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Upgraded to WM2005. By mistake formated Extended Eom to a small size ( less than required for WM2003SE). Getting ERROR 113 due toEXt Rom size limitation I think. Now can't downgrade to WM2003, nor stay with WM 2005. I still can get to Boat Loader. Please help. Thanks
did you found any solution? i have now the same problem....
HELP
GuidO
1) Do a downgrade to a 1.40 rom found on wiki in the WM5 page
2) Find the rom that you want
2) Delete the radio.nbf and the NK.nbf leaving only the MS.nbf in that dir.
3) run the downgrade as per wiki.
Now use the doc tool and corect the settings (info found in wiki in how to upgrade to WM5.
The doc tool only works if the CE Rom is not wm5.
the downgrade doesn't work
Hi I tried to use the downgrade file, but it doesn't work
where can i find a downgrade to a 1.40 rom found on wiki in the WM5 page. I f i look there i find only .exe.
If it is possible can you send me the good dir or the good url..
Thanx
GuidO
belsj said:
If it is possible can you send me the good dir or the good url..
Thanx
GuidO
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This is the path you want..
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade
Sorry MrPhilly,
but this site i already had seen, but all the dutch roms are .exe, and i have to delete some files says MDAIIIUser
1) Do a downgrade to a 1.40 rom found on wiki in the WM5 page
2) Find the rom that you want
2) Delete the radio.nbf and the NK.nbf leaving only the MS.nbf in that dir.
3) run the downgrade as per wiki. ???
My screen is still in boot blue green red and white with
R 1.13.00
G 1337.42
D 5.03.02 WWE
GuidO
belsj said:
Sorry MrPhilly,
but this site i already had seen, but all the dutch roms are .exe, and i have to delete some files says MDAIIIUser
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Right - Have you followed this..?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
This will, with the 1.40 ROM that MDAIIIUser suggests will hopefully sort it out!
So i have the downgrade files
But when i have to press Power + Softreset, and when the colored stripes shows on the screen, i press the two buttons Record+Camera. Then i see the three options.
I changed them, second and the third to "yes" and then pressed on the mailbutton.
My screen becomes white and thats it.
It doesn't boot on.
What did i do wrong and is my ppc def. dead?
GuidO
you need to wait, have a beer, it has taken 4 mins on mine, thought i turned it into a brick.
Sorry if this is posted before.
I've a problem with my extROM in my xda2s. Before it, ive followed all instruction to unlock my extROM, then partition it then i've made an upgrade with my xda2s with WM2k5_1.60c.00WWE_XDA2_HIMALAYA, first i've got checksum error, so ive made an editing with editfix, after that the himaupgrade checked that the rom, the extrom with strange version (its not like, eg. 1.40, it shows somekind of block & the other ascii character) except the radio. So I kept continue it doubtly & it 100 complete. After that ive got my device just showed with bootloder mode, even ive reset it. i guess that ive done a destructive way ( right ?) so i flashed it again with WM5_pack_V3.rar but with no extROM, & my device alive again so i tried to unlock my extROM with ExtROMUnlocker(for_WM2005_Only).cab, unhide was succeed, unlock was unsucceed, so what am i gonna do now ??? , please help me ... or i'll go to hell with the wrath of my parents .... hiks
desingo said:
Sorry if this is posted before.
I've a problem with my extROM in my xda2s. Before it, ive followed all instruction to unlock my extROM, then partition it then i've made an upgrade with my xda2s with WM2k5_1.60c.00WWE_XDA2_HIMALAYA, first i've got checksum error, so ive made an editing with editfix, after that the himaupgrade checked that the rom, the extrom with strange version (its not like, eg. 1.40, it shows somekind of block & the other ascii character) except the radio. So I kept continue it doubtly & it 100 complete. After that ive got my device just showed with bootloder mode, even ive reset it. i guess that ive done a destructive way ( right ?) so i flashed it again with WM5_pack_V3.rar but with no extROM, & my device alive again so i tried to unlock my extROM with ExtROMUnlocker(for_WM2005_Only).cab, unhide was succeed, unlock was unsucceed, so what am i gonna do now ??? , please help me ... or i'll go to hell with the wrath of my parents .... hiks
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Wah .. sama nich masalah nya.....
btw same problem with me... im loosing extended ROM after upgrade to WM 2005
i have no ext rom either, but is it a BA you upgraded or a HIMALAYA??
