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MSFP issues with new 2.25 CWS ROM? Am I missing something?

Hey everyone,
I'm new to these boards but have been a long time PDA/phone user. Last night, I downloaded and installed the 2.25 ROM for my Cingular 8125 device and setup my Exchange account.
I have an MS Exchange 2003 SP2 mailbox and setup Direct Push, but the e-mails still take a minute or two to get to me when a Blackberry or GoodLink take about 15 seconds. It seems that the Exchange server just pushes out an IP packet to my phone to make it go through the [seemingly wasteful] process of performing an ActiveSync operation. So constantly my connection arrows are alternating between "connected" and "ActiveSyncing." To me, it's almost as slow as the old SMS push-pull method.
Furthermore, it seems that (a) my ability to sync my subfolders is gone. Previously, I could select folders to sync to my device from my device. Now, I can select all my folders, but they are all empty (except my Inbox). If I go to Menu -> Tools, the "Manage Folders" option is greyed out. I cannot tap and hold a folder to sync it. And (b), the option to manually "send/receive" is also greyed out. If I turn DirectPush off (which I do at night to prevent receiving my emails), I have to open the ActiveSync application to get my e-mail instead of previously being able to tap Menu -> Send/Receive from the Messaging program.
Is this normal? Are these the results that others are seeing from MSFP? Finally, are there any other noteworthy improvements in this ROM other than MSFP? If this is the case, and there are no other improvements, wouldn't it behoove me to revert back to the previous ROM?
Thank you in advance for you help and insight!
-M-

The messaging app can switch between SMS, Email and MMS. You can switch it by press Email button on top left corner or by changing accounts in menu. Sounds like all you issue is related to the fact that your messaging app is currently in other accounts like SMS or MMS.

foxbat121 said:
The messaging app can switch between SMS, Email and MMS. You can switch it by press Email button on top left corner or by changing accounts in menu. Sounds like all you issue is related to the fact that your messaging app is currently in other accounts like SMS or MMS.
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Foxbat,
Thank you, but I am in the Outlook E-mail account. I'm pretty savvy about these things to know at least that much!
I'm still not able to manage my folders or manually send and receive and I still feel like there's a longer lag time than Blackberry or GoodLink.
Are you using the MSFP ROM with an Exchange 2003 SP2 account? If so, what are your experiences?
Thanks again!

Yes, I'm using MSFP on 2.17 ROM right now. I have none of your issues.

i can just say that it doesn't sound like the MSFP is actually working in your case. Once i switched to directpush, my messages are on my phone within 5 seconds, no activesync whatsoever. same for calendar, tasks and contacts.
i have a tmo blackberry and a tmo mda - i tested sending messages to both at the same time, on average the mda receives the message about 1 second later than the blackberry - an extrememly nice improvement.

The send/receive option in Outlook account is always greyed out, you can only receive email there by syncing or push mail. there is a thread on this on this forum, called Pocket Outlook Account is worthless or something like that.

Koksie said:
The send/receive option in Outlook account is always greyed out, you can only receive email there by syncing or push mail. there is a thread on this on this forum, called Pocket Outlook Account is worthless or something like that.
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Wrong. It works just fine all the time for me in 2.17 ROM and 2.24 ROM (I skipped the worthless 2.25 Cingular ROM). I don't know what's wrong with OP's issue. Maybe he should re-examine the settings or do a hard reset.

I had a similar problem when I updated my ROM. Send/recieve and Manage Folders was greyed out. I fixed it by deleting the sync to my exchange and re-adding it through active sync on my PC. From active sync on the PC double click Exchange server. Click the "delete server" button. Wait for it to sync and remove all your emails from the phone. Then go Tools > Configure Server Source and add it back in. This worked for me.
If that doesn't work, you can select folders in active sync. That also worked for me before I deleted and re-added my exchange. Not as handy as being able to do it from the phone though.
edit: oops. old thread. Is it 2007 already? :O Oh well, the info may help someone...

peon said:
edit: oops. old thread. Is it 2007 already? :O Oh well, the info may help someone...
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It's helped me! Thank you so much peon!

