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Hey all,
I've had my Kaiser a while now, and I love it to pieces. However...
When I open my SMS/MMS inbox, I see all my texts, but instead of showing the Name of the person who sent me a message, it shows there number (i.e +447870111111). This happens if I haven't pre-saved the contact to my phone (Even though the contacts were saved on my simcard). What's more, I thought copying all the contacts from my SIM to my phone would work, but no look. And now, I have 2 sets of all numbers! (one on SIM and one on Phone).
So My questions are:
Is there a way to have my SMS inbox show the contacts name, rather than number?
Is there a way to tell the Kaiser to hide my Sim Contacts, and just display my phone contacts.
I've searched and searched for these issues, but cannot find anything. I'm fairly technical so am usually good with these type of things. But any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
for the second question, use kaiser-tweak ...
there's a option under [contacts] where you can disable sim-contacts.
the other question i can't help, sry
bye andré
OK Cheers Edi, Anybody for question number one? Surely this issue affects others?
Just to confirm I'm not a jinx, can somebody else who experiences this issu please post?
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When you store a contact after receiving an SMS, the SMS database is not updated with the contact info and so the Inbox will show with the number alone! But after storing it once, the next SMS will be named with the Contact. This is how it happens in Windows Mobile or the way it handles the messages. The updating is not done in all SMS after a contact is stored as it would slow down the device.
Regards,
Carty..
Thanks for that Carty, now i know I'm not going insane!
It's a shame it has to be that way though... Standard mobile phones usually update themselves when you've saved the number as a contact. Ah well, I still have the best phone ever!
Cheers
Experiencing The Same Problem
Try to include the country code and for sure you'll have the name appear. Problem will be, when that person is calling from the same country... Country code will be omited. So you wouldn't see the name of the person who's calling... and vise versa
Did you find any solution?
Thanks,
Angelo
Audio said:
Hey all,
I've had my Kaiser a while now, and I love it to pieces. However...
When I open my SMS/MMS inbox, I see all my texts, but instead of showing the Name of the person who sent me a message, it shows there number (i.e +447870111111). This happens if I haven't pre-saved the contact to my phone (Even though the contacts were saved on my simcard). What's more, I thought copying all the contacts from my SIM to my phone would work, but no look. And now, I have 2 sets of all numbers! (one on SIM and one on Phone).
So My questions are:
Is there a way to have my SMS inbox show the contacts name, rather than number?
Is there a way to tell the Kaiser to hide my Sim Contacts, and just display my phone contacts.
I've searched and searched for these issues, but cannot find anything. I'm fairly technical so am usually good with these type of things. But any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Scott
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Apologies
I'm sorry. I guess my problem is different...
Audio said:
Thanks for that Carty, now i know I'm not going insane!
It's a shame it has to be that way though... Standard mobile phones usually update themselves when you've saved the number as a contact. Ah well, I still have the best phone ever!
Cheers
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Wow this thread's a blast from the past
TBH I've not noticed the problem again, which could mean one of two things:
1) The problem has now gone after Flashing a WM6.1 ROM, or
2) I haven't had any "New" people send me a text.
Sorry I can't be of more help...
Hi,
I haven't had an issue with numbers showing on an SMS instead of names (as I store my numbers as +447976123456, but I did have a REALLY annoying issue with SMS delivery reports having the number instead of the name.
This would have been fine if I sent one text every now and then , but as a heavy texter it drove me nuts - never knowing whos message had been delivered.
Just in case anyone else is having trouble with this - try the attached file - it lets you change the format of the report you get when your SMS is delivered!
Cheers
Zippyioa
Hi,
I was wondering, if it is possible to save two mobile/ cell numbers under one contact, so when you are typing his/ her name in the new message page, both of them show up as options.
Thanks!
I don't think this is possible in Windows Mobile messaging.
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Add recipient let's you pick the number though.
Ugh!
Crap...i know a lot of people who have two cell phones..primarily different cell numbers for different countries when they are travelling..i wish there was a way to store two cell numbers under one contact
yep most my contacts have 2 mobiles as well. some have 4 or more. I store em under the other fields like car, work2 etc etc. I guess we just have to work with what we have.
