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Small app that turns on BT and WLAN after suspend?

OK, this ide was stolen from a guy at the norwegian forum www.windowsmobile.no: Can't somebody who knows what they're doing program a small app that can be set to turn on BT and WLAN whenever the unit is turned on? Then I'd be very happy, at least!

may be this tool can help?
http://oz.sciox.org/ozbt.html

Wow! At first glance it seems to work! I'll have to turn off the unit for a longer time and see if it still works. I'll know in the morning...it's been along night. Election night in Norway.

I think this does work but like Mastiff says I am going to leave off my SX66 for a bit.
If this does work, this needs to be added as a patch?

I am pretty sure this is working for my SX66.
I first manually turned off Wireless and Bluetooth. Then restarted my PDA, which both Wireless and Bluetooth where off when it was done booting. I then went into ozBT and changed Wireless/BT from Default On to Defaul Off.
I was then going to restart the PDA but before I could Wireless and BT popped on!
I also turned off my PDA for a bit and Bluetooth was off - then it turned it's self back on.
Nice!
Someone needs to invite this guy over here and get him on the staff!

Why would you want BT and Wifi turned on everytime you switched on your PPC? Wouldnt that kill the battery? Every time you soft reset, turn on to check email, etc. Can someone explain what this achieves?

Myself I do not want WiFi on but I do for Bluetooth, since I use a BT Headset all the time.

First of all this doesn't work very well at all for me. On my Qtek 9090 this has unforseen side effects for WiFi, so I have gone back on it. It doesn't log into my default network at once, like it does when I turn it on manually. Instead it either tries to log on to the other WiFi network I have in my house (don't ask), even though that's weaker and MAC blocked for the unit. And if it doesn't find that, it just stays on "searching". And even when searching it don't show the WiFi icon, it shows the GPRS icon all the time. So for my unit this is a dead end. If anybody else tries this and doesn't have problems, I will have to do a hard reset and see if it's some kind of third party program that creates this problem.
Second, I want them on like I always have had them on with my four last PPCs since I have a wireless network both in my house and in my car, and I control music, lights and a lot of other stuff in the house and music in the car with it. Besides when I'm driving I always use TomTom to warn me of speed cams. And I have charging in both my cars, on both my motorbikes and in my home office (I run a translating business from home). So I'm never far away from charging and never have problems with the battery, and finally I use WiFi a lot more than I use the phone part, with NetRemote controlling the house, and surfing.

where is the file
where is the program can be found.

http://oz.sciox.org/ozbt.html
But no my system it's trying to connect to the wrong network every time. If I turn on the WLAN manually I don't have that problem at all, it connects to the default. I'm starting to think that the program forces the driver to check for the default network to early, before the network card is ready, then gives up on that and start looking for other networks a few seconds later, which is when the network card really is ready to connect.

Dopod D810 randomly turning on

My bro and I both bought the above units and have upgraded to the GPS rom. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed the unit switches on by itself. We are both experiencing this problem but also have the same programs running. The button lock feature is set on.

That's right. My Trinity is alive, too ;-)
I'm using the dopod rom about one week and I noticed that today for the first time.
There's no application running in the background. It's still alive ;-)
I do not care about this problem.

Hi,
Any software you are running?
Best regards,
Gilbert

Today programs are as follows:
cLaunch
Today Agenda
Battery Pack / Program Bar
PPCProfiles
I will try and eliminate one by one to see if it is software related.
Anyone else using one of the programs and having the unit switch on by itself. This issue bothers me as I see its going to be a drain on the battery.

Activesync may be the culprit
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.

Camstech said:
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.
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Hey Camstech, could you please give me a detailed description of how to set this up?
Thanks

My phone seems to do this too, but from what I can see, it is because of bad 3G coverage and the phone has to roam to GSM and back. Only happens at work where I got bad coverage (2/4).

AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.

Looking Glass said:
AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.
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I would have to agree to a point, as I have noticed when PPCProfiles changes automatically to my car mode (bluetooth on) the pda turns on. So you are right that it's programs possibly turning it on but this never happened on my O2 mini (WM2003SE). I'm hoping a new ROM may fix this issue.