MIssing ExtROM
joey jojo said:
i have no ext rom either, but is it a BA you upgraded or a HIMALAYA??
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Ive upgraded BA device
Posting my experience for desingo
Well, i went so mad that i created http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Extended_ROM
that wm5 has no extended rom, i downgraded to wm3 first.
created with the doc resize tool a 'partition" of 4mb's.
than i upgraded back to wm5.
installed the patch, rebooted
now my extrom is visible (see picture on the wikipage) and big enough to put files in, i consider it for now as the /storage of wm2003.
The data survives a registry and storage reset under wm5, but it wont start up,(yet).
The BlueAngel seems to miss a extended rom driver and some registry settings.
If anybody knows what files are used to be in the extended rom driver, please tell me, i
want to try with the wm3se files to recreate that "driver".
Or will the registry cab "EXTROM" thats on the wiki will do if they where integrated in the patched rom version?
After i installed this patch, after a reboot my autorun starts to "install"
So this is where i stranded with this problem, since i got wm5 on.
Curently running on my BlueAngel:
Wm2003SE 4.21.1088 Build 15159..2.6.4
Rom version 1.42.00 WWE
Rom Date 09/05/05
Protocol 1337.42
Radio 1.13
Bluetooth build 3900
Extrom: 1.42.115 WWE
ExtROM missing
pimbo said:
that wm5 has no extended rom, i downgraded to wm3 first.
created with the doc resize tool a 'partition" of 4mb's.
than i upgraded back to wm5.
installed the patch, rebooted
now my extrom is visible (see picture on the wikipage) and big enough to put files in, i consider it for now as the /storage of wm2003.
The data survives a registry and storage reset under wm5, but it wont start up,(yet).
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According to my problem, is it possible if i downgrade to get extrom visible again after it dissappear ?
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According to my problem, is it possible if i downgrade to get extrom visible again after it dissappear ?
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under wm2003
if you resized your rom to go to wm5 you need to resize it back to ?? i gues around 12 or 16mb? for himalaya do not know the value, must be done under wm2003
Than reinstall the wanted extended rom in .nbf with the no id loader.
note: make sure other 2 are nbf are not in, unless you want to do a full upgrade again.
You can always see ur extrom again, but it must be bigger then 128k
and use the extrom cab or a extrom unlocker tool.
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desingo said:
According to my problem, is it possible if i downgrade to get extrom visible again after it dissappear ?
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under wm2003
if you resized your rom to go to wm5 you need to resize it back to ?? i gues around 12 or 16mb? for himalaya do not know the value, must be done under wm2003
Than reinstall the wanted extended rom in .nbf with the no id loader.
note: make sure other 2 are nbf are not in, unless you want to do a full upgrade again.
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sorry, im a little bit complicated do you mean if i want to downgrade to wm2003se i dont need to unlock my missing extrom in wm2005 ? n the nbf i should install is only the extrom ??? what the difference if do a partial downgrade and a full one ???
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desingo said:
sorry, im a little bit complicated do you mean if i want to downgrade to wm2003se i dont need to unlock my missing extrom in wm2005 ?
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i think i dont understand the problem proberly. :lol:
Once you upgraded to wm5 with 60mb storage, you wiped out the extrom password, so your extrom is already unlocked.
so if you go back to wm3 your extrom is stil unlocked.
n the nbf i should install is only the extrom ??? what the difference if do a partial downgrade and a full one ???
