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Upgrade then backup question..C'MON PEOPLE I NEED YOUR HELP!

Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...

Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:

HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners

Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!

I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.

That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom

Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.

Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ

Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!

sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!

My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ

i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!

vincexda said:
(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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I DID IT!!

Woo-hoo!
I have finished the multiple hour process of doing the ROM and extended ROM upgrade!!! I am so proud of myself and had no one else to tell who would understand what the heck I meant - so I'm posting it here for my own personal pat on the back!!
Although I do think there is a need for re-writes for the BA incompetent because I accomplished this using wiki, here, and the BA standardization project yet still came across a few glitches....don't know how i figured them out but I guess after spending four days reading message boards and taking notes something must have stuck up there!! Also, it seems as if I had to piece meal the extended ROM update - which makes me hope I did it right but one of the places I downloaded it from was missing all the nbf files??
BUT....who cares now!!! I'm just excited I finally got it done. Now I can relax and have a drink or few and tomorrow start looking into the current radio update and the BT updates....but quick question....not that I am being lazy - but are they really necessary if I am not using a BT headset, and rarely use BT for anything else? After all the problems people had I just got a wired headset and can't even think about WM5.0 till they fix the sound issues for the SX66 - variable ringtones is an absolute must! Also, I rarely (like once a month) use the internet on this device so do I need the radio upgrade?
Another issue - can anyone explain why after doing hard resets active sync makes you set up a new paternership? I don't mind since it still ends up giving me all my Outlook info - but just was wondering why?
Well....off to do hubby's - hopefully his will take less time!! :roll:
THANKS to all who have contributed to XDA forums, wiki, and the BA standardization project - I couldn't have done it without your info, insight and problems you experienced!!! :lol:

not 100% sure, but I think the HR makes the thing reset everything... and... well..
I always change the name of my device...
And it tries to call itself PockePC again...
And the computer doesn't like that.
But if I change the name back to whatever it was and connect to the computer it tells me the name is in use. And that's annoying...
Before you slap that sucker back in the cradle, go to AS, FILE, Delete Partnership (you'll have about 100 from the way I read your post ) And... Well... Re-set it up using whatever name you wanted to use that it wouldn't let you.
And... if you're already doing this and are just wondering why it's necessary, look at the name of the software manufacturer and I'm certain you'll see the reason for your dificulty

Cingular 8125 and HT820. How to make it work?

Hi all,
I have been reading XDA for days and there is a lot of info. Wow!
Still, I am stumped and hope someone can point me to a noob thread that simply explains how to get the HT820 to work with the Cingular 8125. I recently bought one and it's a G3 version. It is set up to get push email (MS Outlook) from corporate (don't want to disable that). In fact, I really don't want to install anything extra or change anything except making it work with the HT820's.
I did unlock and CID unlock it with lokiwiz02b. I just can't determine specifically what I should do and which ROM I should use to just enable the BT stereo audio.
I thought is was as simple as loading an A2DP profile but dangit......is that a part of a ROM or a stand-alone update?
Thanks in advance,
swjtx

I'm getting there...
I know people hate answering the same question a thousand times and it seems likely that my questions have been answered time and again on this forum, but really, it's taking hours and hours sifting through all posts and replies. I'm also looking at info posted way back in Apr/May wondering if any of that good work is now old hat.
More reading turned up this thread where where Shogun answered part of my question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279127&highlight=ht820
Now....how do you install a .cab file? That question was asked but not answered in the other thread.
.....and so this isn't really a different ROM? so I didn't have to unlock the phone?
Thanks,
swjtx
ipl 2.25
spl 2.25
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.25.11.1

