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Below I have copied all the emails sent and recieved regarding this problem with my XDA2i and TT5 Freezing when I try to use GPRS to Downlaod Traffic. See responses and be assured Tomtom seem to be looking into it!
Cheers
Lee
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Dear Tomtom,
I have a major problem with my XDA2i and the TT5 Traffic updates. When ever I try to use my GPRS connection on the move to download your Traffic Updates that I have subscribed to, TomTom 5 Freezes. The PDA still works when TT5 freezes, I know this because I can use one of the hardware buttons to exit TT5 and open the Calendar. If I do this TT5 remains running in the background and cannot be stopped until I reset the XDA2i. At all times the GPS Bluelight is lit up as if it is connected.
I have paid for a 1 year subscription for the Traffic Updates and kindly ask you to either fix the problem or refund my traffic subscription money.
The Traffic Updates cannot be downloaded therefore it is very unfair that I have to pay for a service I can not use as intended.
I am pleased to see that you now support the XDA2i and look forward to hearing from you very soon.
http://www.tomtom.com/products/compatibility.php?ID=109&Language=1
By the way, I have installed the latest TT5 5.10 update and the new O2 ROM v1.11.162 update for the XDA2i, it still doesn't work properly. My SD Card is a Corsair 1GB SD1GBA0506H3S37WN and I have tried it using a 512mb SD card. I have even tried the Corporte install on the XDA2i and that doesn't work either.
Tomtom 5 is a very worthy upgrade over the TT3 version and I thankyou for providing a product that is Far better than ever before, I just wish you could sort this Freeze problem out.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks
Lee
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Just thought i'd tell you that when the XDA2i TT5 Freezes if I removed the SD card it imiediatley starts working again! Then what I do is reinsert the SD card, the only probelm is, the Map is on the SD card and by removing it makes it lose the map on screen and cannot be recoverd unless I exit TT5 and Restart again.
It looks like it may be a SD card issue, the problem is I have tried many different SD cards, 512mb, 1gb 60x speed and now ive got a new SD card 1gb Sandisk Ultra III 133x speed and that still freezes.
Any ideas to which will work?
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Dear Mr Donnellan,
We are looking into this issue. Could you please write us the ROM version you have installed on your XDA2i?
We thank you in advance for your cooperation.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
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Hi,
In response to your answer to my question please find the Detaisl you have requested below:-
ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/27/05
Radio Version 1.00.00
Protocol Version: 1337.39
ExtROM Version: 1.11.162 WWE
I updated to this rom to try and fix the issue as the original ROM from O2 didn't work as far as TT5 is concerned. I could run the TT5 program but was slightly more unstable than it is now.
Thanks
Lee
The same happens with mine too (Or used to) i havnt had chance to check if it still freezes as often after i updated to the new ROM version but the one that includes the newer Radio ROM version.
I found that if you take out the sd card then re-insert it quickly, it continues on fine, no Map loss.
The freeze problem is almost certainly to do with the Radio locking up the SD somehow, which should be up to O2 (or HTC) to sort out.
I find my phone freezes sometimes when i recieve a call, but removing the SD card sorts the problem.
As i said ... i've not ad the chance to test TomTom since i updated but, i havnt had ANY lockups or freezes with calls since.
I feel like crying
At last someone else with the same problem. I can add a little though: -
I have a panasonic 128MB card which works with traffic perfectly, I have 2 x 1GB SD cards, 1 PNY and 1 Viking both of which fail to update the traffic information - exactly the same, remove the card and everything seems to clear up. What I can't understand is that if I use my Panasonic card it works perfectly even if just before the reboot it would not work with one of the 1GB cards no reinstallation of TOMTOM or changing of any of the settings. Not sure if it is size or quality related ? The cards all work as "simple satnav cards" perfectly.
The other point is that if I am not connected to the BT reciever (I plan a route and then run a demo as an example) all of the cards work perfectly.
They only fail when the GPS information is availible.
Kind Regards
Dave Cook
I downloaded the 5.10 upgrade in the hope it would solve my xdaii freezing up every time i got a phone call, but it is still the same . In tt5 when the upgrade is installed is the Version (5.00 - 5.10) supposed to change ?? as mine stay's the same (v5.00) . i expect you're all as fustrated as i am at not being able to use both the phone and tt.
