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TomTom are looking into the TT5 and GPRS Freeze!

Below I have copied all the emails sent and recieved regarding this problem with my XDA2i and TT5 Freezing when I try to use GPRS to Downlaod Traffic. See responses and be assured Tomtom seem to be looking into it!
Cheers
Lee
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Dear Tomtom,
I have a major problem with my XDA2i and the TT5 Traffic updates. When ever I try to use my GPRS connection on the move to download your Traffic Updates that I have subscribed to, TomTom 5 Freezes. The PDA still works when TT5 freezes, I know this because I can use one of the hardware buttons to exit TT5 and open the Calendar. If I do this TT5 remains running in the background and cannot be stopped until I reset the XDA2i. At all times the GPS Bluelight is lit up as if it is connected.
I have paid for a 1 year subscription for the Traffic Updates and kindly ask you to either fix the problem or refund my traffic subscription money.
The Traffic Updates cannot be downloaded therefore it is very unfair that I have to pay for a service I can not use as intended.
I am pleased to see that you now support the XDA2i and look forward to hearing from you very soon.
http://www.tomtom.com/products/compatibility.php?ID=109&Language=1
By the way, I have installed the latest TT5 5.10 update and the new O2 ROM v1.11.162 update for the XDA2i, it still doesn't work properly. My SD Card is a Corsair 1GB SD1GBA0506H3S37WN and I have tried it using a 512mb SD card. I have even tried the Corporte install on the XDA2i and that doesn't work either.
Tomtom 5 is a very worthy upgrade over the TT3 version and I thankyou for providing a product that is Far better than ever before, I just wish you could sort this Freeze problem out.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks
Lee
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Just thought i'd tell you that when the XDA2i TT5 Freezes if I removed the SD card it imiediatley starts working again! Then what I do is reinsert the SD card, the only probelm is, the Map is on the SD card and by removing it makes it lose the map on screen and cannot be recoverd unless I exit TT5 and Restart again.
It looks like it may be a SD card issue, the problem is I have tried many different SD cards, 512mb, 1gb 60x speed and now ive got a new SD card 1gb Sandisk Ultra III 133x speed and that still freezes.
Any ideas to which will work?
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Dear Mr Donnellan,
We are looking into this issue. Could you please write us the ROM version you have installed on your XDA2i?
We thank you in advance for your cooperation.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
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Hi,
In response to your answer to my question please find the Detaisl you have requested below:-
ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/27/05
Radio Version 1.00.00
Protocol Version: 1337.39
ExtROM Version: 1.11.162 WWE
I updated to this rom to try and fix the issue as the original ROM from O2 didn't work as far as TT5 is concerned. I could run the TT5 program but was slightly more unstable than it is now.
Thanks
Lee

The same happens with mine too (Or used to) i havnt had chance to check if it still freezes as often after i updated to the new ROM version but the one that includes the newer Radio ROM version.
I found that if you take out the sd card then re-insert it quickly, it continues on fine, no Map loss.
The freeze problem is almost certainly to do with the Radio locking up the SD somehow, which should be up to O2 (or HTC) to sort out.
I find my phone freezes sometimes when i recieve a call, but removing the SD card sorts the problem.
As i said ... i've not ad the chance to test TomTom since i updated but, i havnt had ANY lockups or freezes with calls since.

I feel like crying
At last someone else with the same problem. I can add a little though: -
I have a panasonic 128MB card which works with traffic perfectly, I have 2 x 1GB SD cards, 1 PNY and 1 Viking both of which fail to update the traffic information - exactly the same, remove the card and everything seems to clear up. What I can't understand is that if I use my Panasonic card it works perfectly even if just before the reboot it would not work with one of the 1GB cards no reinstallation of TOMTOM or changing of any of the settings. Not sure if it is size or quality related ? The cards all work as "simple satnav cards" perfectly.
The other point is that if I am not connected to the BT reciever (I plan a route and then run a demo as an example) all of the cards work perfectly.
They only fail when the GPS information is availible.
Kind Regards
Dave Cook

