Attached is a little program that will prevent the Toshiba BT stack (in laptops) from only connecting to headphones that support SCMS-T. I.e. all A2DP sink devices should now work.
Whytey
The thread on http://www.MTekk.com.au where the topic began for reference.
http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7862
Whytey
SCMS-T - Am I missing something?
Downloaded and ran the patch yet nothing. How fo I know it's worked?
Same problem - no change to BT headphone prob
Just an FYI, I'm also running into the same problem. Tried running SwitchTosSCMSCheck on top of Toshiba's bluetooth stack versions 3.20 and 4 without effect. (Rather than getting the SCMS error message, I get a more generic error message when trying to pair.) I noticed that the registry entries cited in the original thread weren't found during a search of my registry with either version installed ... wondering if Toshiba has tweaked to defeat this fix in the newer version.
Did some surfing on a related thread regarding BT on a Sony TR1 (which uses the same Toshiba stack but has the option to ignore SCMS). This isn't a hack because the software comes with that option enabled. (In fact, the SONY folks were hacking it to make it work with non-Toshiba products.) However, it installs very simply on my Toshiba M200
Link: http://www.drinnan.com/sw/A5_Bluetooth.zip
... replaces the BT 'antenna' with a more traditional BT symbol, but opens up into the Toshiba BT interface. Once installed, go into Options and make sure the SCMS checkbox is deselected.
This is a good fix but a short-term one. The software is evaluation only, and expires after 30 days. (There didn't seem to be an easy workaround for this.)
Re: SCMS-T - Am I missing something?
mattbatt said:
Downloaded and ran the patch yet nothing. How fo I know it's worked?
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You need to run it while you're making a new connection, just before you would usually get the error message you run the exe and click next in the usual new connection wizard.
Thanks, Thats much better now
Thanks for this fix. I bought a Moto HT820 headset to use with my PDA/phone, which initially did not support it as the carrier chose to remove A2DP from it, but I added it back and it is great. Also I wanted to use it with my Toshiba bluetooth stack that I had to install in my Sony laptop because Sony did not support bluetooth headset of any kind and Toshiba hit the copywrite barrier, but this utility fixed that nicely, thanks. My other laptop does not support the HT820 at all either, just blows it the same lo-fi like it is a HS820, so off to mess with the stack for it. My point being that it is nice that there are people out there that can make up the slack when the big companies dangle these nice options in front of us and then snatch them back and say we can not have them. Thanks again for the save.
Hi..
thanks djwhyte.I made the downloading of the file and works well.I have Pc Toshiba M100 end BT Siemens HHB-750.
Thanks A Lot ! Patch Works Perfectly
You're the best.
Sincerly
Thanks!
Worked for me too. Thanks a heap.
And screw you to Toshiba for making the problem in the first place.
The tech's at toshiba gave me the link for the patch (SCMS-T) but for some reason XDA will not let me download it. Please help
ssmith7488 said:
The tech's at toshiba gave me the link for the patch (SCMS-T) :
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HAHAHA! It's good to know that toshiba's tech support is on top of things!
When I try to run the .exe it does not work
I try to run the software but it does not do anything I have stack v4.00.36. Any help?
toshiba (europe) released v5 of the bt stack, it has option to disable scms-t built in...
which is great, but my headphones still lose connection (i rode the short bus to school)
Windows XP+S9+A2DP
Thankyou very much for this fix, it works great.
m400 BT stack v5+vista+S9
no joy
program wont even show in the
process/services when i look at the task manager...
vista problem? (another!!!?)
BT stack 5.10.12 upgrade the answer?
trying it now, if i dont come back- dont use it :
upgrade is legit
get it at
http://aps2.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
simple- no need to do anything other then installing
Thanks whytey, I placed the switch on the desk top & it works well with my blue ant
speakers.
Double thanks ok.
for everyone who is confused by this scms-t..
you need to run the switchtosscms right before pairing your devices..
for me, i rand the .exe everytime it went for the next step.. even when its connecting..
toshiba protege m400..
hope this helps.. because it was confusing for me..
the sony A5 thing is junk...
Related
Check out this link from PocketPCThoughts.com for a new Bluetooth patch from Broadcom for the PDA2K...
Fellow MVP Helio Diamant, of Pocket PC Freak, has gotten a fantastic little nugget for iMate PDA2k owners:
Quote:
A friend of mine has just come back from CES and brought with him a little CAB file that was being given by the guys from Broadcom there. They told him we can publish and offer for download, so I am putting it here to you guys too.
When installed, this CAB adds the following profiles to the Broadcom BT stack in the PDA2K:
1. High-Quality Audio
2. Keyboard
This means that those of you holding stereo headsets can now connect them to PDA2k and here music, navigation instructions, etc from the device. As well, Bluetooth Keyboards are supposed to work well.
