TomTom 5.21 lock up - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Sorry if this has been answered before, but I cannot find any solutions to this on any of the forums.
TT5 running ok but 9 times out of 10 it will 'lock-up' during the journey. If I take out the SD card and reinsert it, sometimes it continues to work but after about 4 or 5 goes it locks up completely and needs a hard reset.
Someone suggested that there was still a problem with moving between cells where this would loose connection to the SD card.
Any suggestions on how to fix other than buy a new phone?

are you using any 3rd party poi's like a speed camera database? ive made a recent discovery after quite an extenstive thread and months of testing, its the 3rd party poi's, the speed camera ones spesifically that are causing it. ive taken them off and never crashed since covering 3000 miles+
i'm using checkPOInt seperate from tom tom now for my warnings which seems to work and to prove the point.
working on my next set of investigations as into why these cause this.
this was a known issue with tom tom mobile and an app was written to recompile the poi into a useable format. maybe its the same problem here.

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Sorry if this has been answered before, but I cannot find any solutions to this on any of the forums.
TT5 running ok but 9 times out of 10 it will 'lock-up' during the journey. If I take out the SD card and reinsert it, sometimes it continues to work but after about 4 or 5 goes it locks up completely and needs a hard reset.
Someone suggested that there was still a problem with moving between cells where this would loose connection to the SD card.
Any suggestions on how to fix other than buy a new phone?
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You should have a look at those other polls to find answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...start=25&sid=23074e33c89e4a343e4520ed93d949eb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=242449#242449
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=244427#244427
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41979
To be quick, one fix has been identified to work for all the users that have tested it. Move from SD to MMC, and TT5.21 doesn't freeze anymore. Cf. BigDede poll.
I have also found out another fix that I describe in the first link regarding SD cards formatting. However, I haven't got a chance to test it on long trips yet.
Hope that will help.
EricD

After getting an Kingston 1Gb MMC+, making the same journeys, TomTom 5.21 does not lock up any more, looks like all the suggestions about MMC card actually works... SD card sucks!
Cheers everyone

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No Service and Reset Problem

I have an XDA IIi,
Since (I Think) messing around with the Terminal Services Client, I now cannot get Phone Signal, says No Service, it also reboots itself randomly.
I did a Hard Reset, Phone came back alive again.
Restored Sprite backup, problem came back.
Any idea's what I have done to cause this problem.
Many Thanks
Nick
Dont suppose you have an SD card inserted all the time do you ?
Seems slow speed / higher voltage SD cards cause big problems with the radio in the XDA IIi
The tomtom thread in this section has some info about this too, a transcend 80x card has solved problems for most.
If you dont have an SD card inserted then, disregard all i said above lol.
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Yes I did have an SD card inserted.
To get my phone back I had to do a hard reset then restored using activesync.
Thinking back this problem may have occured since formatting the sd card with non standard parameters.
I will format using windows xp format and see how it go's.
As it happens I ordered a Transcend 80x last Friday. as advised by pocketgps.com poster andy-c1. see :-
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=26506&start=45