I downloaded the 5.10 upgrade in the hope it would solve my xdaii freezing up every time i got a phone call, but it is still the same . In tt5 when the upgrade is installed is the Version (5.00 - 5.10) supposed to change ?? as mine stay's the same (v5.00) . i expect you're all as fustrated as i am at not being able to use both the phone and tt.
Steve
ROM VER:1.72
ROM DATE: 03/15/04
RADIO VER:1.17.00
PROTOCOL VER 1337.28
EXT ROM VER: 1.72.181

RE: TT5 to TT5.i version display.
I have TTN5.1 on my XDAIIi and it displays version 5.1. At a guess I would say your upgrade did not install correctly. After upgrade it displays on your PDA to re-install certain TTN apps, did you say yes to this, if so I can't see why your upgrade did not work. :twisted:

It will be interesting to see if TomTom do find a solution, but based on my experiences I don't think it is TomTom that is the problem.
I have a SanDisk 512MB SD card that runs just fine with Navigator 5.1 and the phone switched on. I also have a SanDisk 2GB SD card which exhibits the classic TomTom freeze.
The key fact is that Media Player also freezes with the 2GB card when the phone is on and it seems to happen when the phone switches to a new transmitter cell. The 2GB card works fine with Media Player when I switch to flight mode.
The fact that Media Player exhibits freezing in the same way as TomTom due to the radio having some unfortunate interaction with larger SD cards leads me to believe the fault is more fundamental to the device/operating system rather than a fault within TomTom.
I think therefore it needs a fix from Microsoft/HTC but I won't hold my breath as they already probably consider XDAIIi's running WM2003SE as a legacy platform, now that the Universal/WM2005 combination is imminent.
Anyone else had similar problems with Media Player freezing or any other application accessing a large SD card with the phone active?
Device: XDAIIi
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
Radio version: 1.03.00
ExtROM version: 1.11.162 WWE

Yeah same for me mate, i posted a a reply with similar findings a couple of posts up ^
I think i'll be going for an upgrade when my contract runs out (6 months )
Radio ROM version 1.03 is better it seems to make the freezes less regular.

I agree, I think the same as you guys. It probably is O2's responsibility and will need a fix on their part to resolve it. However using TomTom Support who state they now support the XDA2i, Tomtom have more clout when it comes to persuading O2 to sort it out rather than little old me and will hopefully get a fix in the near future. The response I recieved has been far better than any previous responses from Tomtom and does encourage me knowing they are at least researching the problem which is now shown in the My Questions of Tomtom website. (Unanswered has now changed to Researching)
Fingers crossed hopefully Tomtom are talking to O2 to work it out.
Watch this space.
Cheers
Lee

Referring to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26986&highlight=
and this
http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=58132
it might be the similar problem of formatting your SDcard in FAT 16 instead of FAT 32
Apparently these programs use the SD card to store information and they can only read FAT 16
Give it a try.

d.zee, thanks for the idea but no joy I'm afraid.
My SD Card was already formatted with FAT16. So I tried a re-formatting to FAT32 but Media Player froze again. I haven't tried TomTom but doubt it would perform any better.

Tomtom have replied, see below :-
Cheers
Lee
Dear Tomtom, I have a major problem with my XDA2i and the TT5 Traffic updates...
Discussion Thread
Customer 31/08/2005 08.10 AM
Dear Tomtom,
When enabling flight mode, both the Bluetooth and Phone are turned off. Turning on the flight mode will stop me from connecting my GPS receiver via Bluetooth and stop me from making a GPRS data connection via the Phone to download Traffic Updates.
Just to clarify the situation here, Tomtom 5 works brilliantly with my current configuration apart from the Tomtom Traffic Updates. If I have my Phone switched on or off Tomtom 5 will navigate me to where ever I need to go without many glitches, however I have subscribed to your Tomtom Traffic and find I can not use Traffic at all because when I try to download Traffic Updates via the GPRS connection (using the Phone which your asking me to turn off in flight mode)Tomtom will freeze.
I can remove and reinsert the SD card to get Tomtom to start working again but the map is no longer available as Tomtom thinks the SD card and maps are no longer present. The only other way to get Tomtom to work again is to reset my device. The PDA at all times remains useable just Tomtom that freezes.
In answer to your question, turning flightmode on stops me from using Tomtom 5 altogether, so that isn't the answer to the problem. If I was to turn the phone off but keep flightmode off allowing Bluetooth to continue to work, that still doesn't fix the GPRS connection as the phone is off so a GPRS connection cannot be made.
As you know I have paid a lot of money for the Tomtom Traffic subscription and cannot use it, therefore can I remind you that if you can't fix this problem, I would be grateful if you can refund my money for the Traffic subscription.
(I would rather you fix the problem!, a lot of other people are having exactly the same problem and is driving down the resale value of the XDA2i)
Can I take this opertunity to thankyou for your interest in this issue and thankyou for looking into the problem, I look forward to hearing from you again.
Flightmode off = Phone On, Bluetooth On (Yes GPRS and Yes GPS)
Flightmode on = Phone off, Bluetooth off (No GPRS, No GPS)
I can do this via a sim password
Flightmode off = Phone off, Bluetooth on (No GPRS, Yes GPS)
Lee
Response 29/08/2005 04.24 PM
Dear Mr Donnellan,
Could you please try to enable flight mode and write us if that works?
We are trying to find out which is the problem.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team

