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How to Downgrade Your Wizard (STEP BY STEP) Instruction

Hey Guys....
I am still working on this DIY but this is how I was able to accomplish reverting back to my OEM Cingular 8125 state.
If someone could plase let me know how to replace the very first SPLASH Screen from "HTC" to CINGULAR, I would greatly appreciate it.
By following the steps below, you will have almost everything back to its original state.
Be sure to download all the necessary ROM files: OS ROM, Radio ROM, splash.bin
Place your OS ROM and Radio ROM inside the c:\sWizard\ROM folder.
DOWNGRADE YOUR OS AND RADIO ROM
1. Download aWizard 1.3b Beta Version (Attached File or Latest Version) from the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386&highlight=awizard
2. Unzip the folder to your root directory (C:\aWizard or D:\aWizard). You need to avoid having spaces your directory name. This is the reason placing folder in the root.
3. Make sure you have an active connection via Active Sync.
4. Run the aWizard.cmd file from C:\aWizard
5. Run "e" command FIRST !
6. Run "u" command. Your Wizard will reboot.
7. Run "w" command to update your ROM. You will get a prompt to choose your ROM. If you did not place a valid ROM inside the ROM folder, then you wont see it from this list. Also, if you placed your aWizard in other directory with spaces (i.e C:\ MY DOCUMENT) then you wont see it either. Just let it run. It will take close to 20 minutes. At the end, it will as you to hard reset.
8. Run "r" command to update your Radio ROM. Same as Step 7.
Replacing Splash Screen (Back to Cingular)
1. Place the splash.bin file inside the c:\aWizard\lib
2. Open up CMD and navigate to c:\aWizard\lib
3. Type in the following command "pdocwrite.exe -n 1 splash.bin 0x002d0000"
pdocwrite.exe = this program is located inside the LIB folder
splash.bin is a file that I converted.
4. Once completed, please reset your Wizard and now you will have Cingular's Splash (2nd Splash)
Updating the EXT ROM
1. I did this manually by utilizing Active Sync to copy over all the Cingular ROMs to the Wizard and running it individually.
2. Reset and you will now have all the programs Wizard came with.
FAQ
Q. My Wizard is stuck on a splash screen and it wont do anything.
1. Hard reset your Wizard
2. Hold onto Camera Button while turning on the Wizard and you will get the boot screen.
3. Plug in your USB Cable
4. Run one of the known ROM files with .exe extention. When this happened to me while downgrading,
I had to reload the latest iMate ROM.
5. Start the downgrade process again by following the above instruction.

reverting back to original cingular rom
Thank you for this.
Don't you have to REINSTALL original Cingular Rom or does this do that by removing imate updated ROM?
js

Re: reverting back to original cingular rom
urologyhealth said:
Thank you for this.
Don't you have to REINSTALL original Cingular Rom or does this do that by removing imate updated ROM?
js
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When you install Cingular ROM, it will remove/overwrite the existing iMate ROM.
Be sure to place your ROM files in the the ROM folder.

If your running the aku2 imate rom, many people will have problems running awizard or lokiwiz to unlock the CID, I had to run the tmo uk rom update (.exe one) which replaced the imate, and then restore the rom files I had backed up for cingular, although the extended rom is still locked, thats annoying.

jvanbrecht said:
If your running the aku2 imate rom, many people will have problems running awizard or lokiwiz to unlock the CID, I had to run the tmo uk rom update (.exe one) which replaced the imate, and then restore the rom files I had backed up for cingular, although the extended rom is still locked, thats annoying.
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can you please share how you change the very first splash screen on your 8125 ? its the only thing i wasnt able to do or know how to do.
thanks

FarSeide, I'm pretty sure that even the stock 8125's from Cingular showed the HTC screen first, the cingular screen second, and finally the Windows Mobile screen. If that's the case, then your 8125 is as good as new as far as Cingular is concerned.
Also, if anyone upgraded to the AKU2 I-mate ROM, you cannot do the process you described, because (as someone else mentioned) the lokiwiz program will not work. What you need to do is FIRST install a different ROM using an exe file (a good example would be the leaked AKU2 Q-Tek ROM exe file), and only after that entire upgrade process is completed, can you now use lokiwiz to unlock the SuperCID and install the Cingular ROM.