I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?

frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.

saminegm said:
Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.
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You can find the program link below. I never had any issues when using this program on my O2 mini. It still works on my dopod d810 just that I have disabled the auto switch template.
ps the chrome template is the nicest
http://www.modaco.com/Latest_Version-t205779.html

Correction to my thinking it was PPC profiles. It is actually happening when the bletooth is turned on ( hence ppc profiles switching over to car mode - bluetooth). I disabled ppc profiles and turned on bluetooth and strangely enough the dopod kept turning on.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem when they have bluetooth on?

frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Mine sometimes turns itself on when it automatically checks my email accounts, but not always. I wonder if it isn't the 3G/Edge switch that is explained earlier. My house is in a 3G fringe area. I believe it doesn't try and wake itself up when the Wifi is on. My Prophet never did this, it would only wake up for an alarm, call, or SMS.
The main issues are reduced battery life and if you have your phone in your pocket and it wakes up, buttons can be accidentally pressed before it goes back to sleep.

Diamond Battery 3G question and also GPS

Hi Everyone,
First post here so hopefully you guys can help. Been doing a lot of reading of the site over the last few hours since I got my Diamond - looks great. Am usually very literate in these things but have always tended to be an S60 guy so now breaking into the WM world properly..
Anyway, there are two things I wanna run by you which I'm sure you guys may know..
1. Battery/3G
As we all know, the battery sucks.. There's no denying that. I refuse to switch from 3G to 2G though cos that spoils the object. I have already conceded by turning HSDPA off and am now on normal 3G as it is. One of the things that can't be good for the battery is that it connects to check emails and then stays connected.. Whereas the beauty of the iPhone for example is that if you tell it to poll your imap server every 15 mins, it connects, checks and downloads and the disconnects. It connects again another 15 mins later.
I've set my Diamond to poll every 30 mins in the hope that it would then disconnect once it has downloaded the emails rather than staying connected for hours and hours at a time to the internet even though it's only checking my email server every 30 mins or so.. you follow?
So, I downloaded Advanced Customisation and have turned off the Auto Attach feature.. But what it does is stop the Diamond auto connecting the first time.. but then once it's connected, it stays connected to the internet.
You follow me?
Basically, I want a way for the phone to disconnect from the net when it has checked for messages then reconnect when it's time to check automatically again. Rather than staying connected or me having to switch to a manual check. Is that possible guys? Maybe that will help with the battery.
2. GPS/Battery
Other thing I heard was that if you go into the GPS settings and change the program port from Port 4 to None, then it saves on battery life. Only downside is that you then have to fiddle with the settings before you fire up Tom Tom or Google Maps. Is there any truth that the phone is always looking for GPS satellites even when satnav software is not switched on.
3. ALARM
Oh actually - there is a third question.
Is there a way of having the phone on silent but alarm clock on so that I can sleep knowing I will be woken up by the alarm but NO phone calls. It's a basic thing in Symbian/Blackberry/S40 but seems to be missing on my Diamond?
Thanks all - i have googled and searched through the forums looking for answers to these questions but had no luck.. Hopefully you can post some answers.
Have a good day and thanks in advance
Phil

I'm pretty sure that just because it's connected ie. the E or 3G symbol on the signal strength bar. It doesn't pull extra juice, extra power is only required to transfer data and not to 'maintain' the connection.
if your area has great 3G connectivity, then you could set the phone to 3G only instead of auto, cause that's what usually saps the power, the phone constantly trying to find the best band when it's feels that the signal strength isn't good enough.

philliplavelle said:
3. ALARM
Oh actually - there is a third question.
Is there a way of having the phone on silent but alarm clock on so that I can sleep knowing I will be woken up by the alarm but NO phone calls. It's a basic thing in Symbian/Blackberry/S40 but seems to be missing on my Diamond?
Phil
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you can just put the phone on flight mode. that way no one will bother you with phone calls. (not tried it but i think it will work)

marauderz said:
I'm pretty sure that just because it's connected ie. the E or 3G symbol on the signal strength bar. It doesn't pull extra juice, extra power is only required to transfer data and not to 'maintain' the connection.
if your area has great 3G connectivity, then you could set the phone to 3G only instead of auto, cause that's what usually saps the power, the phone constantly trying to find the best band when it's feels that the signal strength isn't good enough.
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Hi
BTW, to set to 3G only, is it UMTS(800+2100) or UMTS(1700) in the UK?
Cheers

