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help me please with 2.26 official update

before I do this update should I run awizard or lokiwiz to get a backup...
should I do this first just incase....
what about SIM/CID unlock should I do this first or will I still be able to unlock in the future after installing this update?
any help would be kindly apprecieated...
I am about to upgrade but I dont know what I should do...
thanks..
-James

If you want to upgrade but don't know what you should do, then why don't you start reading some threads on this forum?
When you don't know what you're doin' I can only give you the advice to leave it the way it is
It's not that I don't wanna help ya out, but read first before starting to do some experiments. There are enough people that made certain mistakes before you so just check it out

hey thanks...
I have been reading for a month now and everything seems to say differnet things... I have read nearly every thread on this forum just I learn better from hands on and I have not tried anything as of yet...
thanks for you kind help... im not a dumb ass who doesnt know how to read and doesnt know how to use the search feature... but thanks for your kind help..

@c-pimp ... speaking only for myself, I haven't answered your posts on this because it doesn't appear that you HAVE read through all the postings...
Let me lay it out for you and you take it for what it's worth.
First, if you're willing to take the chance that you MIGHT brick your device then that's YOUR decision. What works for one typically works for another but ... YMMV. No one here is going to accept the responsibility for your device. Most folks here suggest that you stay with your provider's upgrades. If you have such concerns then I don't think you're ready, my opinion.
Second, if you plan on doing anything other than an official sanctioned upgrade then you must CID and SIM unlock, period. This, if done correctly, is forever.
Third, what do you have on your phone that you need to backup? I've heard people speak here of taking 6 hours to rebuild their device after an upgrade and I've never understood exactly how it could take so long. Folks here have compiled very nice cabs with most of all of the registry tweaks one could need. I personally have a folder on my SC that contains all my necessary cabs, security certificates, etc. I'm down to an hour or so to completely rebuild a freshly flashed Wizard. The original ROM's are available so there's no reason to back that up. And if you are doing a major upgrade when you flash the restore will probably break your device as many registry settings, etc are different.
Anything else I can help you with, just ask!
And please don't take offense at me as I mean no harm and am not flaming you nor speaking out of spite.

That's what I meant as well, because you said "I'm about to upgrade, but don't know what to do?" I think that there are many people here telling you to leave it alone
It wasn't my intention to flame, not at all!
Like said before backups are very personal things. Some people want to backup their complete ROM while others just want a backup of the settings from their previous ROM. I one of the people that uses the last method. But I NEVER restore a backup from an old ROM onto a new one. That's because there might be some changes in the registry of the new ROM.
Second, I unlocked my SIM\CID almost the moment it was possible on this forum. Like said before, that's a one time operation
I run the latest t-mobile 2.26 ROM and didn't have to edit NBF files or anything like that. Just install and enjoy.
Once again, it was not my intention to flame. I think it's a bad thing when people say "I wan't to do this, but I haven't got a clue how to do it" to tell them just to flash their device or something like that. Because when it fails you would answer: "I bricked my device, thanks for your kind help!"

been playing with my phone so much I have forgot to respond to alot of questions I asked.... lol... sorry bout that... I wasnt tryin to be a **** when I responded either... I did read alot on the forums but then I would get stuck up on a random post and be confused if I should do something different...
like I said hands on is really the best way for me to learn and now im totally trying new stuff on my phone every day... so sorry if I sounded like a **** when I responded ( I admit I was a little frustrated with my day that day)
-James

@c-pimp - Glad you're on the path to enlightment
(and WE didn't think you were a ****!!!)
Best of luck!

The ROM issued by T-Mobile [2.26] DOES NOT require unlocking your phone.
Can you imagine all the people who own an MDA who have never been to this or any other "tweak" forum installing the ROM and not knowing about unlocking and then it bricked there phone? T-Mo customer service wouldn't be able to handle any other calls but theres.
So back up that puppy and get to upgrading...
One thing I noticed... I downgraded the radio ROM to 1.12 from the one supplied with the 2.26 ROM. So much better!!!

SPV M700 Flash with latest HTC Rom with GPS.. Help!