I think WM does not smart than Symbian in this. every cell phone or work phone or home phone number can use to send message
Umm
Right, I guess. But when you are typing an SMS, and you write a person's name in Windows mobile, by default only his cell phone number shows up. All other numbers, you need to go into the contact, copy the number and then paste it in your messaging window and then send it...unless there's a better way..(which I have no clue about!)...
Inesoft Address Book allows you to enter as many numbers for one contact as you want. Every number can have any label.
Awesome!
Thanks! I'll check it out!
jatin.ahuja said:
Right, I guess. But when you are typing an SMS, and you write a person's name in Windows mobile, by default only his cell phone number shows up. All other numbers, you need to go into the contact, copy the number and then paste it in your messaging window and then send it...unless there's a better way..(which I have no clue about!)...
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instead of typing the name at once. hit enter. you'll be given your whole contact list. now start typing the name. select it and you will be given the option to select from all the numbers in the contact's card. so basically you just add 1 step to the process.
wow
i never knew we could do that! Thank you! Beats installing additional software!
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i never knew we could do that! Thank you! Beats installing additional software!
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glad to help
Do someone know how to put two mobile numbers in one contact.
It is very important, because it is very complicated to send SMS on the mobile number if it is stored under another type of number.
Some of my friend have two numbers and also if someone is writing me an SMS from a number that is not stored under mobile and I want answer, you can't just tap for replay, because the Diamond will use the default mobile number of the contact, not the from from which the SMS was send... it is really incredible. I realised it after some friends didn't recieved my SMS... also because you cannot check to which number you send it... there is just a name!!!
Do someone have a solution?!?!?
It is really annoying for me!!
Thnx!!
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Do someone know how to put two mobile numbers in one contact.
It is very important, because it is very complicated to send SMS on the mobile number if it is stored under another type of number.
Some of my friend have two numbers and also if someone is writing me an SMS from a number that is not stored under mobile and I want answer, you can't just tap for replay, because the Diamond will use the default mobile number of the contact, not the from from which the SMS was send... it is really incredible. I realised it after some friends didn't recieved my SMS... also because you cannot check to which number you send it... there is just a name!!!
Do someone have a solution?!?!?
It is really annoying for me!!
Thnx!!
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You should be able to solve it via editing the contact either on the PC with which you sync or directly on your device, going to contacts and editing the contact. Just enter the second number in another field, like home, work, main, primary, etc. The label does not really matter.
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The label does not really matter.
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As the OP states the label absolutely does matter. For example, a telephone number in the 'Work' field will never be offered when typing a name into the To: field of an SMS message.
Mathew
MJNewton said:
As the OP states the label absolutely does matter. For example, a telephone number in the 'Work' field will never be offered when typing a name into the To: field of an SMS message.
Mathew
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Correct, for SMS only Mobile will be offered as alternative but as for Caller ID it does not matter.
Not sure if it would help you or even work for your problem, but in Outlook there is a phone type of "car" that you could use. Like I said, not sure if that would help with the SMS issue, but it might.
MJNewton understood my problem...
My problem is to send an SMS to a number which is not under the label mobile.
Also the car label doesn't work. It offers you only the mobile number for sending SMS.
It is really very stupid not to add also a mobile2 label and to offer both numbers!
Would someone invent something for this?!? Do only we in Slovenia have sometimes two mobile numbers?!?!
Thnx!!
U.
Urosh said:
MJNewton understood my problem...
My problem is to send an SMS to a number which is not under the label mobile.
Also the car label doesn't work. It offers you only the mobile number for sending SMS.
It is really very stupid not to add also a mobile2 label and to offer both numbers!
Would someone invent something for this?!? Do only we in Slovenia have sometimes two mobile numbers?!?!
Thnx!!
U.
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Same here, I have friends studying abroad, with one mobile phone in each country... Solved it using the "work" section, but it's not that good for the SMS... Perhaps if we find the template somewhere it could be changed ?