Cheers
not that this is much of a help, more of a tip: personally I think Sprite BAckup sucks.
I stopped using it after trying it 2 times or so, as it just doesnt seem to work like it should
SPB Clone is way better, but a bit more expensive too :S
Danny-B- said:
Dont suppose you have an SD card inserted all the time do you ?
Seems slow speed / higher voltage SD cards cause big problems with the radio in the XDA IIi
The tomtom thread in this section has some info about this too, a transcend 80x card has solved problems for most.
If you dont have an SD card inserted then, disregard all i said above lol.
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Is the 1Gb version gonna be as good as the 512??
I have no idea mate sorry, i suffer like the majority as i have a cheap 1gig card that causes lockups etc ... i am seriously thinking of getting a Transcend card due to the reports everyone has gave so far and i would only really go for the 1gig size too.
Has anyone tested a 1 Gig Transcend yet?
If its the same voltage as the 512 then it should be ok but would be nice to hear some hard evidence.
NickR said:
I have an XDA IIi,
Since (I Think) messing around with the Terminal Services Client, I now cannot get Phone Signal, says No Service, it also reboots itself randomly.
I did a Hard Reset, Phone came back alive again.
Restored Sprite backup, problem came back.
Any idea's what I have done to cause this problem.
Many Thanks
Nick
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hi, my first post here :wink: . hope your problem is solved..
it seems that many ppl suffered the same problem here-- after did something to the phone, like deleted registry file which described in other post, and for me screen freeze easily after i installed some popular programme, then i soft reboot it and this problem appeared. no phone singnal, self-reboots every 5-10 minute, and as soon as hard reset it, it works fine. that is exactly what happen to my phone. now i have to put 101% attantion not to install the programme which is not necessary, cos you never know when it will strike! :? anyone know why, pls help out, many thanks
Yeah I too have been bitten by this bug. I am not sold that it is the SD card. I had very good luck with a Kingston 1GB standard SD card. I definitely seemed to install something that corrupted the system. I now am stuck in the loop where it gives me the No Service statement and then will spontaneously reboot. I am running:
XDAIIi - PH10C
ROM : 1.11.00 WWE
Radio : 1.04.00
Protocol : 1337.42
ExtROM : 1.11.169 WWE
Everything is current. Ran with my current setup for a good couple weeks then BAM! it started this. I am thinking that the registry got corrupted and that is what is causing this. The other reason I am not sold on the SD theory is that it is doing this if an SD card is installed or not. Periodically it works, and will pick up a signal. I am going to nuke it tonight, reinstall my stuff and resync with my computer and then will make a Sprite Backup onto my spare SD card.
I will repost to let everyone know how it goes.
Danny-B- said:
I have no idea mate sorry, i suffer like the majority as i have a cheap 1gig card that causes lockups etc ... i am seriously thinking of getting a Transcend card due to the reports everyone has gave so far and i would only really go for the 1gig size too.
Has anyone tested a 1 Gig Transcend yet?
If its the same voltage as the 512 then it should be ok but would be nice to hear some hard evidence.
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I've got the 1Gb Transcend SD card 80x and don't have any problems with it - It's the only card that I've found that hasn't locked up when using tomtom 5. Although, I've not tried my other SD cards with tomtom 5.21 only 5.1 or 5.0 which caused lock ups. I may have to give them a go. Even my Kingston Ultimate 133x caused lockups with earlier versions altough it was fine with tomtom 3.

