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Two mobile numbers for one contact

Do someone know how to put two mobile numbers in one contact.
It is very important, because it is very complicated to send SMS on the mobile number if it is stored under another type of number.
Some of my friend have two numbers and also if someone is writing me an SMS from a number that is not stored under mobile and I want answer, you can't just tap for replay, because the Diamond will use the default mobile number of the contact, not the from from which the SMS was send... it is really incredible. I realised it after some friends didn't recieved my SMS... also because you cannot check to which number you send it... there is just a name!!!
Do someone have a solution?!?!?
It is really annoying for me!!
Thnx!!

Urosh said:
Do someone know how to put two mobile numbers in one contact.
It is very important, because it is very complicated to send SMS on the mobile number if it is stored under another type of number.
Some of my friend have two numbers and also if someone is writing me an SMS from a number that is not stored under mobile and I want answer, you can't just tap for replay, because the Diamond will use the default mobile number of the contact, not the from from which the SMS was send... it is really incredible. I realised it after some friends didn't recieved my SMS... also because you cannot check to which number you send it... there is just a name!!!
Do someone have a solution?!?!?
It is really annoying for me!!
Thnx!!
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You should be able to solve it via editing the contact either on the PC with which you sync or directly on your device, going to contacts and editing the contact. Just enter the second number in another field, like home, work, main, primary, etc. The label does not really matter.

tnyynt said:
The label does not really matter.
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As the OP states the label absolutely does matter. For example, a telephone number in the 'Work' field will never be offered when typing a name into the To: field of an SMS message.
Mathew

MJNewton said:
As the OP states the label absolutely does matter. For example, a telephone number in the 'Work' field will never be offered when typing a name into the To: field of an SMS message.
Mathew
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Correct, for SMS only Mobile will be offered as alternative but as for Caller ID it does not matter.

Not sure if it would help you or even work for your problem, but in Outlook there is a phone type of "car" that you could use. Like I said, not sure if that would help with the SMS issue, but it might.

MJNewton understood my problem...
My problem is to send an SMS to a number which is not under the label mobile.
Also the car label doesn't work. It offers you only the mobile number for sending SMS.
It is really very stupid not to add also a mobile2 label and to offer both numbers!
Would someone invent something for this?!? Do only we in Slovenia have sometimes two mobile numbers?!?!
Thnx!!
U.

Urosh said:
MJNewton understood my problem...
My problem is to send an SMS to a number which is not under the label mobile.
Also the car label doesn't work. It offers you only the mobile number for sending SMS.
It is really very stupid not to add also a mobile2 label and to offer both numbers!
Would someone invent something for this?!? Do only we in Slovenia have sometimes two mobile numbers?!?!
Thnx!!
U.
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Same here, I have friends studying abroad, with one mobile phone in each country... Solved it using the "work" section, but it's not that good for the SMS... Perhaps if we find the template somewhere it could be changed ?

I would think the logical solution (workaround) would be to have two different contacts in your contact list.

I have this issue aswell.
What yoiu could try is use an app like Icontact or pocketcm.
I beleive you can pick the number were you want to sms to.
have not try'd it my self

i dont have this problem?
if i goto new text, then add contact the contacts list appears, then when i click the contact i have to choose which number i want (mobile, work, mobile2, home ect)
which method are you using to add contacts to the SMS?

rumpleforeskin said:
i dont have this problem?
if i goto new text, then add contact the contacts list appears, then when i click the contact i have to choose which number i want (mobile, work, mobile2, home ect)
which method are you using to add contacts to the SMS?
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The problem is if you go to your contacts, select one and then pick write sms.
you wont get an option.
or when you reply to an sms (al though i do think then when i reply it does sent it to the number you are replying to.
but it is annoying that you cant see which number it was)

When you use the SMS application and you press "To:" it will show your contacts list and when chosing a name you'll be presented with all the numbers you have for that contact wether mobile, home or work so I don't really see the problem.
Garcia

...possible.....
I don't have too many friends walking around with two mobiles consistently on their person so I don't really considerthis an issue
but if I did (like for differnet countries) and I wanted this to work I would make an exact copy of the original Contact amd slightly change the name to represent the second mobile i.e.
Fred1 Smith xxxxxx
Fred2 Smith yyyyyy
....suppose that would work....