MMS account missing

I got my XDA IIi second hand and there is no mms account in messaging, There is no mms account in registry either.
Is there any way to restore the mms service? Maybe if someone can send me the missing registry key (similar to sms registry key)? I have tryed hard reseting and no luck.
Best regard
Igor

Here you go dude,
Just extract the cab from the zip file and install!!
RR

Here is how to get rid of outlook e-mail from messages!

As I have been sifting through the forum I have come across several threads about people wanting to know how to get rid of outlook e-mail from messages.
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
Well here's how to get rid of it.
First you will need a registry editor, I recommend Resco Registry editor but others will work fine.
Then you will need to make a backup of the registry key we are going to delete. So open up your registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc
Now in here you will find several folders(so to speak). These include Activesync, imap4, pop3, MMS1 and SMS.
Go into Activesync and their should be a key called "Friendly Name" this should say something like "Outlook" go back to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc then select the "Activesync" folder and use menu to export the folder as a .reg file (backup file) then select the "Activesync" folder again, but this time delete it.
Now close your reg editor and go into messages and the Outlook title should be replaced with the title Activesync. Just soft-reset your device and the Outlook mailbox including "Activesync" has now disappeared leaving just the e-mail accounts and other message accounts that you use whilst mobile.
Should you wish to restore this option just inport the .reg file you created into the registry and soft-reset and it'll be back.
Well I hope this helps. And quick thanks to all members of this forum for your continued support to the community and even helping the little guys.
diigibio (diigimatrix)

worked on my Tilt
Thanks! Great solution!
EDIT: Wiped out my outgoing MMS. Dropped registry backup back in and both MMS and Outlook Mail were back.

diigibio said:
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
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Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?

What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.

dis39tif said:
What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.
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Each of these folders represent an account within messages. So "Activesync" is "outlook" (used and updated when syncing with a pc version of outlook or using an exchange server), IMAP4 Corresponds to my (@btinternet.com/using imap), SMS is for SMS (go figure/lol), MMS1 (this can also just be MMS on some device/dependant on version of Arcsoft) POP is for my (@3mail) account and Hotmail is for hotmail (in juction with using Windows live).
So by deleting the "activesync" folder you are in effect deleting the information to display the account.
Also I deleted the imap4 folder (after making a backup of course of the reg entry) And soft-reset the device. It removed my @btinternet account with e-mails. But after i imported the .reg backup I made and soft-reset the device again the account returned with all e-mails intact and fully readable.
**Possibility for a freeware app to hide accounts that are private??? using a password to auto add/remore .reg to access accounts or maybe not. **
Thanks trying to bring something to those who have helped me... Thanks
diigibio (diigimatrix)

unwired4 said:
Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?
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Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
So I needed access to my @btinternet account whilst mobile but in the outlook folder that wqould not let me sync so then i had to set up the other.
So i stopped it syncing with outlook messages on the pc and then decided to try and get rid of the outlook account, which is what i then proceeded to do!
Ok i am going to stop now before i start going round in circles..
But thanks for the question..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
kudos to You mate!
br
bro

bronx said:
thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
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Your welcome mate. To be honest I think it was your comment about it I came accross the other day on the forum, which is one of the reasons I decided to post it. I'll try and help more if I can. I've just setup talking dial tones. so when I dial a number it says the number rather than beep. Thanks to grumps for the tones!! I think he's compiling an app to do this easier. But i couldn't wait and so set it up via the registry...
Oh www.htcclassaction.org reports we could have proper display drivers by the end of march!! So fingers crossed our Kaiser will fullfil their legacy!!

diigibio said:
Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
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Cool. Thanks for explaining.

Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.

dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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Yeah, sounds like it. If you post that .cab here. I'll take a look for you mate and see what I can come up with over the next week. Failing that I can take my .reg setting for the mms and possibly create a link to the default messaging app.
However my best mate has an o2 xda orbit and I installed WM6 on it but there is no 6.1 yet and he wanted threaded sms. So i installed Shogun's Palm sms. Now when he opens that app he does not have mms, however when I linked to the default messaging app that still contained his mms account and all the mms I sent him were waiting there for him.
So try this out and if you need my help just ask. You can PM me for my e-mail address if you want to send the .cab direct or ask for any other help. I am at work tomorrow(or should I say today) and am on a sleep over so i will check my pm but it'll be from my Kaiser.
Hope I could help..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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I have used a .cab analyser on the enablemms.cab and it contains no registry entries at all (none will be added or removed(except for unistall info and platform.reg which I believe is more to do with os at a guess))
and contains these files:
CeSetup.dll in the \Program Files\Tools Folder
checkfile.exe in the windows folder
Platformxxx.reg in the windows folder
CM_Entries.xml in the windows folder
And
Customize.lst in the \Program Files\Tools folder
Let me know how you get on..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro

