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can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx
IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.
No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet
Well, I must agree that WM5 slows down your PDA... for me its performance was kind of acceptable, but still noticeably slower. Especially if u install many applications.
I was just curious to see how WM5 looks like on my MDA III and how it works, but I haven't been satisfied with the results (slower and active sync couldn't recognise device)
so I downgraded it back to 2003SE. For now I think I'll wait a bit more to see how things with WM5 and this device will develop.
If u know why and what are u doing than u can try to upgrade, but imho if it ain't broken... :wink:
Re: No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
amulet_es said:
After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet
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I was (really I am who knows if it will arise again) having this same problem. Have made a follow up to the problem and it seems like the error reproduces if you take the battery out of the device.
I was able to have SIM service again (after many attempts) by resseting it.
I thought it was a problem with my SIM (its already 4 years old). Is yous as old as mine?
Please note my device model.
ammar503 said:
can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx
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I think it will depend on the kind of device you own. On my PDA2k (BlueAngel) WM5 runs even faster than 2003SE.
Some minor problems, though... :roll:
Agree with arieltools as my Orange M2000 (ba) runs perfectly acceptable.
vishny said:
IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.
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Hm-m... Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se. I suppose it becomes slow after some software is installed, maybe spb pocketplus 3.0 ore something... It's very important to make some hacks.
I switched registry to file mode, turned off animation and GUI sounds.
For more information try to search forum about tweaks2k2 wm5.
vishny said:
Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se.
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Yep, I agree with that. Just flashed WM5 worked really great for me, but than again, sync didn't work (yep, i could reinstall XP, coz i know that AS will work in that case) and as soon as I upped some software from other pc, WM5 started to sink... Just to explain, applications worked relatively fast when they started, but getting to them (start - programs etc.) was really slow.
If anyone has good performance results with MDA III (T-Mobile) and WM5 (with some applications on it) i would like to hear about that.
Hello everybody,
Could you please tell me what is the best ROM for my qtek 9100? I am crazy !!!!! I am not able to know it?
Thank you in advance.
esfjrg1 said:
Hello everybody,
Could you please tell me what is the best ROM for my qtek 9100? I am crazy !!!!! I am not able to know it?
Thank you in advance.
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Define "best" for us and I'm sure you'll get many suggestions.
If you are looking for Direct Push mail, either of the released AKU2 ROMs will work fine. Who's your carrier?
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
indiekiduk said:
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
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Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
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araje said:
indiekiduk said:
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
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Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
Anup
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it's a long story to tell.
i suggest you search "rom backup" herein and collect all that you need.
huangyz said:
araje said:
Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
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it's a long story to tell.
i suggest you search "rom backup" herein and collect all that you need.
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Thanks huangyz for your reply. My question was very generic since I was still in the deciding stage at that time. I have just finalized my order for Qtek 9100 today. Are you using the updated PushEmail ROM for Qtek ? Hows your experience on the stability. When I spoke to the store guys, 2 of them told me that this version is still unstable. Hows your experience been.
Thanks
araje said:
Thanks huangyz for your reply. My question was very generic since I was still in the deciding stage at that time. I have just finalized my order for Qtek 9100 today. Are you using the updated PushEmail ROM for Qtek ? Hows your experience on the stability. When I spoke to the store guys, 2 of them told me that this version is still unstable. Hows your experience been.
Thanks
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yes,im using the newest 2.17.7.2wwe rom,it's really stable and fast , even with the omapclock set to 240MHz. my Qtek9100 has been running for several days without a restart . think this would be the contribution of the AKU2 thing.
i don't use pushemail, so, no suggest about it.
another thing i must say is that by now i have only the SPB-GPRS-Monitor plugging installed, no other Today-Addons. 'cause i need to confirm which PPC utilities would have a conflict against this new rom. I am planning to install Resco-Explorer this weekend.
Hope this could help you.
as a reference, i
hi there huangyz!
Did you ever try the Qtek Test ROM 2.8.7.1 WWE before going to 2.17.7.2 ? Would you say 2.17 performs better [without Overclocking] than 2.8? I loaded 2.8 because I wanted A2DP for BT and as I understand it 2.17 does not have A2DP, I won't be using Push E-Mail. So I am deciding if I should flash to 2.17 or stay with 2.8 and wait for another ROM.