Two mobiles in one contact.
You can't do that on the phone although outlook could do it!
Do as I did in the past.
You have two numbers for John Smith?
contact1: JohnSmith1
contact2: JohnSmith2
TWO MOBILES!!
How far out can you fall with the same name?
I actually had each number on different name because I wanted to know straight way who phoned me.
So I had like DaveMob, DaveHm, DaveFax, etc.

able to dial like a blackberry

I woudl like to find an application that woudl allow me to click and dial any number like a Blackberry. That is, from an email, calendar invite, etc.
Same thing then for conference pass codes.
Anyone know of such an app for WIndows Mobile 6.1 devices?
Thanks

You can achieve this most of the time just by pressing call-hardkey if you are somewhere close to a number

I find this rarely works.

There is a setting for recognizing numbers
I want to say it is in the phone options, but I'm not sure. (and dont have my phone with me) but I do remember a checkbox to select for making phone numbers callable (is that a word?) from within sms, emails, etc.

I have looked. I have WinMo 6.1 and there are no options for this.

I wonder if it has to do with formatting?
I looked around and couldn't find the setting either, sorry. I might have been thinking of another device, and I should have checked before posting.
I also have 6.1, and at least in emails and SMS, the phone automatically recognizes telephone numbers and email addresses. tapping on a tel number gives the options of calling, sending a text, or saving to contacts. Tapping an email opens a new message to that address. Having members here from all over the globe made me wonder if country codes outside the US might mess up that functionality. I tried emailing myself some numbers, and when I included country codes, it didn't recoginze the number anymore. I don't know if this helps you or not, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Possibly someone here from outside of the US can tell us if it works for them.

SMS Grouping

I'm looking for a SMS app that allow you to turn off SMS grouping so that all messages appear as seperate entries even if they are from the same person.
The stock app doesn't doesn't do this & I have tried a few from the market place, but none have this option.
Anyone got any ideas?

I dont think any app would do that. Its kinda retarted dont you think? I
swyped from a galaxy far far away...

natious said:
I dont think any app would do that. Its kinda retarted dont you think?
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Normally I would agree but I have a unique situation. I receive about 10 automated service service jobs via SMS a day from one particular company. Unfortunately there system uses a lot of different numbers to send from, so it gets very confusing with some SMS's grouped togeather and others by them self.
I want the old fashion system of just displaying one SMS after another.

KTM690 said:
Normally I would agree but I have a unique situation. I receive about 10 automated service service jobs via SMS a day from one particular company. Unfortunately there system uses a lot of different numbers to send from, so it gets very confusing with some SMS's grouped togeather and others by them self.
I want the old fashion system of just displaying one SMS after another.
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You could give the contact a global name like "YOUR COMPANY HERE" and then add all the numbers to that contact, so in your inbox it all of them should be displayed, and in order of the time you received them.
This would only work if you have a set of numbers, if you are always getting new numbers then i dont know what you could do, ill have a think.

natious said:
You could give the contact a global name like "YOUR COMPANY HERE" and then add all the numbers to that contact, so in your inbox it all of them should be displayed, and in order of the time you received them.
This would only work if you have a set of numbers, if you are always getting new numbers then i dont know what you could do, ill have a think.
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Thanks for the idea but I have tried this. Even if the numbers are under the same contact the SMS's are still listed separately if there not from exactly the same number. Not sure how many numbers this company uses but I suppect it's over 20.

Random question about contacts

Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?

km8j said:
Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?
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without testing, it's either alphabetical or indexed, meaning it will display the first instance of the phone number it comes across. For me, if I don't have a personal line for an individual, i remove that number from their contact info.

I'm not sure what will happen if you have two contacts with the same number in People. I would guess that whichever comes first in the default sort will appear as the caller.
What I do is set up a contact with just the company name, and put the various contacts for that Co. in the notes field. Of course you won't know "who" is calling you from that company, but if they all have the same number, how is Android to know?

km8j said:
Ok - this is not unique to the X, but dont know where else to post it. What do you guys do when you have a lot of people from an office with the same office number in your phone? I.e., I work with John, Sally and Chris who all work at ABC Corp and the phone number is 456-789-1234. When ANYONE from the company calls, that caller ID will come through. For whatever reason, my phone will display Sally (example). I only want it to display the company name. What do you do? If I add a dedicated contact for the company, how will it delineate between them?
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As said above, I can't remember if it's alphabetical or indexed, but I believe it's alphabetical (i.e. if you work with John, Sally and Chris, Chris' name will always show up from that contact). If that's the case, you could create a contact like "A-Acme Corp" since "A" displays higher on the list.
Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared, so I'd rather have the contact really indicate who I'm calling, which is the company, not the person.

