I'm currently running my Note on a stock XLA4 and AbyssNote kernel and I'm considering flashing RocketROM in the hopes of improving performance and battery...
What features do I lose, if any, when I switch to a custom ROM?
I am most concerned with the following:
1. My access to Android market and being able to download the same apps as if I were on stock ROM (because I don't know how Market checks devices. )
2. Access to Samsung Apps (I would normally check all new apps offered there.)
3. The apps that originally come with the Note. (I use S Planner and S Memo a lot!)
4. Others I may not be aware of. (?)
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE, GUYS! :O
I just finished backing up mostly everything in my phone but I'm putting off wiping and flashing before I'm sure of what comes next.
It really depends on the ROM you choose. You should be able to use all the functions with most of them, but some ROMs remove Samsung stuff, some don't, some remove most and leave others (like s-memo), and some remove stuff but let you choose to install it back (like CheckROM).
Just read the ROM description post thoroughly - it should list all the stuff that was added or removed. Unless it specifically says that samsung apps/widgets were removed, or that it is AOSP, all the functions should be available.
P.S. don't forget to make a full backup in CWM Recovery before wiping/flashing in case you don't like the result or something doesn't work, so you can go back to your stock ROM.
edit: as for market, it should work with all ROMs. There are some slight problems in some ROMs, which usually means that a custom ROM will have the previous version of market (which works fine) and, to update to new market, you have to install any app from the market and then apply a fix which updates the version to the new market. Method of applying the fix can differ, but it will probably either be a one-click-fix, or you will have to reboot into recovery and choose "flash zip from (internal) sd card" and install it like you installed the ROM.
I upgraded THROUGH FlashTool Global LT15i_4.1.B.0.431_Generic World.ftf without problems, the problem arose when I wanted to update with a backup I had done, and I could, to loop, after making several inquiries, rom now only supports me 327 m., and yaff that I have several backups before this update are higher than 340 m ..
I made a downgrade to version LT15i_4.0.2.A.0.62_Generic Global World.ftf, but it could not get the old backups.
if one uses the titanium backup or similar rom can watch how much memory is full, not free.
And if anyone knows who is going and knows how to fix it, would all help.
A greeting mohoram.
mohoram said:
I upgraded THROUGH FlashTool Global LT15i_4.1.B.0.431_Generic World.ftf without problems, the problem arose when I wanted to update with a backup I had done, and I could, to loop, after making several inquiries, rom now only supports me 327 m., and yaff that I have several backups before this update are higher than 340 m ..
I made a downgrade to version LT15i_4.0.2.A.0.62_Generic Global World.ftf, but it could not get the old backups.
if one uses the titanium backup or similar rom can watch how much memory is full, not free.
And if anyone knows who is going and knows how to fix it, would all help.
A greeting mohoram.
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Hi,
I plan to root a HTC Desire C only for sim unlocking it. So far I am pleased with the original firmware (ICS 4.0) - after disabling some apps the phone runs fast and smooth.
The question is: does rooting modify the original OS in such a way that instabilities may occur?
Thanks.
dr.pythagora said:
Hi,
I plan to root a HTC Desire C only for sim unlocking it. So far I am pleased with the original firmware (ICS 4.0) - after disabling some apps the phone runs fast and smooth.
The question is: does rooting modify the original OS in such a way that instabilities may occur?
Thanks.
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Rooting itself doesn't modify anything besides installing an app called Superuser.
You deleting/disabling apps that were not meant to be disabled does.
dr.pythagora said:
Hi,
I plan to root a HTC Desire C only for sim unlocking it. So far I am pleased with the original firmware (ICS 4.0) - after disabling some apps the phone runs fast and smooth.
The question is: does rooting modify the original OS in such a way that instabilities may occur?
Thanks.
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Please, read this for first before doing anything: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2323518
(Thanks to @aashay960 )
smoza said:
Please, read this for first before doing anything: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2323518
(Thanks to @aashay960 )
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Thank you for the related link. Helpful.
As I like, for the moment, to stick to the original firmware (to me, it is the most stable among all avalable roms for HTC Desire C), I still have two more questions:
- will the rooting stop the handset from receiving official updates?