Sorry i'm from MAlaysia so I wouldn't know your settings. But in anycase you can leave that at AUTO. Just force it to UMTS instead of GSM or AUTO

firedup said:
Hi
BTW, to set to 3G only, is it UMTS(800+2100) or UMTS(1700) in the UK?
Cheers
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UMTS in the UK is 2100.
So 900+2100 i suppose

govnah said:
you can just put the phone on flight mode. that way no one will bother you with phone calls. (not tried it but i think it will work)
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This definitely works. I do it every night before going to sleep

philliplavelle said:
Hi Everyone,
First post here so hopefully you guys can help. Been doing a lot of reading of the site over the last few hours since I got my Diamond - looks great. Am usually very literate in these things but have always tended to be an S60 guy so now breaking into the WM world properly..
Anyway, there are two things I wanna run by you which I'm sure you guys may know..
1. Battery/3G
As we all know, the battery sucks.. There's no denying that. I refuse to switch from 3G to 2G though cos that spoils the object. I have already conceded by turning HSDPA off and am now on normal 3G as it is. One of the things that can't be good for the battery is that it connects to check emails and then stays connected.. Whereas the beauty of the iPhone for example is that if you tell it to poll your imap server every 15 mins, it connects, checks and downloads and the disconnects. It connects again another 15 mins later.
I've set my Diamond to poll every 30 mins in the hope that it would then disconnect once it has downloaded the emails rather than staying connected for hours and hours at a time to the internet even though it's only checking my email server every 30 mins or so.. you follow?
So, I downloaded Advanced Customisation and have turned off the Auto Attach feature.. But what it does is stop the Diamond auto connecting the first time.. but then once it's connected, it stays connected to the internet.
You follow me?
Basically, I want a way for the phone to disconnect from the net when it has checked for messages then reconnect when it's time to check automatically again. Rather than staying connected or me having to switch to a manual check. Is that possible guys? Maybe that will help with the battery.
2. GPS/Battery
Other thing I heard was that if you go into the GPS settings and change the program port from Port 4 to None, then it saves on battery life. Only downside is that you then have to fiddle with the settings before you fire up Tom Tom or Google Maps. Is there any truth that the phone is always looking for GPS satellites even when satnav software is not switched on.
3. ALARM
Oh actually - there is a third question.
Is there a way of having the phone on silent but alarm clock on so that I can sleep knowing I will be woken up by the alarm but NO phone calls. It's a basic thing in Symbian/Blackberry/S40 but seems to be missing on my Diamond?
Thanks all - i have googled and searched through the forums looking for answers to these questions but had no luck.. Hopefully you can post some answers.
Have a good day and thanks in advance
Phil
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I think you need to set the auto disconnect drop down in Advanced Config. I've set it to 10 secs and it works for me.

govnah said:
you can just put the phone on flight mode. that way no one will bother you with phone calls. (not tried it but i think it will work)
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There is an easier way... Just turn down the call volume to zero, leave system volume up. This will keep the alarm ringing, but calls won't bother you.
SMS messages however will also still ring. So if you are afraid of being woken up by those, just turn them off in the notifications setting.
Oh yeah, and don't forget to turn up the volume of calls again after you wake up I missed some calls because of that, hehe.

how to poweroff GPS

Hi there ..
is the gps always on ?
how to power it off ?
if not how does it get power on, on first connect ?
thanks

when the port gets initalised it starts the hardware

cookie1977uk said:
when the port gets initalised it starts the hardware
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I thought that the GPS was always "sort of" on unless the phone was in complete flight mode.

timn2087 said:
I thought that the GPS was always "sort of" on unless the phone was in complete flight mode.
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If that were true you would think it would be a fairly serious design flaw.. Battery life, etc.. And since it takes so long to get a sat lock anyway it would be kind of pointless..!!
Everything I've read so far says it is activated only when invoked by an application.

It's possible to always get an approximate fix on your location, but that isn't GPS. That's possible via triangulation from the cell towers. Google Maps does this unless you tell it to use the GPS.
The GPS is only ever turned on when it is used by an application.

salada2k said:
If that were true you would think it would be a fairly serious design flaw.. Battery life, etc.. And since it takes so long to get a sat lock anyway it would be kind of pointless..!!
Everything I've read so far says it is activated only when invoked by an application.
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It's possible to always get an approximate fix on your location, but that isn't GPS. That's possible via triangulation from the cell towers. Google Maps does this unless you tell it to use the GPS.
The GPS is only ever turned on when it is used by an application.
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Thanks for clarifying that. You're both right, it would be silly to have the GPS constantly activated.

thank you ...