binary visions said:
As said above, I can't remember if it's alphabetical or indexed, but I believe it's alphabetical (i.e. if you work with John, Sally and Chris, Chris' name will always show up from that contact). If that's the case, you could create a contact like "A-Acme Corp" since "A" displays higher on the list.
Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared, so I'd rather have the contact really indicate who I'm calling, which is the company, not the person.
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You don't always have control over this, i.e., global address books syncing over Exchange.

km8j said:
You don't always have control over this, i.e., global address books syncing over Exchange.
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most of the companies i've worked for/with have had a phone system with one external, but multiple internal lines. when i sync my contacts with exchange, the internal number is synced, so i am able to dial those individuals directly. however, if they call me, i have no idea who it is.
the only exception i've had to this rule are small businesses where you call and ask if you can talk to "sally" or whatever (or they don't have extensions, or the extensions aren't externally facing, etc). in that case, i don't bother with individualized contacts. i'll have a contact that says, "State Farm (Betty)" or something similar, so I know who to ask for.

binary visions said:
Frankly, though, I don't think it's useful to have multiple people with the same office number, and I just create an office contact and delete the number from the individual contacts. It's not really "their" number if it's shared,
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Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.

Puzzlegal said:
Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.
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This is definitely a valid use case. There has to be a way to set as a default phone number a specific contact, then you would add a generic contact for "home" or "Company XYZ".

Puzzlegal said:
Well, my husband, daughter, soon, and I all share the same home phone number. If I look up any of them, I would like that number to be one of the options visible.
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I understand, I'm not saying my solution is the only way to do it. Just that it's one way to do it.
I have a "Home" contact that has my home phone number and home address. I don't need my girlfriend to have our home phone number listed on her contact, I just know I call "home" when I need to call home.

binary visions said:
I understand, I'm not saying my solution is the only way to do it. Just that it's one way to do it.
I have a "Home" contact that has my home phone number and home address. I don't need my girlfriend to have our home phone number listed on her contact, I just know I call "home" when I need to call home.
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That is certainly a solution. i could set up separate contacts for "home", "husband at work", and "husband's cell phone". But it seems simpler to keep all him contact information in one place. Same for my kids, who also have multiple phone numbers.
A lot of Google services seem to assume that a phone number is only relevant for a single person. I think that's a design flaw, as it's often not true. It's not a big deal in looking up contacts, but google phone numbers are essentially broken, as it won't let two different google phone numbers point to the same home number. (and there are three of us who would like to have the google number ring there at least some of the time.)

Puzzlegal said:
That is certainly a solution. i could set up separate contacts for "home", "husband at work", and "husband's cell phone". But it seems simpler to keep all him contact information in one place. Same for my kids, who also have multiple phone numbers.
A lot of Google services seem to assume that a phone number is only relevant for a single person. I think that's a design flaw, as it's often not true. It's not a big deal in looking up contacts, but google phone numbers are essentially broken, as it won't let two different google phone numbers point to the same home number. (and there are three of us who would like to have the google number ring there at least some of the time.)
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to your point, i'd be interested in seeing how other devices are handling it. i don't think its a design flaw at all. phone numbers have "always" been individualized. your home phone goes to "one" caller ID description (whether you change it with the phone co or not) - it's always going to say "The Smiths" regardless of who is placing the phone call to whom.
if you add "The Smiths" phone number to Mr., Mrs., Sally and Jr., it's still "The Smiths" phone number.
Harry Smith could be calling you on your caller ID, but it's really Jr....
i don't know any way around this, personally, short of the suggestions listed above. There's no solution for what you're asking. What do you want, voice recognition? And I'm sorry if that comes off a little snarky, but I honestly can't think of a way to handle a grouping of contacts that use the same contact information. What it sounds like you're asking is a way to create a "The Smiths" phone book entry, and marking it as "show as incoming call" so you don't jump to conclusions of who is on the other line.

I understand that the "from" address has to be "the Smiths", or some single name. But I am really frustrated that Google Voice can't pipe my calls and my son's calls both to our home phone number, even if it could only show one of them names if we replied from that number. Both of us would like to recieve calls at that number when we are at home.
It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.

