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How to..make a full bckup on new ROM without problems

Hi guys.. I keep reading your beautiful forum everyday, learning some...
As TheLastOne says, one must do a fresh install after a new ROM upgrading, avoiding the backup to overwrite some file of the old Rom.
My question is... is there a way to restore programs anddevice settings (like buttons config,rings,passwords,network settings etc) withouth making conflicts? I was thinking about a backup software that only saves custom elements.. do anybody know a way to do it? Thanks a lot. :?:
PS I read the post from Happygoat about CABs...is very tricky for me...I hope ther is a easyer solution!!!

There are two programs out there that make decent backups...
1. Sprite Software
2. SunnySoft Backup Manager
Both can be customized to only backup personal data, such as phone number database, etc.
To backup settings, the only way is to make your own cab.
What you do not want to do, is to backup everything, including the registry, and restore it after a ROM upgrade...!
These backups are nice to have if your ROMs stay the same...but if you upgrade/change ROMs, and restore such a backup, your PDA could become unstable. This has to do with the fact that the ROM update uses its resources and registry different, and writes programmes differently.
Hope that clears up things for you.

Thank for clear and fast reply @ HappyGoat..
So I will wait for a definitive "guide" from you about registry and settings CAB saving and try out the softwares u mencioned..by the way those sw save and restore also programs relative registration passwords?
I have made a full backup file on my storage card of my registry with PMH, now I think to do the follow:
1) backup all programs and data with Sprite software on sd card
2) upgrade to new rom and hard reset the device
3) reinstall PMH and restore registry
4) reinstall Sprite and restore programs and data
5) ... it will be ok ? I hope so because I really don't understand how to follow step 2 from HappyGoat guide
Thanks for pacience.. (TheLastOne...can you give an opinion..?)

Vicer,
Check this below link from Sprite Software for your Sprite backup.
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=66&back=browse.aspx#p24
I can confirm that you can successfully backup after a ROM upgrade and you wont lose any new ROM functionality after restore. I have tried this with various ROM upgrade and it works. Follow the instructions and every thing will be fine. However one thing you should note that when you restore from the old rom and if the program get stuck at one point, then dont feel afraid just soft reset and restore again. Remember that if your restore is finished with out any warnings it means that it is restored perfectly.
I hope this helps and if you need any information then please let me know.
Hemant.

Thanks a lot Hemant..I will try soon!!!

Thanks Hemant, I've been looking for this answer for a long time!

Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?

Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Anyone?

Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
tambeng said:
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Unfortunately I had many problems after the restore with Sprite...I reinstalled all from scratch and now is all ok (unless I downgraded radio to 1.10 that is more stable in my opinion) Ref your question... I'm not an expert but I read the wiki everyday...and:
1) follow the getdevicedata procedure to know your original SHIP rom.
2) find on the xda ftp site the one that mactch exactely with your data
3) you dont need more to dump your Rom!! anyway on the forum you can search for "dump rom on sd card" to find the answer to your original question. Hope this helped..byez

Full ROM Backup

Hi All!
I'm newbie here. Please, don't beat me for my question .
I've got Qtek 9100, and now want to play with ROM. BUT! I read a lot of here, and haven't found the Full ROM Backup programm. Is it possible? Or, the only way to backup my original ROM partly, using aWizard?
Thanks for any help.

The aWizard tools do Backup all of the rom except bootloader.
BUT: The ExtROM is backuped in single files which is a problem when you want to insert the ExtROM back into the Wizard: because with the newer ROMs (1.6.x) the ExtROM can only be made visible (and stays read-only).

full rom backup
addr You can backup full ROM to SD card, and then to your PC.
Click my signature to get the tool.

Ah, great!
That's the very thing i was looking for!
Thanks Button!

addr said:
... i can't upload my ROM to SD Card, after entering r2sd all i got:
Cmd>r2sd all
***** user area size = 0x1E980000 Bytes
R2SDBackup() - Download type = 6
usTotalBlock = 1 sizeof(SDCARD_SIGNATRUE_TABLE)=512
You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image
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Sorry, it was a bug in my command file, so CID-unlocking was failed.
Now everything works fine. Please, re-download the tool (click my signature).

