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PLease i just realised that i was still getting charged for sending text messages, even though i have tha total intertnet plan from tmobile.
I was just wondering if anyone knows of a program that would let me send text messages bypassing the cellular network, and using my internet,(be it wifi or edge or gprs) to carry the messages.
Kinda like when you use your computer to send texts to phones, is there a program for windows mobile?
thank you in advance

I believe there are a few websites out there to send messages with, tmobile used to have a public SMS application, however I am unsure of any method of "relaying" an SMS message through the included pocket outlook sms handler to one of those sites transparently.

thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.

moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.
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one approach might be to use an email server to bounce the messages to sms email addresses.
say you use the email side of the messaging app, either through synching to exchange or through a pop, imap or whatever, and point the email at the sms address, I forget what the tmobile address is, but for example it would be like [email protected]
I guess that semi solves the problem without any programming, you would just need each carrier's email address, and specify a return address that would go to your phone for when they SMS back.

CaptDistraction said:
moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers
previous:H6315(hell in gadget form), Tmo original xda PPCPE.
CaptDistraction, you need to be creative about the 6315; I gave mine to my wife when I upgraded to to 8125. Got rid of the memory hogs and you can't imagine how our relationship has improved, we now talk about the same techy stuff; she complaing, I fixing by the way she no longer complains about how much time I spend with my phone, cause she's now doing the same. Now we have no time to talk to each other...... :twisted:
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Haha, I tried every rom out there, I kept the device for a while and finally sold it to support the MDA purchase.
Man I messed with that 6315 to no end, had so much stuff going on with it trying different app combos, spent hours in the registry, no matter how simple I kept it, I couldn't ever get it to answer calls in a timely fashion.
My biggest love with the MDA is when you press that green answer button, it immediately picks up the call.

Sending text message after refusing call?

Hi,
this is not strictly Kaiser specific I guess.
I recall sometime ago seeing a feature which looked useful. When somebody calls you and lets say you are busy, meeting or driving etc.
You get a prompt to refuse the call and at the same time send a pre-defined text message back to them straight away.
So they get put through to your voicemail and also recieve a text from you to say "Sorry I'm in a meeting, will get back to you ASAP" . Is this a WM 2005+ feature?
Also another one
Is it possible to only send your caller id to people that are in your contacts list when making calls? Anybody else does not see your number?
Thought I saw that one on my old XDA iis?
Thanks
Mike

the text msg one seems useful. what if they are calling from a landline and not mobile like with most businesses? will the sms bounce back to you and says unable to send or something? just curious.

NguyenHuu said:
the text msg one seems useful. what if they are calling from a landline and not mobile like with most businesses? will the sms bounce back to you and says unable to send or something? just curious.
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Well I seem to recall it was up to you what you did with the call, ie based on the number ringing . In the uk at least its possible to spot a mobile number easily.
I seem to think a small menu came up with several choices.

i don't know if this app will help. I've never used it but ran across it a few weeks ago.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/10/23/the-mobile-secretary.aspx

I bet something like this could be down with MortScript... I'll research it, i've been wanting to get into MortScript, this would be a perfect test.

Dirky said:
Hi,
this is not strictly Kaiser specific I guess.
I recall sometime ago seeing a feature which looked useful. When somebody calls you and lets say you are busy, meeting or driving etc.
You get a prompt to refuse the call and at the same time send a pre-defined text message back to them straight away.
So they get put through to your voicemail and also recieve a text from you to say "Sorry I'm in a meeting, will get back to you ASAP" . Is this a WM 2005+ feature?
Thanks
Mike
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There are several apps (commercial ones) that do this. PhotoContacts Pro does it. And I think a couple of other phone utils do also (SPB or VITO may make one, don't remember).

imtribble said:
i don't know if this app will help. I've never used it but ran across it a few weeks ago.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/10/23/the-mobile-secretary.aspx
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Yes that looks very much like it.
I was sure it was part of WM already. Must have got it wrong.
Thanks, I'll check it out when I get my WM device soon!
Mike

Call Firewall
I'm using call firewall, it's a great app imo....

Photo Contact Pro has a reject/auto SMS feature. As for caller ID, My Kaiser has the following function. Go to phone, Menu tab, Options, Services, highlite Caller ID & press get settings. It then allows me the option to:
1. Send ID to everyone
2. Send ID to contacts only
3. Do not send ID
Maybe this is AT&T specific, but thought I'd throw it out there.

petervbeck said:
I'm using call firewall, it's a great app imo....
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Only thing with ''call firewall'' is that when you are on a call if a call comes in it disconnect both the call your on and the one coming in... my experience.

