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Upgrade then backup question..C'MON PEOPLE I NEED YOUR HELP!

Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...

Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:

HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners

Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!

I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.

That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom

Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.

Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ

Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!

sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!

My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ

i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!

vincexda said:
(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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I DID IT!!

Woo-hoo!
I have finished the multiple hour process of doing the ROM and extended ROM upgrade!!! I am so proud of myself and had no one else to tell who would understand what the heck I meant - so I'm posting it here for my own personal pat on the back!!
Although I do think there is a need for re-writes for the BA incompetent because I accomplished this using wiki, here, and the BA standardization project yet still came across a few glitches....don't know how i figured them out but I guess after spending four days reading message boards and taking notes something must have stuck up there!! Also, it seems as if I had to piece meal the extended ROM update - which makes me hope I did it right but one of the places I downloaded it from was missing all the nbf files??
BUT....who cares now!!! I'm just excited I finally got it done. Now I can relax and have a drink or few and tomorrow start looking into the current radio update and the BT updates....but quick question....not that I am being lazy - but are they really necessary if I am not using a BT headset, and rarely use BT for anything else? After all the problems people had I just got a wired headset and can't even think about WM5.0 till they fix the sound issues for the SX66 - variable ringtones is an absolute must! Also, I rarely (like once a month) use the internet on this device so do I need the radio upgrade?
Another issue - can anyone explain why after doing hard resets active sync makes you set up a new paternership? I don't mind since it still ends up giving me all my Outlook info - but just was wondering why?
Well....off to do hubby's - hopefully his will take less time!! :roll:
THANKS to all who have contributed to XDA forums, wiki, and the BA standardization project - I couldn't have done it without your info, insight and problems you experienced!!! :lol:

not 100% sure, but I think the HR makes the thing reset everything... and... well..
I always change the name of my device...
And it tries to call itself PockePC again...
And the computer doesn't like that.
But if I change the name back to whatever it was and connect to the computer it tells me the name is in use. And that's annoying...
Before you slap that sucker back in the cradle, go to AS, FILE, Delete Partnership (you'll have about 100 from the way I read your post ) And... Well... Re-set it up using whatever name you wanted to use that it wouldn't let you.
And... if you're already doing this and are just wondering why it's necessary, look at the name of the software manufacturer and I'm certain you'll see the reason for your dificulty

hey all ! new around here just a quicky.

Hi everyone! great info on this site. been lookin around for a few hours now. Ive had my Qtek9090 for almost a year now. Trying to get a grip on this whole UPGRADING the ROMs idea. which brings me to my question.
I am a firm beliver of the whole "if it aint broke, dont fix it" saying... however i would like to upgrade my PDA for legitament reasons...
I am not interested in going to MOBILE 5. from what i have gathered it has conflicts with TOMTOM NAV 5 (which i use everyday) and other conflicts that convince me otherwise.
However, my PDA does hang randomly causing me to "soft reset" and sometimes when i call people they cannot hear me but i can hear them..
I am just curious as to which upgrades specifically i need to rid of said problems.. (If the upgrades fix other "bugs" that doesnt hurt either.. but i dont want to open the door to more problems..)
Thanks in advance everyone.
P.S. - how do i get my profile to allow me to choose qtek9090 and rom dates from the drop down boxes? i added the correct info to signature box, due to the fact that i could not add it initally.

I have to say that running TomTom5 on WM5 i've had no problems since TomTom released a 5.2 patch.
The reason I went for WM5 was very simular to the problems you are having, random lockups and sometimes if I answered a call I could hear someone but they couldnt hear me. Since going to WM5 I haven't had any problems with these two issues. The only thing that WM5 has that bugs me is the slow keyboard, which a simple overclocking can fix (which Blue Angels are designed to do)
Do you know what ROM you are on at the moment? If you goto 'Start -> Settings -> Device Information' then you can get all the versions, copy them here and I guess peeps will be able to tell you what can be upgraded.