Steve
ROM VER:1.72
ROM DATE: 03/15/04
RADIO VER:1.17.00
PROTOCOL VER 1337.28
EXT ROM VER: 1.72.181
RE: TT5 to TT5.i version display.
I have TTN5.1 on my XDAIIi and it displays version 5.1. At a guess I would say your upgrade did not install correctly. After upgrade it displays on your PDA to re-install certain TTN apps, did you say yes to this, if so I can't see why your upgrade did not work. :twisted:
It will be interesting to see if TomTom do find a solution, but based on my experiences I don't think it is TomTom that is the problem.
I have a SanDisk 512MB SD card that runs just fine with Navigator 5.1 and the phone switched on. I also have a SanDisk 2GB SD card which exhibits the classic TomTom freeze.
The key fact is that Media Player also freezes with the 2GB card when the phone is on and it seems to happen when the phone switches to a new transmitter cell. The 2GB card works fine with Media Player when I switch to flight mode.
The fact that Media Player exhibits freezing in the same way as TomTom due to the radio having some unfortunate interaction with larger SD cards leads me to believe the fault is more fundamental to the device/operating system rather than a fault within TomTom.
I think therefore it needs a fix from Microsoft/HTC but I won't hold my breath as they already probably consider XDAIIi's running WM2003SE as a legacy platform, now that the Universal/WM2005 combination is imminent.
Anyone else had similar problems with Media Player freezing or any other application accessing a large SD card with the phone active?
Device: XDAIIi
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
Radio version: 1.03.00
ExtROM version: 1.11.162 WWE
Yeah same for me mate, i posted a a reply with similar findings a couple of posts up ^
I think i'll be going for an upgrade when my contract runs out (6 months )
Radio ROM version 1.03 is better it seems to make the freezes less regular.
I agree, I think the same as you guys. It probably is O2's responsibility and will need a fix on their part to resolve it. However using TomTom Support who state they now support the XDA2i, Tomtom have more clout when it comes to persuading O2 to sort it out rather than little old me and will hopefully get a fix in the near future. The response I recieved has been far better than any previous responses from Tomtom and does encourage me knowing they are at least researching the problem which is now shown in the My Questions of Tomtom website. (Unanswered has now changed to Researching)
Fingers crossed hopefully Tomtom are talking to O2 to work it out.
Watch this space.
Cheers
Lee
Referring to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26986&highlight=
and this
http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=58132
it might be the similar problem of formatting your SDcard in FAT 16 instead of FAT 32
Apparently these programs use the SD card to store information and they can only read FAT 16
Give it a try.
d.zee, thanks for the idea but no joy I'm afraid.
My SD Card was already formatted with FAT16. So I tried a re-formatting to FAT32 but Media Player froze again. I haven't tried TomTom but doubt it would perform any better.
Tomtom have replied, see below :-
Cheers
Lee
Dear Tomtom, I have a major problem with my XDA2i and the TT5 Traffic updates...
Discussion Thread
Customer 31/08/2005 08.10 AM
Dear Tomtom,
When enabling flight mode, both the Bluetooth and Phone are turned off. Turning on the flight mode will stop me from connecting my GPS receiver via Bluetooth and stop me from making a GPRS data connection via the Phone to download Traffic Updates.
Just to clarify the situation here, Tomtom 5 works brilliantly with my current configuration apart from the Tomtom Traffic Updates. If I have my Phone switched on or off Tomtom 5 will navigate me to where ever I need to go without many glitches, however I have subscribed to your Tomtom Traffic and find I can not use Traffic at all because when I try to download Traffic Updates via the GPRS connection (using the Phone which your asking me to turn off in flight mode)Tomtom will freeze.
I can remove and reinsert the SD card to get Tomtom to start working again but the map is no longer available as Tomtom thinks the SD card and maps are no longer present. The only other way to get Tomtom to work again is to reset my device. The PDA at all times remains useable just Tomtom that freezes.