- assume I root the handset and install cwm recovery and backup the current rom.
if ever I like to restore this backup, I will need to flash a kernel boot.img.
can I extract the kernel related to my current firmware so I can flash it after I restore?
Thanks.
dr.pythagora said:
Thank you for the related link. Helpful.
As I like, for the moment, to stick to the original firmware (to me, it is the most stable among all avalable roms for HTC Desire C), I still have two more questions:
- will the rooting stop the handset from receiving official updates?
- assume I root the handset and install cwm recovery and backup the current rom.
if ever I like to restore this backup, I will need to flash a kernel boot.img.
can I extract the kernel related to my current firmware so I can flash it after I restore?
Thanks.
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- As far as I know, you can receive updates but you cannot apply them. It will show in the notifications "Software Update, Click to download" when you download it, it will reboot to recovery and stop there. Again, I'm not 100% sure about this but this happened to me once.
- If you flash a custom kernel like Prometheus Kernel, then you will have to flash the stock boot.img if you wanna go back to stock completely. But if you never changed your kernel from stock, then you don't need to do anything. I have provided the link to stock kernel and stock recovery as well, in the Index thread. (Link in my signature)
PS - As far as Custom ROMs go, you should try the Sense Roms. All of them are based on the stock ROM so all of them are completely stable. You can always put the 'Stock theme' on these roms to make them look like the Stock ROM and you will end up with a ROM that looks exactly like Stock but performs much better and has increased functionality
Hope this was helpful. I'll be glad to answer any further questions.
It will not definitely modify your system it will add a folder to your system to access the system... and also it adds app called Superuser or SuperSU ....
Features of Rooting:
Android rooting is the process of allowing users of smartphones, tablets, and other devices running the Android mobile operating system to attain privileged control (known as "root access") within Android's subsystem.
Rooting is often performed with the goal of overcoming limitations that carriers and hardware manufacturers put on some devices, resulting in the ability to alter or replace system applications and settings, run specialized apps that require administrator-level permissions, or perform other operations that are otherwise inaccessible to a normal Android user. On Android, rooting can also facilitate the complete removal and replacement of the device's operating system, usually with a more recent release of its current operating system. Most of the time,[citation needed] rooting a device voids its warranty.
From Wikipedia ...
Here you can download OTA, fresh firmware or system image to update your device.
OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.19.401.2-2.18.401.3_release_448048.zip [41.2 MB]
firmware.zip only [19.6 MB]
2.19.401.2_boot_system_2015-09-21--20-48-04_KOT49H.zip [TWRP] [1.15 GB]
Downloads: mega
Let's see what's underneath
Main difference, I believe, is a security fix (libStageFright). I assume, that's it:
/system/framework/android.policy.jar
/system/framework/conscrypt.jar
/system/framework/framework3.jar
/system/lib/modules/moc_crypto.ko.sig.3.4.10
Zip also contains lots of *.p files (odexes, apk, jars mainly). Viewable through windows explorer. Don't know, what's that. Looks like a hash or a signature.
OTA includes firmware.zip containing {boot, hboot, recovery}, which can be opened through WinRAR (7Zip 15β failed). If you want just firmware, take it. Should be fastboot flashable.
*Additional notes*
Next lines describe my experience before I returned the device state to nearly stock.
Hello there. )
Want to share my experience. I have 2.18.401.3 and got promt to upgrade to 2.19.401.2.
Basically, as I get it, you need original recovery and that's it. (Pushed original kernel just in case. Also device is unlocked (tampered))
But under updating process the script mechanism checks some files to be original. Many system odexes, framework stuff and some libs.
My update failed on checking Books.odex (meanwhile, this app was deleted and redownloaded as user-app)
So, I might try to edit updater-script later or just copy files from update to folders they belong. The ota got a simple and obvious updater script for people who used to deal with them before. I'm considering delete parsing part or just push on screen what gives fail, but let updating happen. Need to be tested with system backup.
city2026 said:
OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.19.401.2-2.18.401.3_release_448048.zip [41.2 MB]
Download: mega
Let's see what's underneath
Main difference, I believe, is a security fix (libStageFright). I assume, that's it:
/system/framework/android.policy.jar
/system/framework/conscrypt.jar
/system/framework/framework3.jar
/system/lib/modules/moc_crypto.ko.sig.3.4.10
Zip also contains lots of *.p files (odexes, apk, jars mainly). Viewable through windows explorer.
