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Hi,
A simple question but I couldn't find it categorically written down anywhere: What is the largest SD card that can be used in an XDAIIi?
Thanks a lot,
James.
Im not sure i know of any limit, but its worth noting that only a Transcend 80x SD card works properly and as far as i know they go up to 1gig.
Any other card (non 80x) causes problems with the XDA IIi and causes it to hang.
Thanks for the info. I've been using San Disk 256Mb cards for a while which seem to work fine (although one did get confused once and thought it contained stuff when it didn't so had to be reflashed).
I'll stick to Transcend when buying a new bigger one.
Thanks,
James.
Danny-B- said:
Im not sure i know of any limit, but its worth noting that only a Transcend 80x SD card works properly and as far as i know they go up to 1gig.
Any other card (non 80x) causes problems with the XDA IIi and causes it to hang.
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That is not universally true. I have been using a SanDisk 1.0 GB Ultra II SD card in my XDA IIi for a number of months with no problems whatsoever.
Yeah, in fact i'd go sa far as to say it's not true, I'm using an Integral 60x 1Gb card and have not had any problems whatsoever.
The only problem I have found is that with 1gb cards the XDA2i seems to have a problem when accessing the card and accepting incoming communication at the same time e.g, reading the memory card whilst accepting a call or accessing GPRS. The phone seems to cut power/access to the memory card (disconnects it)and therefore makes the phone hang/freeze. This does not seem to be an issue with 512mb or lower sized cards only 1gb and above. I have tried many different brands and this seems to hold true. For SATNAV applications people advise 512mb cards or lower work best. Again this I have found to be with card accessing issues and 1gb+ cards seem to lose connection, admittedly some cut off slightly faster than others. I use a gb card for most of my apps, but if running TomTom I swap in a 256mb.
ok perhaps i shouldnt have said ONLY transcend cards but i was just trying to highlight that i know that they work fine in the XDAIIi.
Yes there are going to be more brands that work fine too, as far as i know its a voltage issue, anyway im not a htc technician so thats as far as my knowledge goes
I'm using a SanDisk Ultra II 2.0GB card with no problem at all in my Qtek 2020i with O2 rom
I have been doing some reserch into SD Cards because of this problem.
It seems to do with the layers in the card. If the card is of good quality and is a single layer they seem to work OK, if it is dual layer you could have problems.
It has everything to do with current to the card and little to do with card speed.
Single layer cards of high storage capacity are more expensive to produce, because of this even the big brands use dual layer cards.
Interesting stuff about the layers. Thanks for the info.
Has anyone tried the San Disk Ultra II Plus which is the one that can be folded so it can be plugged directly into a USB port too? They look really useful (although are hard to find at the moment at a decent price) as it means you have both USB flash memory and SD combined which I'd find useful when travelling.
Re: Single layer cards
Does anyone know the brands other than Trancsend who use the Single layer card build?
Thx
i'm using a 2GO Maxell SDcard X150 and it works fine.
no pb at all
http://www.maxell.fr/Maxedhd/Sd%20Card/SDcard%202%20go%20(300%20dpi).jpg
I have 150x A-Data 2Gb. All is ok too...
I have a no-name 2 Gig crd and no issues (£84 from Novatech). Actually, 1 issue, bloody XDA locks up when removed from cradle more often than not & needs a soft reset. Other than that, zero probs...
Hi,
Could everyone post their experiences of using different SD cards, please include any problems experienced and anythingelse that might be useful for a buyer, e.g. what you use the card for, as certain cards work fine but cause problems with some applications e.g. Tom Tom 5 and the fone dialer. Also please include the make, model, price, the where you bought the card and what you use the card for.
The reason for this topic is that, I read in the forums people have had problems with different cards and applications. All this information is spread across the forum. It would be really handy for a buyer (like me) to have a thread like this...
Many Thanks!
At the moment I use an "ADTEC" 256mb card, it works fine with TT3 and does not seem to crash my xda2i, But it is a couple of years old and i am about to get a 512mb card, So it will be interesting for me to see how this thread develops.
Transcend 80x 512MB.