I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...
After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?
Thanks!
Joe

lanerebel said:
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...
After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?
Thanks!
Joe
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the data backup in your mini-sd-card is not FAT compliant. but it's OK for restoring using Qtek's rom-flash procedure.
in another way, you can use tools like WinHex to view,edit or save your mini-SD to a PC as a raw binary file.

lanerebel said:
I tried using your backup for my ROM, because I was going to upgrade. I'm definitely a newbie at ROM upgrading and backing up...
After running the backup utility, my Qtek won't see my mini-sd card anymore. Do you know how I can make it see my card again? Did the process reformat my card or is there another problem?
Thanks!
Joe
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If you have already saved your ROM image to PC (myrom.bin file), you can format SD card, and use it as always.

Um, I have a noobie question as well...
Will a full ROM backup take a backup up of everything installed after being shipped from the manufacturer, i.e. programs, reg settings etc., or will it only backup the basic ROM and extended ROM, i.e. what you're left with when you hard reset your device?

the_invisigoth Yes, only ROM, not installed apps.

Hi Button,
Does your program backup the whole ROM (ie OS + Extended) or just the OS??
Is there a way to backup the OS only so that I can backup the latest Qtek OS part only. Reload my T-mobile extended ROM then restore the Qtek OS only ROM, giving me the latest OS with my T-mobile customisation??
Cheers
John

odyseus said:
Hi Button,
Does your program backup the whole ROM (ie OS + Extended) or just the OS??
John
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It backups Full ROM = OS+ExR+Radio+SPL/IPL+Splash..
Use aWizard to backup your ROM partly.

I needed Button's program before I updated to 2.8.7. I have a cingular 8125 I upgraded to 2.8.7 it overwrote my extended ROM, when I flashed everything back from awizard I relaized my extended ROM was not restored, so I flashed to 1.5.4 so I could access the extended ROM, but it downgraded my IPL and SPL to 1.?? from 2.??. So once I restored my extended ROM in 1.5.4 I upgraded just the OS to 1.8.11 from my original backup, and now when I do a hardreset it locks up during extended ROM installation. Unless I can find a way to edit the extended ROM on 2.8.7 I wont be able to restore my unit to original specs. Unless someone uses Buttons program on a Cingular 8125 and uploads it somewhere for me. I am gonna return this unit to frys and purchase it at the cingular store for a bit cheaper price. So I was hoping to restore it to orignal specs so the next helpless frys customer dosent get stuck wth a funky unit. Thanks all!

@Button,
would this method allow me to replace my 8125 to its original state including the bootloader flash screen ? i am needing to put my 8125 to its original state prior to returning.
I have a new 8125 that i could take a backup of and want to load it onto the one that i am returning. would this work ? thank you

Yes it should work.

Button,
does your program also perform restoral of ROM and all its content from the backup it's made ?
thanks for your help.

FarSeide said:
Button,
does your program also perform restoral of ROM and all its content from the backup it's made ?
thanks for your help.
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It can backup only 'clear' ROM, without programms that you have installed manually.

THANK YOU BUTTON !!!!
I was able to FULLY RESTORE my Cingular 8125 to its OEM Spec including the first boot splash screen !!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!

I spoke too soon.
Here's what happens...
After 8125 has been booted up, on the screen it says, "Data Crashes. Please contact your service Provider". And if you see on the top left corner, it says SIM LOCK. It will not let me reload the image again from the SD card from the bootloader. When I press the Voice Dial, it says, No Update Allow!.
I've tried to run the aWizard and Lokitz tool to unlock again but to no avail.
Have you seen thsi before ?

First, try to flash an old rom (from bootloader mode), - run any ruu. Then, unlock SIM and CID, if it is need. And then use SD card to restore your original rom.

How can I COMPLETELY backup my factory ROM?

Hi,
I want to upgrade my Wizard to WM6 but want to backup/save my original factory rom, the one that came with the phone when I bought it aka the one that Cingular installed just in case I need to revert. I looked everywhere for this issue before posting but did not find a clear answer. I saw that you can backup to mini SD but once again, the instructions were not clear. What I essentially want to do is, backup the original ROM and in case I do not like one of the WM6 roms (hard to believe), I would revert back to the original rom. Can anyone out there provide a clear answer and if so, provide instructions? I know some people have done it with something called "mtty" but I have no knowledge of this program and therefore, do not know how to use it. Thanks in advance for your time and your help!!