Response 29/08/2005 04.24 PM
Dear Mr Donnellan,
Could you please try to enable flight mode and write us if that works?
We are trying to find out which is the problem.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
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OMG i cant believe the reply ! I can safely say .. they never read the email properly lol
The problem lies with the OS/Radio ROM not TomTom as the freezing happens with other applications too not just TomTom, so its a job for the Mobile operators and/or device makers.
If they upgraded us to WM2005 then i think all the problems would disapear, sign my petition link in my signture.

Danny,
I couldn't believe it either, how can they fix the problem if they don't even know what the problem is!! lol
Anyway, at least they are still looking into it, in hope that they can speak to O2 to get it sorted or at least give me my Traffic money back.
I have tried to sign your petition and I managed to get it to load up the form but when I submitted it it fails.
Let me know if it works or not at your end and i'll try again when it does.
Good idea by the way keep it up and lets hope alot of people sign it.
All the best
Lee

Hi mate, your name is entered in the petition, the last name on the list atm
It would be nice if TomTom contacted O2 to complain about their incompatibilitys, although judging by the response you got from them, i think that extracting blood from a stone may be easier !

Things are moving Fast! Tomtom have replied already, here it is:-
Response 01/09/2005 12.24 PM
Dear Mr Donnellan,
We thank you for your feedback. We were thinking that you were experiencing freezing issues also when navigating.
We have run a test here with an XDA2i and ROM version 1.10 and it worked fine when updating traffic information. We will try with version 1.11.
Which GPS receiver are you using?
If you do not use the GPS and you only try to update traffic, is it working?
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
Dear Tomtom, I have a major problem with my XDA2i and the TT5 Traffic updates...
Discussion Thread
Customer 01/09/2005 05.20 PM
Dear Tomtom,
Thankyou again for looking into this problem. You are correct in saying the Freeze problem is only when I try to download Traffic Updates. Using Tomtom on a day to day basis works fine using my Tomtom GPS Bluetooth Receiver.
The freeze problem only occurs when downloading Traffic Updates or even Weather. However; I have managed to get it to work now and then! 97% on the time it freezes.
I have tried to download traffic with the following setups:-
1) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle.
2) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix.
3) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Not Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix.
4) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix whilst driving.
5) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle and demonstration mode running.
All cause it to freeze! sometimes it will work but 97% time doesn't.
When it Freezes this is what happens, The Symbol for Downloading the Updates shows an arrow and flickers whilst the downloading is being carried out, when it freezes the arrow stops moving, I think it stops at the point it tries to use the data. It seems to download the data but can't finalize the data to be used.
However please note the following setups:-
1) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Connected to Tomtom with a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle and wireless WiFi connected to the internet.
2) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Not Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix with a stationary vehicle and wireless WiFi connected to the internet.
3) GPS Bluetooth Receiver Not Connected to Tomtom without a satelite fix docked to activesync on my PC connected to the internet.
All work every time! The problem here is I don't drive with a PC or Wireless connection to Wifi so Traffic Updates cannot be updated on route when I need them.
The GPS Reciever I have is:-
Tomtom Bluetooth GPS Receiver (Mark 1, a little silver rectangle shaped box)
Hope that answers your question and helps you resolve this problem.
Please let me know which SD card you have tested this out on, you say yours works, I am interested in your setup. Why would yours work yet many many other XDA2i 's don't? Maybe we could compare XDA2i 's. Compare the following:-
SD card
ROM Version with Radio version etc.
Where you installed your Tomtom Program, all on the SD card or only maps on the SD card?
Corporate Install or Personal install?
Kind Regards
Lee

All evidence is now pointing towards it being an issue with certain types of SD card.
Has your device ever stuck on say the start menu, you pop out the SD card and all is fine......