I would think the logical solution (workaround) would be to have two different contacts in your contact list.
I have this issue aswell.
What yoiu could try is use an app like Icontact or pocketcm.
I beleive you can pick the number were you want to sms to.
have not try'd it my self
i dont have this problem?
if i goto new text, then add contact the contacts list appears, then when i click the contact i have to choose which number i want (mobile, work, mobile2, home ect)
which method are you using to add contacts to the SMS?
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i dont have this problem?
if i goto new text, then add contact the contacts list appears, then when i click the contact i have to choose which number i want (mobile, work, mobile2, home ect)
which method are you using to add contacts to the SMS?
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The problem is if you go to your contacts, select one and then pick write sms.
you wont get an option.
or when you reply to an sms (al though i do think then when i reply it does sent it to the number you are replying to.
but it is annoying that you cant see which number it was)
When you use the SMS application and you press "To:" it will show your contacts list and when chosing a name you'll be presented with all the numbers you have for that contact wether mobile, home or work so I don't really see the problem.
Garcia
...possible.....
I don't have too many friends walking around with two mobiles consistently on their person so I don't really considerthis an issue
but if I did (like for differnet countries) and I wanted this to work I would make an exact copy of the original Contact amd slightly change the name to represent the second mobile i.e.
Fred1 Smith xxxxxx
Fred2 Smith yyyyyy
....suppose that would work....
Two mobiles in one contact.
You can't do that on the phone although outlook could do it!
Do as I did in the past.
You have two numbers for John Smith?
contact1: JohnSmith1
contact2: JohnSmith2
TWO MOBILES!!
How far out can you fall with the same name?
I actually had each number on different name because I wanted to know straight way who phoned me.
So I had like DaveMob, DaveHm, DaveFax, etc.
I keep getting texts from +474663. The text says "Content not supported". I have been getting them for months. I get charged for every incoming text receive, (except for my Favorite 5 contacts), so I have to forward the texts to a specific number to get them deducted off my bill. It's a pain in the a** and I would like to stop them.
How do I find out where they are coming from? I did try an app that blocks texts, but it didn't work.
My carrier can't do anything about, I asked them.
Thanks,
Ian
Have you test to google that number.
Isn't there some (Who has the telephone number) Internet site in Canada.
A long time ago (2004-2005) had I SE T630 that I failed to set up the MMS with my provider (didn't know that providers could send configurations settings by SMS).
My little sister though loved to take photos with her Samsung phone and send them as MMS to me. My provider then sent a SMS telling me that a MMS had been sent to my number.
Had for two years pre paid with Telenor and they would send me a SMS telling me how much money there was left, after each outgoing call and SMS.
Resulting in my simple SE T280i's SMS inbox was filled and also had missed "more or less important" SMS.
(After some time I stopped looking and erase the providers SMS's, resulting that "new messages icon" always was visible).
I still have the provider (now Halebop) to send a SMS when a certain amount of money been spent on calls and messages per month.
Have you texted back asking to stop?
MacaronyMax said:
Have you texted back asking to stop?
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Actually, yes, a couple of times with no luck.
Blåburk said:
Have you test to google that number.
Isn't there some (Who has the telephone number) Internet site in Canada.
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Yes and no. The first thing I did was Google the # and got no decent result.
So I guess there isn't any solution to this problem. People can just text anonymously and get away with it. I can't believe in this day of technology a person has to be subjected to crap text messages and has no recourse.
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So I guess there isn't any solution to this problem. People can just text anonymously and get away with it. I can't believe in this day of technology a person has to be subjected to crap text messages and has no recourse.
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u gotta call your cell provider , and ask if you bought any service from anyone , they maybe even taking your money !!
and while ya at it , they can block the number for you too ..
If you have AT&T you can call them and tell them you want to block a specific number and they'll block it so that when that person texts you, AT&T will automatically send them a reply that says "this number is out of service" or something similar, and you'll never get their texts and won't be charged. Most providers probably offer something like that. I know this because back in college one of my girlfriends' moms didn't like me and blocked me so she couldn't text me lol.
w98seeng said:
I keep getting texts from +474663. The text says "Content not supported". I have been getting them for months. I get charged for every incoming text receive, (except for my Favorite 5 contacts), so I have to forward the texts to a specific number to get them deducted off my bill. It's a pain in the a** and I would like to stop them.
