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XDA2i and handheld Satnav.

Hi
I want to use my XDA2i as a handheld Satnav device. The obvious GPS receiver to buy would be the GlobalSat SD-502 SDIO GPS Receiver. However there seems to be issues around using them together.
What are the issues and can they be overcome?
Another option is to use a CF GPS Receiver connected by a backpack (which I have) The only trouble being that the CF slot comes out of the bottom of the device.
What is it that the SD-502 doen't like about the XDA2i. I assume it is something to do with the phone??? Is it possible to disable the phone ( I don't use the phaone as I have an XDA mini S
Help....
Simon

Why not BT?
I wouldn't bother with a plug-in GPS unit. They increase the battery drain and the XDA2i doesn't have a great battery life to start with.
I use a BT GPS unit (TomTom GPSII) and it works very well. I also use it with other devices (an AXIM X51v and Nokia 6620).
BT GPS units are small, battery life is very good - I get 8 hours out of the TTGPSII.
Regarding the phone- that 's another issue. You need to disable 'flight mode' to enable BT. This turns the 'phone on - but if you don't have a SIM in nothing much happens. To disable the 'phone - turn on 'flight mode'
Phil

I've used Tom Tom 5 v5.21 and a BT338 Bluetooth GPS unit just fine

HANDHELD Satnav
Thanks for both your replies
However both the products you talk about are really designed to sit on the dash of your car. The reason I want to use the SD-502 is that it makes the PDA into a standalone Satnav device. I want to use this out of the car, whilst walking, biking etc.
It seems mad that I could use the SD-502 with a PDA running the same OS as the XDA2i but can't because of the phone part of the XDA2i. (I don't use the XDA2i as a phone as I have a XDA mini S) I can't believe that simply disabling the phone (flight mode) would work. But would it be possible to reload the OS without the phone part.
Anyone have experience of this??
Simon

HANDHELD Satnav
Thanks for both your replies
However both the products you talk about are really designed to sit on the dash of your car. The reason I want to use the SD-502 is that it makes the PDA into a standalone Satnav device. I want to use this out of the car, whilst walking, biking etc.
It seems mad that I could use the SD-502 with a PDA running the same OS as the XDA2i but can't because of the phone part of the XDA2i. (I don't use the XDA2i as a phone as I have a XDA mini S) I can't believe that simply disabling the phone (flight mode) would work. But would it be possible to reload the OS without the phone part.
Anyone have experience of this??
Simon

Hi,
As far as I am aware it is not possible to get rid of the phone stuff off the phone, but I may be mistaken, however what several of my colleagues do who want to use a hand held sat nav like you describe is get a bluetooth GPS receiver with the SirfIII chipset and either wear it around their neck using the cord they get with their work ID or just stick it in their pocket and forget about it.
One of them is off this weekend on a camping and hiking trip and plans to use his XDA IIi and Holux BT231 to find his way around. I can't remember the exact Sat Nav software he is using though.
G

Thanks gquipster
"get a bluetooth GPS receiver with the SirfIII chipset and either wear it around their neck using the cord they get with their work ID or just stick it in their pocket and forget about it"
I thought that the receiver needed direct sight of satelites to work, hang round the neck or stuck in a pocket is idea. Phil talks about getting 8 hours battery life out of his TTGPS11.
Thanks for your help

Re: HANDHELD Satnav
SimonJB said:
Thanks for both your replies
However both the products you talk about are really designed to sit on the dash of your car. The reason I want to use the SD-502 is that it makes the PDA into a standalone Satnav device. I want to use this out of the car, whilst walking, biking etc.
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I also use OziExplorer and Pocket Anquet on my XDA2i. Still use the BT GPS for the same reasons as stated previously - improved battery life of the PDA (it needs all the help it can). I wear my TomTomII BT GPS around my neck on a lanyard - it works very well. Watch it on a bike - if you fall you could ruin your XDA :wink:
Phil

I have a QStarz 32-channel Bluetooth receiver, it's pretty small and easily fits in my pocket. Its model number is BT-Q880, and it lasts for ages on a single charge.
There's a registry hack you can perform to stop the error dialog coming up if you attempt to turn the Bluetooth on with the phone in Flight Mode, I tried it out and it seemed to work out, it let me run the Bluetooth without the phone part of the PDA turned on, so that could be useful if you're after usage as just a SatNav-enabled PDA.
Have you considered that running the phone in regular mode would allow you to make emergency 999 calls, though? That could be useful if you're out on your own hiking or geocaching or whatever, if you got into a pickle whilst out you wouldn't have to mess about with the registry to turn the phone back on, you could just hit the green key and dial the number, job done.