Duh! Signature... :roll:

hehe
LOL @ signature! agagag. hmm im actually scared of going to wm5. but huh who knows.. i would really rather avoid it tho... How is that new patch for tomtom? what does it fix? thanks for the quick answer.

radio rom
You might try updating your radio rom to 1.15
Greetings vastloper

Well before the patch I couldn't even install TomTom5! :lol:
The trick is to download the update BEFORE trying to install TomTom5. If you unzip the update package (WinRAR does it) then insert your TomTom installation CD without autorun, then in the folder you unziped run the "setup.exe" program. Hay presto it all works.
It's even simpler then I make it sound.
And yeah, Radio Upgrade if nothing else should fix a couple of problems. I think you have to do a hard reset anyway for the radio update, but if your BA keeps locking up I'd make sure you do one.

thanks for the info
thanks for the info guys... yea i did something stupid last night. i tried to do that VGA hack, and it ended up not working and screwing up my file explorer? any ideas on how to remove it? ive been messin with it and i got tot he point where its "GOOD AS IS" and i deleted the files.. whats teh file called so i can look in the FTP downloads for the 1.15 RADIO UPDATE.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade
Not only do you get the file, but full instructions on how to install it. :wink:
On the same page is a link to the old versions, so if for somereason you don't like the 1.15 Radio ROM you can just downgrade again. In fact the same goes for WM5.

thanks
hey thanks alot bro. Ill give the upgrade a shot.
I am more interested in vastloper because he has or had the same QTEK 9090 as i did. and im just curious as to how your current ROM is? stable? anything ya dont like about it??

well guys updated to the 1.5 RADIO ROM after reading the whole thread... had some probs with installation but thanks to the INFO on the site i managed to get through it... however i did lose my MP3 sound. and could not find an answer to it so far.. anyone got an idea?
1 person mentioned he had the same problem. but everyone else didnt.

update
did some trouble shooting and narrowed it down to media player i think. If i do a soft reset, and load an MP3 from PDA HD, it works. but when i close media player, all my sound cuts out!! even basic windows tones.
the sound will work while playing the MP3, even when i use the pause button, But its only after i close MEDIA PLAYER all my sound stops working. Any ideas?

found a ref to the exact same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28534&highlight=mp3+stop+sound
i duno if theres a fix... Thinking about going to Tmobile 1.42 im going to bed ive been reading for 10 hrs straight and its 7 am.

Cing8125 users: 217 ROM w/CF2,ringers,themes and A2DP on ftp

I suspect this is as close to the perfect ROM as I can make for you folks, until I find something else universally useful to add..
This ROM has the following characteristics:
-Based on QTek 2.17.7.102
-OS 5.1.195 Build 1487.2.0.0
-Radio 02.07.10
-Protocol 412.1.03
-Includes assorted ringers, themes, OmapClock, and yes, A2DP
- .NET Compact Framework is integrated. It is build 2.0.5238.0
- .NET Compact Framework 1 has been left in. Build 1.0.4292.2
-Did I mention it has A2DP integrated?
-It is not coded to a specific carrier, so theoretically you shouldn't have to CID unlock. HOWEVER, I ask, no, I demand that you CID unlock before installing. Only then will you be allowed to grovel in the forum for help if you run into problems achieving a successful flash.
-Each morning at 7am it will gently vibrate, go start the coffee maker, fetch the newspaper, feed the dogs, and start your bath. Should you leave it at home it's likely to cuddle with your wife...it has no loyalties.
It can be found here until it gets moved:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP.exe
If anyone asks me to make this ROM using 2.08 I'll send my legions of monkeys to harass and belittle you in public.

Thanks man, this is kick ass.

MY HERO!
Dude, you ROCK!!! You have made my decision to get this phone more and more worth it. Thanks again!

