Hi,
Before doing anything silly (up-dating ROM) with my Wizard (SVP-M3000 from Orange France), I would like to make sure I understand a few think about the ROM.
I have read a lot of posts concerning extended ROM, big storage ROM or simply ROM.
I guess we are speaking of FLASH or EEPROM.
My questions are listed below:
1. How many ROM storage (FLASH, EEPROM) is there on a Wizard (for the GSM, for the OS, for extra storage)?
2. I have read a PDF about back-up of the Big Storage ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=7002); it seems the only ROM to save is the extended ROM; could you please confirm?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Marc
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Hi guys.. I keep reading your beautiful forum everyday, learning some...
As TheLastOne says, one must do a fresh install after a new ROM upgrading, avoiding the backup to overwrite some file of the old Rom.
My question is... is there a way to restore programs anddevice settings (like buttons config,rings,passwords,network settings etc) withouth making conflicts? I was thinking about a backup software that only saves custom elements.. do anybody know a way to do it? Thanks a lot. :?:
PS I read the post from Happygoat about CABs...is very tricky for me...I hope ther is a easyer solution!!!
There are two programs out there that make decent backups...
1. Sprite Software
2. SunnySoft Backup Manager
Both can be customized to only backup personal data, such as phone number database, etc.
To backup settings, the only way is to make your own cab.
What you do not want to do, is to backup everything, including the registry, and restore it after a ROM upgrade...!
These backups are nice to have if your ROMs stay the same...but if you upgrade/change ROMs, and restore such a backup, your PDA could become unstable. This has to do with the fact that the ROM update uses its resources and registry different, and writes programmes differently.
Hope that clears up things for you.
Thank for clear and fast reply @ HappyGoat..
So I will wait for a definitive "guide" from you about registry and settings CAB saving and try out the softwares u mencioned..by the way those sw save and restore also programs relative registration passwords?
I have made a full backup file on my storage card of my registry with PMH, now I think to do the follow:
1) backup all programs and data with Sprite software on sd card
2) upgrade to new rom and hard reset the device
3) reinstall PMH and restore registry
4) reinstall Sprite and restore programs and data
5) ... it will be ok ? I hope so because I really don't understand how to follow step 2 from HappyGoat guide
Thanks for pacience.. (TheLastOne...can you give an opinion..?)
Vicer,
Check this below link from Sprite Software for your Sprite backup.
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=66&back=browse.aspx#p24
I can confirm that you can successfully backup after a ROM upgrade and you wont lose any new ROM functionality after restore. I have tried this with various ROM upgrade and it works. Follow the instructions and every thing will be fine. However one thing you should note that when you restore from the old rom and if the program get stuck at one point, then dont feel afraid just soft reset and restore again. Remember that if your restore is finished with out any warnings it means that it is restored perfectly.
I hope this helps and if you need any information then please let me know.
Hemant.
Thanks a lot Hemant..I will try soon!!!
Thanks Hemant, I've been looking for this answer for a long time!
Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
tambeng said:
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Unfortunately I had many problems after the restore with Sprite...I reinstalled all from scratch and now is all ok (unless I downgraded radio to 1.10 that is more stable in my opinion) Ref your question... I'm not an expert but I read the wiki everyday...and:
1) follow the getdevicedata procedure to know your original SHIP rom.
2) find on the xda ftp site the one that mactch exactely with your data
3) you dont need more to dump your Rom!! anyway on the forum you can search for "dump rom on sd card" to find the answer to your original question. Hope this helped..byez
hi, i have got few questions reagrding upgrading rom.
i ahev been reading this forum for a week or so in order to choose best Rom and upgarde my wizard. right now i am using t-mobile rom which was preinstaled on my device.
i am really confused with this whole rom upgrading.
1.Does Rom contain extrom and radio rom ?
2.if i changemy rom will i change only my rom or extrom as well ?
3. can i upgrade only my rom and leave the extrom as it is ?
4. if after hard reste i will perform soft rest before device try to instal costimization will i have all the application insatled like word, msn ect. or do i have to instal them on my own ?
5.whicih rom, extrom and radio rom do u recomand.
sorry for being newbe
cheers, matt
cudo said:
hi, i have got few questions reagrding upgrading rom.
i ahev been reading this forum for a week or so in order to choose best Rom and upgarde my wizard. right now i am using t-mobile rom which was preinstaled on my device.
i am really confused with this whole rom upgrading.
1.Does Rom contain extrom and radio rom ?
2.if i changemy rom will i change only my rom or extrom as well ?
3. can i upgrade only my rom and leave the extrom as it is ?
4. if after hard reste i will perform soft rest before device try to instal costimization will i have all the application insatled like word, msn ect. or do i have to instal them on my own ?
5.whicih rom, extrom and radio rom do u recomand.
sorry for being newbe
cheers, matt
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Here's my take:
1. Sometimes. You have to understand what you have before you download. Each string of posts generally refers to different ROMs. Until lately, the ROMs were the whole package (bootloader, Core OS, Phone and Ext ROM). Most folks want the latest OS possible, but want the phone part from an older ROM, so in some cases the phone part of the ROM has been split out as a separate installation. In other cases, Ext ROMs have been undated and distributed by themselves.
2. Depends on what ROM you've got. If you have the all-in-one type, everything gets wiped out and upgraded. Even if you do a backup, chances are its no good because the backup was for the old OS and is incompatible with the new OS. If you install just a phone or Ext ROM, the core OS and all your settings SHOULD be left alone. However just this week some goob couldn't run the right files in the Phone upgrade and nearly bricked his phone, then pissed all over the other guy trying to help...(reference the Great KeithT Rant of '06)
3. Assume you're talking about upgrading the Core OS and leaving the Ext ROM as is. Don't know of a way to do this--it hasn't been mentioned as a possibility in the Wizard upgrade forum in the past few months AFAIK. I think this is highly unlikely anyway, as the Core OS ROM is really in charge of everything. You'll want the match the Ext ROM with whatever Cell provider you have, and there are more than enough all-in-one ROMs to suit nearly every carrier. I'd suggest searching: "T-Mobile ROM upgrade" or whatever provider you have to get a Core OS/Phone/ExtROM all together.