In answer to your question, turning flightmode on stops me from using Tomtom 5 altogether, so that isn't the answer to the problem. If I was to turn the phone off but keep flightmode off allowing Bluetooth to continue to work, that still doesn't fix the GPRS connection as the phone is off so a GPRS connection cannot be made.
As you know I have paid a lot of money for the Tomtom Traffic subscription and cannot use it, therefore can I remind you that if you can't fix this problem, I would be grateful if you can refund my money for the Traffic subscription.
(I would rather you fix the problem!, a lot of other people are having exactly the same problem and is driving down the resale value of the XDA2i)
Can I take this opertunity to thankyou for your interest in this issue and thankyou for looking into the problem, I look forward to hearing from you again.
Flightmode off = Phone On, Bluetooth On (Yes GPRS and Yes GPS)
Flightmode on = Phone off, Bluetooth off (No GPRS, No GPS)
I can do this via a sim password
Flightmode off = Phone off, Bluetooth on (No GPRS, Yes GPS)
Lee
Response 29/08/2005 04.24 PM
Dear Mr Donnellan,
Could you please try to enable flight mode and write us if that works?
We are trying to find out which is the problem.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
Response 29/08/2005 04.24 PM
Dear Mr Donnellan,
Could you please try to enable flight mode and write us if that works?
We are trying to find out which is the problem.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
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OMG i cant believe the reply ! I can safely say .. they never read the email properly lol
The problem lies with the OS/Radio ROM not TomTom as the freezing happens with other applications too not just TomTom, so its a job for the Mobile operators and/or device makers.
If they upgraded us to WM2005 then i think all the problems would disapear, sign my petition link in my signture.
Danny,
I couldn't believe it either, how can they fix the problem if they don't even know what the problem is!! lol
Anyway, at least they are still looking into it, in hope that they can speak to O2 to get it sorted or at least give me my Traffic money back.
I have tried to sign your petition and I managed to get it to load up the form but when I submitted it it fails.
Let me know if it works or not at your end and i'll try again when it does.
Good idea by the way keep it up and lets hope alot of people sign it.
All the best
Lee
Hi mate, your name is entered in the petition, the last name on the list atm
It would be nice if TomTom contacted O2 to complain about their incompatibilitys, although judging by the response you got from them, i think that extracting blood from a stone may be easier !
Things are moving Fast! Tomtom have replied already, here it is:-
Response 01/09/2005 12.24 PM
Dear Mr Donnellan,
We thank you for your feedback. We were thinking that you were experiencing freezing issues also when navigating.
We have run a test here with an XDA2i and ROM version 1.10 and it worked fine when updating traffic information. We will try with version 1.11.
Which GPS receiver are you using?
If you do not use the GPS and you only try to update traffic, is it working?
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
Dear Tomtom, I have a major problem with my XDA2i and the TT5 Traffic updates...
Discussion Thread
Customer 01/09/2005 05.20 PM
Dear Tomtom,
Thankyou again for looking into this problem. You are correct in saying the Freeze problem is only when I try to download Traffic Updates. Using Tomtom on a day to day basis works fine using my Tomtom GPS Bluetooth Receiver.
The freeze problem only occurs when downloading Traffic Updates or even Weather. However; I have managed to get it to work now and then! 97% on the time it freezes.
I have tried to download traffic with the following setups:-
1) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle.
2) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix.
3) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Not Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix.
4) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix whilst driving.
5) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle and demonstration mode running.
All cause it to freeze! sometimes it will work but 97% time doesn't.
When it Freezes this is what happens, The Symbol for Downloading the Updates shows an arrow and flickers whilst the downloading is being carried out, when it freezes the arrow stops moving, I think it stops at the point it tries to use the data. It seems to download the data but can't finalize the data to be used.
However please note the following setups:-
1) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle and wireless WiFi connected to the internet.
2) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Not Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle and wireless WiFi connected to the internet.
3) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Not Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix docked to activesync on my PC connected to the internet.
All work every time! The problem here is I don't drive with a PC or Wireless connection to Wifi so Traffic Updates cannot be updated on route when I need them.