A2DP Not Working
So, I CID Unlocked and installed this new ROM successfully. Then I went to the connections screen and enabled bluetooth. Opened up Bluetooth Settings and created a new partnership with my Moto HT820. Went through all the normal steps and it found Hands Free and Wireless Stereo services on my headphones device. I saved the settings.
In 2.08/2.87, at this point I would press the right ear button, which would activate Wireless Stereo mode and I would see a music icon in the top bar. It didn't happen on this new ROM. Another method is to go back to the Bluetooth settings and click&hold on the device and you see a list of services (Hands Free and Wireless Stereo) and then choose Wireless Stereo. On this new ROM, only Hands Free is listed. If I choose to edit the device, it lists that Wireless Stereo is supported on the headphones, but it is not available as a mode on the phone.
I will be going back to 2.08/2.87 for now. Let me know If you happen to figure out what's might be going on.
Thanks!

Hey Summiter .... canyou? .... are you going to? .... I need? .... would you? .... nevermind can't think of anything

A2DP not working with HT820
I've successfully flashed this ROM and tried to pair Motorola HT820 headset but it was not recognized as Wireless Stereo. It was recognized like Hands-free only.
Anyone knows how to make it work? Thanks

Does this ROM still have the issue where the device won't vibrate from standby?
Also... for those of us just tuning in...
What's the benefit of having additional components (like CF) loaded through the extended ROM? When they're installed, will they live in ROM instead of taking up precious storage space? Or is it just the convenience of having everything install from one place?
Maybe Voice Commander in the next release...?

the non-vibrate thing is part of the rom, as MS made it that way. and voice command isn't free, so i doubt he'd include it in the rom.

amg212 said:
Does this ROM still have the issue where the device won't vibrate from standby?
Also... for those of us just tuning in...
What's the benefit of having additional components (like CF) loaded through the extended ROM? When they're installed, will they live in ROM instead of taking up precious storage space? Or is it just the convenience of having everything install from one place?
Maybe Voice Commander in the next release...?
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CF goes to main memory regardless of the settings you choose at installation (you can choose Storage Card >>> it installs w/o error message to main memory).
You can see the appropriate files in the \windows directory. They all start with GACxxxx.
Cheers
hrb

Good Stuff...
One question though. Does this still have the battery indicator moved to the top. I just flashed yesterday without issue but I'm thinking the battery indicator can be optioned. Obviously this is a miniscule issue compared to the other great work you've done. Thanx guy.
J

the battery icon at the top is part of the AKU2.

darkjedi said:
the non-vibrate thing is part of the rom, as MS made it that way. and voice command isn't free, so i doubt he'd include it in the rom.
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I was talking about Voice Commander - not MSVC

Oi Vey!
I'm all settled in on v2.87. everything works, wifi, a2dp, btaudio e.g.
What extras is this going to buy me??
Maybe I'll hold off for a little longer.
Still, thumbs up to Summiter. :wink:

as much as a pain in the ass it is, the 2.17 rom with A2DP is MUCH more stable than the test rom.

Hi Summiter,
I'm set to receive my 8125 this week. I've been doing as much reading and bookmarking as I can until I have the phone in my hands, but I haven't seen this question posted yet.
When a user loads your ROM, does the phone start at the beginning of the customization process (setting time zones, preferences, etc) or do your customizations piggyback as the defaults? What's making me ask is I see you've mapped your camera button to the omap 252 overclock setting and I'm curious what to expect when I load this ROM. Thanks!

100Tbps said:
Hi Summiter,
I'm set to receive my 8125 this week. I've been doing as much reading and bookmarking as I can until I have the phone in my hands, but I haven't seen this question posted yet.
When a user loads your ROM, does the phone start at the beginning of the customization process (setting time zones, preferences, etc) or do your customizations piggyback as the defaults? What's making me ask is I see you've mapped your camera button to the omap 252 overclock setting and I'm curious what to expect when I load this ROM. Thanks!
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Your phone looses all setting and resets as if you just took it out of the box. Its a pain to do over but most of us have become pretty proficient at it with our mulitude of ROM reloads ;-)

Can anyone confirm that they have A2DP working on this ROM?
For folks that have reported not being able to get A2DP working - can you confirm whether the file "bta2dp.dll" exists in your windows directory? It's a hidden file so you'll need to set your file manager to view all files.
Thanks.