There is also Magicall that does this:
http://www.mobiion.com/magicall.html

SMS Inbox shows Contact Numbers instead of Names

Hey all,
I've had my Kaiser a while now, and I love it to pieces. However...
When I open my SMS/MMS inbox, I see all my texts, but instead of showing the Name of the person who sent me a message, it shows there number (i.e +447870111111). This happens if I haven't pre-saved the contact to my phone (Even though the contacts were saved on my simcard). What's more, I thought copying all the contacts from my SIM to my phone would work, but no look. And now, I have 2 sets of all numbers! (one on SIM and one on Phone).
So My questions are:
Is there a way to have my SMS inbox show the contacts name, rather than number?
Is there a way to tell the Kaiser to hide my Sim Contacts, and just display my phone contacts.
I've searched and searched for these issues, but cannot find anything. I'm fairly technical so am usually good with these type of things. But any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott

for the second question, use kaiser-tweak ...
there's a option under [contacts] where you can disable sim-contacts.
the other question i can't help, sry
bye andré

OK Cheers Edi, Anybody for question number one? Surely this issue affects others?

Just to confirm I'm not a jinx, can somebody else who experiences this issu please post?

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When you store a contact after receiving an SMS, the SMS database is not updated with the contact info and so the Inbox will show with the number alone! But after storing it once, the next SMS will be named with the Contact. This is how it happens in Windows Mobile or the way it handles the messages. The updating is not done in all SMS after a contact is stored as it would slow down the device.
Regards,
Carty..

Thanks for that Carty, now i know I'm not going insane!
It's a shame it has to be that way though... Standard mobile phones usually update themselves when you've saved the number as a contact. Ah well, I still have the best phone ever!
Cheers

Experiencing The Same Problem
Try to include the country code and for sure you'll have the name appear. Problem will be, when that person is calling from the same country... Country code will be omited. So you wouldn't see the name of the person who's calling... and vise versa
Did you find any solution?
Thanks,
Angelo
Audio said:
Hey all,
I've had my Kaiser a while now, and I love it to pieces. However...
When I open my SMS/MMS inbox, I see all my texts, but instead of showing the Name of the person who sent me a message, it shows there number (i.e +447870111111). This happens if I haven't pre-saved the contact to my phone (Even though the contacts were saved on my simcard). What's more, I thought copying all the contacts from my SIM to my phone would work, but no look. And now, I have 2 sets of all numbers! (one on SIM and one on Phone).
So My questions are:
Is there a way to have my SMS inbox show the contacts name, rather than number?
Is there a way to tell the Kaiser to hide my Sim Contacts, and just display my phone contacts.
I've searched and searched for these issues, but cannot find anything. I'm fairly technical so am usually good with these type of things. But any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
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Apologies
I'm sorry. I guess my problem is different...
Audio said:
Thanks for that Carty, now i know I'm not going insane!
It's a shame it has to be that way though... Standard mobile phones usually update themselves when you've saved the number as a contact. Ah well, I still have the best phone ever!
Cheers
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Wow this thread's a blast from the past
TBH I've not noticed the problem again, which could mean one of two things:
1) The problem has now gone after Flashing a WM6.1 ROM, or
2) I haven't had any "New" people send me a text.
Sorry I can't be of more help...

Hi,
I haven't had an issue with numbers showing on an SMS instead of names (as I store my numbers as +447976123456, but I did have a REALLY annoying issue with SMS delivery reports having the number instead of the name.
This would have been fine if I sent one text every now and then , but as a heavy texter it drove me nuts - never knowing whos message had been delivered.
Just in case anyone else is having trouble with this - try the attached file - it lets you change the format of the report you get when your SMS is delivered!
Cheers
Zippyioa

Two mobile numbers for one contact

Do someone know how to put two mobile numbers in one contact.
It is very important, because it is very complicated to send SMS on the mobile number if it is stored under another type of number.
Some of my friend have two numbers and also if someone is writing me an SMS from a number that is not stored under mobile and I want answer, you can't just tap for replay, because the Diamond will use the default mobile number of the contact, not the from from which the SMS was send... it is really incredible. I realised it after some friends didn't recieved my SMS... also because you cannot check to which number you send it... there is just a name!!!
Do someone have a solution?!?!?
It is really annoying for me!!
Thnx!!

Urosh said:
Do someone know how to put two mobile numbers in one contact.
It is very important, because it is very complicated to send SMS on the mobile number if it is stored under another type of number.
Some of my friend have two numbers and also if someone is writing me an SMS from a number that is not stored under mobile and I want answer, you can't just tap for replay, because the Diamond will use the default mobile number of the contact, not the from from which the SMS was send... it is really incredible. I realised it after some friends didn't recieved my SMS... also because you cannot check to which number you send it... there is just a name!!!
Do someone have a solution?!?!?
It is really annoying for me!!
Thnx!!
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You should be able to solve it via editing the contact either on the PC with which you sync or directly on your device, going to contacts and editing the contact. Just enter the second number in another field, like home, work, main, primary, etc. The label does not really matter.