Puzzlegal said:
I understand that the "from" address has to be "the Smiths", or some single name. But I am really frustrated that Google Voice can't pipe my calls and my son's calls both to our home phone number, even if it could only show one of them names if we replied from that number. Both of us would like to recieve calls at that number when we are at home.
It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.
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well forwarding multiple numbers to a single number is an entirely different issue than your original post. i've never been in your situation (that i can think of) so i can't relate. although i find it interesting google would care how many numbers were forwarded to a single number.
if you're already using google voice numbers, why not use google voice to place calls on your cells? that way, if Jr. gets a call on his GV #, it will ring his personal cell phone.

Puzzlegal said:
...It might be relevant that my house gets lousy service on every major cell carrier.
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640k said:
well forwarding multiple numbers to a single number is an entirely different issue than your original post. i've never been in your situation (that i can think of) so i can't relate. although i find it interesting google would care how many numbers were forwarded to a single number.
if you're already using google voice numbers, why not use google voice to place calls on your cells? that way, if Jr. gets a call on his GV #, it will ring his personal cell phone.
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Because then we don't get calls when we are at home -- thus the desire to have google voice numbers sometimes forward to the home number.
This is actually WHY I don't use google voice. Because so long as it depends on my being the only user of any number I want it to farward to, it's basically broken for me.
Anyhow, I agree that this is entirely different from the problem that started the thread. I just live with the phone always showing my daughter when I place or recieve a call to my home. That's annoying, but not broken from a usability standpoint. (My preference would be for it to show the same person I looked up when I placed the call for outgoing calls, and my husband for incoming calls, since he calls me more than the others, and obviously, the phone has no way to know who is on the other end.) I just brought up the google voice thing to point out that Google doesn't seem to have put a lot of effort into usability when phone numbers are shared.

if you're using IP phone (using GV to make/receive calls), service has nothing to do with it. Just use your broadband connection.

Copy and Paste in Dialer

Just trying to find a way to paste a code into the dialer ... or better.
I have a special service for international calls. I have to call a number and then I am supposed to punch in the number I actually want to call. Ideally, I'd just like to be able to select the contact number and have the number be entered when I hit the number.
Any ideas??

Press and hold the area above the num pad, release your finger and you'll see the standard paste menu like in every text form

Jannomag said:
Press and hold the area above the num pad, release your finger and you'll see the standard paste menu like in every text form
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I tried that of course, and the paste does not appear.

Like this?
https://imgur.com/Pstfhb3 (sorry for German language, but it should be understandable)
There's also a Telephone button inside the context menu.

Not exactly. When you open the dialler, you can in fact paste. This what you have shown.
But once the call is being made, you can no longer paste. Even when you go back to the keypad.
Let me explain. I have a special dialing service. First I need to call a special number.
Then I need to paste in the actual number I want to call.
I am too new on the forum to link in a video, but I hope the above is clear.

A solution - of sorts
I've just seen your post. I appreciate it's a bit late in the day.
I've had the same problem
I use 18185 to save money on international calls. My previous phone allow me to cut and paste the number I wished to dial while connected so the access service.
It would seem that is not possible to do this on an S10.
I have however found a workaround which achieves the same result.
If you create a new phone book entry adding the access number first of all.*
In my case 02081802828
Then a comma which will give you a 2 second pause
Then the number that you wish to dial
Save this into the phone book and you will then be able to dial the number directly without having to input any phone number on the dialling screen.
02081802828,+330170732020 would be the complete number.
Hit the phone entry button and your good to go. It does take a while to connect so be patient.
Hope this helps

solved, but no longer needed.
Yes, that is what I did. But it was annoying to have to do it for all of my contacts.
I ended having to download all of my contacts and then edit them all with a code editor macro.
It was annoying but it worked, and for about a year my phone bill went down to just about nothing above my basic monthly fee.
Now, I've changed jobs and have a work phone, so I don't have to worry about it
Bigboyy89 said:
I've just seen your post. I appreciate it's a bit late in the day.
I've had the same problem
I use 18185 to save money on international calls. My previous phone allow me to cut and paste the number I wished to dial while connected so the access service.
It would seem that is not possible to do this on an S10.
I have however found a workaround which achieves the same result.
If you create a new phone book entry adding the access number first of all.*
In my case 02081802828
Then a comma which will give you a 2 second pause
Then the number that you wish to dial
Save this into the phone book and you will then be able to dial the number directly without having to input any phone number on the dialling screen.
02081802828,+330170732020 would be the complete number.
Hit the phone entry button and your good to go. It does take a while to connect so be patient.
Hope this helps
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