Is there an upgrade in one of these ROM versions for the Bluetooth? Im having issues with my 8125 and my BMW hands free car kit. My contact list doesnt show up on my display in the car. I had a SE 710a and it worked perfectly. With my 8125 I cant get the contact list on the hands free.

If you've CID unlocked previously, and you have 2.17 now, can you just use this ROM directly? Or is it necessary to downgrade and then CID unlock again? Sorry for the noob question.

Summiter...
There has been talk and concern about the 8125 erasing data on the sd card if you set your email options to save attachments to it. I was wondering if you knew anything about this and/or the new ROM version might fix the issue.

new 8125. what to do?

i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.

akamavrik1012 said:
hey, thanx for takin a look. im new to posting and this site and forums in general. i dont know what im about to ask if its Ok or not. if its not, i know im going to get scolded for it, but plz just let me know how to go about it for future ref. im probably going to be asking questions that can be found throughout the site f i just looked. i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. i just got a cingular 8125. though i am not new to windows mobile cuz ive been a heavy user or mpx200 then the mpx220 and great on a regular windows os, i didnt want to take any chances with the 8125. i dont want to install something or mess up or miss a process of installing a file or program and my 8125 is gone just as quick as i got it ot anything.one of my purposes is to leave my laptop at home when i travel or just goin round. though i am a college student, not a business man, im big on having convienience when i need it for work, or for personal use. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.
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Welcome, friend.
First, I have to admit that I have ADD, and couldn't summon the attention to read your entire post.
I do however think that what you are looking for you can find by browsing and searching these, as well as the Cingular HoFo forums.
When you say your 8125 is "carrier unlocked", do you mean SIM unlocked? If so, that's just swell, but won't allow you to install any ROMs that didn't come from Cingular. You need to CID unlock to install custom ROMs. (Tip: search for "CID unlock")
Start by reading through several pages in the plain 'ol "Wizard" forum (the forum you're in now is the Wizard upgrading forum) - you'll find lots of useability discussions in there. HoFo is good for that as well.
In the future, if you find features of some of the custom ROMs desireable, you'll need to have your device CID unlocked, and you'll have to run a program on your PC that flashes your device. When you get to that point, post a message and I or any of the other fine folks around here will help you. Be sure that you've done all the reading you can stand first though.
Here's a basic primer on some of the terms you'll see around here:
CID lock: carrier ID lock - restricts device to ROMs from originating carrier
SIM lock: locks a device to the originating carrier's SIM cards
Extended ROM: a portion of storage on a device used to store customization files
radio ROM: the code on the device that interfaces with the xmit/recv hardware
AKU: Adaptation Kit Update - essentially a service pack for Windows Mobile. These can add fixes and/or features. AKU 2.0 and above includes Direct Push
Direct Push: push mail/calendar/contacts - like Blackberry. Used with Exchange server SP2, this will push new items to your device as they arrive or are changed.
Sleep: what I should be doingzzzzz

If you're new to the Wizard and trying to pick a ROM to try, I'd suggest one of the following based on your carrier:
T-Mobile US - Download one of Xelencin's ROMs
Cingular - You want one of Summiter's creations
If you are overseas and use a different carrier, or just want a barebones ROM to customize the way you see fit, grab Mr. Clean.
Since you say you've got an 8125, I'm guessing that you're on Cingular in the US. In that case, stick with Summiter's latest as it will be a plug-and-play solution for you.

Ultimate Wizard setup
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.

Re: Ultimate Wizard setup
goodbyte said:
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.
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A post worthy of a sticky if I have EVER seen one!!!!