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Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...
Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:
HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners
Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!
I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.
That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom
Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.
Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ
Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!
sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!
My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ
i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!
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(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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Hi,
I have an Orange (UK) M2000, running the Qtek rom which was around months ago (1.40.00 WWE), Radio 1.13.00 and Ext Rom 1.40.110,
I've been busy and not been on the forums for a few months, but on my return I see lots of mention of WM2003 and 1.42 rom's....
What would people recommend upgrading to?
What are the outstanding issues in them?
I'm still having some long running problems with my current rom's - answering and not been able to hear the other person, calls not hanging up properly, and the bluetooth is rubbish with earpieces.
These questions are probably already answered, but theres so many long threads I dont know where to start or have the time
Thanks!!
Ian
i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.
akamavrik1012 said:
hey, thanx for takin a look. im new to posting and this site and forums in general. i dont know what im about to ask if its Ok or not. if its not, i know im going to get scolded for it, but plz just let me know how to go about it for future ref. im probably going to be asking questions that can be found throughout the site f i just looked. i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. i just got a cingular 8125. though i am not new to windows mobile cuz ive been a heavy user or mpx200 then the mpx220 and great on a regular windows os, i didnt want to take any chances with the 8125. i dont want to install something or mess up or miss a process of installing a file or program and my 8125 is gone just as quick as i got it ot anything.one of my purposes is to leave my laptop at home when i travel or just goin round. though i am a college student, not a business man, im big on having convienience when i need it for work, or for personal use. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.
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Welcome, friend.
First, I have to admit that I have ADD, and couldn't summon the attention to read your entire post.
I do however think that what you are looking for you can find by browsing and searching these, as well as the Cingular HoFo forums.
When you say your 8125 is "carrier unlocked", do you mean SIM unlocked? If so, that's just swell, but won't allow you to install any ROMs that didn't come from Cingular. You need to CID unlock to install custom ROMs. (Tip: search for "CID unlock")
Start by reading through several pages in the plain 'ol "Wizard" forum (the forum you're in now is the Wizard upgrading forum) - you'll find lots of useability discussions in there. HoFo is good for that as well.
In the future, if you find features of some of the custom ROMs desireable, you'll need to have your device CID unlocked, and you'll have to run a program on your PC that flashes your device. When you get to that point, post a message and I or any of the other fine folks around here will help you. Be sure that you've done all the reading you can stand first though.
Here's a basic primer on some of the terms you'll see around here:
CID lock: carrier ID lock - restricts device to ROMs from originating carrier
SIM lock: locks a device to the originating carrier's SIM cards
Extended ROM: a portion of storage on a device used to store customization files
radio ROM: the code on the device that interfaces with the xmit/recv hardware
AKU: Adaptation Kit Update - essentially a service pack for Windows Mobile. These can add fixes and/or features. AKU 2.0 and above includes Direct Push
Direct Push: push mail/calendar/contacts - like Blackberry. Used with Exchange server SP2, this will push new items to your device as they arrive or are changed.
Sleep: what I should be doingzzzzz
If you're new to the Wizard and trying to pick a ROM to try, I'd suggest one of the following based on your carrier:
T-Mobile US - Download one of Xelencin's ROMs
Cingular - You want one of Summiter's creations
If you are overseas and use a different carrier, or just want a barebones ROM to customize the way you see fit, grab Mr. Clean.
Since you say you've got an 8125, I'm guessing that you're on Cingular in the US. In that case, stick with Summiter's latest as it will be a plug-and-play solution for you.
Ultimate Wizard setup
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.
Re: Ultimate Wizard setup
goodbyte said:
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.
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A post worthy of a sticky if I have EVER seen one!!!!
This site is amazing! I'm brand new to to smart phones and customizing anything like them and I want to try to learn as much as I can before I commit to anything like changing the ROM. I just got an ATT Tilt and stumbled on this website. I spent 3 hours last night reading threads, but I still have questions. I also have a 10 month old daughter who requires constant supervision so having that much time again to read anything isn't very likely. My questions are:
1. Is the newest ROM on this site the best one to go with?
2. If so I noticed something in the thread about the time and date. If I don't change the registry, which I don't know how to do, does the date not show up, if I install this ROM?
