serious problems with sd/mmc cards - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Hi
Since i got my new xda2i i have problems using sd/mmc cards in this ppc. Sometimes it seems that the card controller in the ppc locks up for example while hearin mp3s wich are stored on the card. I have two 1gb sd cards a "ExtreMEmory" and a "TakeMS" furthermore i tried a 64MB "Sandisk" mmc. All cards work fine in my old yakumo delta. Even a reset (soft) does not help.
After 1 or 2 hours the cards are suddenly reappears in the file explorer. Meanwhile i can use the pda normal except for the sd-card. :wink:
Does anybody got a similar behavior of its xda2i. I tried also the english update but no luck (now i using german orginal angain).
Thanks in advance . . .
Groovie

here you go and download it
i have the same problem with my sd kingstone 1gb and later format with this utility my alpine never freeze (too at 620 mhz xcpu scalar!!!)
i have tested it with movie for 30 days
you must hace a usb card reader
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqdt/us/download/20306.html

Hi
Thankyou i'll try it. But i have formated the sd card once direct on the pda. Do i need a hp cardreader?
cu
Groovie

no no a generic usb card reader i have a trust for example ;my impression is that this utility format best the sd card but i don't know why...only first i formatted with alpine and xp pro utility and space free is 966 mb plus minus...after i formatted with hp utility and space free is 948 ... and the frze of alpine playing movie and music are missed

HI,
I tried that tool, but no luck.
I have send the device back to o2. This can only be a defect.
Bye

mmm i dont knot ...howewer when it go back please give me a feedback about o2's response thanks
bye

hm.... does it means that the MMC / SD-Card over 512 MB is prone to error in XDA IIi ?
that's so annoying :-(
now I'm in doubt to buy Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB SD-Card. Should I take Kingston or Transcend ?
any response would be very helpful.

Hi,
I have got another device back from O2. This one works fine for about three weeks now . . .
cu

I've used Transcend 80x 1 GB SD-Card SLC till now and it works smoothly no problem at all.