kingbear2 said:
FarSeide, I'm pretty sure that even the stock 8125's from Cingular showed the HTC screen first, the cingular screen second, and finally the Windows Mobile screen. If that's the case, then your 8125 is as good as new as far as Cingular is concerned.
Also, if anyone upgraded to the AKU2 I-mate ROM, you cannot do the process you described, because (as someone else mentioned) the lokiwiz program will not work. What you need to do is FIRST install a different ROM using an exe file (a good example would be the leaked AKU2 Q-Tek ROM exe file), and only after that entire upgrade process is completed, can you now use lokiwiz to unlock the SuperCID and install the Cingular ROM.
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Eli,
thank you for the info. I wanted to put this together because when I tired to do this, there were information but scattered all over all forums. just wanted to help others so that they dont go through the same thing i did.

i was following these instructions and i got a
NOTIFICATION ERROR
cannot execute repllog.exe
so what i had to do was hard reset, boot screen , re-installed imate, ...
i guess i will try it again, what do you guys think

hmmm... sorry to say but my 8125 only ever showed the cingular splash. No HTC, no WinMob. I had assumed that Cingular somehow replaced all 3 splash screen with theirs.... In fact, I never even knew there was more than one splash screen until I upgraded to the Qtek rom.

I'm in trouble
I tried to downgrade the ROM and now I'm hung in the i-Mate SPLASH SCREEN. I tried the hard reset and it hangs every time. I can't get a connection through active sync obviously so what are my options. How can I get a working device.
I'm freaking out.
Please HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: I'm in trouble
hellomoto_25 said:
I tried to downgrade the ROM and now I'm hung in the i-Mate SPLASH SCREEN. I tried the hard reset and it hangs every time. I can't get a connection through active sync obviously so what are my options. How can I get a working device.
I'm freaking out.
Please HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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relax... i was exactly where you were...
first, hard reset your device.
Hold the Com Manager, Voice Command and press the soft reset with your stylus.
before you turn the device back on, hold the camera button then turn on the power. you will receive the boot screen. Plug in your USB Cable and kick off the EXE file. Load one of the known ROMS like the iMate ROM.
reload and try again. I am willing to bet that you disconnected the USB Cable while updating to Cingular ROM.
Good luck and dont worry.

does anyone have the exe for the original Cingular ROM ?
my colleague tried to update his 8125 with my imate rom.....and did not unlock it first.
all he has is the bootloader now, the update gives the well known Error: Invalid Vender ID
Any help is greatly appreciated
Thanks !!

Get a copy of the proper ROM on a SD card, and reload it that way.
This is the easiest way out of that box......

Thanks,
but how to get the Rom reloaded from the SD card onto the device using the bootloader ?

dirty_harry said:
Thanks,
but how to get the Rom reloaded from the SD card onto the device using the bootloader ?
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THAT part is easy.
Note that the SD card image is NOT a file. You have to raw write it onto the card, which will destroy the filesystem - so back up the card first! psdwrite will do the job. You also need the image (PREVIOUSLY copied from a SD-made backup with "psdREAD")
To restore it, insert the card, hold the CAMERA button, and power on. The phone will tell you to press VOICE to restore the SD image (it looks to see if there's a valid one in there)
Note that with 1.x bootloaders this will happen with the BACKLIGHT OFF, and you only have 3 seconds or so to press the key - so have a flashlight handy. 2.x bootloaders turn the backlight ON.
Hit VOICE. The image will be verified (checksummed) and if it is good, it will be loaded.
That's it. Takes about 2-3 minutes. When it finishes it will tell you to press any key, and when you do you'll end up at the tricolor screen.
Power off and back on, and the phone will cold boot the new image.
This will work even if you can't run an RUU loader, so long as you can get that first prompt up. It is a VERY effective rescue method.
IMHO before you hack on the firmware in these things you should make an SD card backup just for this reason.