With Airflight Mode ON,it's still possible to use GPS...
Incredible...what a flaw!!!
HastaSSSS

how to set GPS on when flight mode on?
Hi,
Does anyone help me to set GPS on when flight mode on? If I set flight mode on, then tomtom cannot get GPS signal. Traveling with flight mode on will save lots of power.
Cheers

s1rl4ncel0t said:
With Airflight Mode ON,it's still possible to use GPS...
Incredible...what a flaw!!!
HastaSSSS
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isn't that irrelevant since the gps doesn't SEND anything?

really if you think about it, the gps hw on th phone only recieves data.
i usually carry with me a gps datalogger that does pretty funny lines when i connect it to google earth after arrriving home from my flights

s1rl4ncel0t said:
With Airflight Mode ON,it's still possible to use GPS...
Incredible...what a flaw!!!
HastaSSSS
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As others have said - Absolutely not a flaw at all. Indeed a nice feature which was in the TyTnII as well. GPS by its very nature is a reciever only, so nothing is transmitted to interfere with AC avionics.
In answer to the oringinal thread starter .. as far as I can tell the GPS shuts down when no software is polling it. Not sure what the timeout is. Would guess a minute or so.

s1rl4ncel0t said:
With Airflight Mode ON,it's still possible to use GPS...
Incredible...what a flaw!!!
HastaSSSS
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Really? TomTom 7 says 'GPS disabled because device is in flight mode.....'
Weird.
It shouldnt be disabled anyway as it's just a passive receiver - no transmit therefore no issue with airplanes.

thats my guess also (activated on request)
but i would rather prefer an option that allow-me to turn it off no matter what..
Thank you all for the answers

It shouldnt be disabled anyway as it's just a passive receiver - no transmit therefore no issue with airplanes.
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It's not quite that straightforward as a GPS receiver, like any electrical piece of equipment, has the potential to transmit RF radiation. Of course, whether the level and form of radiated power is sufficient to cause any difficulties with avionics is a different question entirely.
Like all rules of what is, and isn't, allowed onboard aircraft the final decision is down to the airline (which in turn base their decisions on official rules and regulations).
There is a list of airlines which do/don't allow GPS usage onboard here (it also contains an discussion on the issue). Note the caveat that allowed GPS usage is for cruising, not landing/takeoff where the number of critical avionic systems in use (and relied on) is increased.
Mathew

salada2k said:
Really? TomTom 7 says 'GPS disabled because device is in flight mode.....'
Weird.
It shouldnt be disabled anyway as it's just a passive receiver - no transmit therefore no issue with airplanes.
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"Flight Mode - all connections Disabled" is what Tom Tom actually says. It does not say that the GPS is disabled, just the connection.
You can even see this in this screen shot I took a few hours ago. Note the co-ordinates and information displayed. Now if you were to take a look at s34.88499e150.24473 in Google Earth to see where those co ordinates are, you will see that I could not have driven my car there. But I can assure you I was there. Also note the correct UTC time which will only display with the GPS running. There is no way TomTom could have known I was in that location unless it was using the GPS. So TomTom is sort of disabling all connections between itself and the phones GPS. But the GPS is still running.
Further - If you have your Diamond in flight mode - Just fire up the GPSTest application and you will see it has no problem getting a fix. Although it takes the whole screen so I cannot take a screen showing showing flight mode and the fix concurrently.

MJNewton said:
It's not quite that straightforward as a GPS receiver, like any electrical piece of equipment, has the potential to transmit RF radiation. Of course, whether the level and form of radiated power is sufficient to cause any difficulties with avionics is a different question entirely.
Like all rules of what is, and isn't, allowed onboard aircraft the final decision is down to the airline (which in turn base their decisions on official rules and regulations).
There is a list of airlines which do/don't allow GPS usage onboard here (it also contains an discussion on the issue). Note the caveat that allowed GPS usage is for cruising, not landing/takeoff where the number of critical avionic systems in use (and relied on) is increased.
Mathew
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Yeah I am aware of all of that. But I can tell you the final decision can have a lot more to do with where in the aircraft you happen to be sitting