bronx said:
hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro
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No worries mate, I still have sound on my sms notifications although I did have to deselect play sound in sound and notifications and reset then re-select the play sound option. And it worked for me but I have a stock htc tytn II. I am at work on my kaiser at the moment and the browser won't let me add an attachment, so when I get my laptop out at 6 i'll post the .reg entry. Fancy deleting it !! lol.. Check back around 6.30. It'll def be on tonight pal..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

cheers
I know I sound like a dumbo saying that it's deleted.. but ... oh well
thank You again
br
bro

.reg files
Sneeked on!
Here you go mate...

thanks
I tried soft resets just as You did - no luck for me unfortunatelly.
never mind, fix was sweet anyway. I'll try to play with it bit mo.
br
bro

Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?

dis39tif said:
Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?
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The default messaging application remains untouched, especially when installing third party replacements such as SMS threading (IMSMS, Palm, Textr and so on). The default link goes to \Windows\tmail.exe.
The quickest way to do this is by using Resco File Manager. click on the tmail.exe and hold until (right-click) menu appears and click "send to" then choose "Start Menu as Shortcut".
Once this is done you can access it via the start menu or use the button app to map it to a button or use with a today screen plugin (spb etc) As when you install the third party app it either replaces the original shortcut with its own or alters the original link to point to the third party app.
Hope this is of some help...
diigibio (diigimatrix)

Thanks! worked great for me on WM 6.1 I didn't see the active sync option before the restart either.

Gmail IMAP/POP problems

I've tried the seraches, but no cigar...
A strange problem, I've set up my Gmail IMAP account, but when I try to send/receive, it gets stuck on "connecting..." (in the bottom right of the screen), then after about 2 minutes, it times out saying "Messages cannot be downloaded to your device..."
I'm able to connect via wifi flawlessly, so I'm thinking it may be a problem with my carrier (o2 uk)? I can access the internet fine, i can even go onto gmail.com and sign in from there, so I'm really confused...
My settings are as follows:
ROM: Dutty's 6.1
Radio: 1.58.16.27
WAP/GPRS settings:
o2 WAP
Cellular Line (GPRS, 3g)
payandgo.o2.co.uk
I've followed the gmail IMAP setup, checking for any spelling mistakes etc. But I don't think my problem is here, cos I also had this problem when gmail was setup for POP3.
Any help would be appreciated guys/gals.

I'm in the same boat but of a different size. I'm running Dutty's WM6.1 5.2.19199 with radio 1.58.16.27. When i flashed to this rom I hard reset before and after flash and begain to set up my device as normal. When i got to the email portion and set up my gmail accounts and tried to send/receive it does not even try to connect and gives me an error synchronizing. a few seconds afterwards a cannot connect bubble pops up and tells me to change my connection settings. I ran the connection setup that came with the rom and then double checked the settings and they appear no different than before when i could sync with gmail. I can connect to the internet just fine. I have searched(and used the search feature) but have found no answers.

Disregard.
Disregard my post above. Sometimes I'm just stupid.

Audio said:
I've tried the seraches, but no cigar...
A strange problem, I've set up my Gmail IMAP account, but when I try to send/receive, it gets stuck on "connecting..." (in the bottom right of the screen), then after about 2 minutes, it times out saying "Messages cannot be downloaded to your device..."
I'm able to connect via wifi flawlessly, so I'm thinking it may be a problem with my carrier (o2 uk)? I can access the internet fine, i can even go onto gmail.com and sign in from there, so I'm really confused...
My settings are as follows:
ROM: Dutty's 6.1
Radio: 1.58.16.27
WAP/GPRS settings:
o2 WAP
Cellular Line (GPRS, 3g)
payandgo.o2.co.uk
I've followed the gmail IMAP setup, checking for any spelling mistakes etc. But I don't think my problem is here, cos I also had this problem when gmail was setup for POP3.
Any help would be appreciated guys/gals.
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When I had issues with my Sending and Receiving of Email I had to take off any proxies in my 3G Connection.

