treo ROM for WM6
Great news !!!
austin_boy said:
It is out (WM6+HS) and am testing it. I'll give you update later
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Great News austin_boy! Can you post some of your first impressions here?

WM6 on O2

I rang O2 today to enquire as to when a WM6 Rom would be available for my XDA IIs they said that they had no plans to release one but did say to search the net as there could well be one as there is no reason as to why the XDA IIs couldn't run WM6.
So i'm going to keep googleing but so far no joy i wish i was a good programmer lol
Well that's O2 for you. They don't have any plan of providing software upgrade to our unit, even with my atom exec. They just leave the dirty work for other developers.
They don't even have wm5 as an official update... :/
wm6 rom
i have an wm6 rom downloaded frm a torrent website but im not sure whether it is compatible with BA.
It's not. ;P
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It's not. ;P
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at all "newbies" here:there is NOT a WM6 for BA.
and most of us dont think that it will ever seen on our machines.
there are to many problems to port it to this device.
Is it not possible to cook a rom of WM6 using the hardware drivers from WM5 for the chipset etc of the phone?
I have no idea how to do it but i was wondering if some of the magicians out there may be able to work the old magiC?
No. It's not going to happen. We tried, we had ideas, but theres a problem with the XIP porting I believe so it isn't going to happen for us.
If it does - it WILL get posted. Don't keep asking.
http://www.ppc2you.com/vb/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=106
hey this page claims to have WM6 for all pocket pcs scroll down andf it will be listed at bottom for the BA
appologies i have downloaded and it helmis rom claiming to be WM6 !! i think damn the con artists
Also i have seen that T mobile users are being offered a WM6 ROM on their MDA III which is the BA isn't it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-309604.html
see there we go
thats an artemis lol
ah i see i thought the MDA III was a BA
Waiting for a "...maybe it will be one for us. Hopefully"

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