logger said:
Yeah I am aware of all of that. But I can tell you the final decision can have a lot more to do with where in the aircraft you happen to be sitting
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I wouldn't know; I'm always way towards the back of the aircraft... usually wedged between two fat people.
Mathew

logger said:
"Flight Mode - all connections Disabled" is what Tom Tom actually says. It does not say that the GPS is disabled, just the connection.
You can even see this in this screen shot I took a few hours ago. Note the co-ordinates and information displayed. Now if you were to take a look at s34.88499e150.24473 in Google Earth to see where those co ordinates are, you will see that I could not have driven my car there. But I can assure you I was there. Also note the correct UTC time which will only display with the GPS running. There is no way TomTom could have known I was in that location unless it was using the GPS. So TomTom is sort of disabling all connections between itself and the phones GPS. But the GPS is still running.
Further - If you have your Diamond in flight mode - Just fire up the GPSTest application and you will see it has no problem getting a fix. Although it takes the whole screen so I cannot take a screen showing showing flight mode and the fix concurrently.
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Fair call - I had never actually got a fix in that situation so I thought the GPS was disabled. Thanks for pointing that out.

The two fat people would sure as hell attenuate the signal. (But perhaps protect the avionics). Fotunately for me I get to sit at the other end.

Is GPS active in airplane mode?

As the title reads, can the GPS be used with the phone turned off?
I am hoping to use it on a flight so I can track my route (for pure curiosity) but if it doesn't work....

doubt it
butterdori said:
As the title reads, can the GPS be used with the phone turned off?
I am hoping to use it on a flight so I can track my route (for pure curiosity) but if it doesn't work....
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i know the GPS does not work when phone in airplane mode. perhaps if someone wrote an application that would disable the radio on the phone but keep gps alive. not sure if anyone would do that as i doubt the demand for such product/service/application is fairly minimal at the moment as personally i cant see the point of wanting to track my route (unless i was on ocenic flight 815!) or unless i owned my own private plane, but if i did then i would probably rely on more trustworthy equipment than the gps module on my diamond!

butterdori said:
As the title reads, can the GPS be used with the phone turned off?
I am hoping to use it on a flight so I can track my route (for pure curiosity) but if it doesn't work....
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Yes, the GPS component of your phone can work while your phone is off.
Here is the Trick
If you haven't already, create a pin code before enabling your phone.
Path...Settings>Phone>Pin
Once you have created a pin, exist and go to CommManger. Here shut down your phone. Once that is done, turn it back on again. This time your phone will require a pin to turn your phone on. Instead of putting in your pin, hit cancel. Now you are free to use any navigational system without the concern that your phone is on.
Try it!

my phone tells me that without entering the pin i can only dial emergency nrs like 911
so is the radio really off?? because that is wat you want

tried it once on the airplane - still waiting on the runway though - but i got no signal...

Turning the cell radio off should leave GPS on, http://www.modaco.com/content/windows-mobile-news/272846/vario-iii-gps-470-mph/

The point is, because I'm an airplane/flightsim geek, i'm curious about what route the flight takes..
Anyway... conflicting opinions..
And I do think that the radio is still on if you are able to call emergency numbers(i.e. before PIN)
I was thinking, because the gps is integrated into the chipset and not an independent one like SiRFstar, once the phone module is of, so is the gps

The airplane mode does not interfere with workings of the GPS BUT some aircrafts are equipped with a screen that stops the GPS signal from penetrating the plane body. My personal findings are- new Boeings 7 series are equipped with the screen, Airbus A32x is fine.

The new 7 series? All Boeings are 7x7... if you meant the 777
As far as I know, GPS is used from time to time in the cockpit

butterdori said:
The point is, because I'm an airplane/flightsim geek, i'm curious about what route the flight takes..
Anyway... conflicting opinions..
And I do think that the radio is still on if you are able to call emergency numbers(i.e. before PIN)
I was thinking, because the gps is integrated into the chipset and not an independent one like SiRFstar, once the phone module is of, so is the gps
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I used it once with my P3600 and that worked, the problem is that you can use it as long your above ground as soon you will fly over the sea there are no maps, at least not for TomTom.
And another problem is the speed the programm which I used (TomTom ) worked well but the update interval is that big that the nav engine got confused.
Willem

What if you use your phone without a SIM card? Never tried it, and it's too late to go outside and try it now lol.

I can confirm that GPS does work in airplane mode.. just checked it