The GPS Reciever I have is:-
Tomtom Bluetooth GPS Receiver (Mark 1, a little silver rectangle shaped box)
Hope that answers your question and helps you resolve this problem.
Please let me know which SD card you have tested this out on, you say yours works, I am interested in your setup. Why would yours work yet many many other XDA2i 's don't? Maybe we could compare XDA2i 's. Compare the following:-
SD card
ROM Version with Radio version etc.
Where you installed your Tomtom Program, all on the SD card or only maps on the SD card?
Corporate Install or Personal install?
Kind Regards
Lee
All evidence is now pointing towards it being an issue with certain types of SD card.
Has your device ever stuck on say the start menu, you pop out the SD card and all is fine......
No but it has been slugish with the SD card in and when taken out it becomes ok. That was with the slower SD cards I have used in the past, that problem has been fixed with a faster SD card.
Cheers
Lee
bluebotle said:
No but it has been slugish with the SD card in and when taken out it becomes ok. That was with the slower SD cards I have used in the past, that problem has been fixed with a faster SD card.
Cheers
Lee
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Perhaps not for you, but for others it has.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=26506
Well my Transcend card arrived yesterday, but I had no real opportunity to test it until today.
So I sit here now, over 300 miles and 10 hours later and not a single freeze. Phone calls, GPRS file transfers, downloading mail, SMSs, MMSs and Traffic Information, both on TomTom and Traffic-I, the XDA IIi performed flawlessly, something that it has NEVER done since I got it, and i do not just mean with TomTom running.
So the answer is a Transcend 80x SD card, I don't think it is as much to do with the speed though, most likely power consumption/voltage issues as Pocket Mechanic shows the speed of the card being as quick as one of the ones that it replaced.
MaskedMarauder said:
Well my Transcend card arrived yesterday, but I had no real opportunity to test it until today.
So I sit here now, over 300 miles and 10 hours later and not a single freeze. Phone calls, GPRS file transfers, downloading mail, SMSs, MMSs and Traffic Information, both on TomTom and Traffic-I, the XDA IIi performed flawlessly, something that it has NEVER done since I got it, and i do not just mean with TomTom running.
So the answer is a Transcend 80x SD card, I don't think it is as much to do with the speed though, most likely power consumption/voltage issues as Pocket Mechanic shows the speed of the card being as quick as one of the ones that it replaced.
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and i can say the same, been using it a little more than MaskedMarauder and have not had a single lockup due to traffic or phone being on
in fact i have just found out if you press the hang up button it minimizes tt and when you press tt again it starts instantly
Hi, my XDAIIi locks after a call most times I have upgraded the ROM to the latested on this site which is higher than the XDA repair centre can offer. I am getting to the point of using this as a PDA and sat Nav only and buy a phone to talk on. is there any golden rules that I should be doing to keep it from locking up all the time. I have also done a hard reset and used the code 0506 to not loag the O2 junk.
Any Ideas before I turn this in to a PDA only?????????????
yes
you need to get a faster sd card this is a known problem on the 2i
buy a transcend 80x card and you will be fine ...but it must be 80x, has been found to work well
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Hi I do have a 1G 60X card but we have two other XDAIIi at work both only running standard set up with no card and they have the same issues with locking up. My phone is now a Nokia 6310i currently until I can find a fix as again I have missed a number of important calls even know the phone was on my deskin the usb cradle. which is not what I wanted.
All ideas please.
i have my xda2i and tt5 installed, and it runce nicely for an undetrmined amount of time then decides to close tomtom, i can reopen it and carry on but alas it keeps doing the same.
when i start tt5 i get the hands logo on the bottom bar apear but after every crash it seems to move along.
Any idears guys?
my old tt3 works flawlesly.
Firstly, make sure your using version 5.10, theres a small patch from the website that takes it from 5 to 5.10.
Second, consider it might be your SD card, slow older SD cards tend to make the device hang and/or slow down, which is a problem with the radio (mobile signal) and the SD card interface.
Cards above 80x speed generally work flawlessly.
Third try just a full re-install of the TT5 software, there might have been an error whilst installing thats causing it to crash.
i havent tried the update and i dont know what speed my card is, its the same card i used tomtom 5 with flawlessly in my old pda (loox600).