Just to endorse Huangyz comments, I'm running the new QTEK 2.17.7.2 ROM as well and it's very very stable (I use the OMAP at 240 as well). Am using the SPB Pocket Plus on it with no issues - can't remember the last time it was hanging needing soft reset. For some odd reason I also no longer have issues with Activesync failing every few synchs but that may be unrelated.
you are probably right with it being unrelated. for me I haven't been having AS issues even with the dopod shipped ROM or the Qtek Test ROM. Can you shed some light on performance without Overclocking or would you say that overclocking is a must [I am not sure if I am ready to trade off the device's uptime for a slight increase in performance]. With the Test ROM when I listen to MP3s using BT A2DP and then try to do something else [i.e. compose an sms or type a short note/document]... the device becomes slow as a snail and it is very annoying...
huangyz said:
yes,im using the newest 2.17.7.2wwe rom,it's really stable and fast , even with the omapclock set to 240MHz. my Qtek9100 has been running for several days without a restart . think this would be the contribution of the AKU2 thing.
i don't use pushemail, so, no suggest about it.
another thing i must say is that by now i have only the SPB-GPRS-Monitor plugging installed, no other Today-Addons. 'cause i need to confirm which PPC utilities would have a conflict against this new rom. I am planning to install Resco-Explorer this weekend.
Hope this could help you.
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Hi,
I have heard alot about omapclock and about overclocking the device. I know that it shouldnt be overclocked beyond a specific limit as it may make the device unstable. But, forgive me, I had a very basic question here. What does this omapclock do ? I know it can speed up the device but it will always be at the cost of something isnt it ? So whats the trade-off here.
Hi to all, here goes my First post
Greetings from sunny Europe..
That be one..
As far as Omap. It does exactly to Wizard what overclocking front bus to CPU in PC.
Increases clock frequency that controls the cpu/ and possibly memory.
I am not programmer of this software (omap), but usually a several settings are connected together, like speed of cpu, memory, and possibly of some other subsystem like GPU (graphic card in wizard)
BTW Thanks to guys that made omap, great piece.. i am succesfully using it and clock of 240 is where i start
My current machine(wizard) is SPV M3000 From Orange on latest official Qteq rom.
i have all kinds of observations about it, (both phone and rom) but for now i'll keep it to myself as they ALL (i guess) come from my craze od d/l stuff and installing on my wizard with no brains at all
Thus far (getting back to tradeoffs and performance..)
O/C with omap is a necessity if u want to listen to high quality mp3 and be able to use anything else on wizard.
my experienc is that using pocket music (great mp3 player) with high bit rate mp3 heavy eq applied, completely freezes any action and reaction on wiz. and even turning down volume can take about 5 to 10 seconds after pressing touchscreen..
with omap applied cpu usage drops to around 70% and it behaves ok.
As far as uptime.. i have noticed no difference even with HEAVY overclock.
most battery consuming i think is: 1. WiFi, 2. loud music with high bitrate mp3 and built in speakers, 3. BT, or brightness turned on all the time(no screen saver) .. whatever the rest may be..
So if i am not mistaken cpu in wizard have 2 cores, one for DSP and phone processing, the other one for OS WM5. now i am thinking.. dynamic allocation of unused phone core to main processing power..for the os.?
Mmm 400 mhz for my wizard.. Me likin' it
..that's as far as my dreams go..
Greetings to all and i hope this place stays as cool and essential for all of us.. 4evA
bnycastro said:
hi there huangyz!
Did you ever try the Qtek Test ROM 2.8.7.1 WWE before going to 2.17.7.2 ? Would you say 2.17 performs better [without Overclocking] than 2.8? I loaded 2.8 because I wanted A2DP for BT and as I understand it 2.17 does not have A2DP, I won't be using Push E-Mail. So I am deciding if I should flash to 2.17 or stay with 2.8 and wait for another ROM.
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sure, i try 2.8.7.1WWE-Test for nearly 2weeks. I took no advantage of A2DP because i rarely listen mp3s using my qtek.
i have no impression on this test rom now, except that i had to reset at least once per day.
Thanks for the info. I was wondering if I go with the 2.17 ROM can I downgrade to 2.8.7.1?
I see that we still have a lot problems with w5 on our beloved blue angels.
Now, my question is: what is a major benefit to go from fast and reliable SE 2003 to W 5.0?
it's sluggish, unstable.
so, why we all upgrading-downgrading our devices up and down, is this a justified action to get a better OS or our desire to try something new?
Something new. :wink:
WM5 is a lot better than WM2003 but the problem is that there is no specefic official version of wm5 for blueangel, so developers reverse engineer other versions of WM5 and the leaked one from MS , to create stable OS. Latest WM5 versions are quite stable. None forces you to try WM5 if you don't like it downgrade and use WM2003
it's not about forcing me or someone to use w5.0, but what's better in this OS, what do you mean by saying better ? speed, stability extra functionality ?
I simply like it better
Its like WinMe vs WinXP
Well said TB. Kinda like, why are people instrested in Windows Vista? Windows XP work dunit? Acuttaly, don't answer that one.
Guys, you are talking very subjectivly:
like-don't like.
win me and win xp is quite dif. OS. Upgrading to XP gives us very stable reliable system with much more functionalities.