TT5 Xda2i Tom Tom Crash

i have my xda2i and tt5 installed, and it runce nicely for an undetrmined amount of time then decides to close tomtom, i can reopen it and carry on but alas it keeps doing the same.
when i start tt5 i get the hands logo on the bottom bar apear but after every crash it seems to move along.
Any idears guys?
my old tt3 works flawlesly.
Firstly, make sure your using version 5.10, theres a small patch from the website that takes it from 5 to 5.10.
Second, consider it might be your SD card, slow older SD cards tend to make the device hang and/or slow down, which is a problem with the radio (mobile signal) and the SD card interface.
Cards above 80x speed generally work flawlessly.
Third try just a full re-install of the TT5 software, there might have been an error whilst installing thats causing it to crash.
i havent tried the update and i dont know what speed my card is, its the same card i used tomtom 5 with flawlessly in my old pda (loox600).
I'll try the update and see what happens.
Try this
Use the poi.dat from tt3.
I had a problem with the new rom where it crashed from time to time & also i couldn't nav to the poi without it crashing.
I used the poi.dat & i can now nav. it doesn't let me call the poi but it might solve your problem.
yay! when i used the tt5 poi and navigate to, it gave me the categories but no destinations when selected then would promptly crash, i put the tt3 poi.dat in and it will now searcha and nav to without crashing. will take her out on the road tonight and if i can get to my mums and back then alls well.
was a pain cos i went to newcastle a month ago (375mile) and it just kept crashing, i had to run it in guidance mode (no map, poi) so it must be the poi then cos it didnt crash like that.
will let you know my findings then you have a definitive answer for all you out there with the same issue.
Awesome :lol:
Happy with that if it works
What version of the rom are you running by chance?
ok, it dont crash now but it's so much slower in refreshing the map, about half the speed it was.
has anyone got an unaltered tt5 pio.dat file they can upload for me to try, i'm wondering if its happened when i used my free trial of tt plus and added thier speed camera databases. i could reinstall the maps but i'm nowhere near the orginal disk at the moment as its at work and i'm 'ill'.
I have a tomtom mobile pio which worked for a while then crashes, and have somone sending me a few different TT Go pio.dat's. worth testing them all.
my roms listed below chap.
Here is POI from TT 5.10, you said in your post that you had TT's speed camera database but I thought that you had to take out a 12 month contract.
HyperFire said:
ok, it dont crash now but it's so much slower in refreshing the map, about half the speed it was.
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You need to uncheck all the POIs you don't want to see on the map, that is what is slowing it down.
i activated the tt plus trial on the website for a month and grabbed all the extras, although i use pocketgpsworld.com for my speed camera databases.
I have all the poi deactivated already.
will try this poi.dat and keep you all posted as i know others with the same issues as i'm having.
i've tried a working 5 & it crashes but mine works fine with the 3 one. you could always delete all poi.dat & see if it is faster.
its still dying, with all tt pio.dat files. pain in the bottom, someone else on here has mentioned they have fixed this issue. grr
Is your copy a proper license? I used to use a pirate copy before I deceided to use the real thing. The pirate copy crashed all the time as you explained but the real copy wotks just fine.
genuine. though i have done updates and added my own poi, just wondering is any other software is clashing.
been using tt since version 2 and have had bothe mobile versions on a nokia.
if your sd card is not a 80x speed it will crash all the time ,have you tried a transend 80x card as it has been established to work well and isn't that expensive
I'm using a kingston elite pro (50X) SD Card with tomtom 5.10 with ALL the POI's checked and ALL the pocketgps.co.uk speed camera datebase POI's checked with alerts for the speed camera's and i have never had a lockup whilst driving using tomtom.
Maybe try hard-resetting your XDAIIi and installing everything manually NOT using sprite. That's what i did and my tomtom seems to work flawlessly.
What bluetooth gps are you using?
ive tried hard reset a few time, even only with tt on it. no luck.
i'm not sure what speed my card is, but looks like this is most probably the cause then, matter of finding some cash then i think, or getting just a small 128 80x to stuff it on for when i need it.
tried it without the pio.dat file, still crashes. grrr.
Yes, bearing in mind i have a soley-devoted kingston elite pro 512mb just for the GB Plus map and the French map.
Perhaps if you get rid of all the other stuff from the card by formatting it in a card reader, try using "media recover" search around for it on google as it will wipe the card clean, this takes a while, but it will restore your card to it's original condition when you first bought it.
Then for the formatting, try reading this post i posted ages ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21920&highlight=lydiachris
Format your card this way to produce the best read/write times.
Now put all your data back onto your card, just copy then paste the files from your pc to your sd card. This will produce no fragmetation therefor your XDAIIi will not have to search around for the desired data on the card.
Give this a go and post your outcomes.
yay, i found a apprently modified ttn.cab file through file share, installed it to my xda, it downgraded me from 5.1 to 5.0 but hasnt crashed or paused since, although ive only tried it locally, it seems fine, trying to find the time to take it 50 miles+ and see if it works
gonna try out your formating trick soon chap, will keep you posted
New XDA2i - TomTom 5.10 crash/freezing....
Hi all!
I got my new XDA2i through insurance after my 1st one's screen smashed. Installed all my apps etc including the TomTom 5.1 update andddddd it freezes every so often again ! dammm!
So, I double checked everything, all ok, the only thing I can think of is that the newer ROM this handset has is the cause of the lockups again.
I've looked through the postings on this topic and see slightly different versions on the radio version, protocol version etc.
This new XDA2i (I havent changed the ROM) is
ROM - 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date - 01/27/05
Radio Version - 1.00.00
Protocol Version - 1337.39
EXTROM version - 1.11.162 WWE
Is it possible that some of these versions are known to cause a problem even with the updated 5.1? ( by the way I have the special Bakonl update )
I use a Sandisk 1GB Card (normal speed), the TomTom silver BT GPS unit.
Interestingly, my brothers 'spare' XDA2s with this setup works flawlessly, so I know my install, SD card, GPS all work fine.
Any ideas guys? how do I update say just the radio version? or protocol version? so that my version match another user's version which are working with TT5.1 ?
I was really looking forward to getting GPS all working again as I've missed it these last 2 months ! and now it's doing that annoying freezing again!
Any ideas, recommendations, things to try will be greatly appreciated!
Cheers! Dennis! West London UK!!