Works perfectly with everything including TomTom.
yeah transend 80x ,but i do think any 80x will work ,but 1 person found the transend 80x worked so i think we all bought them as we were just glad we finally found a working sd card ,well i know i was
but it would be interesting to see what other can be used succesfully
I recently bought an Ebuyer own brand 1GB SD card for £32
When it arrived it was actually a Kingston branded card!
I'm not the only person this has happened to...check out the reviews on Ebuyer.
Anyway, I've only had it for about a week but I've had no problems with it so far.
Not really used it exstensively but I've currently got about 300MB worth of music on it.
Good price, Good product I think.
Cheers
Wayne
I have a Corsair 1GB 40x card. I haven't used it much, and I know virtually nothing about these things... But it works. ~£40 from dabs.com.
i dont have money to buy a new SD Card, so I take my brother camera SD Card. mine one just 256mb and the brand is NCP.
work fine for me.....lagging for 2 seconds when incoming call...after that its ok.....but i dont recommended to others!
Have A-Data 150x SD 2Gb card. Works fine. No delays or such, even on moves, even on incoming calls.
Transcend 80x 1GB........... No problem whatsoever... even when running TomTom Navigator 5
Take back what I previously said. I can't access the card on my PDA now - it simply doesn't show up
Not sure if it's the PDA or the card because I've only just realised and I don't have a card reader at work...will have to try when I get home and update then.
Cheers
Wayne
I'm sending the card back under warranty.
Also, it wasn't a Kingston...it was Viking branded card (not sure where I got the Kingston from )
Cheers
Wayne
what about pretec 133x 1gb? anyone tried it b4? Do we just judge the speed? if it is above 80x it would work fine?
thanks everyone for youre input. ive ordered a ridata 1GB SD card. its a 66x speed card. i read somewhere cant remember where now that tomtom needs a 10mbs card which is 66x speed which my main reason for buying the card will let you know how it goes when i receive the card.
Negative experience
Hi,
I bought a 1GB 66x BRAVO SD Card at Ebay.
Since then, my Alpine crashes over and over again.
I Soft reset it 5-10 times a day!
I guess it's the SD Card's fault as the device never crashes without the card.
Hi!
I have my XDA IIi for about 2 weeks now. So far I didn't have any problems with my SD-Cards.
I have a 256MB SD Card extrememory (no fancy speed...) that works quite well. I used it several days without problems and now have placed my rom backup on it.
The other SD Card I now use mainly for my XDA IIi is a 2GB Card from Transcent (150x). Until now I didn't had any strange problems with it (used it for about one and a half week).
I've finally found an SD card that works with Tomtom5 without crashing - it the Transcend 80x SD Card.
I've tried loads of others some better than others, but all crashed within minutes of starting TT5 except the Transcend.
Some other SD Cards were fine running Tomtom 3, but would not run Tomtom5 as all.
I've had the following cards that cause TT5 to crash:-
Kingston Ultimate 133x 512Mb
Kingston Elite 80x 512Mb
Scandisk 512Mb
The only other card that I've had that didn't cause TT5 to crash was :-
Compaq 128Mb (speed unknown as it came with an iPaq) but not big enough.
alinoorrahman said:
thanks everyone for youre input. ive ordered a ridata 1GB SD card. its a 66x speed card. i read somewhere cant remember where now that tomtom needs a 10mbs card which is 66x speed which my main reason for buying the card will let you know how it goes when i receive the card.
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Sorry alinoorahman - I fear I got to disappoint you :? I got a ridata card as well (256 MB, 66x). I also encounter the problem that it`s only available randomly.
Btw: 1GB extrememory won`t work neither :evil: big ****e
4gb sd card
wil a 4gb sd card work with an xda 11i or an exec??????
RE: SD Card with Alpine
Hi All,
I use a Zynet 1Gb 68x and my TomTom only has a problem with incoming calls. freezing to solve it, I turn my BT GPS on and off and this fixes it.
My friend is using a Qtek 2020i with Tomtom and a Transcend 1Gb 80x,
he has the same problem as me.
I don't know if the new 1.04 Radio version would help or not, when I get the energy I will upgrade my XDA IIi to this and test.