No but it has been slugish with the SD card in and when taken out it becomes ok. That was with the slower SD cards I have used in the past, that problem has been fixed with a faster SD card.
Cheers
Lee

bluebotle said:
No but it has been slugish with the SD card in and when taken out it becomes ok. That was with the slower SD cards I have used in the past, that problem has been fixed with a faster SD card.
Cheers
Lee
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Perhaps not for you, but for others it has.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=26506

Well my Transcend card arrived yesterday, but I had no real opportunity to test it until today.
So I sit here now, over 300 miles and 10 hours later and not a single freeze. Phone calls, GPRS file transfers, downloading mail, SMSs, MMSs and Traffic Information, both on TomTom and Traffic-I, the XDA IIi performed flawlessly, something that it has NEVER done since I got it, and i do not just mean with TomTom running.
So the answer is a Transcend 80x SD card, I don't think it is as much to do with the speed though, most likely power consumption/voltage issues as Pocket Mechanic shows the speed of the card being as quick as one of the ones that it replaced.

MaskedMarauder said:
Well my Transcend card arrived yesterday, but I had no real opportunity to test it until today.
So I sit here now, over 300 miles and 10 hours later and not a single freeze. Phone calls, GPRS file transfers, downloading mail, SMSs, MMSs and Traffic Information, both on TomTom and Traffic-I, the XDA IIi performed flawlessly, something that it has NEVER done since I got it, and i do not just mean with TomTom running.
So the answer is a Transcend 80x SD card, I don't think it is as much to do with the speed though, most likely power consumption/voltage issues as Pocket Mechanic shows the speed of the card being as quick as one of the ones that it replaced.
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and i can say the same, been using it a little more than MaskedMarauder and have not had a single lockup due to traffic or phone being on
in fact i have just found out if you press the hang up button it minimizes tt and when you press tt again it starts instantly

TOMTOM 5.1 but no GPS Signal

Hi all
I followed the guide on how to install TomTom 5.1 using the 4 cab files. I can now say TomTom works and opens on my MDA III running WM2005.
The problem I am having is since the upgrade to WM2005 I can not get TomTom to pick up a GPS signal from the mouse. I have the official TomTom wired mouse and not bluetooth. I have tried selecting all the avalible com ports but TomTom will not find a GPS signal.
Applogies if this has already been covered but I have tried searching but cant find anything.
Surely I cant be the only one using a wired version so any help on this would be great.
Thanks in advance
Mark

Not too sure about WM5 but on WM2003SE (as I have) have you tried unckecking the "receive incomign Beams" from the Start/Settings/Connections/Beam Screen..?
A Search on the Forums would have picked this answer up - As it did when I originally had the problem with WM2003SE
Cheers!

Thank-you
Yeh i know user error!!
I even had a friend who had this problem on the SPV2000
All woring fine now
Thanks again

Another broken GPS.

Hey guys, hope you can help.
Successfully updated my V1615 to WM6.1 on Friday.
Before I did this, I had TomTom installed which used to get a lock on to the satellites in less than 30 seconds.
I used the device with TomTom on Saturday and after an initial delay of locking on (which I assumed normal as it was a fresh install) it worked.
However trying to use it today and it just will not pick up a signal.
The ROM I used was the Vodafone one linked to from the Wiki list. (3.08.161.0) (Radio 1.64.08.21).
I have also tried Changing the Radio ROM to 1.65.17.10 but no difference.
It's set to Other NMEA device, 4800 baud and COM4 like it always was. I have run a QuickGPS download.
Strange thing is, when I go into the GPS config in TomTom I used have all the satellites listed in gray which would then turn blue when locked on but now they aren't listed at all.
Please help! I do have a bluetooth gps receiver from when I had my Hermes so I can get but part of the reason to get the Kaiser is so I have an all in one unit. I'm just in the middle of a hard reset to try again but does anyone have any thoughts on the matter? It's gone from being a brilliant GPS unit to a dodo!
Thanks!