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Only if you want to stay om wm3
The time, id could save you 15minutes, but you must be running wm3 and resized your extrom back to the original size, before you can reinstall your extended rom
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pimbo said:
Once you upgraded to wm5 with 60mb storage, you wiped out the extrom password, so your extrom is already unlocked.
so if you go back to wm3 your extrom is stil unlocked.
Sorry again , if the extrom is unlocked in my wm2005, y file manager can't show it up ? :?
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desingo said:
Sorry again , if the extrom is unlocked in my wm2005, y file manager can't show it up ? :?
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U need to unhide it. use the cab from mamaich on the wiki page that i created
yes this is real.
The KJAM rom, which can be found in the FTP of this site, is working on the Qtek9100 !!!
does anyone have any thoughts about that? is this ROM a better one than the 9100? I think it is!
From what I understand, The KJAM is slower with its rom then the QTEK. Because KJAM is full of apps which might not be needed. Once those apps are removed it should be exactly the same ( are the rom version numbers not the same )
ANyone have any views on this ?
I believe the ROM dates are different, with the K-JAM being 9/16/2005 and the Qtek at 9/22/2005. I don't know the difference between the two, but I'd be interested to find out. Also, I'm still trying to find out how to change the splash screens (HTC, then i-mate) when it boots, but it's different than previous HTC models so far (not splash?.nb).
As for the apps, the difference does lie in the Extended ROM, so once you've custom-tailored that area, they should be identical.
HOWEVER, people on HowardForums are complaining about the Bluetooth in the 9100, where K-JAM users don't seem to be having an issue. I didn't check up further on this, can anyone confirm?
Would yo umind sharing information about details? How to avoid device ID error? IS there hacked exe file? I need to flash my QTEK with IMATE ROM since I think BT performance in IMATE is way better.
TIA
bt on the qtek smells
Grill! Wake up and give us a clue,please!
I did the soft reset after the WM5 setup so that the crap wouldn't install and it works great
so what did you do?
imate rom on a qtek???
i got a vender error when try to install the k-mate rom on my qtek 9100. what´s the trick, that it work without the error? please help!
nice we have to get around that.
Anyone try to place the Wizard in bootloader mode first before running the upgrade utility?
If someone can point me out to the Magician upgrade utility with the NoID hack and give me the original file as well, I might be able to do a byte-compare and apply it to the Wizard's upgrade utility.
BeyondtheTech said:
If someone can point me out to the Magician upgrade utility with the NoID hack and give me the original file as well, I might be able to do a byte-compare and apply it to the Wizard's upgrade utility.
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This one? ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip
from here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade
pimbo said:
BeyondtheTech said:
If someone can point me out to the Magician upgrade utility with the NoID hack and give me the original file as well, I might be able to do a byte-compare and apply it to the Wizard's upgrade utility.
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This one? ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip
from here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade
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Hi,
I don't think this is the good way because I unpacked the "KJAM_WWE_ROM_1010903_104_10110_cdl_wwe_ship.exe" (rename to rar)
and I've foud the following files:
EnterBootLoader.exe
nk.nbf (74 MB)
README.doc
ROMUpdateUtility.exe
RUUGetInfo.exe
RUUResource.dll
I don't know which file have to change to "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe".
Any idea?
THX
TB
Again, if I can find out how the NoID utility bypasses the check by comparing it with the original (does anyone have the exact file before it was hacked?), and we can compare, it'll be a start to look for similar code or text in the EXEs or DLLs of K-JAM's upgrade utility.
Find me the unmodified version of the NoID utility. Look on the FTP, and check all the other Blue Angel ROM update utility's EXE files...
thebiker said:
"KJAM_WWE_ROM_1010903_104_10110_cdl_wwe_ship.exe" (rename to rar)
and I've foud the following files:
Well
EnterBootLoader.exe
nk.nbf (74 MB)
README.doc
ROMUpdateUtility.exe
RUUGetInfo.exe
RUUResource.dll
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Looks to me that somebody who knows howto and has this phone for testing could to edit the The ROMUpdateUtility.exe to bypass the country id errors,
And use as refference maybe the hacked no id loader for the BA.