My opinion is that the Alpine has an internal power problem, as it only occurs with Bluetooth on, causing a power drain when a call is received thus your SD card briefly loses power. Its only a theory, the weight is towards some sort of design fault with the Alpine, otherwise one of the Carries etc would have sourced an answer by now, as the Alpine has been out long enough now. We cannot blame SD cards which work perfectly well with the majority of other electrical devices on the market.
hello..i got a 1 gb sandisk sd card which works fine in my qtek 2020i and i also use tom tom 5 with this and a 1gb pny sd card as well.
i never new there was all these problems with sd cards :shock:, saying that i always bought sandisk and they have not let me down before with this ppc phone or my past ppc phone like the spv m1000.
Hi there,
It looks like newer Transcend cards are not immune to the TomTom lock up issue.
I have an O2 branded XDA2i with PUGS rom etc. It runs TomTom5.21 fine with the first Transcend 1GB card I bought.
When I'm in the car, I have the phone connected to my car kit via bluetooth. When I make a call, TomTom continues to run, but shows the mute symbol. When I hang up the call, TomTom carries on as normal.
I decided to buy another Trancend card as a backup. This time, though whenever I make a call - TomTom locks up. As in other peoples posts, sometimes this can be cured by pulling the card and re-inserting, other times a soft reset is required.
I thought I'd got a faulty card, so bought another with the intention of returning the faulty one.
The new card shows the same problem.
All three cards were bought within two months of each other.
Anybody else seeing issues with new Transcend cards anfd TomTom?
Cheers,
Chris.
Could you have a look to how are your cards format?
32kb in fat32?
May be they are different...
It's interesting!
Hi there,
I used PocketMechanic to reformat the card to the same spec as the working card. Also tried many other combinations.
Dosn't make any difference on either of the two non working cards.
Perhaps my XDA is extra sensitive to power or speed of the card - but the two newer cards are definetly different.
Be warned all of you that think Transcend is the Holy Grail for SD cards.
Chris.
I have lockups using transcend 2gb 150x...tried several different format tools - it didn't help...
i don't know what to do with it...=(
I can't even listen to music because of pauses... I even tried a player which cashes songs into ram.... but what is strange - it didn't help...
but I think thats because of player didn't cash anything but said that did...
because I don't understand how can it stop playing for 1-2 seconds each minute with cash for 5mb or 5 minutes of music... =|
There is another post related to the same subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=240871#240871
I am experiencing the same problem.
I've bought the 1GB x80 TRANSCEND SD card a little less than a month ago because it was supposed to cure all QTEK2020i problems.
But in fact it hasn't changed ANYthing compared to the LEXAR x32 1GB I was using before.
So, I decided to upgrade my QTEK rom with PUGS rom while taking the risk of voiding the QTEK warranty.
Unfortunatly, it hasn't solved my problems either. It seemed more stable initialy, and has cured GPRS usage problems and brought slighlty better GSM quality, but that's all with my settings.
Someone has reported this week, that moving from SD to MMC has cured his TT5 problems.
I keep my fingers crossed hoping that this one will be the right fix.
For people who bought their PDA through EXPANSYS, I encourage you to join this support poll:
http://www.expansys.com/forumthread.asp?code=121444&thread=35&man=QTEK
And for those who bought the QTEK version of this PDA, I encourage you to complain about the lack of any suppoet on that product.
look at my solution here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43143
hope that will help..[/url]
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look at my solution here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43143
hope that will help..[/url]
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I am sorry Ice_mephi but I don't see any solution there, or I've mistunderstood your comments.
I understand that your SD card might have had errors and they got fixed with the StorageTools application, but I don't see any link between this problem and the TT5.21 freezes. Thanks anyway for mentionning this application.
Listening to music out of any SD card has never been a problem for me, and hans't ben reported as being one from polls I've read so far.
Have I mistunderstood anything ?
I've been using the Transcend 80x 1Gb card with Tom Tom 5.21 on my XDAIIi with absolutely no problems at all for at least a month now (including traffic updates via GPRS). I used tha card as supplied, without reformatting etc.