Early reports suggest it works with a number of devices, including both HTC Blue Angel and HTC Harrier units; it might work with other Broadcom-based (i.e., Widcomm) Bluetooth units, but there's no guarantee. If you're interested in playing "with it, you can download the CAB here. Note: This update is unofficial and unsupported; install it at your own risk, and do a backup first! As far as I know, it's a RAM update, but I haven't tried it. Good luck if you do. "
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/parekh/misc/PDA2K_BroadcomCorp_BTUpdate.cab
i already installed on my i-mate and had to do hard reset since it hanged in boot mode.
thanks to sprite backup i am back
noviur said:
i already installed on my i-mate and had to do hard reset since it hanged in boot mode.
thanks to sprite backup i am back
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Noviur,
On which device did you try ? i-Mate PDA2k?
cheers,
bins
install seems not to work
Just tried the cab install (both from my SD card and Program Files location - after resets), but nothing seems to have changed on my i-Mate PDA2k with Rom 1.22.162 WWE.
1. No BT Services were added (still only File Transfer, InformationExchange, Serial Port, Personal Network Server, Dial-up BNetworking Server, Hands-Free),
2. No update seems to have happened, all module versions remained at 1.0.0.3500 (except obviously the BTPluginManagerCE.exe [1.0.0.1]),
3. Despite the dialog box telling it is "writing information for Remove Programs" it can not be found back in the Remove Programs.
Any clues?
cheers,
bins
P.S. Just in case, and like Noviur, reverted with Sprite Backup
The version information in the package suggests 1.6.0.0600
did you install the 1.6.0.0600 upgrade before u installed this?
i installed it.. the new 2 profiles show up but the audio one doesnt work ..
i have pda2k
any help???
I installed the new patch on an SX-66. It doesn't upgrade the Bluetooth stack or provide new services. But it does add 2 new profiles. One for a Stereo audio headset (this won't work with a Hands free device since the profile doesn't include support for a MIC.) and one for a keyboard.
I also switched my Bluetooth stack to the 1.6 version posted here. This seems to be a stack based on Widcom as opposed to Microsoft. Although my device worked and seemed to pair faster my Handsfree device didn't come on when dialing the phone. So I switched back.
Remco, thx, installed the Broadcom 1.6.0.600 cab-file first and afterwards installed the PDA2k cab-file.
Update seems to have worked and indeed have the two new client profiles.
Will check in the store tomorrow if the HQ audio works indeed and if no other nuisances arise.
Will keep you in the loop.
cheers,
bins
Installed it on my Qtek9090 with rom 1.22.00/1.06.00/1337.38/1.22.556
I was able to bond my Logitech DiNovo keyboard to the PDA and use it !
It works very well, very cool to be able to type on a full size keyboard on your PDA.
I don't own a BT audio headset, so i wasn't able to test that.
All other devices like my GPS mouse, Bluetrek G2 headset etc. seem to work ok as they did before.
nop, it was I-Mate PPC. I new it is for PDA2K, but wanted to try it
Previously I installed Widcom BT 1.6.
No luck for me ... for now at least
Did it answer calls through the b/t headset? Mine wouldn't connect to the headset for outgoing or incoming calls. Also if it does work,which PDA2K cab did you use?
Thanks
bins said:
Remco, thx, installed the Broadcom 1.6.0.600 cab-file first and afterwards installed the PDA2k cab-file.
Update seems to have worked and indeed have the two new client profiles.
Will check in the store tomorrow if the HQ audio works indeed and if no other nuisances arise.
Will keep you in the loop.
cheers,
bins
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anybody tried it on an magician device?
The file is no longer there!
Could someone please upload them agian or e-mail it to me
[email protected]
Thanks
Does this upgrade support the Audio Gateway preference (which enable u to stream mp3s to a BT headset)??
can somebody please email it to mack AT netcom.no ?
(the download URL does not work)
hi,
I have look high & low for it.
can i have the bt upgrade too? my email [email protected]
and that there is of the option of the BT dial up modem??
for when they will troubleshoot this.
greetings
Here's the file
I tried it on my HTC Himalaya. It wouldn't play any sound, not even callers voice. I had to hard reset the unit.
Good luck
Johan
Hi,
I just got my HP bluetooth headphones... and I absolutely love them!!!. The range is ok... not great, but enough to be considered fully usable. It crackles if there is some physical resistance between the MDAIII and the headphones, but other than that, they are awesome...
Anyone that is considering to get them, I highly recommend it. But be sure to have a 3500 bluetooth stack (with the extensions posted here of course) and Radio 1.06.02 (I am not sure whether 00 would do equally, but I recommend 02).
Treo
Me too. Can someone email me a copy of this file?
[email protected]
Thanks!
Hi all
I have got Blue Angel:
ROM: 1.42.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
BT: 3900
Last week I upgraded to the T-Movbile 1.42 Rom. I then installed the A2DP profile patch and was amazed that my Omiz OMS600 headphones were actually working using the high quality audio profile, and they were working very well.
The other day I did a hard reset to sort out a few things and left it at that. Later on when I came to reinstall my A2DP it wasn't working, nor was using the headphones as just a normal headset. I tried all sorts, including downgrading my ROM because at that point I was wondering whether or not it was actually on a previous version that I had it working.
Anyway... eventually I decided it was the headphones that had an error so emailed Omiz who were very helpful and sent me the download for their firmware flashing utility. This upgraded the ROM of my headphones from 1.06 to 1.25. I can now pair my headphones as a headset but not as High Quality Audio. I can get it to add a High Quality Audio shortcut in BT manager but when it trys to connect it says: "connection failed". Before it was also saying "service unavailable on device" or somthing similar.
Any assistance would be good.