New Transcend 1GB SD card causing TomTom 5.21 to lock up

Hi there,
It looks like newer Transcend cards are not immune to the TomTom lock up issue.
I have an O2 branded XDA2i with PUGS rom etc. It runs TomTom5.21 fine with the first Transcend 1GB card I bought.
When I'm in the car, I have the phone connected to my car kit via bluetooth. When I make a call, TomTom continues to run, but shows the mute symbol. When I hang up the call, TomTom carries on as normal.
I decided to buy another Trancend card as a backup. This time, though whenever I make a call - TomTom locks up. As in other peoples posts, sometimes this can be cured by pulling the card and re-inserting, other times a soft reset is required.
I thought I'd got a faulty card, so bought another with the intention of returning the faulty one.
The new card shows the same problem.
All three cards were bought within two months of each other.
Anybody else seeing issues with new Transcend cards anfd TomTom?
Cheers,
Chris.
Could you have a look to how are your cards format?
32kb in fat32?
May be they are different...
It's interesting!
Hi there,
I used PocketMechanic to reformat the card to the same spec as the working card. Also tried many other combinations.
Dosn't make any difference on either of the two non working cards.
Perhaps my XDA is extra sensitive to power or speed of the card - but the two newer cards are definetly different.
Be warned all of you that think Transcend is the Holy Grail for SD cards.
Chris.
I have lockups using transcend 2gb 150x...tried several different format tools - it didn't help...
i don't know what to do with it...=(
I can't even listen to music because of pauses... I even tried a player which cashes songs into ram.... but what is strange - it didn't help...
but I think thats because of player didn't cash anything but said that did...
because I don't understand how can it stop playing for 1-2 seconds each minute with cash for 5mb or 5 minutes of music... =|
There is another post related to the same subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=240871#240871
I am experiencing the same problem.
I've bought the 1GB x80 TRANSCEND SD card a little less than a month ago because it was supposed to cure all QTEK2020i problems.
But in fact it hasn't changed ANYthing compared to the LEXAR x32 1GB I was using before.
So, I decided to upgrade my QTEK rom with PUGS rom while taking the risk of voiding the QTEK warranty.
Unfortunatly, it hasn't solved my problems either. It seemed more stable initialy, and has cured GPRS usage problems and brought slighlty better GSM quality, but that's all with my settings.
Someone has reported this week, that moving from SD to MMC has cured his TT5 problems.
I keep my fingers crossed hoping that this one will be the right fix.
For people who bought their PDA through EXPANSYS, I encourage you to join this support poll:
http://www.expansys.com/forumthread.asp?code=121444&thread=35&man=QTEK
And for those who bought the QTEK version of this PDA, I encourage you to complain about the lack of any suppoet on that product.
look at my solution here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43143
hope that will help..[/url]
Ice_mephi said:
look at my solution here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43143
hope that will help..[/url]
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I am sorry Ice_mephi but I don't see any solution there, or I've mistunderstood your comments.
I understand that your SD card might have had errors and they got fixed with the StorageTools application, but I don't see any link between this problem and the TT5.21 freezes. Thanks anyway for mentionning this application.
Listening to music out of any SD card has never been a problem for me, and hans't ben reported as being one from polls I've read so far.
Have I mistunderstood anything ?
I've been using the Transcend 80x 1Gb card with Tom Tom 5.21 on my XDAIIi with absolutely no problems at all for at least a month now (including traffic updates via GPRS). I used tha card as supplied, without reformatting etc.
Andy R said:
I've been using the Transcend 80x 1Gb card with Tom Tom 5.21 on my XDAIIi with absolutely no problems at all for at least a month now (including traffic updates via GPRS). I used tha card as supplied, without reformatting etc.
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Hello Andy, also including POIS? Or only with the default installation.
Yes - I have POIs installed. It is set to remind me when I am near petrol stations and wi-fi hotspots (which I have set up myself).
I couldn't believe that the type of SD card would solve this, but it did, and I have never had a problem since!
Andy R said:
Yes - I have POIs installed. It is set to remind me when I am near petrol stations and wi-fi hotspots (which I have set up myself).
I couldn't believe that the type of SD card would solve this, but it did, and I have never had a problem since!
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SD? Another users say that the MMC is working better. :?
I have trascend SD 1Gb 80x, without pois it works perfect, but with them I have freezes... :?
From my experience, changing from a LEXAR x32 1GB to a TRANSCEND x80 1GB didn't solve the problem. Other persons mentionned that they got to the same conclusion with latest TRANSCEND SD cards.
Changing the SD formatting seems to have fixed most of TT5 issues with my TRANSCEND card but I haven't got on trip for hours to confirm it.
People who moved from SD to MMC seem to have got rid of any TT5 freezes.
EricD
MMC is the way ahead
I've tried all the stuff mentioned here, including getting a transcend sd card, and although it behaved for about an hour, it started freezing and locking regular after that. I now use a 1Gb TwinMOS MMC+ card, and after 400miles yesterday have not had a single problem. Take what you want from this, but my TT5.21 seems to prefer MMC.
MMC.... is the answer
Replaced my Transcend 1Gb & SanDisk Extreme III SD's for MMC and had no more lockups since
See this similiar post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=240871#240871

Major sd card problem. We need to fix this.