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This has been previously discussed.

First post - THB Bury problem

Hi,
This is my first post so please be easy on me
I am an ICT Engineer and I am having problems with one of my customers HTC Kaiser (re-badged as Orange TyTN II).
He has an THB Bury cradle. The Kaiser has TomTom installed (Orginal disc version 6 navigator), but when the phone is docked in the cradle it goes to Cra Kit profilr and he gets no sound from TomTom.
I have changed the profile, but still no sound from TomTom. I have checked the cradle it it works fine apart no sound for sat nav.
I have searched for hours on loads of forums to find a fix for this i.e. new ROM from Orange or patch from THB, but can't find anything.
Has anyone else had this problem and is there a fix i.e. registry alternation.

Is there anything within the TomTom settings for this.
It might be that this is the way it will work, afterall you do not want the TomTom coming out over the audio of the telephone call.

Thanks for the reply.
We used to use the Orange SPV M2000 (HTC BlueAngel) with TomTom using the same hands free kit (different cradle obviously) and never had a problem. The sat nav audio would work as normal, but when a call came in the sat nav would cut out until the call had finished.
I have have been through the TomTom settings (very limited) and cannot see anyway of changing the audio on it.
It seems more like a HTC Kaiser problem rather than TomTom or the cradle, because it worked fine with a BlueAngle.

Just found this on a THB Bury re-sellers site: -
"Please note: When the Phone is put into the cradle, the Phone will immediately go into car kit profile, which means the external speaker will be disabled [loss of sound for the Sat Nav directions]"
Is the registry hack to stop this happening?

Have you tried using the tomtom and checking there is audio working ok without putting it in the cradle?

Yep. TomTom works absolutly fine out of the cradle. I have even bought a new cradle to check if the original cradle was defect, but still no sound.
To summarise: -
TomTom audio working fine out of THB Bury HFK
TomTom stops working when in THB Bury HFK (enters Car Kit Profle)

Could you not move the handsfree cradle to maybe a vent mount solution so that when you are in the car you can view the TomTom directions instead of hearing them?
Personally I would find yor situation ideal as I hate SatNav voice commands and prefer to navigate from the map.

I got a response from THB Bury about this problem:
"Dear Alistair, many thanks for your enquiry regarding our Bury product range.
The Navigationcommand didn´t run over the carkit, because the Navigationsoftware got no software for muting.
Best regards
Dean Taylor
--Bury-Infoline-- "
Not really what I needed so.....
Does anyone know either how to doctor the USB connector so that it doesn't cause the phone to switch to 'car mode' OR a registry/software fix which stops the TnTY/Stellar from muting its internal speaker when in 'Car' mode?
Failing that I need a new car kit which, holds the phone, charges it, provides hands free phone service, allows TT6 audio instructions through and doesn't blow the USB port. Just like the THB Bury 'Universal' kit should do.
Any recommendations? Alistair

Tomtom with headphones

Hi guys
have anyone had any problems using tomtom with a the tytn2 headset.
I cycle alot and i thought it would be good to to use this sometimes.
It won't play instructions through the headset..
Thanks

now its funny you should say that.... you can use free software from www.teksoft.com called A2DPToggle to switch the sound. I also cycle alot and have tomtom but it seems to drop some speech using the headphones, same with bluetooth. it will say something like 'after' long pause here, 'turn left' it misses out the distance I use the tomtom alot in my car and have no probs. let me know how you get on

bammyman said:
Hi guys
have anyone had any problems using tomtom with a the tytn2 headset.
I cycle alot and i thought it would be good to to use this sometimes.
It won't play instructions through the headset..
Thanks
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TT6 once appeared in my BT headset. It was great for a while then I got a phone call and the whole lot locked up.
After a soft reset all was back to normal. I've never been able to get TT to do it again* but it is theoretically possible.
*never tried, tbh.

If you are talking about a BT headset it works fine.
Provided you do the following: You must turn on BT & establish a connection first. Then launch TT6 & roll the toggle up.
As long as your BT connection is established BEFORE launching TomTom, all is good.