I simply like to see what extra features are in wm5, which are not available in SE.
so far we have OS with not 100% working BT, MMS, terrible ActiveSync, poor phone, etc.
I am very grateful to guys workimg on these ROMs, and thank them of course, but my question: is wm5 better than SE at all and what this better stuff is?
COM,
flashing OS takes about 15 mins. So, flash WM5, play with it. U can always go back to WM23.
And Wm5 to Wm2 is not like ME to XP. More like Win2K vs Win2K+service packs.
Well for me its a Me vs XP (My SE kept crashing and crashing, doublesending the same SMS, not sending MMSes at all, freezing when cancelling calls). WM5 drops Bluetooth connections, does strange things with the hw keyboard and works quite slow (I overclocked the CPU to 531MHz, it works... usable). But at least I can use my PHONE as a PHONE.
I agree with TB
I have many problems with 2003SE, 3-4 daily resets, because it hangs, when the battery and backup battery drains out you loose everything(such as in hard reset). I have no such problems with WM5 it is much stable and it is slower than 2003 but in the recent WM5 roms (Ivan's and Tuatara) the speed is improved and stability is much better than 2003SE
I like WM5 because it looks better, and the soft keys are very usefull. and you get to show off the nice and hard work of Mamaich, Tuatara and all others and say that xda-dev kicks ass!!!!
well, from what you are saying: wm5 is more stable !
Thanks, this is an advantage no doubt. let's hope we will soon get the final version from our gurus here.
By the way, should wm5 be a hardware independent OS, like windows XP and portable from one PDA to another?
Better not - due to XP's portability it eats up so much resources :| If you wanna try it yourself - Linux for example compiles (is compiled ) in order to match the HW configuration of the computer, while WindowsXP 'HasItAll, but mostly unusefull for your current hardware' :|
A new OS, which prevents your data from loss even at significant battery discharge, comfortable control without a stylus, improved Office Mobile. Noticeable cosmetic advantages.
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Will there every be a BA Official WM5 release
no, microsoft made one and distrobuted it to the telecos but it is there decision whether to release it. as far as i can tell they will never do this as it doesn't make buisiness sense, why give a free wm5 update away when if you keep it too yourself people are gonna buy a new phone to get it?
but.. we are keeping our phones anyway hehehehe :twisted:
(that's why we are on this phorum. Anyway..)
Hi,
I am using O2 XDA IIs for more than 8 months. I eagerly waited for the O2 update, as HP had offered to its ipaqs.But it was very disappointing that , instead of giving software updates; o2 started to show new models with Windows Mobile 5.0. I tried even from Microsoft site for upgrades, but that was a futile attempt.Then I finally decided to upgrade from XDA-developres.
You have to understand that major advantafe of WM5 over the Wm2003se is that data is not volatile; so there is no need to backup now and then.Secondly fast and secure.The major problem is that it needs faster processor. I hope it is helpful.
Kalonian said:
Secondly fast and secure.The major problem is that it needs faster processor
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WM5 is slower than WM2003SE. WM5 best offering is persistent storage.
It is because it has NAND based rom. So, it doesnt offer XIP
Yes it is a lil slower than 2003 but it hte rom is properly build (Ivan and Tuatara roms) you will find no diference for speed, bu you will find a lot more stability. The CPU is not so important, we see devices with 200 MHz CPU to run WM5 just fine (Prophet and Wizard), of course they have a lil problems with multitasking but thay have only 200 MHz CPU, so you have to expect some lag. Blueangel have more than enough resources to run and operate WM5, we just need a properly tweaked rom for this device.
There is internet phone function in WM6, so I like to upgrade my mda in order to use Gizmo project. If I upgrade it, will the system be very slow for the MDA with only 200 mhz CPU?
Well Its Your Choice
Well, trying is ever the development thingy issues... too much roms for try right here
with the lasts releases i cant see the difference between wm6.1 and wm5
Most of the programs that runs on wm5 runs too in wm 6 and wm6.1
but please... read everything before do everything... ask wathever you want. to avoid brick youir device
I know, there is a lot to read, thank you!
SO which is the most stable rom for 6.1 with internet phone?
hey everybody!
is there any way to make the wizard faster?
do you know any good programm for it?
or is there a possebilety to use another cpu? but that would be hard work and i have to know a lot about that then right?
so yea? is there just any way to make the pda faster?
i have windows mobile 6.1
thanks
Overclocking 8125/Wizard
well, honestly, There is no possible way to exchange the processor in the Wizard, However you can you a old program for windows mobile phones called "Omap clock" This will allow you to overclock the Wizard from 195 MHz to 240 MHz or so, not a super difference in speed but to me it makes the difference between using the device, or just upgrading to another. After i found this site ill never get rid of my G3 Wiza 100.