OTA includes firmware.zip containing {boot, hboot, recovery}, which can be opened through WinRAR (7Zip 15β failed).
*Additional notes*
Hello there. )
Want to share my experience. I have 2.18.401.3 and got promt to upgrade to 2.19.401.2.
Basically, as I get it, you need original recovery and that's it. (Pushed original kernel just in case. Also device is unlocked (tampered))
But under updating process the script mechanism checks some files to be original. Many system odexes, framework stuff and some libs.
My update failed on checking Books.odex (meanwhile, this app was deleted and redownloaded as user-app)
So, I might try to edit updater-script later or just copy files from update to folders they belong. The ota got a simple and obvious updater script for people who used to deal with them before. I'm considering delete parsing part or just push on screen what gives fail, but let updating happen. Need to be tested with system backup.
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My update stopped for "basicdreams.odex". If you are able to get the update flashed do let the community know
TWRP system backup added
csoulr666 said:
My update stopped for "basicdreams.odex". If you are able to get the update flashed do let the community know
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I tried to update from recent backup (the one before I changed kernel and deleted system apps), but facebook.odex didn't let me.
Finally, the very first backup did it. I took only system and boot, switched twrp recovery to htc, skipped all setup and installed OTA over fresh system.
Here you go. Now you have TWRP image of this update.
BTW, kernel version is different. CL build number is the same.
Hi,
can't I just flash it somehow with TWRP?
The standard update way does not work for me, because of changed *.odex files.
Already tried to flash original recovery etc.
Thanks
ash0r said:
Hi,
can't I just flash it somehow with TWRP?
The standard update way does not work for me, because of changed *.odex files.
Already tried to flash original recovery etc.
Thanks
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Unfortunately you cannot flash this with TWRP.
Is there a possibility to install this update (or any OTA updates) without having a "not-touched" system?
I could of course flash the TWRP recovery (what I've already done - it worked) but in that case I lose all my modifications. Is it possible to restore the TWRP recovery from that post and afterwards restore my own recovery without overwriting the system files which are needed to be up to date?
Thanks
ash0r said:
Is there a possibility to install this update (or any OTA updates) without having a "not-touched" system?
I could of course flash the TWRP recovery (what I've already done - it worked) but in that case I lose all my modifications. Is it possible to restore the TWRP recovery from that post and afterwards restore my own recovery without overwriting the system files which are needed to be up to date?
Thanks
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You can try to restore the TWRP backup in the post. And yes, you will lose every mod since it is a backup of the stock, unrooted firmware.
The main problem of flashing the OTA zip would be that you will have to relock the bootloader before installing . So if you unlock it again, the internal storage will be wiped. The best way is to backup everything(Including the internal storage) and then proceed.
Actually, you can save your data while upgrading from non-worthy stock.
So, you may do this
Full backup, you never know what can go wrong.
Save or make a note of what you changed by yourself in system (from busybox to xposed & various modes.). You may use TB for sys-apps and simple file copying for modes. *
Restore updated system image from 1st post, so you have updated system.
See if it worked out and restore/reinstall your other system stuff.
* Remember, you still may access files of your twrp backup images through some archiver. Like I do using 7-Zip.
It's very important to save backup somewhere, cause it might be that my image can be not absolutely clean or can be not absolute right for your phone (like sell location difference). So it'll be easy to return back to working machine.
For this purposes I also setted up my TB for daily auto-backup of texts and settings and weekly backup of apps.
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Don't sure about relock for upgrading. It seems to be launching, but it needs pure system and original boot & recovery. Some fastboot-magic helps here. That's how I did it after restoring to the very first backup.
So I have build number 2.18.161.3 rooted software on Vodafone, and received an OTA update build number 2.18.161.5-2.18.161.3. Obviously when I come to update it it goes to my custom recovery and can't go any further.