Well I recently ran into an SD card problem. To find a solution I have searched many forums and Google. None have offered any solution. On my search for answers I have found at least 100+ G1 owners with the same problem. All posting within the last month. The error we are getting is "SD card removed. insert new sd card".
All threads I have come across have suggested to reformat the sd card, repartition, use ADB, cyans recovery image, to fix this problem. None of the above solutions have worked. A majority of the threads the G1 owners were still able to use there sd card with there pc.
Now I know this is in the right section. We need a developer to figure this out. A g1 without a sd card is like a g1 that is bricked. It is horrible not being able to download, play music, shoot pictures, ect.
i ran into this issue on a friends g1. came to find out he dropped it and the sd card would neved get seated correctly in the sd slot. i had to wiggle it a bit before the phone recognized it
Now we are getting some where. This solution didn't help me but might help others in the future when they use the search feature.
I had this problem on one of the roms I was using, maybe Dude's cupcake?
Wipe of the phone fixed it.
I have whiped and upgraded to new roms. My problem began when I entered a command into terminal to fix another problem. After that I whiped and updated to cyans.
I have experienced this 1 time only. When it happened to me, I removed it from the phone completely and checked it in my card reader. It picked up on the PC just fine and everything was still intact, so I knew the card was still good. I rebooted the phone without it and then shut down. Reinserted the card in the phone and booted into recovery. I ran the fix partitions thing and rebooted again. Problem solved. I personally haven't had any other problems since then. I was told on another forum as well that when you flash a new rom or even a new theme to run the partition fix included with cyans recovery. Something to do with apps2sd I think? I have just gotten into that habit and no more issues. Good luck.
I think I might have changed a path on my phone while in terminal and thats what is causing my problem. I can't get cyans recovery because my phone isn't reading the sdcard for me to install it. Also, good post I am sure your solution will help many!
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I had this problem on one of the roms I was using, maybe Dude's cupcake?
Wipe of the phone fixed it.
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Same for me. With Dude's it wouldn't read my SD card. Wiped, installed Cyanogen's ROM, wiped again, and the problem instantly went away.
Have you tried another SD card in the device? One that you know is good and working in another unit. I screwed up one of my older smaller cards trying to make a Goldcard. It has never worked since.
I tried that a few days ago. No luck there. Im glad were getting this thread going. So far I see a lot of good solutions. Best part about this is all the information is all in one place! If anyone has any input please do tell.
Do you have another card to test out? Have you tried to mount/unmount the card with the phone on? I know if a rom has built in apps2sd the unmount/format option is grayed out. Maybe try to take the card out with the phone on and reboot and then put it back in? Not sure what all to try. I know I was frustrated when mine was doing that as well.
This would happen to me all the time with the camera. I would take two or three photos, then I'd get a message that I need to insert an SD card.
I think the problem was the card. I was using a Patriot 4GB Class 6 card from Fry's. I switched to a Transcend 8GB Class 6 card and have not had any problems since.
It sucks having to buy a new card if you already have one, but $18 for a good quality 8gb card is pretty reasonable.
I have class6 card that does this.. I also have other card that don't .. in the case with my class 6 card it works fine untill I use it for apps to sd, wich in my case renders it useless..
It's word cuz it will load everything fine and run, but then freez up in the middle of use. That's when I know it unmounted itself. Then I'm forced to pull battary out or reboot.. I have truer every methed to fix it with no luck...
Mine is a 4gb c6 card and other than the 1 time, I've had no further problems. I have run A2SD for quite a while even before it was included with different roms.
First comment: Why is this in this section.
Most of these I've seen have been mechanical (poor card seating) - poor card contacts. Swapping the card has always removed the issue for me.
I've had 2 cheaper sd cards go bad. they looked like they worked fine when i put them in a card reader and plugged into a linux box -- but only at first glance.
further inspection revealed bad sectors and damage to the storage. Since i got a nice class 6, it has seemed fine -- i think you get what you pay for a lot of times.
Not to be crass, but this does not belong in this section of the board. Just because one seeks the expertise of developer, doesn't make it ok to post a thread in this forum.
My $.02
I agree, I also think it was cards that were just made bad I guess that's what I get for buying a cheap class 6 transcend from target lol..
Bad SD Card Slot
This happened to me to a week ago after flashing a new Rom, thought I do not think that the flashing had anything to do with it. I tried everything wiggling it , cleaning connection, reformatting. The card worked in other phones and computer but mine. I just think it went bad. Nevertheless after 5 days of getting no where I had T-Mobile send me a replacement
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This happened to me to a week ago after flashing a new Rom, thought I do not think that the flashing had anything to do with it. I tried everything wiggling it , cleaning connection, reformatting. The card worked in other phones and computer but mine. I just think it went bad. Nevertheless after 5 days of getting no where I had T-Mobile send me a replacement
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I should add that I also tried 2 new card as well both class 6
this is in the right section. If you havent noticed this a spread problem among many. We have tried other Sd cards. They do not work. This is a internal problem. Thats why its in the developers section. This post will save others from having to post about this same issues if they can find all the answers here. That being said if you have a problem with it maybe you should explain to me why brick threads, ect are ok in this section? There is nothing wrong with my sd card. Just like there isnt anything wrong with the other 5 sd cards I tried.
Google this you will find a lot of people having the same problem.