3. Other than the keyboard fix, are there any other necessary things I'll need to fix?
4. Will the 3g still work? I saw the answer posted to this question, but all I found was the explanation of what and where the 3g was.
Thanks in advance for your responses and I apologize if these are repeat questions, but like I mentioned I read everything I could on this site and I guess I just don't understand everything. Sorry for the long post. Thanks again.
I'm not sure which rom your talking about. I didn't have any problems with time, in terms of registry tweeking, with the Dutty 6.1 rom. The date and time shows with that, but all you have to do is change the setting, as in 12 hour format or 24 and so on.
Number 3 is best left to someone whos more knowledgable than me.
Regarding number 4. 3g worked with my phone when I used Dutty's Rom with a Polaris Radio and all.
I'm sure what threads you've read, but here are the ones that helped me out. 98% of my questions were answered with the following threads and links within.
Rom Flashing Faq for Newbies
White Screen Method
List of Kaiser Roms
Radios
If you do go with Dutty's rom, then read this Wiki
This last link is THE best place to start.
Thanks a lot. I had read all those threads last night, but it was a lot to take in at one time. I just wanted to make sure I was doing everything right. I think I'm going to use Dutty's (WM6.1) and I read the wiki you were talking about, but why did you choose the radio that you did?
The radio you choose depends on your location, usage, and device... make sure you use a radio that's compatible with WM6.1 if you're going to flash Dutty's Rom. Check my signature for the ROM i use, I'm from Manchester in UK and it works well for me.
Although... don't rush in to flashing you're phone, as you've stated you are new to smartphones and customizing... it's not very difficult, but pre-mature flashing is what causes people to end up with bricked devices...
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Thanks a lot. I had read all those threads last night, but it was a lot to take in at one time. I just wanted to make sure I was doing everything right. I think I'm going to use Dutty's (WM6.1) and I read the wiki you were talking about, but why did you choose the radio that you did?
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To be honest, I dont remember the deciding factor, but I know it had to do with other peoples oppinion, US residents (for signals issues and what not), and a thread that had to do with Roms.
I have owned my Tilt for about 7 months and have always stuck with the stock ROMs. Extremely poor signal strength in my area has led me to try new radios, which, basically, entailed that I go all in on the ROMs. Ultimately, I had to revert to the current WM6.0 AT&T Stock ROM because there were just too many problems.
I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
1) HardSPL - Jaberwok has a solution for the White Screen. One of the MIDDLE powered-on steps is to remove your SIM and SD Cards. It is not possible on a Tilt (at least) to remove the sim while the unit is on. I would respectfully as that Jaberwok update his Page 1 to clarify when the SIM Card should be removed. As a note, the problem is that if you unlock the sim card slot the unit freezes and tells you it will reboot when you lock it. If you leave it unlocked the unit wont boot. If there the SIM card really needs to be out, it would be great if the instructions were reshuffled so that they don't give the impression that the SIM card is to be removed from any state other than a power off, with the door of the empty chamber locked.
2) AT&T Settings - I had decided to settle on Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid ROM as it seemed to be one of the newer ones. The AT&T connectivity customization which runs was not correct (for the United States at least). The web might connect ok via MEdia Net, but nothing else would - preferring to go to ISP (which had isp.cingular). Attempting to change these settings to mirror the Stock AT&T settings did not provide any relief. There was no way to check messages. Perhaps part of the Wiki could explain how to take anyone's custom ROM, and get it to work on the AT&T network. Checking messages would result in a "dialing error" (no matter whether the advanced connection settings were set to MEdia Net for all uses, or the values were changed to mirror the wap.cingular settings).
3) Diamond - The master ROM sticky from the Wiki is a great resource. I was afraid to try Dutty's Diamond ROM because I had no idea if Diamond was a new phone, which would then cause me to brick mine.
4) Hard Resets - All of the installation instructions, whether on the individual cooker's Post 1, or in the Rom Wiki, are fairly inconsistent on when a Hard Reset is needed. Many posts on the forum indicate Problem X -> oh did you hard reset -> yeah that worked. An example of the vagueness is: Should I hard reset before I flash HardSPL? before I flash a Radio? before a flash a ROM? and then all of the above but using "after". Unless you are a cook, cooking your favorite apps into a rom, a Hard Reset is an awful bitter pill. If there are steps which do not require a Hard Reset, it would be of great benefit to know those.