Related

List of working SD cards for Alpine

Hi,
Could everyone post their experiences of using different SD cards, please include any problems experienced and anythingelse that might be useful for a buyer, e.g. what you use the card for, as certain cards work fine but cause problems with some applications e.g. Tom Tom 5 and the fone dialer. Also please include the make, model, price, the where you bought the card and what you use the card for.
The reason for this topic is that, I read in the forums people have had problems with different cards and applications. All this information is spread across the forum. It would be really handy for a buyer (like me) to have a thread like this...
Many Thanks!
At the moment I use an "ADTEC" 256mb card, it works fine with TT3 and does not seem to crash my xda2i, But it is a couple of years old and i am about to get a 512mb card, So it will be interesting for me to see how this thread develops.
Transcend 80x 512MB.
Works perfectly with everything including TomTom.
yeah transend 80x ,but i do think any 80x will work ,but 1 person found the transend 80x worked so i think we all bought them as we were just glad we finally found a working sd card ,well i know i was
but it would be interesting to see what other can be used succesfully
I recently bought an Ebuyer own brand 1GB SD card for £32
When it arrived it was actually a Kingston branded card!
I'm not the only person this has happened to...check out the reviews on Ebuyer.
Anyway, I've only had it for about a week but I've had no problems with it so far.
Not really used it exstensively but I've currently got about 300MB worth of music on it.
Good price, Good product I think.
Cheers
Wayne
I have a Corsair 1GB 40x card. I haven't used it much, and I know virtually nothing about these things... But it works. ~£40 from dabs.com.
i dont have money to buy a new SD Card, so I take my brother camera SD Card. mine one just 256mb and the brand is NCP.
work fine for me.....lagging for 2 seconds when incoming call...after that its ok.....but i dont recommended to others!
Have A-Data 150x SD 2Gb card. Works fine. No delays or such, even on moves, even on incoming calls.
Transcend 80x 1GB........... No problem whatsoever... even when running TomTom Navigator 5
Take back what I previously said. I can't access the card on my PDA now - it simply doesn't show up
Not sure if it's the PDA or the card because I've only just realised and I don't have a card reader at work...will have to try when I get home and update then.
Cheers
Wayne
I'm sending the card back under warranty.
Also, it wasn't a Kingston...it was Viking branded card (not sure where I got the Kingston from )
Cheers
Wayne
what about pretec 133x 1gb? anyone tried it b4? Do we just judge the speed? if it is above 80x it would work fine?
thanks everyone for youre input. ive ordered a ridata 1GB SD card. its a 66x speed card. i read somewhere cant remember where now that tomtom needs a 10mbs card which is 66x speed which my main reason for buying the card will let you know how it goes when i receive the card.
Negative experience
Hi,
I bought a 1GB 66x BRAVO SD Card at Ebay.
Since then, my Alpine crashes over and over again.
I Soft reset it 5-10 times a day!
I guess it's the SD Card's fault as the device never crashes without the card.
Hi!
I have my XDA IIi for about 2 weeks now. So far I didn't have any problems with my SD-Cards.
I have a 256MB SD Card extrememory (no fancy speed...) that works quite well. I used it several days without problems and now have placed my rom backup on it.
The other SD Card I now use mainly for my XDA IIi is a 2GB Card from Transcent (150x). Until now I didn't had any strange problems with it (used it for about one and a half week).
I've finally found an SD card that works with Tomtom5 without crashing - it the Transcend 80x SD Card.
I've tried loads of others some better than others, but all crashed within minutes of starting TT5 except the Transcend.
Some other SD Cards were fine running Tomtom 3, but would not run Tomtom5 as all.
I've had the following cards that cause TT5 to crash:-
Kingston Ultimate 133x 512Mb
Kingston Elite 80x 512Mb
Scandisk 512Mb
The only other card that I've had that didn't cause TT5 to crash was :-
Compaq 128Mb (speed unknown as it came with an iPaq) but not big enough.
alinoorrahman said:
thanks everyone for youre input. ive ordered a ridata 1GB SD card. its a 66x speed card. i read somewhere cant remember where now that tomtom needs a 10mbs card which is 66x speed which my main reason for buying the card will let you know how it goes when i receive the card.
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Sorry alinoorahman - I fear I got to disappoint you :? I got a ridata card as well (256 MB, 66x). I also encounter the problem that it`s only available randomly.
Btw: 1GB extrememory won`t work neither :evil: big ****e
4gb sd card
wil a 4gb sd card work with an xda 11i or an exec??????
RE: SD Card with Alpine
Hi All,
I use a Zynet 1Gb 68x and my TomTom only has a problem with incoming calls. freezing to solve it, I turn my BT GPS on and off and this fixes it.
My friend is using a Qtek 2020i with Tomtom and a Transcend 1Gb 80x,
he has the same problem as me.
I don't know if the new 1.04 Radio version would help or not, when I get the energy I will upgrade my XDA IIi to this and test.
My opinion is that the Alpine has an internal power problem, as it only occurs with Bluetooth on, causing a power drain when a call is received thus your SD card briefly loses power. Its only a theory, the weight is towards some sort of design fault with the Alpine, otherwise one of the Carries etc would have sourced an answer by now, as the Alpine has been out long enough now. We cannot blame SD cards which work perfectly well with the majority of other electrical devices on the market.
hello..i got a 1 gb sandisk sd card which works fine in my qtek 2020i and i also use tom tom 5 with this and a 1gb pny sd card as well.
i never new there was all these problems with sd cards :shock:, saying that i always bought sandisk and they have not let me down before with this ppc phone or my past ppc phone like the spv m1000.