VERY SLOW AT&T Tilt ---- Maybe fixed?

I know that I am not the ONLY one to have a problem with an incredibly PAINFULLY slow Tilt. It is a surprise im not finding WAY more posts on this forum about it.
Lets cover the basics first:
Stock 6.1 Rom
Stock Radio
LOADS of programs
All Kaiser Tweaks performed
Tom Tom Navi 7....Full USA and Canada on SD Card
18.12 Meg free storage and 50.39 Meg free program memory (At the time of this post)
Lets cover the issues next:
HOLYYYY SLOW.....click on "messaging" and 20 seconds later it would come up.
SLOWWWW Texting.... Start typing and 10 seconds after finishing typing the screen would catch up.
SLOWWWW deleting messages.... it would take about 5 minutes to delete a batch of 10 text messages with just "Hi" written in them.
SLOWWWWW Tom Tom...I know some of this is related to the "Class action issue" but it was never THISSS slow. Only got really slow after I installed USA CANADA on SD card.
FIX????:
Sitting at work here, I was bored. I decided to pop out my SD card (PNY SDHC 4GB). On the SD card I have: Tom Tom (Map only), ScummVM, DCIM (Cam Pics), Doom, Quake.... Nothing system related.
As soon as I removed the card....BAM...EVERYTHING IS FAST.
Like mega fast.... no lag on the keys with texts....deletes texts fast...system menus are fast....programs load instantly...."control panel" loads instantly. Even GPSTEST gets a fix almost immediately!!!!
So whats the fix?? 98% of us use SD cards. and the other 2% would not be looking at this post because they dont have the speed issues.
Is it the SDHC?? I know that causes problems with alot of other devices (Wii, Digi Camera for example). maybe fragmented card???? maybe crappy card????
Does anyone else concur with this find???
Im pretty sure I didnt overlook this post somewhere else....so dont flame if I did!
Tom
Sounds like it's time to try a new card. Mine would be slow, sometimes stop responding. A new storage card and all was well. The old card works fine in my card reader on my desktop, just not the tilt.
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I know that I am not the ONLY one to have a problem with an incredibly PAINFULLY slow Tilt. It is a surprise im not finding WAY more posts on this forum about it.
Lets cover the basics first:
Stock 6.1 Rom
Stock Radio
LOADS of programs
All Kaiser Tweaks performed
Tom Tom Navi 7....Full USA and Canada on SD Card
18.12 Meg free storage and 50.39 Meg free program memory (At the time of this post)
Lets cover the issues next:
HOLYYYY SLOW.....click on "messaging" and 20 seconds later it would come up.
SLOWWWW Texting.... Start typing and 10 seconds after finishing typing the screen would catch up.
SLOWWWW deleting messages.... it would take about 5 minutes to delete a batch of 10 text messages with just "Hi" written in them.
SLOWWWWW Tom Tom...I know some of this is related to the "Class action issue" but it was never THISSS slow. Only got really slow after I installed USA CANADA on SD card.
FIX????:
Sitting at work here, I was bored. I decided to pop out my SD card (PNY SDHC 4GB). On the SD card I have: Tom Tom (Map only), ScummVM, DCIM (Cam Pics), Doom, Quake.... Nothing system related.
As soon as I removed the card....BAM...EVERYTHING IS FAST.
Like mega fast.... no lag on the keys with texts....deletes texts fast...system menus are fast....programs load instantly...."control panel" loads instantly. Even GPSTEST gets a fix almost immediately!!!!
So whats the fix?? 98% of us use SD cards. and the other 2% would not be looking at this post because they dont have the speed issues.
Is it the SDHC?? I know that causes problems with alot of other devices (Wii, Digi Camera for example). maybe fragmented card???? maybe crappy card????
Does anyone else concur with this find???
Im pretty sure I didnt overlook this post somewhere else....so dont flame if I did!
Tom
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Sounds like you have manila on your phone with lots of mp3s on the sd card.
In Testing