Test if Google Maps finds some satelittes, just to check if there is a problem with TomTom
http://www.google.co.uk/mobile/gmm/stp-js.html
If that doesn't work, I'd reinstall the old ROM and see if the functionality returns and if it doesn't assume you have somehow broken the GPS.

funkygibbon said:
Hey guys, hope you can help.
Successfully updated my V1615 to WM6.1 on Friday.
Before I did this, I had TomTom installed which used to get a lock on to the satellites in less than 30 seconds.
I used the device with TomTom on Saturday and after an initial delay of locking on (which I assumed normal as it was a fresh install) it worked.
However trying to use it today and it just will not pick up a signal.
The ROM I used was the Vodafone one linked to from the Wiki list. (3.08.161.0) (Radio 1.64.08.21).
I have also tried Changing the Radio ROM to 1.65.17.10 but no difference.
It's set to Other NMEA device, 4800 baud and COM4 like it always was. I have run a QuickGPS download.
Strange thing is, when I go into the GPS config in TomTom I used have all the satellites listed in gray which would then turn blue when locked on but now they aren't listed at all.
Please help! I do have a bluetooth gps receiver from when I had my Hermes so I can get but part of the reason to get the Kaiser is so I have an all in one unit. I'm just in the middle of a hard reset to try again but does anyone have any thoughts on the matter? It's gone from being a brilliant GPS unit to a dodo!
Thanks!
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wow you picked the wrong radio to change too. You should have read about it before changing to 1.65.17.10. You should do some research on what you did to yourself.

redbandana said:
wow you picked the wrong radio to change too. You should have read about it before changing to 1.65.17.10. You should do some research on what you did to yourself.
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Well he already said 1.64 didn't work either. Maybe you should read what's written.

-IK- said:
Well he already said 1.64 didn't work either. Maybe you should read what's written.
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Maybe you should read the thread that redbandana is talking about... maybe the bit about it being locked to your phone and you can't downgrade it... not really a good choice 'cos he's now stuck with that radio and also maybe stuck with WM6.1 (which also sucks - WM6.0 faster and more stable imho).

I had to do a hard reset and reinstall apps. TomTom no longer works. LiveSearch does RunGPS does. Neither TomTom or GPSTest can find the GPS. Any suggestions? When you choose other NMEA device in TomTom options are Serial on USB and COM7: that's it.
Thanks for any suggestions.

Well, it works now! I used to be able to get a lock on indoors, but now I can't. However if I go outside I cado get a lock on in TomTom. It seems like the GPS is now less sensitive, but hey, it works aand that's the main thing.
I'll do a search later but does anyone have a link to the thread regarding this dodgy radio. I did try and downgrade it but as you say, it didn't. I have some more coming in this week anyway so I can give this to someone who doesn't need/want GPS and I'll have the shiny new one. Ah the joys of working in IT!
Oh, and thanks to IK for the Google Maps link, brilliant app! I'd seen it on the PC but not pocket PC.

FWIW, my Tomtom uses the "Internal GPS" setting, not "other NMEA device"
Robert

funkygibbon said:
Well, it works now! I used to be able to get a lock on indoors, but now I can't. However if I go outside I cado get a lock on in TomTom. It seems like the GPS is now less sensitive, but hey, it works aand that's the main thing.
I'll do a search later but does anyone have a link to the thread regarding this dodgy radio. I did try and downgrade it but as you say, it didn't. I have some more coming in this week anyway so I can give this to someone who doesn't need/want GPS and I'll have the shiny new one. Ah the joys of working in IT!
Oh, and thanks to IK for the Google Maps link, brilliant app! I'd seen it on the PC but not pocket PC.
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This is the link for the 'dodgy radio'. It looks like it is also an AT&T only radio.

Thanks ach2. Did a search and have spent all morning readin it!
I'm now having issues with the actual phone operation, intermitant no sound or buzzing.
I think I'm going to take a chance and return it to Vodafone. They do a next day swap under our corporate contract.
If there is any comeback I'll just plead ignorance!