Andy R said:
I've been using the Transcend 80x 1Gb card with Tom Tom 5.21 on my XDAIIi with absolutely no problems at all for at least a month now (including traffic updates via GPRS). I used tha card as supplied, without reformatting etc.
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Hello Andy, also including POIS? Or only with the default installation.
Yes - I have POIs installed. It is set to remind me when I am near petrol stations and wi-fi hotspots (which I have set up myself).
I couldn't believe that the type of SD card would solve this, but it did, and I have never had a problem since!
Andy R said:
Yes - I have POIs installed. It is set to remind me when I am near petrol stations and wi-fi hotspots (which I have set up myself).
I couldn't believe that the type of SD card would solve this, but it did, and I have never had a problem since!
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SD? Another users say that the MMC is working better. :?
I have trascend SD 1Gb 80x, without pois it works perfect, but with them I have freezes... :?
From my experience, changing from a LEXAR x32 1GB to a TRANSCEND x80 1GB didn't solve the problem. Other persons mentionned that they got to the same conclusion with latest TRANSCEND SD cards.
Changing the SD formatting seems to have fixed most of TT5 issues with my TRANSCEND card but I haven't got on trip for hours to confirm it.
People who moved from SD to MMC seem to have got rid of any TT5 freezes.
EricD
MMC is the way ahead
I've tried all the stuff mentioned here, including getting a transcend sd card, and although it behaved for about an hour, it started freezing and locking regular after that. I now use a 1Gb TwinMOS MMC+ card, and after 400miles yesterday have not had a single problem. Take what you want from this, but my TT5.21 seems to prefer MMC.
MMC.... is the answer
Replaced my Transcend 1Gb & SanDisk Extreme III SD's for MMC and had no more lockups since
See this similiar post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=240871#240871
Ok, ran my 8 GB Sandisk microSD for a few weeks in my Kaiser, no issues. This night, something happened, and I can't say what. All of a sudden, the only things I see on my Storage card are directories. All files are gone (with the exception of a very few dozen). Nothing is there. Apps, music, pictures from the cam .... all 8 gigabytes gone (or at least invisible due to some filesystem corruption). I read about similar issues in the Hermes section on here, where there's a bunch of ideas like ROM issues, japan made SD instead of taiwanese, registry hacks....
Anyone else had this happen? Is it my Kaisers ROM (Original, 1.56.407.3)? Is my microSD bad? Is the combo of kaiser and this SD card bad?
i had a 2gb go bad out of nowhere.. i was so upset i went to walmart and stole another 2gb and put my screwed up 2gb in the box and put it back on the shelf..
my 2 gig wiped itself the other day. Luckily I keep app backups on my PC, so I just checked to make sure I could copy something to the storage card, then flashed a new ROM and restored all my setup .cabs from PC to storage card.
I keep all my PIM on internal storage and sync'd to exchange and a few things on SIM, so the only things I really lost were 2 music CDs, 1 music video, and a movie. I'll copy those back over when I actually want them.
But yeah, I don't trust anything will be permanent on my tilt, and that has nothing to do with the fact that I've flashed different ROMs 3 times a week since I got the phone.
Hm, does this now mean, that the 8gb microSD from SanDisk is useless for Kaisers? Would another brand maybe solve this? Or is it an issue of my rom? Do I have to send in the Kaiser?
Could be a ROM issue, a bad SanDisk chip, or some software you're running. I've been using an 8GB SanDisk for almost 3 months now with no problems.
These cards do fail; I had a bad 4GB Sandisk that became unusable within a day or so of fitting it; I returned that and have had no probs with the replacement over the last few weeks. Personally, if I had one that randomly wiped itself, I'd return it - that's not acceptable behaviour.
Boinng said:
These cards do fail; I had a bad 4GB Sandisk that became unusable within a day or so of fitting it; I returned that and have had no probs with the replacement over the last few weeks. Personally, if I had one that randomly wiped itself, I'd return it - that's not acceptable behaviour.
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Me too ! i have had a 2gb sandisk fail in my treo 680.
I have got a 8Gb unit in my vario III with no problems though and i read/write to it heavily throughout my working day. Its been in there for aroung 3 weeks and comes out every now and then go in USB reader too.