Thanks a lot.
s_t_harvey said:
I then installed the A2DP profile patch and was amazed
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Can you, please, tell me where to find this patch?
Someone knows if it works for wm5??
Thanks!
A2DP & WM5
Hi there,
I got the patch from: ftp://xda:[email protected] Upgrades/BT profiles for build 3500/
But I'm not sure if it will work on WM5, I think I have read that it will not, this is my main reason for not moving to WM5 yet... although at the moment while i can't get A2DP working I am not much better off.
How are you finding WM5? Is it reliable enough to compete with WM2003 yet, or is there still a bit of work needed?
It doesn't work under WM5. WM5 has a Microsoft bluetooth stack, this patch does not apply.
WM5 on the BA is quite stable if you have the time to work with it. I am not going back. If somebody comes up with a BT fix for the stand-by problem that does not drain the battery, all of my issues will be fixed.
A2DP on WM5
Thanks for that... I might consider upgrading one evening when I have nothing better to do!
Do you rekon we'll ever see A2DP on the MS bluetooth stack?
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s_t_harvey said:
Thanks for that... I might consider upgrading one evening when I have nothing better to do!
Do you rekon we'll ever see A2DP on the MS bluetooth stack?
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Yeah I think so. Apparently it's not out in the wild yet, but w/ BT 1.2, a lot of people will be looking to do more with it.
shuffle said:
WM5 has a Microsoft bluetooth stack, this patch does not apply.
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Did you mean: "the mamaich rom has microsoft bluetooth stack". I really hope we can get WM5 with the same stack I had on w2003. (Broadcom, I think). Maybe it is out there but I can't see it...
shuffle said:
WM5 on the BA is quite stable if you have the time to work with it. I am not going back.
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I agree. By the moment, I'm very pleased with the performance of WM5 on my BA. It actually runs faster than w2003! And I'm beeing very objective, believe me!
I'm having a big annoyance with writting (sms, word, etc) as the spelling isn't allways what I wrote. On the SMS window, it seems the screen gets redrawn all the time and it loose some words...
The other big is not having A2DP. I think is very frustrating having such a nice machine without a good software that makes all its goodness work! :?
Some delayings on the screen repainting and (I'm using Pocket Informant) slow performance on the everyday tasks as opening the contacts list, or changing toanother program, for example...
shuffle said:
If somebody comes up with a BT fix for the stand-by problem that does not drain the battery, all of my issues will be fixed.
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What do you mean? To have the BT on a low-power mode more or less?
cheers...
looking 4 answers: ad2p & bluetooth & wm5
somebody with an answer to this theme?
WAS: ad2p & bluetooth & wm5
It is somehow possible?
Anybody there? :roll:
Answer is no, not possible yet.
And to the poster above - yes, just need the bluetooth connect issue solved where it drops connection when it goes into stand-by mode. The fix that drains the battery by keeping the unit out of standby mode really isn't a fix for me.
Not that I am complaining - I'm happy to be an early adopter along for the ride..
shuffle said:
Answer is no, not possible yet.
And to the poster above - yes, just need the bluetooth connect issue solved where it drops connection when it goes into stand-by mode. The fix that drains the battery by keeping the unit out of standby mode really isn't a fix for me.
Not that I am complaining - I'm happy to be an early adopter along for the ride..
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some URLs????
Thanks!
How do I enable A2DP on my BA??
Hello!!
I have searched the forum many many times and visited wiki, but I could only find 2 threads which is close to what I need to know. This is 1 of them.
I have got Blue Angel:
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.12.00
BT: 3900
This configuration came from the recently rom upgrade from o2.
It seems to me that it's possible to enable A2DP on a BA running on WM2003 SE, which allows me to stream music to a bt headphones??
However I just could not find a thread which has an instruction on how to do it. Not even on wiki. After reading some threads, I came to my own conclusion that I need to upgrade me BT to build 3900 and install a patch??
So this was what I did,
Since my BT is already 3900 "offical" version, thus I didn't do anything to it.
I d/l this file BA_OEM_AudioGW (1.33g.00).CAB (83KB) and ran it on my PPC. I then got the audiogw.dll in my windows folder.
That was all I did. It didn't work of course. I have another file, BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab but didn't use it as I'm already on 3900??
So I was just hoping that someone who has done it and was successful, could point me in the right direction!!! Thanks a lot!!!
anyone tried running both cab loacted at
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAn...age BT 1.0.0.3900 and audiogw.dll - 1.33g.00/
if it works, do let me know. I currently do not have a bluetooth headphones to test with.
I have Omiz headset (with MP3 and radio FM) and due to work with my Magician I had to manually change some registry entries. Point was that my PDA was not correctly identified as a A2DP device (only HF). I paired my PDA with normal BT dongle with A2DP profile, found registry entries with dongle mac adress and copied manually keys coressponding with a2dp service to folder with my headphones profiles. After all that it was possible to chose headphopnes in BT menager as stereo audio receiver.
Maybe its similar and u should look in registry...
jarekt, can you post those registryvalues please?!
Can't get streaming audio to BT headphones
I still have had no luck with the BA_OEM_AudioGW (1.33g 00) Cab or any registry settings under WM5.