Satrted to have the buzzing earpiece and broken camera issue with this radio, so it's gone back to Vodafone as faulty! Replacement is currently still on stock Vodafone WM6.0 ROM. To be honest I think I'll stick with 6.0, as 6.1 didn't really offer anything over it.
Roll on 7.0!!

funkygibbon said:
Satrted to have the buzzing earpiece and broken camera issue with this radio, so it's gone back to Vodafone as faulty! Replacement is currently still on stock Vodafone WM6.0 ROM. To be honest I think I'll stick with 6.0, as 6.1 didn't really offer anything over it.
Roll on 7.0!!
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If you're sticking to WM6.0 (i do too) try Q-mobile 1.2 with radio 1.27.12.17 or 1.27.12.32 - they both work well in the UK.

funkygibbon said:
To be honest I think I'll stick with 6.0, as 6.1 didn't really offer anything over it.
Roll on 7.0!!
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My friend, you need this (Vodafone WM 6.1 pre release) and use it with this Niki 1.58.11.07 Radio.
Been running this for a few days and basically I've changed my opinion on my V1615 from wanting to sell to now enjoying using it.
Highlights include 30 - 55 second GPS fix in TomTom, much much better speaker phone and better call quality.
Try these out and I'm sure you'll agree.

Thanks guys, maybe I'll try them over the weekend.
Actually, that Vodafone 6.1 ROM is the one I tried and to be honest I didn't see much difference between that and the stock 6.0 one.
As long as I'm outside I get a lock on in TomTom in about 15 seconds which is good enough for me. On my old one that I bricked I was sure I used to get a signal inside as well.
I'm just looking at the Wiki for the Q-mobile one.
Thanks again for the help, suggestions and info. This is what makes the internet great! Complete strangers helping each other out.

funkygibbon said:
Thanks guys, maybe I'll try them over the weekend.
Actually, that Vodafone 6.1 ROM is the one I tried and to be honest I didn't see much difference between that and the stock 6.0 one.
As long as I'm outside I get a lock on in TomTom in about 15 seconds which is good enough for me. On my old one that I bricked I was sure I used to get a signal inside as well.
I'm just looking at the Wiki for the Q-mobile one.
Thanks again for the help, suggestions and info. This is what makes the internet great! Complete strangers helping each other out.
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Do you not experience the key lock bug in WM 6? Was one of the main reasons why I upgraded to 6.1.

-IK- said:
Do you not experience the key lock bug in WM 6? Was one of the main reasons why I upgraded to 6.1.
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What's that? Is that the one where you press end call to end a call and sometimes it locks your touch screen? If so yes, but not very often.

Yeah something to do with when you set your device with a password and it goes into sleep mode during a call and then you wake it up and the start menu stops working.

MDA GPS not avalible?

hello all!
i really hate to post a thread on something thats probably already been solved with an easy answer but after 2 hours searching/head scratching and various tools/program downloads i cannot for the life of me get my kaiser's built in gps to work.
on the phone:
T-mobile (uk) MDA Vario 3
R: 1.27.12.32
(edit: i now know this to be an older german/russian version, any advice on a newer version appreciated)
G: 22.45.88.07
D: 1.56.00.00
ive tried setting to com4 with various baud rates (weirdly it hung when i tried it with 4800 and had to soft-reset so didnt work!) ive installed vaious programs (GPStest/GPS info/ GPS Gate etc etc) with all programs including tom tom 7 saying that theres no GPS device!
im pulling my hair out!
im guessing i'll need to update the firmware but hopefully not!
im on my knees for help!
(btw, thanks for reading this!)

quasi_mojo said:
hello all!
i really hate to post a thread on something thats probably already been solved with an easy answer but after 2 hours searching/head scratching and various tools/program downloads i cannot for the life of me get my kaiser's built in gps to work.
on the phone:
T-mobile (uk) MDA Vario 3
R: 1.27.12.32
G: 22.45.88.07
D: 1.56.00.00
ive tried setting to com4 with various baud rates (weirdly it hung when i tried it with 4800 and had to soft-reset so didnt work!) ive installed vaious programs (GPStest/GPS info/ GPS Gate etc etc) with all programs including tom tom 7 saying that theres no GPS device!
im pulling my hair out!
im guessing i'll need to update the firmware but hopefully not!
im on my knees for help!
(btw, thanks for reading this!)
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The best way how to start gps is:
start quickgps and download the data, then if u have installed gps test, start it and wait for it to find the satelites. Dont change the options. Try to be outside and not in house or building.