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The label does not really matter.
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As the OP states the label absolutely does matter. For example, a telephone number in the 'Work' field will never be offered when typing a name into the To: field of an SMS message.
Mathew

MJNewton said:
As the OP states the label absolutely does matter. For example, a telephone number in the 'Work' field will never be offered when typing a name into the To: field of an SMS message.
Mathew
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Correct, for SMS only Mobile will be offered as alternative but as for Caller ID it does not matter.

Not sure if it would help you or even work for your problem, but in Outlook there is a phone type of "car" that you could use. Like I said, not sure if that would help with the SMS issue, but it might.

MJNewton understood my problem...
My problem is to send an SMS to a number which is not under the label mobile.
Also the car label doesn't work. It offers you only the mobile number for sending SMS.
It is really very stupid not to add also a mobile2 label and to offer both numbers!
Would someone invent something for this?!? Do only we in Slovenia have sometimes two mobile numbers?!?!
Thnx!!
U.

Urosh said:
MJNewton understood my problem...
My problem is to send an SMS to a number which is not under the label mobile.
Also the car label doesn't work. It offers you only the mobile number for sending SMS.
It is really very stupid not to add also a mobile2 label and to offer both numbers!
Would someone invent something for this?!? Do only we in Slovenia have sometimes two mobile numbers?!?!
Thnx!!
U.
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Same here, I have friends studying abroad, with one mobile phone in each country... Solved it using the "work" section, but it's not that good for the SMS... Perhaps if we find the template somewhere it could be changed ?

I would think the logical solution (workaround) would be to have two different contacts in your contact list.

I have this issue aswell.
What yoiu could try is use an app like Icontact or pocketcm.
I beleive you can pick the number were you want to sms to.
have not try'd it my self

i dont have this problem?
if i goto new text, then add contact the contacts list appears, then when i click the contact i have to choose which number i want (mobile, work, mobile2, home ect)
which method are you using to add contacts to the SMS?

rumpleforeskin said:
i dont have this problem?
if i goto new text, then add contact the contacts list appears, then when i click the contact i have to choose which number i want (mobile, work, mobile2, home ect)
which method are you using to add contacts to the SMS?
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The problem is if you go to your contacts, select one and then pick write sms.
you wont get an option.
or when you reply to an sms (al though i do think then when i reply it does sent it to the number you are replying to.
but it is annoying that you cant see which number it was)

When you use the SMS application and you press "To:" it will show your contacts list and when chosing a name you'll be presented with all the numbers you have for that contact wether mobile, home or work so I don't really see the problem.
Garcia

...possible.....
I don't have too many friends walking around with two mobiles consistently on their person so I don't really considerthis an issue
but if I did (like for differnet countries) and I wanted this to work I would make an exact copy of the original Contact amd slightly change the name to represent the second mobile i.e.
Fred1 Smith xxxxxx
Fred2 Smith yyyyyy
....suppose that would work....

Two mobiles in one contact.
You can't do that on the phone although outlook could do it!
Do as I did in the past.
You have two numbers for John Smith?
contact1: JohnSmith1
contact2: JohnSmith2
TWO MOBILES!!
How far out can you fall with the same name?
I actually had each number on different name because I wanted to know straight way who phoned me.
So I had like DaveMob, DaveHm, DaveFax, etc.

SMS Grouping

I'm looking for a SMS app that allow you to turn off SMS grouping so that all messages appear as seperate entries even if they are from the same person.
The stock app doesn't doesn't do this & I have tried a few from the market place, but none have this option.
Anyone got any ideas?

I dont think any app would do that. Its kinda retarted dont you think? I
swyped from a galaxy far far away...

natious said:
I dont think any app would do that. Its kinda retarted dont you think?
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Normally I would agree but I have a unique situation. I receive about 10 automated service service jobs via SMS a day from one particular company. Unfortunately there system uses a lot of different numbers to send from, so it gets very confusing with some SMS's grouped togeather and others by them self.
I want the old fashion system of just displaying one SMS after another.

KTM690 said:
Normally I would agree but I have a unique situation. I receive about 10 automated service service jobs via SMS a day from one particular company. Unfortunately there system uses a lot of different numbers to send from, so it gets very confusing with some SMS's grouped togeather and others by them self.
I want the old fashion system of just displaying one SMS after another.
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You could give the contact a global name like "YOUR COMPANY HERE" and then add all the numbers to that contact, so in your inbox it all of them should be displayed, and in order of the time you received them.
This would only work if you have a set of numbers, if you are always getting new numbers then i dont know what you could do, ill have a think.

natious said:
You could give the contact a global name like "YOUR COMPANY HERE" and then add all the numbers to that contact, so in your inbox it all of them should be displayed, and in order of the time you received them.
This would only work if you have a set of numbers, if you are always getting new numbers then i dont know what you could do, ill have a think.
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Thanks for the idea but I have tried this. Even if the numbers are under the same contact the SMS's are still listed separately if there not from exactly the same number. Not sure how many numbers this company uses but I suppect it's over 20.