BT a2dp WM5
have you tried the file (.cab) i uploaded in BlueAngel under uploads, it let me pair BT Stereo under wm5. Nevermind I looked someone deleted it dont know why. PM me and i can send if you want, I tried to reupload but Uploads appears broken.
I am on thesame situation of errorist.
My machine is on Broadcom 3900, and I want to make A2DP work.
If anyone can shed a light on how to make it work, I'd be very very grateful.
BTW, I have a Motorola HT820.
UPDATE:
I have installed the 3900 stack + audiogw dll even though I had a factory-installed 3900 stack, and I managed to connect in handsfree mode.
I still have not found out how to connect in A2DP mode though...
Any help is appreciated.
Hi All
I dont know how useful this is going to be, but i spent ages doing research to get my ht820 and my 02 xda 2s working properly, and when i did, i wrote a semi bad guide here
http://www.corecodec.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=29&expv=0&topic=2840.0
if its any use i'd be tempted to maybe write it up proper and put in in the wiki, either way, try some of the steps or files ive listed (most of them are from here)
but it gets it working with TCPMP aswell, which is a lot better than WM10 anyhow
good luck
BTW: ivans rom uses the broadcom stack, so the patch may work, however i dont have the headphones to test it with
i've onstalled this two cabs too, but new profile didn't appeared. Bay Be some registry values didn't appied? who did this patch?
BA WM5 Broadcom 1.7.1 Build 3400 Stack (Test)
This is just some test of mine to hv option with BT stack (MS/Broadcom), I only spend the last 3 hour workin on this little project, so it really possible if anything is missing or I forgotin something (its happens to me right?..lol), but I've test it and it work like it should (With My v1.3 ROM), I dont know if this test hv a bug. maybe we can test it, especially A2DP and stabilty issues with this test.
Tested operation:
1. Activesync
2. Send/Recieve File
3. Headset via computer
4. Network Access
5. BT Serial Port
6. Dial-up Networking
Known Issue:
U tell me, not tested so much.
Instalation:
1. Install the HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST.CAB then soft reset
Uninstall (note the step its really neccesary, or u'll endup mess with ur phone):
1. Install Enable_MS_BT_.CAB
2. Delete registry value (or the folder)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WIDCOMM]
and delete "Redirect" key on:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Bluetooth]
"Redirect"="BTConnManagerCE.exe"
3. Reset
4. Uninstall HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST.
5. Delete file from \Temp dir
EDIT:
I forgot to mention, after u run ENABLE_MS_BT.CAB the Broadcomm/Widcomm file will be move to \Temp folder so u can delete it safely...
Dont expect to be perfect on this release, cos its only on earlier stage, to early, hopes someone might help for improvement, and workin together with me, and I hopes some1 can make a better Install/Uninstall process.
Dont install/try if u dont know what ur doin, and backup your data is a must.
Input is always welcome. cos I believe there's still much things to do.
Thanks for http://www.aximsite.com site and everybody there for the BT file.
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=122247
and also thanks -=xXx=- for the info where to find it. thanks man.
Helmi
gonna test it now helmi_c
thanks
Just intalled. The stereo works fine! Great quality for me! The hands free seems to be a bit tempremental. Worked once and then stopped afet receiving one call.. WIll try it out again..It looks like am stuck with an either. One observation: with the ms stack, there was a headphoen icon while using the phone. is absent here...wonder if that was a ms stack function?
deepak
helmi_c,
hmm weird, after i installed the new wildcom stack, my pda cant see my headset anymore.
still testing though.
wish me luck.
imatrix
I believe u guys both hv problem with MS Stack, hopes this stack will help for who having problem with MS Stack, but remember this is just some sort test, maybe still need a lot of improvement. but its seems work good with deepakr who hv problem with MS, imatrix hopes u'll hv the same result like he does. good luck.
btw In the rar there's a BTspeed cab, it might help for some headset, post on the Axim forum sites... there's also another app for controlin power if i'm not mistaken, I'll post when i get back.
A little note, this stack sometimes wakeup if gsm signal is lost/found, if the signal of gsm is good, it shouldnt happen (theoriticaly speaking..lol..).
helmi_c
Firstly great to see BT restarting automatically after handset is switched on from standby mode. After some fooling around I was able to set up activesync and it worked like a charm (useful for me especially since USB activesync does not work)
Couple of problems I faced
1. Turning off and restarting BT gave me a unable to load driver due to insufficient memory error. When I stopped my activesync, outlook and contacts and tried again it started successfully.
2. I was unable to find the DUN service and my PC did not recognize a DUN service either - am I looking/not looking at the right place?
Thanks and highly appreciate your prolific contribution
-AKC
Hi Hemli
I have just installed this a minute ago,
Ill report back in a few hours with my experiances with this.
Hopefully it will be better than M$ BT stack with stereo headsets.
I've upload a patch that contain a newer BTCeIf.dll (1.7 the original was 1.6) and HTC_PCM_Routing.dll taken from htc device. well... in my device I dont hv problem with memory issues, even without this patch.. I dont know for sure, cos i dont test it much...currently test workin Simultaniously is BTSYnc, SerialPort 1 in 1 out, and Audio Gateway. and its still work fine.
btw please post comment here, and also what rom u currently use. Otw now, just come to trow the patch..
bro helmi,
Sorry if i asking you stupid question.
Can this file install/working with WM2003SE ?