no
the GPS is not being found, it is either disabled by the rom/radio or is Fubar!
simply downloading location data isnt going to get it to work!
unplug your computer, walk off into the distance, put it on the floor and tell it where it is.
does it turn on and boot to windows?
me thinks not.

quasi_mojo said:
no
the GPS is not being found, it is either disabled by the rom/radio or is Fubar!
simply downloading location data isnt going to get it to work!
unplug your computer, walk off into the distance, put it on the floor and tell it where it is.
does it turn on and boot to windows?
me thinks not.
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I dont understand what do u mean. I think the mda cant have the gps disabled, I have htc kaiser and the steps that I wrote always works for me.

perhaps you are running different firmware/roms ???
having fiddled with gps gate some more, an amberish/red led on the right side has started to flash, but still no programs can find the gps! i thought tomtom7 had it when it paused on com4 but then it stayed like that for 15 minites!
Grrrrr
and sorry mikulec for the harsh response, this is really getting on my nipples now!

quasi_mojo said:
perhaps you are running different firmware/roms ???
having fiddled with gps gate some more, an amberish/red led on the right side has started to flash, but still no programs can find the gps! i thought tomtom7 had it when it paused on com4 but then it stayed like that for 15 minites!
Grrrrr
and sorry mikulec for the harsh response, this is really getting on my nipples now!
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yes I have a different rom.
Another option - try to disable the assisted gps, for that u need to install schaps advanced config - that is a very helpful application.
There can be also one possibility that your gps is faulty.

i will try that and post back
cheers for your help so far!

quasi_mojo said:
i will try that and post back
cheers for your help so far!
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U are welcome and I wish u luck.

ok, i disabled assisted gps
now all my gps programs are reporting
'could not open com7 it may be in use'
but nothing else happens!

quasi_mojo said:
ok, i disabled assisted gps
now all my gps programs are reporting
'could not open com7 it may be in use'
but nothing else happens!
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Go to settings/system/external gps and tell me what settings(in the 3tabs-programs,hardware,access) u have set there.

Have you seen this Configuring Tomtom 6 thread linked to from the Wiki yet? If you've tried all of that and still it doesn't work, if it was me I'd hard reset and make Tomtom Navigator the only program I next installed then I'd test it again without making any configuration changes to it (at least the version I use, I don't know if other versions require any fiddling about to get them to work but TTN 6.032, Google Maps and Microsoft Live Search have all been just a case of once it's installed do a soft reset (not even sure this essential but I do it anyway) and then when I start them up, they work fine). Be very patient and give it ages out in the open to find satellites the first time after a fresh install/hard reset.

No GPS after official update
Hi,
I've got very similar problem : i've upgraded my Kaiser with a official rom/radio from Orange FR (wm 6.1, rom 3.31.73.0 FRE, radio 1.65.16.25).
Since this upgrade, my Kaiser cannot find the inboard GPS. I tried using Google maps, ViaMichelin, OrangeNavigation, and many GPS tools... none of them was able to find the GPS !
That sucks.
I called Orange 2 days ago, and i'm waiting for a response. I'll post there if any news.
Mathieu

yes please mathieu, would be good to hear what they suggest!