Still working with it. Bought a Kingston SDHC 8 gb card from newegg. I will try that tonight probably!
Tom
ChumleyEX said:
Sounds like you have manila on your phone with lots of mp3s on the sd card.
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No Manila..... tho there are alot of MPEG type files on the card.... haha ;-)
So did we conclude that the microsd card was the problem? I got the same issues but I was thinking of reformatting the card instead of replacing it.
ragutom said:
Still working with it. Bought a Kingston SDHC 8 gb card from newegg. I will try that tonight probably!
Tom
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Hey ragutom,
What is going on?
Please, I'm so eager to hear from you.
n.
i appologize....i have not been able to try it yet....very busy week....As I am sitting here typing this tho....the cursor is barely keeping up.
i will let you all know soon though.
tom
If that didn't fix it, try removing all of the mp3's from it.
I took my card out and its still slow. Will a build up of text messages cause the phone to go slow?
Usually when U dont clear out alot of your sent, text or inbox stuff it build up & slows down the Tilt also. And cleaning up those cookies (if any) might work as well.
I've had these issues before.
It's because there isn't much room n the SD card. I had movies on my card for a while with just a little room left... removed them and wallah!!! fast-o change-o.
8 gig card? i thought the kaiser only supported up to a 2gig sd card.
UPDATE!!!!
ok
so its been a while since I posted..... I have been checking the posts as they come in....but havent been replying (sorry! reallly busy)
Everyone seems to have good points and ideas.
Obviously there may be many solutions to this problem..
I did finally get the 8 gig kingston card in.... moved everything off the old card...onto my comp...then back on the new card. everything is faster now.
I dont think it was entirely the card though......
Message management sped up entirely after i deleted the 500+ emails (some with large attachments) that i didnt realize were being saved in the deleted folder! (I usually keep my text folder clean)
Tom Tom sped up after i hid the USA CANADA map from the program and downloaded my "one free local map". Now I use the local map for MOST things....and the VERY SLOW USA CANADA map for trips out of the area (not common) ((((If anyone has any suggestions for this let me know)))) to give an example....I put it on demo mode with the USA CANADA and it took 10 minutes to go 1 mile in 100% mode.....local takes only a minute for the same stretch.
Picture taking still sucks. Although I have WAY more free space....
Typing in messages sped up to..... probably cuz of deleting messages too.....
hopefully this answers some questions......its not the end all solution that I was thinking tho.....
But to answer one question fully...... the Tilt does support 8 gig cards and SDHC compliance
Tom
ahighone said:
8 gig card? i thought the kaiser only supported up to a 2gig sd card.
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No, supports up to 32 gb sdhc. I'm using a 16 gb one
I have installed new ROM (Thanks a million shifu) and the result is powerful little gadget. Works great, no slowing down. Just one small problem with hardware keyboard and wrong Fn signs.
Hope it helps.
Nele12 said:
I have installed new ROM (Thanks a million shifu) and the result is powerful little gadget. Works great, no slowing down. Just one small problem with hardware keyboard and wrong Fn signs.
Hope it helps.
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You just need the Tilt Keyboard Fix to correct the FN keys.
mrdiavolo, thanks, did it, didn't help.
My phone is TytnII not Tilt, and the cab helps when you are flashing a non AT&T ROM onto the Tilt.
Thanks anyway.
Nele12 said:
mrdiavolo, thanks, did it, didn't help.
My phone is TytnII not Tilt, and the cab helps when you are flashing a non AT&T ROM onto the Tilt.
Thanks anyway.
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