Hi,
I recently bought a 7501 and am loving it. When I played Xvid movies with TCPMP 0.72, I have trouble with the video performance. When the movie is on my Class 6 miniSDHC card, there's significant fram drop, the video is jerky all the time. When the movie is on the microdrive, if I turn off the "microdrive mode", it plays smoothly, but the microdrive is spinning all the time (I can hear it if I hold it close to my ear). This is surprising to me, as I bought the miniSDHC card to store and play my movies, so I don't have to use the microdrive for that. Am I missing something here or this is the way it is? Thanks for helping!!!
x2h said:
Hi,
I recently boubht a 7501 and am loving it. When I played Xvid movies with TCPMP 0.72, I have trouble with the video performance. When the movie is on my Class 6 miniSDHC card, there's significant fram drop, the video is jerky all the time. When the movie is on the microdrive, if I turn off the "microdrive mode", it plays smoothly, but the microdrive is spinning all the time (I can hear it if I hold it close to my ear). This is surprising to me, as I bought the miniSDHC card to store and play my movies, so I don't have to use the microdrive for that. Am I missing something here or this is the way it is? Thanks for helping!!!
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My videos are all in the microSDHC cards and play without problem.
I suggest you do a SKtools benchmark test to find out how your card is doing. I had problem similar to yours in the begining because I incorrectly formatted it. This problem also happens when there is corruption, lost clusters, etc. You might want to first copy your card content to th PC, then format your card (Make sure your formatting parameters are: Fat 32, no fat table backup and cluster size 32k), then copy your PC's files back to the storage card.
Let's see how it goes.
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My videos are all in the microSDHC cards and play without problem.
I suggest you do a SKtools benchmark test to find out how your card is doing. I had problem similar to yours in the begining because I incorrectly formatted it. This problem also happens when there is corruption, lost clusters, etc. You might want to first copy your card content to th PC, then format your card (Make sure your formatting parameters are: Fat 32, no fat table backup and cluster size 32k), then copy your PC's files back to the storage card.
Let's see how it goes.
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Thank you for the suggestion. I followed what you said and the performance doesn't improve. I then benchmarked the MiniSDHC card with Pocket Mechanics and the score is very low, much lower than a stone age 64 MB CF card, and much lower than the built in microdrive. Pocket Mechanics couldn't find any bad sectors. I tend to believe there's something wrong on the data transfer between 7502 and the MiniSD. What would you suggest next? Should get a replacement? Thanks!
x2h said:
Thank you for the suggestion. I followed what you said and the performance doesn't improve. I then benchmarked the MiniSDHC card with Pocket Mechanics and the score is very low, much lower than a stone age 64 MB CF card, and much lower than the built in microdrive. Pocket Mechanics couldn't find any bad sectors. I tend to believe there's something wrong on the data transfer between 7502 and the MiniSD. What would you suggest next? Should get a replacement? Thanks!
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How low? If it is very low, the service centre is likely to ask you to re-flash the ROM, and check the speed again. If after that it is still low, they would ask you to send it in for analysis.
I compared the file transferring speed of the Class 6 MiniSD with my Class 2 SDHC. I basically transferred a 1.2G movies file to both cards. It took 7 minutes for the SDHC, and 28 minutes (!) for the MiniSD card, to finish the transfer. I tend to believe this is a bad card now. I am going to get a replacement. Thanks for helping!
This might help you out
Take a quick look at this http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
It's a SD Card formatter from Panasonic that works with pretty much all SD, MiniSD and SDHC cards not just their own. I had a 4GB SD that was giving me trouble on my old Universal but gave it a run through this and seemed much better. It should work for your card as long as you have a card reader for your PC. It's seems windows own formatter does not quite work as it should with SD's as this seems to do things a little differently.
Oberth said:
Take a quick look at this http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
It's a SD Card formatter from Panasonic that works with pretty much all SD, MiniSD and SDHC cards not just their own. I had a 4GB SD that was giving me trouble on my old Universal but gave it a run through this and seemed much better. It should work for your card as long as you have a card reader for your PC. It's seems windows own formatter does not quite work as it should with SD's as this seems to do things a little differently.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I tried the tool you suggest but it didn't change anything. :-(