Making progress...
So I took a little break from this and while I was watching the Giants thrash the Bucs, it came to me. When I used Lokiwiz to unlock my phone, part of the procedure was to copy the .cab file included in the zip to my phone and execute it. Now everyone is thinking "what a big dummy" right?
So I copied it over, found it with file explorer and tapped on it with the stylus. It asked me where to install (device or storage card?). I chose device. It then said it installed successfully and that it may not display properly cuz it was designed for a previous version of Windows Mobile software....hmm....well anyways....now to test.
I decided to do a soft restart (dunno why....seems like a reboot is almost always a requirement on a PC after installing and program and this is still Windows after all).
Then I go to settings\bluetooth and pair new device.
I turn on the HT820 and continue holding down the power on button for about 6 seconds to get it into pairing mode and the phone recognizes it! The phone asks for a pass key.....and I haven't got a clue so I try 0000. Seems to work....now to play an mp3...
First up: AC/DC If you want blood, you've got it. Yes, it worked!! I left the phone by the PC and walked out into the garage and major skips/blank spots all throughout the song. Maybe I am just getting too far away? It's maybe 15 to 20 feet through a few walls. Ok, next up: AC/DC Girls got Rythym. This time, I'll stay close to the phone. Nice! Almost 3/4 of the way through and no skips!!.
The HT820 bought from Newegg.com and doesn't appear to be one of the Asian knock-offs described in other posts in this forum (see guys and gals, I really have been reading).
Alrighty!! Made it all the way through that song and no skips! Next up: AC/DC Jail Break. Look Ma! No Skips!! How about AC/DC It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll.
Bliss. Thanks to Shogun for the file in his answer to a previous noob post. I might want to do other things to the phone later (change splash, play with other ROMS, Radio's, etc.) but this gets me by today with wireless tuneage!!!. Haven't tried answering calls etc. Next thing to do is get all the rest of my Bon Scott era AC/DC copied over. Why oh why would anyone ever want to listen to anything else!!
swjtx
ipl 2.25
spl 2.25
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.25.11.1
ROM Version 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM Date 5/11/06
Radio Version 02.25.11
Protocol Version 4.1.13.12
ExtROM Version 2.25.11.102

i do what i can when i have time! Thanks for the thanks and good job answering your own thread, and even better for putting your results.. good thread for other n00bs with the same question

Awesome....I installed the .cab file off the other thread. Didnt think about rebooting. That was the extra step I needed.
I installed it on the storage card and it is working fine. Thanks guys. I joined the forum just to get into the threads after buying the headset today. I was disappointed after buying the headphones (HT820). Getting them home and it not working with the 8125.
Nice work!!

Another Shogun fan here. I just installed your .cab file to my storage card and had no trouble pairing up an old set of logitech bluetooth cans. I think I'll look into the HT820's as I'd like to have the ability to talk in between songs.
Thanks to you and to all the wonderful people here. I can't tell you how much I admire your skills when it comes to enhancing these toys...er tools (former Dell Axim user too). This site has provided so much info and has made this phone really sing.

so when thing i could never fix was the skipping problem.. since then i have changed phones to the 8525/hermes.. there was some work done over on the hermes thread that we fixed the skipping problem.. you might want to check it out
here is the thread i made on the wizard board for it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284978

In Call Volume issues...

Hi, this is my first time posting on this forum but I have nowhere else to go! I have had an XDA mini now for a few months and it has got to a stage now where I can only hear the other caller by using a bluetooth headset.
My question is would a new ROM affect this, is it the O2 ROM particularly bad? I am wary of flashing the ROM and want to know if a fresh one would make any difference at all.
I have also read up about Radio ROMS, can I just replace this?
Sorry for all the questions, I hope you guys can help!

Welcome to XDA-Developers.
If your in call volume has gotten steadily worse over time, it may be a hardware issue. Before you go trying to flash a new ROM you may want to try backing up your personal data and then doing a hard reset first and see if that solves the problem. If it doesn't then flashing a new ROM probably won't help much either.
If you do decide to try flashing a new ROM then make sure you read and re-read the posts on CID unlocking first and make sure you know what you're doing because doing it wrong can turn it in to a nice expensive shiny brick.
You asked if you can replace Radio ROM's, the answer to that is yes. There are plenty of them around here that you can try out. You might try changing to a different radio ROM first before trying a hard reset, but since you said it's been getting steadily worse I'm thinking that it's probably not your problem. I could be wrong about that though.