I'll try the update and see what happens.
Try this
Use the poi.dat from tt3.
I had a problem with the new rom where it crashed from time to time & also i couldn't nav to the poi without it crashing.
I used the poi.dat & i can now nav. it doesn't let me call the poi but it might solve your problem.
yay! when i used the tt5 poi and navigate to, it gave me the categories but no destinations when selected then would promptly crash, i put the tt3 poi.dat in and it will now searcha and nav to without crashing. will take her out on the road tonight and if i can get to my mums and back then alls well.
was a pain cos i went to newcastle a month ago (375mile) and it just kept crashing, i had to run it in guidance mode (no map, poi) so it must be the poi then cos it didnt crash like that.
will let you know my findings then you have a definitive answer for all you out there with the same issue.
Awesome :lol:
Happy with that if it works
What version of the rom are you running by chance?
ok, it dont crash now but it's so much slower in refreshing the map, about half the speed it was.
has anyone got an unaltered tt5 pio.dat file they can upload for me to try, i'm wondering if its happened when i used my free trial of tt plus and added thier speed camera databases. i could reinstall the maps but i'm nowhere near the orginal disk at the moment as its at work and i'm 'ill'.
I have a tomtom mobile pio which worked for a while then crashes, and have somone sending me a few different TT Go pio.dat's. worth testing them all.
my roms listed below chap.
Here is POI from TT 5.10, you said in your post that you had TT's speed camera database but I thought that you had to take out a 12 month contract.
HyperFire said:
ok, it dont crash now but it's so much slower in refreshing the map, about half the speed it was.
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You need to uncheck all the POIs you don't want to see on the map, that is what is slowing it down.
i activated the tt plus trial on the website for a month and grabbed all the extras, although i use pocketgpsworld.com for my speed camera databases.
I have all the poi deactivated already.
will try this poi.dat and keep you all posted as i know others with the same issues as i'm having.
i've tried a working 5 & it crashes but mine works fine with the 3 one. you could always delete all poi.dat & see if it is faster.
its still dying, with all tt pio.dat files. pain in the bottom, someone else on here has mentioned they have fixed this issue. grr
Is your copy a proper license? I used to use a pirate copy before I deceided to use the real thing. The pirate copy crashed all the time as you explained but the real copy wotks just fine.
genuine. though i have done updates and added my own poi, just wondering is any other software is clashing.
been using tt since version 2 and have had bothe mobile versions on a nokia.
if your sd card is not a 80x speed it will crash all the time ,have you tried a transend 80x card as it has been established to work well and isn't that expensive
I'm using a kingston elite pro (50X) SD Card with tomtom 5.10 with ALL the POI's checked and ALL the pocketgps.co.uk speed camera datebase POI's checked with alerts for the speed camera's and i have never had a lockup whilst driving using tomtom.
Maybe try hard-resetting your XDAIIi and installing everything manually NOT using sprite. That's what i did and my tomtom seems to work flawlessly.
What bluetooth gps are you using?
ive tried hard reset a few time, even only with tt on it. no luck.
i'm not sure what speed my card is, but looks like this is most probably the cause then, matter of finding some cash then i think, or getting just a small 128 80x to stuff it on for when i need it.
tried it without the pio.dat file, still crashes. grrr.
Yes, bearing in mind i have a soley-devoted kingston elite pro 512mb just for the GB Plus map and the French map.
Perhaps if you get rid of all the other stuff from the card by formatting it in a card reader, try using "media recover" search around for it on google as it will wipe the card clean, this takes a while, but it will restore your card to it's original condition when you first bought it.
Then for the formatting, try reading this post i posted ages ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21920&highlight=lydiachris
Format your card this way to produce the best read/write times.
Now put all your data back onto your card, just copy then paste the files from your pc to your sd card. This will produce no fragmetation therefor your XDAIIi will not have to search around for the desired data on the card.
Give this a go and post your outcomes.
yay, i found a apprently modified ttn.cab file through file share, installed it to my xda, it downgraded me from 5.1 to 5.0 but hasnt crashed or paused since, although ive only tried it locally, it seems fine, trying to find the time to take it 50 miles+ and see if it works
gonna try out your formating trick soon chap, will keep you posted
New XDA2i - TomTom 5.10 crash/freezing....