How do I find out where they are coming from? I did try an app that blocks texts, but it didn't work.
My carrier can't do anything about, I asked them.
Thanks,
Ian
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Since you said "Fav 5" I am guessing that you are with T-Mobile. I worked for T-Mobile in the highest tier as a tech. This number is obviously a short code and even though they don't have a system that allows blocking of sms from regular numbers, they can block short codes. Did it all the time myself. Call tech support tell them that you are receiving short code sms and have tried to stop them and it needs to be blacklisted. They will be able to see where they are coming from (they may not tell you) but they can blacklist it.
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My carrier can't do anything about, I asked them.
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Doesnt sound right to me...
If you dont want that number to text you then they can block it. Unless theres a law against that over there which I dont know about or something, which would suck.
Phone back and kick up a fuss...
conantroutman said:
Doesnt sound right to me...
If you dont want that number to text you then they can block it. Unless theres a law against that over there which I dont know about or something, which would suck.
Phone back and kick up a fuss...
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Tmo can't block individual numbers but they can blacklist shortcodes.
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Ok, I guess I "ass"umed. Looked at your profile and see that you are not on tmo and you are in canada. You can try what I posted above with your company and see if it is the same thing.
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Tmo can't block individual numbers but they can blacklist shortcodes.
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Lol that's ridiculous. Switch to another provider then because tmo sucks in every way.
Thanks all for the help.
Ian
Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?
km8j said:
Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?
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without testing, it's either alphabetical or indexed, meaning it will display the first instance of the phone number it comes across. For me, if I don't have a personal line for an individual, i remove that number from their contact info.
I'm not sure what will happen if you have two contacts with the same number in People. I would guess that whichever comes first in the default sort will appear as the caller.
What I do is set up a contact with just the company name, and put the various contacts for that Co. in the notes field. Of course you won't know "who" is calling you from that company, but if they all have the same number, how is Android to know?
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Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?
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As said above, I can't remember if it's alphabetical or indexed, but I believe it's alphabetical (i.e. if you work with John, Sally and Chris, Chris' name will always show up from that contact). If that's the case, you could create a contact like "A-Acme Corp" since "A" displays higher on the list.
Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared, so I'd rather have the contact really indicate who I'm calling, which is the company, not the person.
binary visions said:
As said above, I can't remember if it's alphabetical or indexed, but I believe it's alphabetical (i.e. if you work with John, Sally and Chris, Chris' name will always show up from that contact). If that's the case, you could create a contact like "A-Acme Corp" since "A" displays higher on the list.
Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared, so I'd rather have the contact really indicate who I'm calling, which is the company, not the person.
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You don't always have control over this, i.e., global address books syncing over Exchange.
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You don't always have control over this, i.e., global address books syncing over Exchange.
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most of the companies i've worked for/with have had a phone system with one external, but multiple internal lines. when i sync my contacts with exchange, the internal number is synced, so i am able to dial those individuals directly. however, if they call me, i have no idea who it is.
the only exception i've had to this rule are small businesses where you call and ask if you can talk to "sally" or whatever (or they don't have extensions, or the extensions aren't externally facing, etc). in that case, i don't bother with individualized contacts. i'll have a contact that says, "State Farm (Betty)" or something similar, so I know who to ask for.
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Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared,
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Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.
Puzzlegal said:
Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.
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This is definitely a valid use case. There has to be a way to set as a default phone number a specific contact, then you would add a generic contact for "home" or "Company XYZ".
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Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.
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I understand, I'm not saying my solution is the only way to do it. Just that it's one way to do it.
I have a "Home" contact that has my home phone number and home address. I don't need my girlfriend to have our home phone number listed on her contact, I just know I call "home" when I need to call home.
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I understand, I'm not saying my solution is the only way to do it. Just that it's one way to do it.