5) Radio - Would love to know if I can flash a radio without a Hard Reset afterwards. Would also love to know if I can flash a radio into the stock AT&T ROM.
6) HardSPL Post 1 - Would love to see a line about whether you need to do anything different if you already have a different HardSPL installed.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
Of course, if anyone out there is also honestly willing to help with the underlying problem, I would love for some help ... I just want to get the best radio I can on my phone. If there is a ROM out there which is right for the AT&T Tilt (meaning, the AT&T connectivity settings are correct, and the keyboard is properly mapped), which has a better radio, I would dearly love to know about it.
Thanks for reading.
Re Hard resets.
Most cooked roms require you to do an additional hard reset after the device has been flashed and restarted.
This is simply something that people have learnt from experience.
The only other times you hard reset after:
1) Phone simply won't respond after trying everything
2) You've installed something and it has screwed your settings beyond any chance of recovery
3) Your rom has got cluttered after loads of installs and uninstalls... and you need to "clean" your rom but still want to keep the same one.
(But I agree that "first post" maintenance would be really handy - but the rom chefs are busy cooking - someone else should volunteer to update their first three posts.
OK But to Start all my answers were learned FROM reading and searching. Just FYI.
1) I can't really answer this. I didn't have the write screen problem.
2) If I recall correctly just about the majority of people here use MEdiaNet for their connection. There are a couple people I remember saying that they use the ISP, and they just simply changed the setting manually. If you get it to work, I'd be happy to help you create a CAB for it.
3) Rest assured that even though the Diamond is a new phone if the ROM is posted in the Kaiser Forum. Its "ok to use it on your phone. If you are worried you can wait until a couple people try it and say "This Works great" Then you can look at their signature and see they are using a Kaiser.
4) The most common answer it After a ROM flash right at when you See the "Tap to Begin" Screen.
5) I never Hard Reset after I flash a radio. I flash so much though. People recommend you flash the radio first, I've done it both ways. I Personally don't notice a difference. Questions about What radio will work with Stock AT&T ROMs, Which I believe are still WM 6.0, are toroughly answered in AllTheWays Ultimate radio Thread.
6) That would be nice. Would get more notice by the Ones in the KNow about those things if this qustion was posting in that specific thread.
7) Anyone should feel free to edit and add to the WIKI.
8) IIRC shogunmark's Death is an AT&T Tilt based ROM. But the Tytn II based Roms work fine on the Tilt. You just have to install the Tilt Keyboard Fix and Soft Reset.
jdmba said:
I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
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I too have been a Tilt owner for 8 months, first came across this site last Nov. At that point, the Kaiser forum consisted of speculation on when the Tilt would appear in the US. I was a lurker for 6 months before I joined and posted my first question. Until then I searched ( Forum and Google ) for all my info and never, I mean never did I not find an answer to my questions.
Yes it took time and perseverance but the information was ALWAYS there.I will steadfastly stand here and argue with anyone who says " I searched and found nothing " and tell them " you searched, got bored, it was too much trouble, and you wanted instant gratification ", that is why you are posting. ( Except genuine questions on newly released items ).
That is the real reason why it is so difficult to search. Redundant posts and lazy people who think their time is too valuable to search. Want an example?
JimmyMcGee, over 1000 posts, 0 new threads
Harkadenn, 330 posts over forty new threads, 36 in one month alone, before he finally sold his phone. He had a problem, started a thread
One person, multiply that times 1000 people who think that we should just answer their questions as they come up, and not flame them to search.
I will do the math, 36000 new threads per month, you think it is impossible to search through crap now? It was not always like this, it was made like this.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
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Everyone has the ability to edit the Wiki. The information in this site evolves. ( see the new info about how different Spls affect your phone)The problem with the Wiki is that the people with the info mostly don't use it, the people looking for info do. Do not leave it up to everyone else. Every member has the ability and thus the responsibility to correct or update any information they feel is wrong or misguiding in the Wiki.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
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Yes we were all new at one time. Many of us searched (eight months, 200 posts, 2 new threads ) any too many didn't ( which is why we are talking about this ) . But don't blame the people flaming redundant thread starters( the people padding their post counts as you put it ). The remedy starts with you and me.
Now take the answers you get in this thread and add them to the Wiki for all others.