Hi all!
I got my new XDA2i through insurance after my 1st one's screen smashed. Installed all my apps etc including the TomTom 5.1 update andddddd it freezes every so often again ! dammm!
So, I double checked everything, all ok, the only thing I can think of is that the newer ROM this handset has is the cause of the lockups again.
I've looked through the postings on this topic and see slightly different versions on the radio version, protocol version etc.
This new XDA2i (I havent changed the ROM) is
ROM - 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date - 01/27/05
Radio Version - 1.00.00
Protocol Version - 1337.39
EXTROM version - 1.11.162 WWE
Is it possible that some of these versions are known to cause a problem even with the updated 5.1? ( by the way I have the special Bakonl update )
I use a Sandisk 1GB Card (normal speed), the TomTom silver BT GPS unit.
Interestingly, my brothers 'spare' XDA2s with this setup works flawlessly, so I know my install, SD card, GPS all work fine.
Any ideas guys? how do I update say just the radio version? or protocol version? so that my version match another user's version which are working with TT5.1 ?
I was really looking forward to getting GPS all working again as I've missed it these last 2 months ! and now it's doing that annoying freezing again!
Any ideas, recommendations, things to try will be greatly appreciated!
Cheers! Dennis! West London UK!!
Hi I have an XDAIIi and I have installed the software using the corporate setup so the O2 crap hasn't installed.
My setup is as follows:
ROM version: 1.11.00
ROM Date: 01/27/05
Radio Version: 1.00.00
Protocol Version: 1337.39
ExtROM version: 1.11.162 WWE
I have the activesync setup to connect into my works Outlook Web Access server and pull off my emails. This is set to sync every 5 minutes during peak times and every 2 hours outside of peak hours via GPRS. Sometimes (at least 3 times a day) when I receive a text message or I get a missed call if the phone is in standby mode it won't turn on when I press the power on button and I have to reset the device. This is so frustrating.
Has anybody else had this problem and succesfully resolved it?
I'd really appreciate any help on this matter
Regards
Shaun
what kind of sd card are you using ?????? it must be 80x fast or you will have lockups
I'm using a 1Gb sandisk card. I don't see how this could lock up my XDAIIi if I receive a text or a missed call. Surely the SD card would only lock up the device if I was accessing it for data?
I'm happy to try a faster card and the sandisk is guaranteed to lock up if I'm listening to music or watching a movie, but would it also cause the device to lock up even if it's not being accessed for data?
Cheers
Shaun
don't question, just obey
i know it seems weird, but i fixed crashing problems to do with gprs and ending phone calls (ie nothing to do with the SD card) by swapping my sd card for a faster one.. an easy way to test is to just take out your sd card and have nothing in there (except for the filler).. see if you still get the crashes
yeah i had this problem was well, fone would randomly lock-up (not crash) but a soft reset would cure it
took my 1gb sandisk card out and it never does it
just a load of other things to try and sort out now
I have taken the card out of the phone and you are all correct... It has stopped crashing!!! Spooky.... I bow down to all of you, you truly know your stuff...Thank you very much for your help... I've ordered a 1Gb transcend 80x
Thanks everyone for your help
yup it's weird ...i read somewhere (i can't remember where now) that it's down to some figure is way too low in the registry ,i have reset mine ,and it has improved a bit more...
but you will be surprised it should work fine once you put a trancend in
I've always used a Peak 1GB 66x SD card and a Peak 512MB MMC card (about 2 years old now) and have no lockups since I disabled the storage card status stuff in Pocket Plus 3. To be honest I don't think the speed of the card makes much difference, I think it's down to the polling of the card by the 2i at the same time as doing other things.
Will this start a debate?
pug said:
I've always used a Peak 1GB 66x SD card and a Peak 512MB MMC card (about 2 years old now) and have no lockups since I disabled the storage card status stuff in Pocket Plus 3. To be honest I don't think the speed of the card makes much difference, I think it's down to the polling of the card by the 2i at the same time as doing other things.