P.s. the original MA upgrade utility should be found in the original roms from the providers of the Magician devices, we got it from them if i'm right.
Hope it helpes a bit,
I'm no developer, but this file sticks out in my mind..."RUUGetInfo.exe" If that is part of the upgrade installer then it looks to me that it is looking for the actual device ID, and it probably has to fall within a certain range to allow the upgrade to proceed. Something to the effect that each country, language or brand has a range. If your device isn't in that range, you are SOL.
With each generation they do something different, and more difficult.
Dave
i think it has to be in the ROM if not then all we have to wait for is a update from qtek and switch the nkf file
vbguru613 said:
i think it has to be in the ROM if not then all we have to wait for is a update from qtek and switch the nkf file
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Nah, it's Much more involved than that. Just look at the process taken to develop the method to do it on the JAM, PDA2K, and so on. With each generation they make it more difficult.
Dopod 838 > K-Jam rom upgrade.. need some work
I had under my hands the Dopod 838 which is infact the cH version of the WIZARD.
I would like to load the imate K-Jam rom to the Dopod
Playing a bit with the machine, it seems that the Boot loader is actually looks like the Typhoon, the TyphoonNBFTools utility will decode the NK.NBF file but I am not sure what is the Vendor ID of the Dopod.
On top of it after altering the Languge from English to WWE and made the vendor DOPOD, the romupgrade utility reports the new version going to Prodigy and the Lang is English. it seems that although the TyphoonNBFTools was able to decode the NK.NBF, the upgrade application did not take the header information.
I did run also the Boot loader command under the MTTY (on the usb port) and command that did work for the typhoon "R2ds all" responded that I do not have the authority to dump the rom image.
Tried the command password WIZARD and although it did take it, still was not authorized to dump the rom image.
If somebody could help find a method to bypass the protection of rom , upgrade (bypass vendor , Country code...) it would be very helpfull to exchange roms.
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I've been playing with the ROMUpdateUtility.exe
Well, i've also noticed that the rom is like a typhoon rom.
Ive removed some strings to RUUGetInfo.exe(since this one seems to do the thing), but i cannot test it,
I got error 222, device not responding, (DUH, its a BA :lol
Maybe somebody can replace this file for the original in the folder and try running it. (if it passes the country id and the model no)
But it is a test, use at your own risk.
Do not blame me for anything.
Found 2003SE ugly but at least useable. WM5 just runs too slowly for me. Do I just need to follow the 1.42 Rom flash tutorial on the wiki to reflash my existing Rom or are there specific steps that need to be done beforehand?
I changed the EXT Rom to 128K as per instructions for WM5 installation will this affect any reversal process?
Thx.
Hi
Yes, you have to do it 'special' way.
Just tell me why haven't you found this wiki page ?
Follow the process carefully.
There are bunch of people stuck with improperly downgraded devices (no risk though... they simply don't know how to repair it)
Good luck
robal said:
Just tell me why haven't you found this wiki page ?
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Stupidity I guess Thx for the link btw. Maybe I'll try the keyword "downgrade" in the find page box of Wiki
I found a problem on this page... this link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades its not working for me. And I wat to download the official ROM for me SX66 (XGULA001)... Does anyone knows an alternative?
Dankan_ said:
I found a problem on this page... this link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades its not working for me. And I wat to download the official ROM for me SX66 (XGULA001)... Does anyone knows an alternative?
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The roms located at
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAn...ates/PH20B1_Siemens_13310_110_10210_WWE_SHIP/
rschell Really thanks!
Justa one more question... It´s just put the device in boot loader mode and run this? My quetsion its becaus the ROM there is in .exe format...
Dankan_ said:
rschell Really thanks!
Justa one more question... It´s just put the device in boot loader mode and run this? My quetsion its becaus the ROM there is in .exe format...