TomTom 5.21 lock up

Sorry if this has been answered before, but I cannot find any solutions to this on any of the forums.
TT5 running ok but 9 times out of 10 it will 'lock-up' during the journey. If I take out the SD card and reinsert it, sometimes it continues to work but after about 4 or 5 goes it locks up completely and needs a hard reset.
Someone suggested that there was still a problem with moving between cells where this would loose connection to the SD card.
Any suggestions on how to fix other than buy a new phone?
TT lockups ...
First thing that comes to mind is
make sure you are using a High speed SD card!
I now use the highly recommended Transcend 80X card and my unit is now performing brilliantly!
I'm running TT 5.1 - not sure of the functionality to upgrade it to 5.21...
HTH
Cheers! Dennis! West London UK!!
The Extreme III is quoted at 20MB per second data transfer speeds
try the transcend 80x it will fix your problem
i had the same problem i found pugs cooked rom fixed the probelm.
I already using PUGS modified 1.11.162 ROM
andy-c1 said:
try the transcend 80x it will fix your problem
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ok but have you tried the transcend 80x ,as so far it has fixed 100% of pda's that have been changed to this card (thats 8 people that i know of and some were using 1 gig cards)
read this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39123
use definitly a transcend 80x and your problems are away.
i used a transcend 45x before and had the same issues as you.
it´s not the speed, which is the problum but the need of power of the sd
the tc 80x has a single layer design and so saves power!
greets
p.s.: i use a xda 2i ger + tc 80x 1gb + ttn 5.21
Extreme III not working !?!?!?
Hi all,
Great site - been reading for a while, just signed up.
I've had my Alpine for a few months but haven't done anything with it yet as I'm waiting until I have the money for an SD card.
I was thinking of getting an Extreme III myself as it appears to be one of the best out there (although I was hoping they'd release a 2 or 4gb version). It's rated at 133x and is also SLC (single layer cell)...
So I'm a bit concerned that it's not working for you - let us know if you find the cause of the problem checks!
**duplicate post**
Same problem with a SanDisk miniSD 1GB.
Solved reformatting all ( both low and high level ) using :
FAT32 and cluster size of 2K
Hope this Helps.
Maurizio
What program did you use to format the SD card?
Some good & bad news... :x
Reformated the SD card with SoftWinter's StorageTools to FAT32, 2Kb cluster size, Backup FAT:No (I guess at Low level?)
This has solved 90% of lockups and TT5 has only locked 2 or 3 times since.
I should be getting a Transcend 1Gb 80X SD at the end of the week so I will give it a go.... finger's cross!
I use pocket Mechanic tools for SD maintenance.
Before get new SD card try to install XPUScalar for overclock your PDA ( sd transfer rate increased )
tried a Transcend 1Gb 80x, exactly same problem - must be a problem with the Xda IIi, will try to send it back under warranty to be checked/fixed
Just trying to list the “possible” causes/fixes of the Xda2i lock up when using TT5.21
I to have this problem and as yet is still unresolved.
It can run for maybe 15 mins, locks up showing full set of satellites. Have to soft reset and start TT again.
Using Globalsat BT-338. Tried on “other bluetooth device”. Now set to NMEA, (as recommend elsewhere) tried 38400 baud rate, tried 4800, Left battery out for over an hour (cold start) still the same.
Storage card, a Transcend 80x
Upgraded radio 1.04.00. Ext Rom 1.11.162 (to Pugs version, Thank you DAZ999)
Reloaded To TT5.21
Reloaded Globalsat. (Question, the GPS info CD is version 5.1, and comes up with “this is made for an earlier version of software”?)
Hard reset numerous times.
Last resort, reblow ROM, reload all software and reinstall Globalsat.
Any further suggestions greatly appreciated.
Dave
My PDA uses 2 x Kingston 512Mb SDcards: one has the 'serious' stuff on it (Tomtom, Dictionaries, Visitor Guides etc) and the other games/films.
I've never experienced any problems with either TomTom or other programs, excepting the aminations in 'Riven' sometimes are a bit slow. Video plays happily full-screen using divx and MVP Player.
I recently installed Pocket Mechanic and ran the tests on the SD cards:
... they both scored a speed rating of 2.7X!
so am sure it's not a speed issue, as TT works perfectly smoothly.
my $.0.2
Joe
Me again,
I've received a new XDA IIi from O2 and guess what, the same intermittent problems with TT5 locking up.
For anyone who as a working copy of TT5 (5.21) help us with how they installed it… ie. what ROM used, if they just installed 5.21 or install 5.0 and installed update to 5.1 and update to 5.21..
TomTom support told me that there are known issues with XDA IIi and transferring data from the SD card, so why is the phone on the list of supported devices…
Hi there,
If it can be of any help, here's how I've installed TomTom :
- ROM version : 1.11.162/1.04.00 cooked by pug
- SD Card : Transcend 80x 1GB
- Install TT 5.0 with Bluetooth Support, Voice, but without maps. I don't use main memory for most of my programs, but the "Storage" directory instead (Disk On Chip)
- Install TT 5.21 upgrade. In a few cases I've had to reinstall just the Voice
- Copy the maps to the storage card.
- Use the Bluetooth Manager to pair with the GPS unit.
- Launch TT, configure "Other Bluetooth GPS", and pick COM 6.
The GPS is a Holux GPSLim236, set to 38400 baud NMEA.
I haven't had any lockups so far.
The only annoyance is that TT is very touchy about the order in which I start my BT devices : if I switch on the BT headset before launching TT, it won't find the GPS. The other way around seems to work better, but I've had to re-configure the GPS inside TT a few times to get it to figure out the GPS was really there.
Good luck !
Checks, did you solve it?
With format in fat32 2kb or installin how Mr Spoke said?