Will this start a debate?
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mmm i think it will :lol: :wink: it would be nice to find out why it actually does lockup ..i had major probs till i upgraded my sd card and it worked so i never botherd really i was just happy it worked
Do you know what Registry Key was Changed to stop the polling? As this maybe whats been killing my Viking SD Cards?
Cheers
Hello,
I know it is a couple of months on now, but did anyone find out what that registry key was?
We have 30 of these devices here and they are all doing this - the worst is that you don't know!
If no-one knows what the registry key is does anyone know where in th UK to get the cheapest 80x card (at least 256MB)?
Thanks all
sorry mate i lost that bit of info and i wish i could remember where i got it from now it did help a lot even with the transcend card where as it never crashed at all
The best thing I found was ditching SD cards altogether and going for MMC+ cards. The general concensus these days is that it is a power supply problem, that the Alpine seems to be a bit weak in this department. As the phone side shakes hands with another cell, there is a sudden power drain from the card which causes a temporary lock up, hence the stalling of the Alpine. MMC+ cards are slightly different and don't seem to suffer this power problem.
Switching to MMC+ has solved all my problems to date anyway.
www.mouse2house.co.uk seem to sell some cheap Kingston MMC+ cards, around £30 for 1GB, and no, I'm not being paid by them, just don't believe in paying more for the same.
Outgoing Call makes my alpine lock-up
Sometimes when I make a call the "phone" lock-up but not the phone. Ive tried removing the sd card and it still lock-up a few times.
Is there any fix with this PROBLEM?
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date: 01/27/05
Radio version: 1.04.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.11.162
About 2 weeks of testing and still frustrated. I dont get TomTom 6 and Xda IIi to work fine. Everything works fine, installation, gps connection, poi an so on. The BIG problem is while i´m driving. Suddenly after for ex 3 min, 10 min, 28 min or 55 min the TomTom hangs. Then it works again after a soft reset and then it hangs and so on...
I´ve tried change ROM on the XdaIIi, tried TomTom 5 but the problem is still there.
I Use GPS Globalsat BT-338, Xda IIi ROM ver 1.11.00 WWE, SD card 1GB Kingston x50 and TomTom 6 (ver 6.030).
Any proposal? I´ve read some suggest faster SD card?
Works fine on mine, my SD card is a 4Gb 150x one. It may be another piece of software you have installed that is causing the issue. If you can back it all up I would test it on a clean install without the o2 front end ie corporate install but it may be your card.
i´ll try a faster XD.
I had troubles till I gained a disk by a Gentleman called Plasma from another place I cleared out the previous incantations and installed his works like a dream no problems even picks up my shortcut knowledge very quickly (I used to be a Transport Manager and am one of those horrible people with a map in my head for major routes) I use it mainly for the last couple of miles or the one or two places I don't know but mainly for the POI i.e. the speed camera's(I may be an old git but I like to travel reasonably fast)
3 possibilities I can think of:
1.) If this is a fairly recent install of TomTom 6 it might just not happen to like the particular SDcard you are using for the maps - I've heard some people find much faster cards give fewer/no crashes.
2.) Having too many POI files selected to display. Mine goes all unstable if I have more than about 25 different ones ticked to display on the map.
3.) sometimes the TomTom cfg gets corrupted, 'losing' my home locations and I am unable to set it...it gets tetchy & sometimes crashes out. The answer is to delete TomTom Navigator.cfg in the Navigator folder in Programs - TomTom will re-create a fresh one when you start and you go through the setups again, but hopefully without it crashing.
hope these are of some help
Joe
I had the same problem.
Changed the SD card to: "Transcend 2GB" and TomTom6 works perfectly on 2020i
Seems like Xda IIi freeze no matter how fast the SD is (with all tomtom version) if using SD and SIM card plugged in.
Change to MMC or take off SIM card then no more system hang.
Now I´ve test with SD card Extreme III. The problem i still there.
I know a few places where it hangs every time i drive past. Exactly the same position at the map. Very strange.
I deleted all pois, same **** again.
a lack of GPS signal can cause a map to "Hang" / "lock Up" and favorites for this are the Bluetooth GPS units