Rom Advice needed please

Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it... I have never flashed a new rom to it since I flashed the most updated at the time AT&T stock rom that was out the day I got it... It is still running on WM 6.0 and is great for the most part... Only real modification was I did the reset trick to advoid the bloatware... After trying MANY programs, some I liked & kept... others I removed... I have finally run into a snag where I am willing to flash and start over to fix the issue (my tomtom traffic won't update anymore, and after much trouble shooting, TomTom and myself think I need to "Reset the Tilt to factory settings" or flash it to a new rom... I was hoping to get some advice from you guys to which rom should suite me best... Here are some details..
The phone is unlocked, and I use Einstein Wireless for service... so I do not need AT&T or Tmobile settings on there, and I prefer no hidden proxies or anything... I will manually enter my carriers internet and mms settings..
I use a lot of WiFi as my providors internet service is slower than I would like
I use it as a GPS (with TomTom) almost daily...
I installed the HTC Home Plugin and love it with the weather updates.. would like to have that incorperated with whatever rom
The radio version on stock rom works great for me.. so something when paired to do simmilar settings on that ?
I use the S2P, S2V2, and S2V .... So I can install those or if any rom has them in it...
I have a good sized micro SD (8gb at the moment) so I tend to install jsut about everything onto the SD card.. maybe a rom where that is the defautl location or something ?
I use MS Voice Command daily...
I play games on it regularly.. love works, ka-blom, pac man, emulators, and others...
I use wireless BT2.0 stereo headphones for MP3's and such
I stream music and video from my home computer using orb
I have used IE Mobile, Skyfire, and other browsers.. I jsut want one that works well...
I love an iContact (or type) contact program
As you probalyl guessed, I like it to be as finger friendly in general as possible...
I have used a few programs so I can use the phone as a webcam when connected via USB to my computer, woudl be great if it has that built in as well
MMS/SMS managing software would be great.. I usually keep recent txt's for a while after receiving them... something that say only keep them til you have a certain amount or after a certian amount of time passes would be great....
Of course, I would also like the rom to be very stable as well if that isn;t too much to ask..
I am open to trying to some programs/features that I have not used before... and I don't expect any rom to do everything I have listed above... The main thing will be to get one that I can set up the internet easy enough without having to worry about hidden settigns for AT&T or other such carrier... If you have been using a rom that you really liked that you think would work for me, let me know... Thank you in advance for reading this and sending me you suggestions....

Teej53214 said:
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it...
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset

+1 on the real issue being Tom Tom traffic, as you seem pretty happy with use and your exisiting configuration. I'd try to find a WiFi hotspot (where Tom Tom can also see satellites) and see if Traffic will update via WiFi. Could be Einstein is blocking Tom Tom traffic over GPRS.

still new to the kaiser/tilt/tytn II, etc(less than a week) so not in a position to really give any real advice, but what helped me in my decision is reading through PureSkillz reviews of the roms and seaching with google outside of xda to see what people are using and that helped me with my decision, T-mobile sux in about every way, so if it is good on T-mobile it'll probably be good on anything else. What I had a hard time on is choosing the right radio for my device but luckily the rom i chose allowed me to use whatever radio i wanted and I am happy with my setup and don't plan to change unless something radical happens in the scene. I am running Tomtom 7 on my rom and it works perfect, but i dont have internet via my provider cause they charge way too much so i use wifi. the one thing i don't like about this rom is lack of landscape support but hey, cant complain if i'm not smart enough to cook my own stuff.
see my choice in my sig below. Aloha

Thanks... It isnl;t an einstein blocking issue.. I already tried the WiFi... The problem started right after I installed igo GPS program to compair the 2... I have since uninstalled igo, but tomtom still wont; connect to traffic.. I talked ot them at tomtom.. they were very frienmdly with troubleshooting.. went htough a million steps.. even gave me an additional free year of traffic as well for the problem, even though it isn;t their fault...

Thank you... I read that... and thought I woudl advoid those "argument" because I wasn;t trying to ask "What is the best rom"... I was trying to ask what rom would work the easiest for me in my unique situation ? That is why I listed how I use to and what software I use... But thanks for the input... I considered just doing the hard reset.... I just thought if now I am wiping my phone and starting over, which rom would give me added advantages...
And on the TomTom not working with 6.1..... My son bought a phone like mine after he saw me using it so much.. when he got his (After me) we grabbed the newest offical rom form HTC's site (he actually uses AT&T prepay, so the AT&T software is ok for him).. It was WM 6.1 and his TomTom software works fine.... So don;t let that stop you from using 6.1
I have downloaded the Athine OS WM 6.5 Final as well as the Hyper Dragan III from Christmas day, 08 as many people reccomened... I have to decide between them now... You have any experiance with either?
Flying Kiwi said:
So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
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