Thanks for the reply!
I wouldnt say 'steadily worse' but when I got it it was ok and kept going from normal to whisper quiet, like it was a problem with the signal, now its stuck at whisper quiet. I have done many a hard reset and this worked first time around, but then the cycle repeated itself. Now a hard reset does nothing.
Could it be a speaker connection? Also friends have reported that although I can hear them properly on handsfree (built in), they cannot hear my voice very clearly. Seems an odd combo to me....but hey what do I know!
Could you recommend a radio rom or is it a case of trial and error?

Radio ROMs are kind of a trial and error thing, what works for one person in one area might not work so well for someone else in another. It depends on who your carrier is and where you're located. Try 2.19.11 first, it seems to be the one that works for the most people. If that one doesn't work well, try 2.47 and/or 2.69 next as they seem to be the next runners up.

awesome! will give it a go and let you know!
Thanks again!

sorry to be a pain! but where do I get the rom from?

SpecialAgentCooper said:
sorry to be a pain! but where do I get the rom from?
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From this forum. Make a search

didn't see that link! Cheers!!

didn't see that link! Cheers!!

I am gonna sound like a complete muppet now but how do i install a radio rom. To complicate things more I am a mac user, but have an intel mac so can run windws stuff if necessary.
Sorry to hassle but im not much good at this stuff!

I don't know anything about mac's, but if you can run windows programs like you said, connect your phone to your sync cable and then run the ROMUpdateUtility that is included in the zip file and just follow the instructions. It's easy, and since I'm guessing that you haven't done this kind of thing before, when the rom update utility runs it will tell you that you will lose all your information on your phone. You can ignore that, you won't lose anything. The same utility is used for installing entire ROMs in which case you would lose everything, but not when just updating a Radio ROM.

thanks for the info. Downloaded the radio Rom suggested, ran the utility but it tells me it cannot update and to get a newer version of the update utility. I have looked into this and it seems my Wizard is a G4 model, is there an update utility for this? if so where can I find it!
Thanks in advance!

dont worry found it on the G4 forum! Installed it and I can hear again! Never thought I would get it fixed! Thanks for all our help! It is no longer in danger of flying against the nearest wall!

Sound Completely Gone (Please Help!)

Yesterday I flashed my Tilt and installed the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.03.405.0 ROM. Everything was working just fine. My fiancee liked the new layout and functionality, so I flashed her phone tonight, with the same ROM and everything.
However, from the moment she called my phone from hers to test the new ROM, neither of our phones has played any sound whatsoever. No ringtones, no media files, we can't even here or talk to other people when we make calls. I've also noticed that for whatever reason, inside the alarms menu when I try to set an alarm sound, the drop down menu forces the selection to "Default". Even if I try scroling with the keypad or the wheel, the selection shifts up or down one, then immediately returns to "Default". I'm guessing these two problems are somehow connected, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what the problem is or why it would suddenly afflict both phones, even though I hadn't done anything to mine except answer her call.
I've tried resetting the phone and going through all sorts of options, but nothing seems to make a difference. I can still send and recieve text messages, and the vibrate works just fine. I can even connect to calls, but I can't hear the other person and they can't hear me.
I've looked around online and in this forum, and I only found one instance of someone else complaining about this problem (on a blog with a top 10 list of fixes for Tilt problems), but his plea went unanswered there.
As it is, I couldn't call 911 if I needed to right now, so this is a pretty big problem.
Any ideas? Do I just need to re-flash both phones?