If you dont understand how to use MTTY to backup your rom to sd card, then simply go onto the cingular site and download the rom for your device.
Then backup all your data with active sync(XP) or Windows mobile device center(VISTA). Install Sprite backup and use it to backup all data on your phone. it will be a trial version, but it enables you to make backups and restore them, even when the trial has expired you can still restore the backups you just cant make any more new backups unless you buy it.
then make sure your device is cid unlocked and download the WM6 rom you want to try and flash it, if you dont like WM6 you can reinstall the cingular rom and restore the backup you made using sprint backup.
Major note You CANNOT restore a FULL backup that you made from your cingular rom onto the WM6 rom, if you do, the device wont boot and you will have to reflash again.
You can restore a partial backup though ,of say your messages and PIM data and any files in my documents but do not try to restore the windows files.
Hope this helps
Oh i forgot to mention, it is a Pain in the arse trying to flash cooked roms in Vista, so if you have Vista i would recommend using an XP machine to flash, flashing original roms works fine in Vista though

I see, thanks for answering man. That helps.

Sprite backup

i just flashed my Tilt from ATT wm6 to HTC wm6.1
I created a backup file on Sprite Backup. Now i want to restore it and it says that it can cause significant problems if i restore from a different ROM. And wants me to select a Device Upgrade File. Where do i find a Device Upgrade File?

You shouldn't do upgrades from ROM to ROM (especially if it's from 5 to 6 or 6 to 6.1). There's a whole new registry usually and a lot of different things. Just add the program files back and stuff like that, but not the registry. Better yet, reinstall everything manually.

Okay, darn. lol
Now Im learning.
Thanks

starclassic said:
i just flashed my Tilt from ATT wm6 to HTC wm6.1
I created a backup file on Sprite Backup. Now i want to restore it and it says that it can cause significant problems if i restore from a different ROM. And wants me to select a Device Upgrade File. Where do i find a Device Upgrade File?
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Just thought i'd share, the latest version of SPB backup does let you
restore after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode) & also restore a backup on another device (device upgrade mode)
here's the link: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Cheers.

The Reaper said:
Just thought i'd share, the latest version of SPB backup does let you
restore after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode) & also restore a backup on another device (device upgrade mode)
here's the link: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Cheers.
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Warning: spb does not yet fully support WM6.1 for his Backup. With Kaiser (WM6.1) it does not work properly (lot of device hangs).

I Think its bricked
I when ahead and downloaded the new rom with WM6.1 for the ATT TILTfrom the HTC website and did everything to the bone and used sprite backup to backup my files but upon restoring them, my screen just boots through att logo and then shows the flying 3G symbols and then blank screen. I can get to the boot loader and but when I try to reflash my phone, using hard spl it says it cannot find my phone. I have spl 3.56 on my phone. Can anyone help me?

When you're in bootloader mode, just flash to the stock ROM and you should be fine.

Thanx all!
I just want to say thanx to everyone who responded and great thanx or asfoor for the wonderful solution for this problem which can be found here.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348659

Change rom and restore backup

I've searched at the forum but couldn't find a good answerd for my question.
I got a Vodafone NL X1 it's currently on the Vodafone R2 release but i want to change it to the generic release(hate the vodafone crap). So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
Hope someone can help me
thanks in advanced,

killer8nl said:
So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
thanks in advanced,
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My 2c worth:
a) official ROM's have SPL in them, so you don't need hardSPL to flash these
b) regarding "restore after ROM change", in reverse order:
if you restore a full backup from your existing installation after a ROM change, it will obviously restore all that is currently there - including the Vodaphone fluff
both Spb and Sprite offer "full restore after ROM change" options - however, registry changes from one ROM to the next make this risky. Most cooks will advise against it

Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update

SPB restore can let you choose what to restore, the necessary things will be contacts, sms, email and documents, you can skip the programs, registry and other non personal things, but like this you will need to reinstall all programs and configure them from scratch

killer8nl said:
Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update
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Yes, that's the technically correct way.
After you've upgraded the ROM and re-installed all your apps, (say) weekly Spb or Sprite backups for a full restore are obviously viable. I've been doing this for about 5 years now - saved my bacon more than once.
Still, I agree that re-installing all the apps after a ROM upgrade is a real pain in the butt. People who change ROM's constantly must have another day phone on the side

I tried to update the generic NL R2A rom from my vodafone NL R2A phone but it doesn't work. It keep saying "No image file!".
I also got another question. Is it really necessairy to format my ms before flashing. Because I only got the hancock ms and it said not to be working again when I format the ms. Thats why I didn't format the ms yet and only tried without formatting.
I have read almost all tutorials but all said I must use the hard-spl but other forums posts said I don't need when using a official rom. Anyone can help me a bit further please?
Regards,