I had the same error message appear after setting up Gmail IMAP, it turned out to be a spelling error! Now it's working, I can send/recieve fine. Having said that, I can't get Gmail to download any folder content, it only downloads the inbox. I mean, the folders are shown, but there's nothing ever in them. Any ideas?

Off topic slightly, when people send mail through gmail have they notice gmail produces 2 sent messages for the 1 email.
1 has your email the other is blank?

Jygar said:
Off topic slightly, when people send mail through gmail have they notice gmail produces 2 sent messages for the 1 email.
1 has your email the other is blank?
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I also notice 2 email, but both are ok (none is blank).

do you use another account using exchange server??

I have a different issue with gmail maybe someone can help me out. I have two gmail accounts set up and they send and recieve fine the only problem is that the next time is sends/recieves it deletes the previous mail that was there and only downloads new ones. Is there a way to keep all email in my inbox or does it always erase previously downloaded mail and just display new ones. I have it set up to Automatic Send/Receive every 30 minutes and to download All Messages...TIA...

Proxy insight
JimmyMcGee said:
When I had issues with my Sending and Receiving of Email I had to take off any proxies in my 3G Connection.
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I just wanted to thank you for this input. I was really getting frustrated with my first ROM Flash because I couldn't get my gmail to sync. Now its working but I now need to imap configured because it looks like its configured to POP3 automatically. Either way thanks JimmyMcGee

annoying email problem

hey guys, just wondering if anybody else has teh same problem and if theres any fixes....
i have 2 email accounts that download automatically (every hr). i get the new emails, delete them, and an hour later they're downloaded again as new! it gets really annoying! the only way i've found to avoid it most of the time, is to delete the emails, and then hit send recieve... dunno... anybody else?

omaralt said:
hey guys, just wondering if anybody else has teh same problem and if theres any fixes....
i have 2 email accounts that download automatically (every hr). i get the new emails, delete them, and an hour later they're downloaded again as new! it gets really annoying! the only way i've found to avoid it most of the time, is to delete the emails, and then hit send recieve... dunno... anybody else?
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I do not get this problem at all on my Kaiser. You are obviously leaving a copy of you mail on the servers (is that intentional?). I also leave mine on the server so that I can collect it from my PC as the main collection point (which then removes it). However, despite me using the same settings as you I do not see this problem. Have you checked all the advanced settings?
Do you have the deleted items being emptied each time you connect/disconnect? (This is in messaging app - menu-tools-options and the Storage tab) Try looking at this setting - I am just guessing but it may be that your device is emptying the deleted items and so when you next connect it recollects all mail not knowing it was originally put into the deleted items by you?
Just a guess that may be worth looking at .

ekh this problem has gotten even worse now that ive upgraded to dutty's 6.1 rom... now it wont even delete the emails off the server! i delete thee mails, hit send/recieve, and everything seems to be fine. but next time it downloads my email it downloads all the old emails! i've checked all my settings, and everything is right! any ideas? i might just end up going back to a 6.0 rom...

omaralt said:
ekh this problem has gotten even worse now that ive upgraded to dutty's 6.1 rom... now it wont even delete the emails off the server! i delete thee mails, hit send/recieve, and everything seems to be fine. but next time it downloads my email it downloads all the old emails! i've checked all my settings, and everything is right! any ideas? i might just end up going back to a 6.0 rom...
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I have dutty's 6.1 on my kaiser also. No email issues here. I have my kaiser set to delete my mail right off the server, where they go into the servers delete file untill I permanently delete them. I usually keep about 6 months worth in the delete file in case I need to look one up. There is a setting in the kaiser email setup to delete off the server. Is it checked? Sounds like everytime you sync it's sending whatever's there. My sync is set to always on. Maybe that makes a diff.

any more news... Using duttys' too and same probblem... Using godaddy for the server and the emails won't delete off the server..
However outlook on laptop and my old hermies/Tytn-I/8525 running 6.0 works!!!