gibberjabber said:
Yesterday I flashed my Tilt and installed the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.03.405.0 ROM. Everything was working just fine. My fiancee liked the new layout and functionality, so I flashed her phone tonight, with the same ROM and everything.
However, from the moment she called my phone from hers to test the new ROM, neither of our phones has played any sound whatsoever. No ringtones, no media files, we can't even here or talk to other people when we make calls. I've also noticed that for whatever reason, inside the alarms menu when I try to set an alarm sound, the drop down menu forces the selection to "Default". Even if I try scroling with the keypad or the wheel, the selection shifts up or down one, then immediately returns to "Default". I'm guessing these two problems are somehow connected, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what the problem is or why it would suddenly afflict both phones, even though I hadn't done anything to mine except answer her call.
I've tried resetting the phone and going through all sorts of options, but nothing seems to make a difference. I can still send and recieve text messages, and the vibrate works just fine. I can even connect to calls, but I can't hear the other person and they can't hear me.
I've looked around online and in this forum, and I only found one instance of someone else complaining about this problem (on a blog with a top 10 list of fixes for Tilt problems), but his plea went unanswered there.
As it is, I couldn't call 911 if I needed to right now, so this is a pretty big problem.
Any ideas? Do I just need to re-flash both phones?
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ouch... this is a pretty easy one and has been answered MANY times... check the thread called "no sound or camera problems... change your radio" so yeah... change your radio.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, but I've searched the exact string you posted, I've tried "No sound" (with and without quotes, and several other combination, and I can't find the thread you're talking about. I'm sorry if this question pops up a lot, I really did spend an hour and a half trying to find the answer before asking. Can you please provide a link or show me why my searches aren't finding the right results?

For what it's worth, I think the poster above was directing me to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
but I'm not %100 sure.

gibberjabber said:
For what it's worth, I think the poster above was directing me to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
but I'm not %100 sure.
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oops... they must have changed the title... it used to be "sound and camera issues: Change your radio" admittadly this new title is more confusing let me know if changing you radio to the recommended one fixes your problem(ignore spelling errors, too tired to care)

Wow.. I've been at this for a while now. I'm starting to understand the whole Radio thing, but I'm having the damnedest time figuring out which radio I should be installing. I've found pages and pages of numbers and names, but what I haven't seen is recommendations or hints towards the HTC 3.03.405.0 ROM's compatibility with the various radios. I've tried changing the radio once so far, but it didn't change any of the issues I"m having.. I'll keep trying (So not looking forward to work tomorrow)

gibberjabber said:
Wow.. I've been at this for a while now. I'm starting to understand the whole Radio thing, but I'm having the damnedest time figuring out which radio I should be installing. I've found pages and pages of numbers and names, but what I haven't seen is recommendations or hints towards the HTC 3.03.405.0 ROM's compatibility with the various radios. I've tried changing the radio once so far, but it didn't change any of the issues I"m having.. I'll keep trying (So not looking forward to work tomorrow)
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listen, you dont have to try every radio individually.... I dont know if your rom is 6.0 or 6.1 but that should start to narrow it down... but worse comes to worse you only have to try 4 different radios... the first 3 numbers are the important ones... after that try the others starting with those numbers to find the best reception/gps fix etc... so try one of each of the
1.27 (if you have 6.0)
or
1.58
1.64
1.65 (if you have 6.1) (which is more likely if this is a new rom)
whatever you do do NOT flash to 1.65.17.10
try those 4 starting with 1.65

Thanks so much for your help and patience with me.
Ok.. this is slowly coming together in my head.
I'm flashing 1.64.08.21 right now, and I'm running WM6.1 on an AT&T Tilt.
And... grr.. still no luck.
Guess I'll have to go without my phone for tomorrow, cause if I don't get some sleep now, I'll probably kill a customer at work.

gibberjabber said:
Thanks so much for your help and patience with me.
Ok.. this is slowly coming together in my head.
I'm flashing 1.64.08.21 right now, and I'm running WM6.1 on an AT&T Tilt.
And... grr.. still no luck.
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try 1.65.20.29... I bet that'll get everything running

hi i believe this is the rom u updated to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
you may find somthing on there to help. it says on there that the radio to use is 1.64.06.04 but if you alredi tried a 1.64 radio and it didnt work try the 1.65 as sugested. If you still have no luck then try a different rom that should fix the no sound issue straight away.
try duttys diamond rom with the 1.65.16.25 radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271
download links are on the page. let us know how it goes.

I tried your suggestions, and althoughth 1.65 radio didn't work, I flashed Dutty's rom and everything is smooth sailing. Thanks SOOOOO much for working with me to figure this out, this really is a fantastic community!

Glad everything worked out for you my friend, everyone here is very helpful if you have any more problems just shout and someone will answer.