I'm sure it's been covered in a thread but I'm not able to find it so would appreciate someone explaining the following......
Is it possible to flash my bog standard M700 with the latest HTC ROM from their website?
I've been given a copy but I couldn't download it because of the Orange IMEI number would not resolve. Presumably there are no issues due to this and it will work just fine?
Lastly, has anyone written a step by step idiot guide to doing this? If not could someone please reply and tell me? I'm not all that techy with ROMs but can am OK with PCs and registry stuff etc.
Many thanks in advance!!

You're right it has been covered ;-), HOWEVER.....
NO you cannt use the HTC version on the Orange M700, it's just for the HTC branded phones. SO now relax and get a cooked version... Either MUN-RUS OR LVSW's are good. I personally have the LVSW version......
Look for it in the Trinity WM6 forum.
In the first post is ALL the software you need, grab all 3 bits of software, apply them in order as listed in the instructions. And thats it, shiney new WM6 M700.... however remeber after you do this to remake all the MMS settings etc etc otherwise Photo Messaging etc etc wont work BUT on Oranges' web site there is a "me Proof" guide to putting it right ;-)
Thats it, go get'em fella

Thanks, Just out of interest, why won't the HTC ROM work, after all it's still an HTC device!

Being lazy... do you have the link to the post please?

So you found this site, BUT cannt within this site find the Trinity Mobile 6 Forum or read the very first 2 posts in there?
Get a grip ;-)
As for the HTC thing... guess it's to stop people taking thier software off them and using it elsewhere, and all the troubles that entails with licsencing etc, ALSO dont forget Orange "Value Add" to the phone (brand the day lights out of it ;-) )

Yes found the link!! Just didn't think it was that obvious so wasn't looking at the top! Dohh!
What's Value Add?
Can anyone point me toward instructions on how to extract or backup my exiting Orange M700 ROM in can the upgrade goes pear shapped?
Still a little confused as to why the HTC ROM will not work. Can someone explain properly please?

It is all explained on the forums if, as deech says you "get a grip"
Do a search.
The reason upgrading will not work is mentioned in this the upgrade forum if you look. If you can't even look for it I'm not sure you'll understand the information though as it would involve thinking.
The way to backup a rom is also mentioned in this forum. In fact if you could be bothered to search you could quite easily find one that's already been made by one of the members of this forum in this forum section. It's even on this first page of this upgrade forum.
I don't quite agree with Deech though. I say you should get off your lazy arse and actually look for the information you want rather than just expecting everyone to point out information that's right in front of your eyes if you just look.
Sorry to flame but it drives me nuts that people can be so lazy and expect everyone else to find the information for them.

Value Add..... all those shiney little things that Orange and Vodafone etc add to the basic software, Like the WAP portal, Today Pages, etc etc, a straight HTC ROM (or Nokia, or Motorloa) ROM is very plain and boring, but often works sooo much better than that provided by the Mobile Company after they have "tinkered" with it, hence Value Added.
I agree though you shouldnt be re-flashing your phone if you cannt work the search button and read and FULLY understand what the hell is happening, and how to make things right IF they go wrong ;-)

If you know ehere something is it take 10 seconds to actually be helpful and tell someone whos asks in a polite manner!!
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!

Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?

Here's what you do. Download the official HTC ROM and try flashing your phone with it, then you might actually believe us when we tell you that you can't flash your phone with it. The official reason that you can't use it on your phone is because your phone isn't actually an HTC phone, it's an Orange SPV M700. Or so they'll have you believe.
I understand the difference between a half" Whitty and a half" UNC. One's a Whitty and one's a UNC, easy
Read the forums, then ask questions.
Peace,
BS...

MIZZO1628 said:
Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
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Hi m8, Looks like you're in need of a little friendly advice, so here goes!
Despite what they're all telling you in this thread, you *CAN* quite easily flash the latest HTC Trinity ROM to your M700... You will first need to unlock your phone OR use the SoftSPL method described in this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
Unfortunately, you will need to educate yourself a little to achieve what you desire and this means READ and UNDESTAND the above thread before you attempt anything!
All the ROM's you could ever wish for are available through this site, here :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_Upgrades
To be even more helpful, the HTC ROM you require is here :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/2296300...1_1_.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_GPS.exe
(Looking at one of your other help question threads, it looks like you don't know how to download from Rapidshare, you need to go to the bottom of the above linked page and click the "FREE" button, then choose your download site from the page that follows... enter the security key as shown and dah dah.... a download!)
If you need any further help then PM me, rather than filling up this thread any further!
I hope this helps!
Moz.