A couple of queries though I wanted to delete all the bloatware from my stock rom, after rooting I found I needed to S-Off as the bloatware keeps coming back on reboot so here are my queries.
Can I delete the APK files from the new OTA update and will this remove them if I install the OTA as a zip through custom recovery. Or can I use this update to wipe the bloatware from it all advice would be helpful
The Watergod said:
So I have build number 2.18.161.3 rooted software on Vodafone, and received an OTA update build number 2.18.161.5-2.18.161.3. Obviously when I come to update it it goes to my custom recovery and can't go any further.
A couple of queries though I wanted to delete all the bloatware from my stock rom, after rooting I found I needed to S-Off as the bloatware keeps coming back on reboot so here are my queries.
Can I delete the APK files from the new OTA update and will this remove them if I install the OTA as a zip through custom recovery. Or can I use this update to wipe the bloatware from it all advice would be helpful
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For bloatware removal just push a custom boot.img. Liberty kernel or dt2w presented here works fine, you may try them at least with making a backup of original kernel at first. (Custom made kernel might give you permission to write to /system without being s-off.)
I used liberty one, recently flashed the one with double tap to wake, works perfectly fine. Even sd is fine.
I'm not into kernels, perhaps as long as they suit your device they are fine.
OTA have its script, if it has such strings or if you write it into the script, you may delete some apps. Maybe, didn't try nothing with ota scripting. It easier to find working universal bloatware removal script as flashable zip package.
Otherwise, ota just adds some stuff or replaces current stuff.
My htc one mini 2 is all stock. Software number is 1.16.61.2 and my fon cant to update software. Please help. Sory for my english.
keninzeg said:
My htc one mini 2 is all stock. Software number is 1.16.61.2 and my fon cant to update software. Please help. Sory for my english.
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Did you buy your phone from a carrier? Carrier phones get different software updates
csoulr666 said:
Did you buy your phone from a carrier? Carrier phones get different software updates
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I bought it used, it has installed EE application from the UK. So is there a way to update. Thanks a lot...
I tried to install OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.16.401.1-1.16.401.2_release from stock recovery and failed.
keninzeg said:
I bought it used, it has installed EE application from the UK. So is there a way to update. Thanks a lot...
I tried to install OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.16.401.1-1.16.401.2_release from stock recovery and failed.
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If it has EE applications then it is an EE branded phone. Your updates will arrive differently and will have a different software number. So using the Europe zip will not help.
city2026 said:
For bloatware removal just push a custom boot.img. Liberty kernel or dt2w presented here works fine, you may try them at least with making a backup of original kernel at first. (Custom made kernel might give you permission to write to /system without being s-off.)
I used liberty one, recently flashed the one with double tap to wake, works perfectly fine. Even sd is fine.
I'm not into kernels, perhaps as long as they suit your device they are fine.
OTA have its script, if it has such strings or if you write it into the script, you may delete some apps. Maybe, didn't try nothing with ota scripting. It easier to find working universal bloatware removal script as flashable zip package.
Otherwise, ota just adds some stuff or replaces current stuff.
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Excellent thanks for the reply so in short,
Grab the downloads from above (4 in total?)
Push and override existing TWRP recovery back to stock recovery (Dumbass Details would be helpful as I have not done this in ages)
copy the ADB the new rom to the phone (Again please forgive me as I have not done this in a few years need a memory jog)
Again thanks in advance
The Watergod said:
Excellent thanks for the reply so in short,
Grab the downloads from above (4 in total?)
Push and override existing TWRP recovery back to stock recovery (Dumbass Details would be helpful as I have not done this in ages)
copy the ADB the new rom to the phone (Again please forgive me as I have not done this in a few years need a memory jog)
Again thanks in advance
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If you'll ask more specificly, I'll provide even shorter reply. )
As I get it, you ask for some short check-list / instruction
You need one of three files I uploaded, based on what do you want. )
You can flash big 1 gb system image v2.19.401.2 through twrp.
You can grab small upgrade package and update your 2.18.401.3 by yourself to have 2.19.401.2. Original firmware and fresh rom state might be needed.