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Just execute the .exe, if you are lucky you won't get any county or model errors, but I doubt it. If you get errors, you will need to follow the instructions by cdaly1970
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=233903#233903
the temp directory in XP is under is something like C:\Documents and Settings\Userid\Local Settings\Temp\xxxxx.tmp
rschell said:
Dankan_ said:
rschell Really thanks!
Justa one more question... It´s just put the device in boot loader mode and run this? My quetsion its becaus the ROM there is in .exe format...
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Just execute the .exe, if you are lucky you won't get any county or model errors, but I doubt it. If you get errors, you will need to follow the instructions by cdaly1970
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=233903#233903
the temp directory in XP is under is something like C:\Documents and Settings\Userid\Local Settings\Temp\xxxxx.tmp
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If you use winrar you could extract that exe so you don't have to go to the temp dir
YESS !!! I think everythink is already on WIKI
Hi.
I'm having some serious problems running WM5 on my SPV M2000 (Blue Angel). Internet Explorer keeps crashing, doesn't browse...bluetooth isn't recieving files from my PC, camera closes on its own, MSN Mobile not working at ALL...etc.
I want to remove this AKU3.5 ROM and return back to my previous WM2003SE ROM from Orange or even Imate. I downloaded the Orange V2.5 ROM update but failed to initialize the update process since the Country ID was incorrect for some odd reason.
Guys can you please help me out of it. Just tell me the safest and easiest way to downgrade back to the original ROM. And is possible that when i downgrade, i can install the Imate PDA2k ROM on my Orange SPV M2000?
I'd really really appreciate your help. Looking forward to your replies!
My device information details are:
ROM version : 5.04.09.WWE
ROM date : 11/02/06
Radio Version : 1.13.00
Protocol Version : 1337.42
ExtROM version : *empty* (blank)
i would make use of wm5 maupgrade_noID utility to flash the .nbf file of wm3 back to the original rom.
imatrix said:
i would make use of wm5 maupgrade_noID utility to flash the .nbf file of wm3 back to the original rom.
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Yeah hi. Thanks for the reply, could you please give me a step by step procedure how am i suppose to do it? Where do i get the files from and how do i go about it.
I'd be grateful man!
As i see you use helmi aku 3.5 rom.
when u extracted the file out of the zip file u initially downloaded, u should see a folder name PH20B1. It includes maupgrade_noid utility there.
so basically what u do is extract the original rom (nk.nbf) into that PH20B1 folder, then put your device to bootloader mode, flash it as normal.
imatrix said:
As i see you use helmi aku 3.5 rom.
when u extracted the file out of the zip file u initially downloaded, u should see a folder name PH20B1. It includes maupgrade_noid utility there.
so basically what u do is extract the original rom (nk.nbf) into that PH20B1 folder, then put your device to bootloader mode, flash it as normal.
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Actually i didn't install Helmi AKU3.5 ROM. I bought my phone used, and had this rom already installed. Now i want to get back to my original factory ROM. And i can't seem to get how to do it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
link above lists all the original rom for each device / operator.
please see the attachment, it's the utility to upgrade.
for further information please read wiki though.
Thank you imatrix. Will go through the link you provided. Thanks for all your help!
By the way...is it possible for me to flash an Imate ROM on an Orange SPV M2000? I find Imate ROMs more stable than Orange.
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I think, you will have a serious problem wwhen you go back to wm2003 mate.. you're bluetooth will be useless, I don't know why and how,,.. I tried wm2003 downgrade last time, and I was worried because when I try to turn my bt on, it keeps may saying that the bluetooth software is expired..bla..bla..and I can't turn my bluetooth on.. though I haven't tried installing abt stack, but I guess same thing will happen.. but its for you to find out.. theres a very comprehensive details on downgrading/upgrading roms on blueangel wiki.. to get rid of that country I'd error, just use maupgradeutnoid.exe which you can also download from there