MIZZO1628 said:
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
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Happy to help, but you ask a question I answered it.
As for showing off about Whit / UNC threads..... dont judge books by thier covers, in real life I am a Marine Engineer serving on some of the largest container ships ever built in a very senior position
Now please please take the time to learn about your phone, read all the fora here, and sort out what it is you want to do. And happy flashing once you pop you cannt stop

LOL. is all I can say. You haven't got a hope in hell.
You CAN'T flash the HTC to an M700 because it's locked to Orange. (Similar to a sim lock... Need that explained? Or can you search now??)
Unlock it and you're laughing. (As Mozzer says)
When I posted last, less than 5 posts below yours asking about backing up the rom was the post containing the last link Mozzer has given you, as I said it was even on the first page of threads, not far to look. A forum search for M700 would have shown it immediately.
Backing up the ROM is much harder than flashing it so would have been out of the question for you.
As for UNC and Whitworth. All I can say is congratulations. You, like pretty much all of us (if not all of us) here, also have knowledge in other fields.
I won't bother trying to make myself look big by quizzing you.
I have to admit I have very little knowledge of these devices and am forever endebted to the members of this forum for the information that is shared here and the work put in by many. The difference between you and me is I don't demand it on a plate.
I can use the search engine and look at Stickies. They're stickied for a reason! That reason is either to warn you of forum regulations OR because they are important.
It's not that hard to look in the Trinity subforum and at the first topic which is a link to the Trinity Wiki. (U know what a wiki is? Or is that not of interest as it's not UNC?)
In the Trinity Upgrading sub forum:
5 posts below this (probably seven when I submit this) is a thread entitled:
Moz's RUU_Trinity_Orange_UK_1.23.61.5_1.38.00.11_GSM_NoI PL_NoSPL.exe
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Wonder what that is..... I admit it's a tad convoluted. But you know you have a trinity which is badged by orange.
Third sticky down is entitled:
SSPL (or flashing any ROM 4 free)
Can't think what that's about. I want to flash my M700 with HTC branded.. Could this help? Naah I'll just save time and get everyone to do it for me.
In the Trinity Mobile 6 forum:
First 2 Stickies.. Wonder what they do. Won't bother looking.
Can anyone tell me how to wipe my arse. I've lost the ability to see and use my hands.
In my last post if you look I gave you some clues as to where you could find what you wanted. I'm on alot of forums and people who can't be arsed to have a look for themselves piss me off. If you'd looked and said I've found this that and the other but I'm not sure about it could someone help explain please I'd have done what I could to explain. But you couldn't even do that!

Many Thanks MOZZER!
At least there is someone here who has taken the time to be helpful.

So Deech... what is the difference i between half inch Whit and UNC?

Hi Mozzerr!
As you were kind enough to help with sensible answers could you please advise on the following:
I feel that the Orange ROM on the M700 seems a bit shaky and the GPS take forever to make a cold start... just a gut feeling it's probably the ROM hence the view to flash it.
In your opinion are there any major advantager to WM6 over the HTC release. I don't use 3G stuff or other advance comms mail etc. just the Phone, Active synce stuff, MP3s, Camera and TomTom via the GPS?
What would you do?

Ah now a sensible question.
WM6 is considerably faster than WM5 when it comes to loading menus and programs (and as far as I've found is completely stable).
There currently appear to be a few people who have a battery drain issue, which I for one have not had and should be ironed out soon.
If you use tomtom there is a cab somewhere (I forget where) in the Windows Mobile 6 forum called ATIfix.cab which fixes the freeze issue (if you get it).
If you're going to go to WM6, which I personally would recommend, you can always flash back to the HTC flash if you don't like it.
TBH other than speed for what you've listed as items you use it'd be more about the look and feel of it, so try both and go with what you're happier with.
I hope that helps.