Anyone has problems with 2 gig SD card in their 8125?

Everytime i insert my card it asks me if i want to format it to make it readable? - even though i formatted it in my computer. Also i cant write anything to it when my 8125 recognizes it in a slot. The cars is SanDisk so it should be a good quality.
I'm using a 2GB SanDisk card with no trouble at all. I _didn't_ format it on my PC but rather used it straight out of the box.
Do you still have the same message if you let the 8125 format the card?
i tried doing that and it says that the phone cannot recognize the card.... the weird thing is that the card goes in crooked and the fit isnt perfect i have to push it in hard.....
Quite a few people reporting a problem like this - seems to be fixed with sktools or storage tools (google them demos allow you to format - install on device) and format card on device to fat16.
meschle said:
Quite a few people reporting a problem like this - seems to be fixed with sktools or storage tools (google them demos allow you to format - install on device) and format card on device to fat16.
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I have the same problem before, i tried to format it to fat16 and the 2gb minisd was recognized as 1gb instead of 2, tried every solution from getting compatible version of a card reader to re-format using fdisk via DOS., Called the manufacturer and they we're happy to replace it. They advised that it should be re-formatted as fat only and not fat16 via DOS using the card reader.
good to know as i just bought a 2gigger.
The problem is that you formatted it on your PC. USe SKtools to format it on your device and you should be all set. I think the demo version of SKtools allows you to do this stuff.
i use my 2 GIG since i bought the phone almost 4 months ago without any hassle.
Just used the card out of the box without formatting it.
This issue is reported several times and is caused by using a not compatible cardreader on the PC to format the card.
A lot of the (even usb 2.0!!) cardreaders is not capable of reading over 512MB memory cards. If you use a 1Gb or 2GB card on such a reader it will probably say the card is not formatted. WHEN you do format the card using that reader, you wil make it unusable.
:arrow: Make sure you format the card via a compatible cardreader to avoid this.
:arrow: If you get a 'card not formatted' message, try to read from / write to it in your device first (before attempting to format)
Just got my 2GB card....MDA won't read it.
Camera won't read it.
PC can read it. It was Fat32, I reformatted it to Fat...still a no go in the phone or camera, but works on the PC....what gives?
Just got my 2GB card....MDA won't read it.
Camera won't read it.
PC can read it. It was Fat32, I reformatted it to Fat...still a no go in the phone or camera, but works on the PC....what gives?
I have a SanDisk 2Gig card. It worked fine right out of the package. Haven't had any problems with any of the ROMs I've run on my 8125.
-Scott
my 2GB card works fine, except for the fact that it's stuck in there.. i need to tak it apart and fix the spring loaded latch somewhere in there..
I got a 2GB from Amazon: OEM 2GB MINISD Mini Secure Digital (SD) Card but it did not work on my Cing 8125.
TopRam
I have been using a 2GB miniSD made by TopRam. Works in the 8125 and with my USB card reader no problem since day one. 8125 recognizes the entire 2 gigs (well minus just a few bits...about 99% of the card). Got it off eBay while I was waiting for the phone in the mail. Never needed formatting or anything..worked straight from the package. I was a little worried at first that it wasn't one of the "well known" brands of cards, but there have been no problems whatsoever.
I'm using the Transcend 2Gb 80x MiniSD. Works like a charm.
Keep in mind that SLC flash chips (mainly made by Samsung and a.o. used by Transcend and Mobymemory) have longer lifetime, are faster and consume less power than MLC flash chips. Disadvantage is that SLC is more expensive. Bought my 2GB for approx 62 euros.