Which tools is best option for ROM backup to Mini SD?
Hi,
Just read your message about writing ROM to Mini SD card.
I'd like to do just that.
I want one or two ROM's for safekeeping stored somewhere instead only a backup or official copy on my pc.
As i've read restoring from SD is safer and faster..
I don't intend to use the SD card for anything more than just that.
In the Prodigy Service Manual (Prodigy Service Manual -XA(0813-2005).pdf) HTC uses mtty.exe. There are also instructions in the PDF.
Since HTC uses this, it should do exactly what i want, i guess?
Or is there a better tool?
Thanks,
Allegro.
P.S: Will a restored ROM from Mini-SD look fresh to HTC?
Or will they see it's a self restored copy instead of a official HTC restore?
Will it reset "everything"?

I was able to fully restore CIngular 8125 ROM, EXTROM, All Splash Images using the SD Restore.
100 Cingular OEM Spec has been restored...

I hv updated T Mo custom ROM..but now can't downgrade even by Awizard utils....can any one throw some light on this?

Can't connect with AS (Install a new ROM via my SD card)

Hi,
Can I install a new ROM via my SD card because I cannot connect to Active Sync? I've been searching for hours but still can't fix my problem.
I tried to upgrade the radio rom only, but after that there is no radio version, no phone or internet, system on MDA is VERY slow, and I can't connect to active sync.
I can get bootloader up, but I cannot install the stock rom I downloaded from this site, because i can't connect with active sync. I've tried to copy it to an SD card and install from there, but that doesn't work either. In bootloader I do not have USB at bottom left on my screen.
only
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03
Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
Thanks in advance!!!!!

I have the same problem :-(
It would be very nice if there´s a solution for this problem
Thanks a lot
Daniel

You don't need activesynce
You just need to get into bootloader search for it then run the RUU.

kyphur said:
You don't need activesynce
You just need to get into bootloader search for it then run the RUU.
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If USB is not showing up in the bootloader (rainbow screen) then the only known way to backup is via SD card. The RUU cannot be used in this case.
You'll want to dig out the original backup that you made when you first got the phone and do a restore boot. Restore the image from the SD card.
If you want the improved radio ROM, I'd suggest restoring from SD card, CID unlocking the device, upgrading to an AKU 2.x ROM (so you've got a 2.x bootloader) and then applying the 2.x radio ROM upgrade.

sd card
Check this
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=151
I installed a back up rom on my SD card with another phone of a friend of myne

same problem; wizard_radio version-2.25.11
will follow link in above post and see hoe it goes; anyone got any other comments?

no SD backup
well, funnily enough I ran the ROM backup as a precaution, but it seems a. not to have worked and b. to have wiped my SD card, so am buggered whichever way you look at it.
Does anyone have a backup image they could email/FTP to me so I can at least get to USB in bootloader?
THanks,
Jolyon

the CURE
ok, thanks to the tip from a99tandem.
Reset, holding down the camera button, allows you to go into boatloader, and you can flash a ROM from the PC using RUU. Bootloader comes up with 'USB' in the corner.
Thank god for that; that's 5 hours wasted...

Backup existing ROM-Help needed

Hello,
Is there any proven method to backup the existing rom to a form of files like the Updated ROM (nk.nbf,RUU,etc.)?
I would like to preserve my original wm5 ROM since it contains Payed application i can't re-register.
After backing up-it will be WM6
Thanks
Roy

im looking for the same thing too
because i want to try out other roms but i have alot of stuff on my current phone
i know theres a utility that will backup to the minisd card and your able to back it up later
no luck yet
im still searching the forum and google though

No, for most backup applications, you can't restore a WM5 software backup to WM6 device, otherwise weird incompatibility will be happened (such as crashing Contacts)

Yes ! very true,there wud be a incompatibility issue,however if you backup your wm5 rom on a Sdcard,that is also only possible if you have a CID unlocked device,then in time of any emergency,you can reflash it back to your phone,through Sdcard method to restore it back in working condition,but all you applications or programs in wm5 cannot be restored back to wm6 OS.
Cheers

Thanks for you help,
my thoughts were to keep the original ROM for selling this device..
Roy

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
This is the way to make a copy of your current ROM of the Wizard to a SD card.
As stated above this does NOT include any application or data you add yourself to your Wizard but only those apps that comes along with the ROM in the first place.
This should be just fine to have a backup of your current WM5 but does not help to "preserve" any paid applications you installed yourself neither your contacts etc.
Good luck!