Just remember you loose all the Orange Branding when you flash, so "IF" you find any of it remotely useful it will disappear, including settings for MMS etc.
The Tom Tom Freeze thing seems pretty common, mine idi it big time, but everything else is nicer, faster and smoother.
WM6 is..... nice and well worth it

There is a cab on the forums with all the MMS setting on this forum. I think I linked relinked it somewhere in the Mobile 6 forum, plus some people have extracted several of the orange programs and posted them.

"first things first" for newbies sticky, thread, etc.?

So my Tilt is practically brand new, & I have used it like three times so far. The only things I've done is order (most) of the accessories that I'll (at least initially) need for it. But as far as how it runs or operates, it's bone stock & brand new.
What should I do to it first?
What r.o.m. / firmware should I run?
What should I remove & what should I add?
Is there any sort of a "first things first" for newbies sticky, thread, etc.?
Would it help if I told you guys what I want it to do & how I want it run?
Or is this generic enough in nature so that's not necessary?
Thanks in advance for all your help, guys.

first thing would be the wiki..

always install Hard SPL
(It's like a condom for your phone!)

Bookmarked.
gladwin said:
first thing would be the wiki..
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Both the Kaiser forum and the Tilt-specific wiki are now bookmarked.

There is a also a newbie guide thread

Link, please.
persiansown said:
There is a also a newbie guide thread
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Link, please.

awdbeast said:
So my Tilt is practically brand new, & I have used it like three times so far.
What r.o.m. / firmware should I run?
Would it help if I told you guys what I want it to do & how I want it run?
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Why do so many first time posters ask what ROM to run? It strikes me as kinda like buying a new GM car, driving it out of the showroom, straight round to the service dept and asking them if the engine is good enough, or should you rip it out and chuck a Ford engine in.
Knowing what you need it to do/ run is helpful as I doubt my needs are the same as your, so any advice I, or anyone else gives, on mods, tweeks etc won't necesarily meet your needs. To give you an idea, my last phone was the HTC Universal, I changed from a WM5 to a WM6 ROM. I lost video call, and the device wasn't as stable, but I had to do that in order to get the device to do one particular thing (pair with my bluetooth carkit using RSAP). If it wasn't for this, I would have left the stock ROM in the thing.
You say you've used it 3 times so far. Personally, I would use it a while longer, see if there is anything you don't like then have a look around the forums to see if there is a fix. Whilst your doing that, have a look around the forums anyway to see if there is anything you like the look of. One of the mods I made to my Kaiser was installing the upgraded camera CAB. I hardly use the camera and this was a kind of 'just for the hell of it' mod. The rest of my Kaiser is stock, same ROM, same Radio as it was supplied with, its fine just the way it was designed. Give it a month of use, list what your not happy with, then see if there is something that will shorten that list.

I totally agree with Steve-C.
This is what you need to do, and in the order that you need to do it:
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the manual
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the wiki
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the forums
Play with your device to get to know it.
After you have completed these steps, you will know the answer to everything you asked... and if not, then post specific questions.

new owner some questions please.

Got tilt last week.
Kinda scared to unlock with software. paid $10 for unlocking service on ebay. very fast.
I would like to flash the rom with a faster performing one but my main question is do I need jumspl or hardspl if it's unlocked?
Also when exactly do I install the radio?
is the order like this?
jumpspl, hardspl, radio, rom?
I did read the tons of pages, but no offense to anyone but it's not written in a user friendly kinda way. again, no offence.
What's the faster performing roms out there?
I'm also having problems wih my activesync. I got a red exclamation mark on the system tray. I have 3 unresolved items in the window. tried to fix them which are some favorites but need to install outlook. I can't sync anything else besides pics and videos as well. I do have outlook express working so what the heck does it want me to do?
any help appreciated.