Should work fine - what type of headset are you using?
bammyman said:
have anyone had any problems using tomtom with a the tytn2 headset.
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None whatsoever. I use this arrangement when listening to music on Pocket Media Player and walking unfamiliar routes. It tells me where to go without fail
I cycle alot and i thought it would be good to to use this sometimes.
It won't play instructions through the headset..
Thanks
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It certainly should play instructions through the TyTN IIs supplied (wired) headset but if you're motoring or cycling I'd advise against using a headset but just rely on the TyTN IIs built in speaker and turn the volume to full if reqd. That way you'll still be aware of noises, and consequently possible hazards, around you. I often use my TyTN II this way when cycling and I have a handlebar mount for the device. When cycling I sometimes get the problem gazzacbr reports. I've advised Tomtom about it and they 'working on the issue'. Having tested 6.03 and experienced the same problem on one occasion in a week (along with lots of new problems), I've gone back to 6.032.

GSLEON3 said:
roll the toggle up
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Eh ?
Can you elaborate on what you mean by that phrase please ?

By default the volume ff in newer TT6 software. I mean use the roller toggle to activate the volume while in TT.

Silence through bluetooth car kit on MDA Vario III

Hi,
Just got a MDA Vario III and paired it with my built in bluetooth car kit in a Citroen. Pairs with no problems. My problem is when I receive/make phone calls. As soon as I answer, the built in car bluetooth system says "Silence". I can only hear the call once I click on the phone "turn hands free off" then click "turn hands free on". So for whatever reason it doesn't appear to pick up the hands free as a default. I have tried other bluetooth phones in the car with no problems. Rang t-mobile, then HTC, neither could help. HTC told me they only recommend certain bluetooth car kits which wasn't helpful.
Anybody else experienced similar probs. If so how did you fix it. Or is there a way to make one of the buttons on the phone toggle hands free on/off as this would be easier than trying to tap the touchscreen whilst driving.
For your info have hard reset the phone, also tried some hotfix found on the web for bluetooth probs on this model. No joy either time.
Thanks for any help.
srj321

Bluetooth Car Kit Problems

I have experienced few irritating problems with my Diamond when used in my Seat Leon 2008's stock head unit via bluetooth:
1. Phonebook is displayed always and I can call phones from there which is OK, however "Incoming Calls", "Outgoing Calls" and "Missed Calls" are not working always: sometimes I have those lists filled with the corresponding entries, sometimes all three lists are empty.
2. When I am running iGO8, the bluetooth connection gets connected and disconnected each 5 minutes or so.
3. The headset volume is really low. I didn't have that problem with my Sony Ericsson phones before.
Does anyone have any of those problems and know a solution for them?

Only thing i can say. Stock seat bluetooth is terrible. My brother has orderd a new seat and the dealer advised to choose for the pioneer mounted radio because of the known problems with the seat unit and the bluetooth functions of it.

try posting in the Accesories section, u might get more help.

marco899 said:
Only thing i can say. Stock seat bluetooth is terrible. My brother has orderd a new seat and the dealer advised to choose for the pioneer mounted radio because of the known problems with the seat unit and the bluetooth functions of it.
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Pioneer isn't that good either, I had the Pioneer radio with Bluetooth and I couldn't get it running with my previous phone Trinity P3600 and with my Diamond it didn't work either.
Willem

I have used the stock head unit previously with simple mobile phones and it has always worked perfectly and I was very happy with the bluetooth implementation in Seat. So, I think the problem is not in the head unit (i.e. an accessory problem) but lies somewhere in the "phonebook through bluetooth" implementation in the Diamond.

Hello,
I have the same problem. I have a Skoda Octavia II (2007) with built-in bluetooth and a Diamond (ROM 2.03).
I use the iGO8, and it works fine, but the bluetooth connects and disconnects randomly in all ~5 minutes. When I shut down the iGO8 or when it runs on the background, the bluetooth works perfectly, when it runs in the foreground, the bluetooth disconnects again...
Who knows wat is this problem? Should I try a new ROM? A new radio version? A new iGO version?
CyberGene: Have you a solution for this problem? Or you use a different iGO8 or a different navi software?
Thanks,
DuckHead_

Unfortunately I didn't find any solution to the problem. To be honest, I am currently using a SonyEricsson phone and the Diamond is used by my girlfriend. We are still using iGo from within the Diamond but with no Bluetooth activated.

Thank you for the quick answer.

Why don't you just take your car into a car audio place and get them to check it out for you

I thought it so that the problem with Diamond. The BT does not work only if running the iGO...