You have other needs, you need just freshest kernel or etc., you grab firmware package and try hook it with bootloader or unzip and get the thing you need.
Pick the option and I'll write simple instruction.
I forget to read your previous post. ) So, you have 2.18.161.3 Vodafone. With root privileges (half-root, I assume)
So, yes, you need to restore original recovery of yours. Then it could handle the ota. If you can get it somewhere, you can update. You can get it in vodafone firmware (big package with everything) or if someone made recovery backup earlier.
My upload contains files for non-locked (operator's) devices.
As long as your phone has operator's rom, I can't give you proper advice. I assume, other recoveries/kernels/etc. might not be ok with your device due to hardware lock or difference.
But you can try always, if you sure you can handle it and revert or if you read on your situation enough. I can't advice you here on 100%.
But. If device is just a device, and roms are just roms (and some operator's special version is just a rom), you can flash other system and kernel and see what happens.
You may do a complete backup and save it somewhere and do one of the following:
Flash firmware.zip* contents, then go to TWRP and format all partitions except sdcard, then flash system image from above.
Just flash some custom 5.1.1 release. I use NostromoPop. It much smoother and it's lollipop.
*Firmware.zip contains boot, hboot, recovery. All that was for 2.19.401.2 but presumably can work separate. So you can get what you want and flash through adb. Like boot and hboot for proper device work on 2.19.401.2, or just recovery to try your vodafone ota w/o dramatic changes.
For futher safeness, you can backup hboot and boot or what you want.
I can recommend you to try custom sense-kernel for system write privileges.
city2026 said:
If you'll ask more specificly, I'll provide even shorter reply. )
As I get it, you ask for some short check-list / instruction
You need one of three files I uploaded, based on what do you want. )
You can flash big 1 gb system image v2.19.401.2 through twrp.
You can grab small upgrade package and update your 2.18.401.3 by yourself to have 2.19.401.2. Original firmware and fresh rom state might be needed.
You have other needs, you need just freshest kernel or etc., you grab firmware package and try hook it with bootloader or unzip and get the thing you need.
Pick the option and I'll write simple instruction.
I forget to read your previous post. ) So, you have 2.18.161.3 Vodafone. With root privileges (half-root, I assume)
So, yes, you need to restore original recovery of yours. Then it could handle the ota. If you can get it somewhere, you can update. You can get it in vodafone firmware (big package with everything) or if someone made recovery backup earlier.
My upload contains files for non-locked (operator's) devices.
As long as your phone has operator's rom, I can't give you proper advice. I assume, other recoveries/kernels/etc. might not be ok with your device due to hardware lock or difference.
But you can try always, if you sure you can handle it and revert or if you read on your situation enough. I can't advice you here on 100%.
But. If device is just a device, and roms are just roms (and some operator's special version is just a rom), you can flash other system and kernel and see what happens.
You may do a complete backup and save it somewhere and do one of the following:
Flash firmware.zip* contents, then go to TWRP and format all partitions except sdcard, then flash system image from above.
Just flash some custom 5.1.1 release. I use NostromoPop. It much smoother and it's lollipop.
*Firmware.zip contains boot, hboot, recovery. All that was for 2.19.401.2 but presumably can work separate. So you can get what you want and flash through adb. Like boot and hboot for proper device work on 2.19.401.2, or just recovery to try your vodafone ota w/o dramatic changes.
For futher safeness, you can backup hboot and boot or what you want.
I can recommend you to try custom sense-kernel for system write privileges.
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Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
The Watergod said:
Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
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Simply flash custom kernel: like liberty sense or stock sense w/ dt2w.
It will unlock the opportunity to write on every partition. I mean system, cache, etc.
The Watergod said:
Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
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Hi
I will assume you have the virus I have been seeing lately that wouldn't allow you to reset the phone, where in reset option the automatic restore option remains checked and you can't uncheck it.
The only solution is through TWRP, you need to enter TWRP, erase Cache, Data, System then flash the Lollipop ROM again or stock from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...one-mini-2-t3250020/post63859743#post63859743
So there is no Rom available that's pretty much stock without bloatware that I can install with twrp? If not is there some idiots guide to putting my stock recovery back on thank you all again