You did not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Oh yeah, and I cannot find a quote but its goes like this:
And dont ever try to ask, which one is the best/fastest ROMs.

saw that one and read, twice.. still doesn't answer questions. After phone is unlocked do I need jumpspl and hardspl? it talks about cid unlock, which i'm assuming i don't need since I unlocked? which still, it isn't written well. I have to say people , especially the seniors have little patience for giving new people guidance. The guide is not written well, and doesn;t answer any question I just asked except the rom question which I still don't why do people get so impulsive about that. It's not a nice way to treat new people IMO.
as well if you ask newbies, I will tell you the information is too spread out and quite unorganized. check this page tell me if you don't htink someone did this after smoking something:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
with 40000 links is a newbie supposed to understand with all those links.? I don't think so. I did see the link which shows the whole process and again, doesn't answer the specific questions.

amitsivak said:
saw that one and read, twice.. still doesn't answer questions. After phone is unlocked do I need jumpspl and hardspl? it talks about cid unlock, which i'm assuming i don't need since I unlocked? which still, it isn't written well. I have to say people , especially the seniors have little patience for giving new people guidance. The guide is not written well, and doesn;t answer any question I just asked except the rom question which I still don't why do people get so impulsive about that. It's not a nice way to treat new people IMO.
as well if you ask newbies, I will tell you the information is too spread out and quite unorganized. check this page tell me if you don't htink someone did this after smoking something:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
with 40000 links is a newbie supposed to understand with all those links.? I don't think so. I did see the link which shows the whole process and again, doesn't answer the specific questions.
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Just for be safe - flash HardSPL.
You can always revert back to original one. Answer how to do it is somewhere in the Kaiser Wiki.

Reset question

although i am at risk of getting flamed for asking i am am scared ****less i'll read the wrong guide and duck up my phone.....i can't afford another one
i want to get rid of the vodafone software and the glitches the phone has. i want to completely reset my phone.
i need to know:
- which apps i need
- how to blank everything
- the os version i need which functions best on this hardware set up. (the tytnii)
hope someone is patient enough to help me out. my phone keeps doing odd stuff and it gets on my nerves

Read this entire thread. You can't fail if you read it all.

definitely check out that thread, and read the How to Flash your First ROM by Dave Shaw I think it is.
I would recommend grabbing the latest HTC stock 6.1 ROM (check the wiki for the links) and then go from there, trying custom ROMs as you see fit.

cheers all
thanks to all who replied.
i am gonna have a go tonight
take it easy all

so i had a go...
i flashed my first ROM. (and there was much rejoicing)
i read a little further down the page about a hard spl
what is one of these??
i want to get rid of the vodafone software. i want to brick my phone and start again. i suceeded in flashing my phone butit looks exactly the same.....and still does the same stupid stuff
i still dont wanna do the wrong hing with this so am hoping someone will be patient enough to tell me exactly which bit i need
yours patiently
scared ****less

ihtetytnii said:
i flashed my first ROM. (and there was much rejoicing)
i read a little further down the page about a hard spl
what is one of these??
i want to get rid of the vodafone software. i want to brick my phone and start again.
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As always the FAQs and stickies are your friend.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL%20Questions%3F
Oh and I really hope you don't actually WANT to brick your phone.

Just because you unlocked and hard spl'd your phone, nothing is going to change if you flash the same old Voda rom back on to it. What rom did you flash ?

shrugs
the one in the recommended guide
all i want to do is get rid of the vodafone crap and start again
to be hones, i don't really understand much of th terminology or exactly what i'm doing. just following instructions. i'm ust a little nervous (and lazy) some of the guides (while great and accurate from what i have tried) assume a lot of knowledge and when i have to start learning stuff like this it confuses me and i tend to not achieve what i wanted.
my phone has developed some odd and irritating behaviour not to mention being slow as hell sometimes
i would quite happily swap this phone for something without a slide keyboard if there is a bit of the board where ican do that

Well......again, what rom and spl do you have currently on the phone ?

A good thing to do for someone scared ****less .. sit back, don't touch the phone, and go through reading the FAQ as posted by others. Especially flashing for noobs by mskip.
Then look up on the Kaiser Wiki on this XDA site (google Kaiser Wiki). Read through and understand what Hard SPL is, what it means to unlock your phone, and why it's important.
Combine those knowledge, you're ready to flash. Otherwise, go and pay a visit to nearest shop that offers flashing service. Pay them, and if it doesn't work, sue them. Here at XDA we can help, but you need to pickup something before we can do much help.

i have windows mobile 6.1 on here at the moment.

i'm running windows mobile version 6.1