1G SD memory for XDA2i

Hi,
Does XDA2i support 1G SD card? I tried but it doesn't show up in the explorer.... Can someone help? Many thanks!!
bennykmh said:
Hi,
Does XDA2i support 1G SD card? I tried but it doesn't show up in the explorer.... Can someone help? Many thanks!!
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1 GB Dane-elec Xs work fine on my Qtek 2020i(XDA2i)
you may format card before use
I have you tried any other card in your XDA IIi.
I have a DANE-ELEC 1 GB SD card and a INOV8 512 MB cards
and both work well.
Sorry I can't be of more help
Muzza
Kingston 2 GB (30651-001.A00LF p799861x01)work as well,
maybe i should have purchase a 4 GB :wink:
Scandisk 1GB SD card working fine!
transcend 2gb 150x absolutely fine work =))
maybe you have bad card? or maybe format it via cardreader can help..
My Kingston 2GB works great on the device, might be a case of a bad card for you, tried it on any other devices?
Worked
I use Kingston 1Gb SD card... 50x and it works fine... maybe your battery is dying
I think theres still a 4gb SD card at work which I'll give a go tomorrow if I get a chance.
I work at CeX in Brighton, England, and we get a lot of different types of memory cards in. So far I'm just using a standard SanDisk 512mb card, but will eventually get a 2 or 4gb (the 4gb we have is £120 >.<)
Kingston SD Card 1GB works fine on my XDA IIi. What brand do you use anyway?
XDA IIi definately supports up to 4gb (150x) cards.
I just got a "Topram' 4gb 150X...despite formatting both via card reader and my device it will not read...
Does it show the card size in the Memory cp? Or can you just not transfer files to and from it?
neither...as soon as I insert it into the 2i I am asked to format it to make the card ledgible...so I agree...but it still does not show up at all. Neither in memory size menu or file explorer.
I have formatted it via card reader on the compeuer too...It accepts files via card redaer so the card itself is ok.
But every single time I insert it into the PDA it asks me to format it again and it never shows up.
bit off topic but as anyone else had a problem with SD/MMC cards working for a while (sometimes as little as 6 months other times over a year) then totaly stopping ie show as not being there in any card reader, only to come back to life after about 12 months stuck in a draw. I have had this with 2 cards so far and got 1GB card in the draw at the moment which stopped working just as I put some important files onto it
SD Cards
I have a 4GB Transcend, 2GB SanDisk and a 512MB Unbranded and they all work perfectly fine in my xdaIIi, maybe your card reader is a bit iffy?
EDIT: By card reader I mean the bit that you insert the card into the xdaIIi
It may simply be certain makes of cards that work, and certain that dont. All you can do is hope the retailers let you try before you buy
Tom Swinnen said:
Scandisk 1GB SD card working fine!
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i also have a SanDisk Ultra II 1GB in mine
XDA 2i - SDIO size - does anyone tried 4G?
Hi,
I want to buy 4G SD card to my XDA 2i, but I would appreciate if someone can tell me if he succeeded to work with 4G card.
10x
Dror
light said:
I just got a "Topram' 4gb 150X...despite formatting both via card reader and my device it will not read...
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erm... u made sure u formated them as FAT not FAT32? i had no end of probs with my 2020 when i did that, and the 1gb unbranded card i have in my 2020i is FAT and works fine, as most hand helds and camera (i use it in my konica/minolta SLR digital, it hates FAT32 file systems too) format them as that and jobs a good one!