THX
hi..
hi have instal this, and find some issues
1- if i turn on bt the wifi dont work..
2- if i turn on wifi, the bt give the memory error
afther use 1 off the things (bt our wifi) need a soft reset to work the other
Riddler said:
bro helmi,
Sorry if i asking you stupid question.
Can this file install/working with WM2003SE ?
THX
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No, it does not work on WM2003SE, I installed it and I had to hard re-set my Imate, it works only under Wondows 2005!!
Any way I gave it a try and I had to hard reset my PDA any way!!
Helmi, I just wanted to confirm, that Dial-Up with 2nd phone works fine. Tested also BT stereo headphones from HP (A2DP with additional profile for controlling playing - skipping to the next track and pause) - So far works as only BT implementation in BA allows: on close distance and not doing much in backgroud works fine.
Another happy user of your Firmware and other tools for BA!
Later on I will test GPS on BT, but do not expect any problems.
One small detail is left from old BT stack: while creating a connection you can still choose connection using "Bluetooth" that refers to M$ stack (selecting it reports hardware error - not rreally suprising
helmi_c said:
I've upload a patch that contain a newer BTCeIf.dll (1.7 the original was 1.6) and HTC_PCM_Routing.dll taken from htc device. well... in my device I dont hv problem with memory issues, even without this patch.. I dont know for sure, cos i dont test it much...currently test workin Simultaniously is BTSYnc, SerialPort 1 in 1 out, and Audio Gateway. and its still work fine.
btw please post comment here, and also what rom u currently use. Otw now, just come to trow the patch..
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Aha! The patch helped! I now have a fully functional headset, stereo on the headphones and a great speedy and stable ROM. Makes me one happy camper. Looks like now I can go ahead and finally configure this with all my apps. Thanks helmi
NO HANDSFREE PROFILE
Hi
nice integration and thanks but i went back to ms as my sony ericson hcb-700 wll not pair for some reason after looks like the handsfree profile is not working
The Audio stream is great with this BT solution !
But when I connect to my parrot ck3300 carkit, It opens the connection like there is a tel.call active. when i press the hangup button on my carkit the BT connection is gone.
So it seems it is connected as headset and not as handsfree phone,
One other thing, when I connect to my BT Sony Ericsson HbH ds970 stereo headset I cannot shut off the screen in tcpmp player ???
(I think this also happened with th MS stack)
any solution for this ?
Last test (with my clean AKU3.2 v1.3) with BroadcommPatch1 applied and no overclock:
Turn on/off 4 times and reconnect below service (get bored to turn on/off and play with it again):
currently active BT service at the same time is:
1. Activesync / Bluetooth serial Out (syncing)
2. Network Acces/ Bluetooth Networking
3. Audio Gateway / Calling my mobile operator and stream audio to my pc as headset
4. Send/Recieve file from pc and from pda
5. Bluetooth serial In
and currently active application (leave as background procces I dont close it):
1. Activesync (Syncing)
2. Calendar
3. Contact (580 contact display)
4. Excel Mobile opening 185kb file
5. Album
6. Word Mobile opening 220kb file (little bit slow on opening)
7. Powerpoint Mobile opening 350kb file till end slide
8. Notes
9. Task
10. Bluetooth Manager
11. File Explorer
12. Calculator.
lastly...activate Wifi...wifi detecting & connect to neighbor network... turn off wifi...activated again...detecting & connect to neighbor network again...
but I dont test the GPS (serial port) or A2DP stuff since i dont hv it.
turn off bt...turn on again...reconnect the above BT service...do this 4 times.. still no memory issues. well maybe I'm just bein lucky... but the battery is drain more faster with this test, maybe because this is somekind of stress testing.
so far this Broadcomm stack still running well...the sound from Audiogateway while this test active is still ok, but if the gsm signal is bad, the sound is bad also, so its not bt problem its a gsm problem. btw the ShutXP Icon on the tray is GONE..thats weird.., that the only issue I hv..
btw does anyone know where to find a PC Widcomm/Broadcomm driver that support A2DP, I dont remember where to find it. My PC Widcomm driver version is v1.4.2 Build 12, quite old, I want to test the a2dp profile.
btw if u play with:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\HandsFree]
"SupportedFeatures"=dword:37 (default doesnt exist)
"ServiceMask"=dword:1
"AudioSetupDll"="\windows\HTC_PCM_Routing.dll" (default MkSpk_PCM_Routing.dll need to play with this and see what more widely support device)
"AudioPreferences"=dword:2
"AudioHandling"=dword:13 (default 8 )
there's a Icon if headset is activated. but its seems unstable in my device, try it.
bigsteve said:
Hi Hemli
I have just installed this a minute ago,
Ill report back in a few hours with my experiances with this.
Hopefully it will be better than M$ BT stack with stereo headsets.
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Waitin for ur input...
jakubd said:
Helmi, I just wanted to confirm, that Dial-Up with 2nd phone works fine. Tested also BT stereo headphones from HP (A2DP with additional profile for controlling playing - skipping to the next track and pause) - So far works as only BT implementation in BA allows: on close distance and not doing much in backgroud works fine.
Another happy user of your Firmware and other tools for BA!
Later on I will test GPS on BT, but do not expect any problems.