I have a "Home" contact that has my home phone number and home address. I don't need my girlfriend to have our home phone number listed on her contact, I just know I call "home" when I need to call home.
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That is certainly a solution. i could set up separate contacts for "home", "husband at work", and "husband's cell phone". But it seems simpler to keep all him contact information in one place. Same for my kids, who also have multiple phone numbers.
A lot of Google services seem to assume that a phone number is only relevant for a single person. I think that's a design flaw, as it's often not true. It's not a big deal in looking up contacts, but google phone numbers are essentially broken, as it won't let two different google phone numbers point to the same home number. (and there are three of us who would like to have the google number ring there at least some of the time.)
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That is certainly a solution. i could set up separate contacts for "home", "husband at work", and "husband's cell phone". But it seems simpler to keep all him contact information in one place. Same for my kids, who also have multiple phone numbers.
A lot of Google services seem to assume that a phone number is only relevant for a single person. I think that's a design flaw, as it's often not true. It's not a big deal in looking up contacts, but google phone numbers are essentially broken, as it won't let two different google phone numbers point to the same home number. (and there are three of us who would like to have the google number ring there at least some of the time.)
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to your point, i'd be interested in seeing how other devices are handling it. i don't think its a design flaw at all. phone numbers have "always" been individualized. your home phone goes to "one" caller ID description (whether you change it with the phone co or not) - it's always going to say "The Smiths" regardless of who is placing the phone call to whom.
if you add "The Smiths" phone number to Mr., Mrs., Sally and Jr., it's still "The Smiths" phone number.
Harry Smith could be calling you on your caller ID, but it's really Jr....
i don't know any way around this, personally, short of the suggestions listed above. There's no solution for what you're asking. What do you want, voice recognition? And I'm sorry if that comes off a little snarky, but I honestly can't think of a way to handle a grouping of contacts that use the same contact information. What it sounds like you're asking is a way to create a "The Smiths" phone book entry, and marking it as "show as incoming call" so you don't jump to conclusions of who is on the other line.
I understand that the "from" address has to be "the Smiths", or some single name. But I am really frustrated that Google Voice can't pipe my calls and my son's calls both to our home phone number, even if it could only show one of them names if we replied from that number. Both of us would like to recieve calls at that number when we are at home.
It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.
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I understand that the "from" address has to be "the Smiths", or some single name. But I am really frustrated that Google Voice can't pipe my calls and my son's calls both to our home phone number, even if it could only show one of them names if we replied from that number. Both of us would like to recieve calls at that number when we are at home.
It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.
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well forwarding multiple numbers to a single number is an entirely different issue than your original post. i've never been in your situation (that i can think of) so i can't relate. although i find it interesting google would care how many numbers were forwarded to a single number.
if you're already using google voice numbers, why not use google voice to place calls on your cells? that way, if Jr. gets a call on his GV #, it will ring his personal cell phone.
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...It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.
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well forwarding multiple numbers to a single number is an entirely different issue than your original post. i've never been in your situation (that i can think of) so i can't relate. although i find it interesting google would care how many numbers were forwarded to a single number.
if you're already using google voice numbers, why not use google voice to place calls on your cells? that way, if Jr. gets a call on his GV #, it will ring his personal cell phone.
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Because then we don't get calls when we are at home -- thus the desire to have google voice numbers sometimes forward to the home number.
This is actually WHY I don't use google voice. Because so long as it depends on my being the only user of any number I want it to farward to, it's basically broken for me.
Anyhow, I agree that this is entirely different from the problem that started the thread. I just live with the phone always showing my daughter when I place or recieve a call to my home. That's annoying, but not broken from a usability standpoint. (My preference would be for it to show the same person I looked up when I placed the call for outgoing calls, and my husband for incoming calls, since he calls me more than the others, and obviously, the phone has no way to know who is on the other end.) I just brought up the google voice thing to point out that Google doesn't seem to have put a lot of effort into usability when phone numbers are shared.
if you're using IP phone (using GV to make/receive calls), service has nothing to do with it. Just use your broadband connection.