Has anyone tried a Sandisk 16G SDHC?

I've searched the forum without much luck so hopefully I won't be flamed..
I am looking at getting either an 8G or 18G Sandisk microSDHC with adapter.. but wondered if anyone else had taken the plunge yet?
Thanks
erosco
*bump*
Isn't there anyone out there brave (nee dumb) enough to try out one of these?
Hello i have 8G Sandisk microSDHC Class 6, trinity dont work corectly, when i soft reset access ton the microSDHC is ok, but when long time arrive access to microSDHC is slow. i return to my "old" miniSD 2go an now access is ok.
microSDHC 8G work fine on touch HD i think my rom drivers is not ok for microSDHC.
erosco said:
I've searched the forum without much luck so hopefully I won't be flamed..
I am looking at getting either an 8G or 18G Sandisk microSDHC with adapter.. but wondered if anyone else had taken the plunge yet?
Thanks
erosco
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Hello!
Tried with a sandisk 16GB SDHC micro. I formatted but the Trinity formatted only for 3 GB :-((.I formatted in a notebook for 16 GB, but the HTC saw the card as a 3GB one :-(
Now I should try another mini adapter, because my one is a little old (used for a 2GB microSD)
Any news on this? I just purchased a p3600 and 16 gb would make it the perfect Phone for me.
Someone else had an 8GB SDHC and in the the trin it showed 0gb but he was able to write/read the full 8gb. Maybe you could try to fill your card to the limit too.
I have a SanDisk 16GB SDHC which didnt work with the original ROM (also only saw approx 3 GB). But updating the ROM fixed it and it now works perfectly. So I guess its a driver thing only.
Wohoooo!
16gb sandisk is on it´s way.
which class is the Card (2,4,6)?
i want to know too. im guessing its a class 2.
I couldn´t find any other than class 2 too. So I guess it is class 2 but I decided to go for 8gb first and maybe upgade to 16gb in March/April when I expect the prices to drop because 32gb will be available in stores.
any link for update?
(shall I update the whole ROM or it's just a littla patch?)
working with WM5 only... (don't wanna upgrade for WM6 :-( )
HTC 6300 and SDHC 16G
Hi, My experience (2 days) is the following:
- PDA recognises the SDHC, with 15,5 GB (iso 16G but this is normal)
- I copied from an old backup lots of programs, etc using a PC and all files are seen by PDA and programs work fine...
- BUT I tried to move files and to install in SDHC card directly from PDA and it does not work.
I am now tying to find a driver or something, but not success for the time being.
(I am using a class 6, HTC P6300 with original WM5)
Hi again,
I heve rechecked and the only failing action is the SW installation in SDHC card (both from PC and from cab file).
Any idea about why installation is failing?
Thanks
Hi people,
I was brave enough to buy last week a Sandisk 16 Gb microSDHC class 2 to use on my HTC P3600. I'm using an old miniSD adapter and my cooked ROM is [PTG] WM6.5.3 OS 5.2.23554 (build 23554.5.5.0) by Antix. I have not installed any other custom sdhc drivers. It is using the original ones that come in the ROM.
I never formatted the card. Not on Trinity or PC. So it has the factory format. I just tested with H2testw to confirm that it was indeed a 16Gb card (I bought from ebay-30€) and also the write speed is 5.8Mb/s.
First impression was that the card worked flawlessly with 15185Mb recognized. I took some photos, installed programs directly to the card, all good.
But then I noticed that 1 in 5 times I reboot the phone, I see some missing icons and it says no storage card inserted. The icons are stored on the card that is why I miss them. To solve this I need to reboot the phone again.
Other than that it seems fine until now. I will update this topic if anything different happens.
Still I would like to hear if anyone has a flawless experience with Sandisk 16Gb microSDHC with some other ROM / drivers.

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