One small detail is left from old BT stack: while creating a connection you can still choose connection using "Bluetooth" that refers to M$ stack (selecting it reports hardware error - not rreally suprising
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oops... well, maybe its a little bit tricky to strip out completely the old stack, but I'll try learn this... or any input is more then welcome
deepakr said:
Aha! The patch helped! I now have a fully functional headset, stereo on the headphones and a great speedy and stable ROM. Makes me one happy camper. Looks like now I can go ahead and finally configure this with all my apps. Thanks helmi
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Good to hear that deepakr, Btw I imatrix what u status man? is it workin with u (the patch)? if u still hv a static noise issues, try to delete the shortcut on the BTManager and re-create the Audiogateway Shortcut.
hey helmi_c,
Good to hear that deepakr, Btw I imatrix what u status man? is it workin with u (the patch)? if u still hv a static noise issues, try to delete the shortcut on the BTManager and re-create the Audiogateway Shortcut
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yep still have the static noise, will try your method later.
been bz this few days, i did not test much. I will play around with it tomorrow.
thanks.
imatrix
Thanks Helmi, great job!
A2DP works nicely, but now i get the same opposite as compared to microsoft stack. my A2DP is perfect whereas any calls that come in ring through the hedset, but i can't pick the calls up / talk through the bluetooth headset. weird uh?
Anyone hit the same problem?
I have no problems with static, just some slowdowns due to processor usage and i can't toggle the screen in WM or using display switch.
Great Job though!
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maybe its because i'm connected as both headset and high quality audio? going to try connect as hands free and HQA.
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can't for the life of me find out how to pair it in handsfree mode! Any pointers?
I've recently purchased a BT-359 bluetooth GPS receiver. It looks sweet -- and it'll look even sweeter once its little blue light is blinking quickly indicating that its paired with my Treo 750.
I strongly believe the issue lies with the MS bluetooth stack, and I very much want to upgrade to the Broadcom / Widcomm stack. There are very active boards in all the other phone forums talking about porting a version of this vastly superior stack to their hardware platforms -- I'd like to make this the call for someone to do the same for the Treo 750. Better yet, I'd like to add this thread as a call to Broadcom to charge each of us $20 for something that should have been included in our phones in the first place - I'll hapily pay it.
If anyone has any ideas for getting the Braodcom / Widcomm stack working on a Treo 750 then please post it here. My entire day of internet searching has me confident that there are many Treo 750 users who will appreciate it.
I'll post my sob story below - happy hacking.
As I mentioned above (in the opening post of ths thread) I've got a vested interest in finding a way to get the Broadcom / Widcomm stack onto my Treo 750.
Alright, I've now submitted a support ticket to GlobalSat (they only do "selective" telephone support). I've also tried several other work arounds that have necessitated several hard resets of my device. I'll list a few of the solutions I've tried below, so that other frustrated users can hopefully save themselves a few steps (and headaches). Before I start this, i've got to give a plug for Sprite Backup which has made the process of trail and error bearable. I've got several work apps installed (most painfaully mNotes) which are a chore to re-configure. I'm glad that Sprite was around to restore my handheld after each of these solution attempts. Things I tried:
1. From Aximsite, I installed the Broadcom Bluetooth StackX51V05.cab -- I tried this file first because it had worked for several Dell Axim users trying to pair the same BT-359. It was also attractive to me because it provided me a path out of the MS bluetooth stack and into the Broadcom / Widcomm bluetooth stack, while also offering an uninstall option. The program installed easily, I made a couple registry tweaks suggested at Axim site, and I performed a soft reset. When the phone re-booted, i received a error informing me that I didn't have enough driver memory to load the Bluetooth Radio. I downloaded a task manager and turned off everything I could, all to no avail. Finally, I had a hunch that perhaps the Axim bluetooth was operating on a different hardware COM port, so I tried setting the registry settings for the new Broadcom driver to 0 through 9 (rebooting after each setting change) to see if that would work. In the end, nothing worked. I did get access to the broadcom interface and I can definitively say that there are far more options available in that driver than in the MS driver. I can also say that, from what I read, consensus is that the braodcom driver is far superior to the MS driver.
2. Next, from this site (XDA developers), I tried the BBS_HERMES_03.zip, and the Helmi_Hima_BroadComm_1.7.6.0500.ZIP both of which have been developped by Hemli_c who is aparently the god of this stuff. Both yielded control panels that looked similar to the Axim site solution, however neither of them worked - they both gave the same memory error. I played around with many more registry settings here trying to get them to work, again, without any luck. These were the most detailed instructions I found - I'm happy to give tips to anyone trying to better my results. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
3. Next, I became very interested about the WM6 "cooked roms" which are available on XDA. Now this is where I really wish the Treo folks were more geeky (or I had the time to figure it out myself). The other hardware platforms all have SEVERAL WM6 implimentations cooked up, each touting the best mix of CAB add-ons (including the broadcom bluetooth driver). I downloaded Helmi_c's, but it wouldn't work on my Treo (I did learn that to get into bootloader mode on the 750, you need to hold the side button while you press the reset button inside the SD card door). This was a bit of a nerve racking procedure, as I was convinced Sprite couldn't bail me out of that mess -- i was half thankful when the ROM refused to load (although I am excited to get WM6 loaded on my phone).