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How can I COMPLETELY backup my factory ROM?

Hi,
I want to upgrade my Wizard to WM6 but want to backup/save my original factory rom, the one that came with the phone when I bought it aka the one that Cingular installed just in case I need to revert. I looked everywhere for this issue before posting but did not find a clear answer. I saw that you can backup to mini SD but once again, the instructions were not clear. What I essentially want to do is, backup the original ROM and in case I do not like one of the WM6 roms (hard to believe), I would revert back to the original rom. Can anyone out there provide a clear answer and if so, provide instructions? I know some people have done it with something called "mtty" but I have no knowledge of this program and therefore, do not know how to use it. Thanks in advance for your time and your help!!

If you dont understand how to use MTTY to backup your rom to sd card, then simply go onto the cingular site and download the rom for your device.
Then backup all your data with active sync(XP) or Windows mobile device center(VISTA). Install Sprite backup and use it to backup all data on your phone. it will be a trial version, but it enables you to make backups and restore them, even when the trial has expired you can still restore the backups you just cant make any more new backups unless you buy it.
then make sure your device is cid unlocked and download the WM6 rom you want to try and flash it, if you dont like WM6 you can reinstall the cingular rom and restore the backup you made using sprint backup.
Major note You CANNOT restore a FULL backup that you made from your cingular rom onto the WM6 rom, if you do, the device wont boot and you will have to reflash again.
You can restore a partial backup though ,of say your messages and PIM data and any files in my documents but do not try to restore the windows files.
Hope this helps
Oh i forgot to mention, it is a Pain in the arse trying to flash cooked roms in Vista, so if you have Vista i would recommend using an XP machine to flash, flashing original roms works fine in Vista though

I see, thanks for answering man. That helps.

Sprite backup

i just flashed my Tilt from ATT wm6 to HTC wm6.1
I created a backup file on Sprite Backup. Now i want to restore it and it says that it can cause significant problems if i restore from a different ROM. And wants me to select a Device Upgrade File. Where do i find a Device Upgrade File?

You shouldn't do upgrades from ROM to ROM (especially if it's from 5 to 6 or 6 to 6.1). There's a whole new registry usually and a lot of different things. Just add the program files back and stuff like that, but not the registry. Better yet, reinstall everything manually.

Okay, darn. lol
Now Im learning.
Thanks

starclassic said:
i just flashed my Tilt from ATT wm6 to HTC wm6.1
I created a backup file on Sprite Backup. Now i want to restore it and it says that it can cause significant problems if i restore from a different ROM. And wants me to select a Device Upgrade File. Where do i find a Device Upgrade File?
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Just thought i'd share, the latest version of SPB backup does let you
restore after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode) & also restore a backup on another device (device upgrade mode)
here's the link: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Cheers.

The Reaper said:
Just thought i'd share, the latest version of SPB backup does let you
restore after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode) & also restore a backup on another device (device upgrade mode)
here's the link: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Cheers.
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Warning: spb does not yet fully support WM6.1 for his Backup. With Kaiser (WM6.1) it does not work properly (lot of device hangs).

I Think its bricked
I when ahead and downloaded the new rom with WM6.1 for the ATT TILTfrom the HTC website and did everything to the bone and used sprite backup to backup my files but upon restoring them, my screen just boots through att logo and then shows the flying 3G symbols and then blank screen. I can get to the boot loader and but when I try to reflash my phone, using hard spl it says it cannot find my phone. I have spl 3.56 on my phone. Can anyone help me?

When you're in bootloader mode, just flash to the stock ROM and you should be fine.

Thanx all!
I just want to say thanx to everyone who responded and great thanx or asfoor for the wonderful solution for this problem which can be found here.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348659