4. Many applications are included in the Core OS ROM, like pocket Word, Excel, mail, etc. I think MSN is included in the Ext ROM, but not sure. Anyway, just got to try it and find out!
5. This is a little tougher. I recommend the latest Core OS matched with an Ext ROM for your cell provider. There is some debate over the best phone ROMs (see recent posts in this forum) depending on the towers in your area. Note, the latest Core OS doesn't necessarily have the highest version number. Someone leaked a Cingular ROM v2.25, then another TMo ROM v2.24 was actually a later build. Diff providers have different numbering schemes.
Good luck, read a bunch, and feel a little comfortable with what you're doing before you leap. Lots of folks here will help if you get in trouble, but be expected not have your head up your arse before asking for help!
I had a lot of fun with Rom Kitchen when I had an original XDA (Siemens Branded)
Now I have a Wizard (Cingular 8125), and it's behaving funky. Since it's time for yet-another-fresh-install to clean things up, I thought I'd check the status here, and see if it was rom-kitchen time again.
Basically, I have a few desires:
1) To put some of the common aps I use into rom (iSilo, rdcalc, a sudoku game or two, and spb backup / utils)
2) Hopefully with the above aps installed, I won't have to spend as much time reloading / restoring from a backup.
3) WM6 -- should i? It would at least be worth a try.
So -- onto my questions: I've read a bit, and can follow the unlocking steps, etc, but -- I don't see any easy rom kitchen links. Does it still exist? Do people use something else instead? I see the pre-packaged roms -- but I have to ask: Why bother? If you're not upgrading to WM6, do the make that much difference?
And, are there any reasons *to* upgrade to WM6? Are WM5 apps mostly compatiable?
Thanks in advance,
-Dave
Anyone? Bueller?
Check WM6 or G4 sections. You'll find a LOT of cooked ROMs and some kitchens. Also look in main forum "Development and Hacking"
Another suggestion if you're 8125 is acting funky is to flash back to an original shipped ROM for a clean start. I've also noticed in some of the threads that spb pgms seems to cause some probs. Maybe look at them as well. But certainly go back to a "clean start"
Do you mean, instead of doing a hard-reset, reload the official rom? (It's running the official Cingular rom right now).
Hello,
Is there any proven method to backup the existing rom to a form of files like the Updated ROM (nk.nbf,RUU,etc.)?
I would like to preserve my original wm5 ROM since it contains Payed application i can't re-register.
After backing up-it will be WM6
Thanks
Roy
im looking for the same thing too
because i want to try out other roms but i have alot of stuff on my current phone
i know theres a utility that will backup to the minisd card and your able to back it up later
no luck yet
im still searching the forum and google though
No, for most backup applications, you can't restore a WM5 software backup to WM6 device, otherwise weird incompatibility will be happened (such as crashing Contacts)
Yes ! very true,there wud be a incompatibility issue,however if you backup your wm5 rom on a Sdcard,that is also only possible if you have a CID unlocked device,then in time of any emergency,you can reflash it back to your phone,through Sdcard method to restore it back in working condition,but all you applications or programs in wm5 cannot be restored back to wm6 OS.
Cheers
Thanks for you help,
my thoughts were to keep the original ROM for selling this device..
Roy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
This is the way to make a copy of your current ROM of the Wizard to a SD card.
As stated above this does NOT include any application or data you add yourself to your Wizard but only those apps that comes along with the ROM in the first place.
This should be just fine to have a backup of your current WM5 but does not help to "preserve" any paid applications you installed yourself neither your contacts etc.
Good luck!
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I've searched at the forum but couldn't find a good answerd for my question.
I got a Vodafone NL X1 it's currently on the Vodafone R2 release but i want to change it to the generic release(hate the vodafone crap). So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
Hope someone can help me
thanks in advanced,
killer8nl said:
So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
thanks in advanced,
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My 2c worth:
a) official ROM's have SPL in them, so you don't need hardSPL to flash these
b) regarding "restore after ROM change", in reverse order:
if you restore a full backup from your existing installation after a ROM change, it will obviously restore all that is currently there - including the Vodaphone fluff
both Spb and Sprite offer "full restore after ROM change" options - however, registry changes from one ROM to the next make this risky. Most cooks will advise against it
Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update
SPB restore can let you choose what to restore, the necessary things will be contacts, sms, email and documents, you can skip the programs, registry and other non personal things, but like this you will need to reinstall all programs and configure them from scratch
killer8nl said:
Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update
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Yes, that's the technically correct way.
After you've upgraded the ROM and re-installed all your apps, (say) weekly Spb or Sprite backups for a full restore are obviously viable. I've been doing this for about 5 years now - saved my bacon more than once.
Still, I agree that re-installing all the apps after a ROM upgrade is a real pain in the butt. People who change ROM's constantly must have another day phone on the side
I tried to update the generic NL R2A rom from my vodafone NL R2A phone but it doesn't work. It keep saying "No image file!".
I also got another question. Is it really necessairy to format my ms before flashing. Because I only got the hancock ms and it said not to be working again when I format the ms. Thats why I didn't format the ms yet and only tried without formatting.
I have read almost all tutorials but all said I must use the hard-spl but other forums posts said I don't need when using a official rom. Anyone can help me a bit further please?
Regards,