4. Finally, I sent another support request to GlobalSat in hopes that I'd get a response. I'm very excited to get this toy working, and this messing around is finally starting to get past the fun stage, to the genuinely annoying stage. I'm actually starting to think that I might not be able to get it to work (at first I just thought it'd be a challenge that would be kind of fun).
If anyone has any questions, or suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them.
I'll post again as I find out more.
I don't know that I can help any technically, but you have my moral support. The MS bluetooth stack is horrible and a constant source of headaches for me. Thanks for all of the effort and thanks for posting all of your information. Even if, in the end, you don't manage to slay the beast you have at least earned yourself a happy face sticker from me ;-)
I use the widcomm stack on my axim X51v and it is indeed superior to the ms stack.
It would be great to use it on my treo.
It is so much better and with a lot more options.
My skills about these things are close to zero, but you do have my moral support too.
First of all, an update on USGlobalSat... they aren't winning any points so far. In response to my query about their GPS receiver not pairing with my Treo 750 I got the following response:
Thank you for contacting USGlobalsat's online care. In reply, we recommend a 72 hour battery removal allowing the device to reset. In many cases, this action corrects many performance abnormalities. If problems continue, then proceed by contacting the original reseller requesting a product replacement.
Now onto some more positive news. I had some temporary success with one of Helmi's Bluetooth stacks for the Universal. The specific file I loaded was either UNIBR176.0500.zip or UNSIGN_UNI1.7.6.0500.zip.. I'm not sure which (I'll post again with the exact process).
The process and files worked perfectly for about 18 glorious hours. My GPS paired, my stereo headset paired, and everything seemed to be working perfectly. The next morning, everything was still working perfectly. When I went to leave work (and use my GPS to find a restaurant), I couldn't power on the bluetooth radio. Whenever I clicked on the bluetooth button, I once again got the "insufficient driver memory to start bluetooth radio" error. I hadn't added or modified anything since the night before (I was afraid to mess anything up).
I have just returned from dinner and am in the process of restoring a Sprite backup (which I love) and will try to recreate my success. I'll report back tonight, and again in 24hrs -- hopefully this time the solution is longer lasting.
I have been trying to get this to work on my trinity--any tips would be welcome.
Frustratingly, I'm back to getting the memory error below. Even if I hard reset, and JUST load up the bluetooth driver (none of my other apps) it no longer works. It must have been a complete fluke that it worked for those 18hrs. I'm going to try again tonight - recording my steps exactly - in hopes that it either works, or that someone can pinpoint my error.
I am fairly sure that the fact that this installation was designed for another device isn't helping me get this working - hopefully I'll stumble across the solution.
I got the hermes version installed ok but it would never pair or detect a bluetooth device. you can get around the memory error by cleaning out your today plugins and getting SK tools. Use the SK tools to stop cprog.exe, then compact heaps and free memory.
ok, I've made some progress and will try and summarize here (sorry for the slow reply). These things are listed in this order for a reason, if I don't do them in order, then the driver won't load:
Hard Reset Palm
Install mNotes (to device)
Install Google Maps (to storage card)
Install Sprite Backup (greatest program ever) (to storage card)
Install Braodcom Bluetooth Stack (see procedure and file location above) (to device)
If I install Google after I install the bluetooth stack, I get the out of memory error (and I couldn't correct it using SDK tools). Also, this setup is kind of finicky about soft resets, occasionally the bluetooth driver won't load, but this is resolved by simply resetting the device.
Things that don't work (that did work under old stack):
Bluetooth Activesync
Voice calls through my sony stereo bluetooth headset
Things that now work that didn't work before
My bluetooth GPS receiver now works
Stereo quality from MP3s is vastly improved (noticeably)
Hopefully someone will come up with a Broadcom stack designed specifically for the Treo 750 - I'd pay for it.
If ayone else has any tips, please post here.
Thanks,
Gavin
I've yet to get the stack to work at all. I have hard reset, installed the stack, used sktools, but no luck. Did you do any other tweaking?
Bump...hoping to hear back on this. I've tried repeatedly and get the same results. I also noticed that it knocks out my microphone on the phone so I cant even make calls when I install the widcomm stack. I swear I am going to chuck this 750 and get an 8525.
Same result as gmctavish
Stack worked great until suddenly radio could not load. I tried installing in safe mode but I get the same results. Maybe if you use a 3rd party task manager and stop the BT service and then install this it will work? I'm going to try.
Very intermittent but when it works it works good.
I had success adding some functionality by using http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
I used it to allow phonebook and call log transfer to another application...Streetdeck (streetdeck.com).
I now can use my car pc to dial/receive calls.
sorry this response took a while. I did not do any tweaking beyond what I described above. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
I've been working with the Broadcom stack installed for almost two months now - I have several ups and downs I can report.
The Good
The driver itself loads after 90% of hard resets (when it doesn't load, another hard reset gets it to load -- this is strange)
My Bluetooth GPS receiver works (the original reason for me trying to use the stack
My stereo headset works for listening to music and TV shows
I've got a bunch of software installed and I'm not getting out of memory errors (mNotes, google maps, tom tom, bee line, TCPMP, Sprite Backup, PDAnet)
Association/Discovery is UBER painless, I turn on the headset or the GPS receiver and they pair with the phone without any fuss.
No dropped connections
The Bad
Listening to the bluetooth headset with the bluetooth GPS receiver connected and feeding data to either tom tom or google maps is unbearable - 50% of the music is dropped
Activesync over bluetooth doesn't work
I haven't been able to get the phone paired with my computer to use the phone as a bluetooth modem (using junefabrics PDAnet)
My stereo bluetooth headset works fine for audio (some skipping and not great sound, but it works)... however it no longer works for making calls - as soon as I try and make a call it is dumbed to the handheld.
For any who wants to upgrade their existing PPC's Bluetooth stack to BroadComm stack...download from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/67820520/WidcommBluetooth.rar
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For any who wants to upgrade their existing PPC's Bluetooth stack to WIDCOMM stack...download from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/67820520/WidcommBluetooth.rar
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That's great...
But - have you try it on your Hima? If so... then it's fantastic
sorry i ahvent because my chraging block is broken..and i dnt have a card reader..will sold tomorrow
OK then... I'll try to check it tonight. Plus, I'll recombine this with a patch to a single cab.
gud and thnxx
BT
...for me working corectly great work. thx
Sweet! Finally, i can get rid of that crappy MS stack in my ROM.
Thanks ather & Helmi
EDIT: Stack works perfectly! File transfer is back to what it should be and everything's sweet!
2 questions tho.
1: Does this stack have A2DP? I've put off buying BT headphones cos the MS stack didn't support it, if this one does i'll probs go pick up a pair.
2: Know of any good bluetooth IM clients? A few mates of mine have XDAs and it'd be pretty sweet to chat to each other over bluetooth instead of using GPRS (we all work in the same vicinity (diff rooms) and at times, it'd be handy to send a quick bluetooth IM). I'm thinking if we were all on the same bluetooth personal / public network, the client'd be able to communicate with another client. In which case, it wouldn't need to be a specific bluetooth client (as the stack should, theoretically, transmit inet data over the bluetooth network), just a network client.
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Does this stack have A2DP? I've put off buying BT headphones cos the MS stack didn't support it
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MS BT stack under WM 5.0 and 6.0 supports A2DP without any modification.
Works great on my Himalayas.
Sascha
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2: Know of any good bluetooth IM clients? A few mates of mine have XDAs and it'd be pretty sweet to chat to each other ...
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Do you mean voice chat or txt chat? (I'm not an IM expert)
It sounds to me like we could theoretically use our devices more or less like good old walkie talkies
u can get it here : http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/btchat/
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u can get it here : http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/btchat/
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that website tells me it's only for Linux. It looks like it's only txt based?
Found this link
http://www.eurescom.de/~pub-deliverables/P1100-series/P1118/D3/VoiceOverBluetooth.html
Only readable in MSIE, horror in Firefox
Maggy said:
Do you mean voice chat or txt chat? (I'm not an IM expert)
It sounds to me like we could theoretically use our devices more or less like good old walkie talkies
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I was reading something last night about a user who'd hacked MS portrait to run as a PTT (push-to-talk) app over a bluetooth network, looked interesting. [url='http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=371262]Blog article[/url] | [url='http://winmobiletech.com/portrait/]MS portrait hacking link[/url]
Another app (currently in beta) is one from hipvoice.com. Apparently it's designed entirely for PTT over any network (bluetooth, wifi, gprs-etc)
TBH either text or voice IM would be good. It'd certainly be a helluva lot cheaper than SMSing friends in different rooms at work/college.
Lastly, anyone know why BT shuts off the second the device goes into standby? I used to have a widcomm stack on WM5 (a long LONG time ago) that didn't have this problem. I used to be able to start BT transfers and leave the device in my pocket (they'd still transfer even if the device standbyed). Now, the second the device turns off, all file transfers are instantly cut.
[url='http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072976&postcount=9]Here[/url]'s an old forum post i dug up showing that widcomm used to work in the background on WM5. Any reason why it won't do the same on WM6?
did u try the Broadcomm stack
8Mb of program my god!!! that too resting inside the \windows . the Hima shall crawl and sleep..
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did u try the Broadcomm stack
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Same difference. Widcomm got taken over by broadcomm, so it's basically the same stack.
Yeah i'm using the stack on page 1 of this thread, works like a charm (apart from turning off during device standby).
Problems..
Hi there!
Tried and works great on my hima WM6..
Except 1 thing: i can not connect to my gps... I tried 1000 ways and no solution... It seams the com port part of the stack is wrong...
BTW i wanna uninstall... i tried and it doesnt worked... after uninstall the original bluetooth progs says there is a problem with ure hardware...
How to get back the "old" crappy MS bluetooth??
Thx..
I get this error:
The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insufficient driver memory available.
You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio.
First i install the stack, then the install do a soft reset and then i install the patch.
I've just switched for the PAN. everything is working fine, except for the SerialPort. I Think this stack need's some tweaking/hacking.
When I tested with my BT GPS, the GPS LED stopt blinking = it means the GPS is connected.
But for some reason the software/application can't find the BT GPS.
BTW does anyone know if it's possible to keep booth stack's on the device? I Love PAN, but still need SerialPort.
Thanks.
I am too stupid to use your software. With your WM6 ROM active sync not working and with other ROMs i get this error using this BT stack:
Error