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MSFP issues with new 2.25 CWS ROM? Am I missing something?

Hey everyone,
I'm new to these boards but have been a long time PDA/phone user. Last night, I downloaded and installed the 2.25 ROM for my Cingular 8125 device and setup my Exchange account.
I have an MS Exchange 2003 SP2 mailbox and setup Direct Push, but the e-mails still take a minute or two to get to me when a Blackberry or GoodLink take about 15 seconds. It seems that the Exchange server just pushes out an IP packet to my phone to make it go through the [seemingly wasteful] process of performing an ActiveSync operation. So constantly my connection arrows are alternating between "connected" and "ActiveSyncing." To me, it's almost as slow as the old SMS push-pull method.
Furthermore, it seems that (a) my ability to sync my subfolders is gone. Previously, I could select folders to sync to my device from my device. Now, I can select all my folders, but they are all empty (except my Inbox). If I go to Menu -> Tools, the "Manage Folders" option is greyed out. I cannot tap and hold a folder to sync it. And (b), the option to manually "send/receive" is also greyed out. If I turn DirectPush off (which I do at night to prevent receiving my emails), I have to open the ActiveSync application to get my e-mail instead of previously being able to tap Menu -> Send/Receive from the Messaging program.
Is this normal? Are these the results that others are seeing from MSFP? Finally, are there any other noteworthy improvements in this ROM other than MSFP? If this is the case, and there are no other improvements, wouldn't it behoove me to revert back to the previous ROM?
Thank you in advance for you help and insight!
-M-

The messaging app can switch between SMS, Email and MMS. You can switch it by press Email button on top left corner or by changing accounts in menu. Sounds like all you issue is related to the fact that your messaging app is currently in other accounts like SMS or MMS.

foxbat121 said:
The messaging app can switch between SMS, Email and MMS. You can switch it by press Email button on top left corner or by changing accounts in menu. Sounds like all you issue is related to the fact that your messaging app is currently in other accounts like SMS or MMS.
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Foxbat,
Thank you, but I am in the Outlook E-mail account. I'm pretty savvy about these things to know at least that much!
I'm still not able to manage my folders or manually send and receive and I still feel like there's a longer lag time than Blackberry or GoodLink.
Are you using the MSFP ROM with an Exchange 2003 SP2 account? If so, what are your experiences?
Thanks again!

Yes, I'm using MSFP on 2.17 ROM right now. I have none of your issues.

i can just say that it doesn't sound like the MSFP is actually working in your case. Once i switched to directpush, my messages are on my phone within 5 seconds, no activesync whatsoever. same for calendar, tasks and contacts.
i have a tmo blackberry and a tmo mda - i tested sending messages to both at the same time, on average the mda receives the message about 1 second later than the blackberry - an extrememly nice improvement.

The send/receive option in Outlook account is always greyed out, you can only receive email there by syncing or push mail. there is a thread on this on this forum, called Pocket Outlook Account is worthless or something like that.

Koksie said:
The send/receive option in Outlook account is always greyed out, you can only receive email there by syncing or push mail. there is a thread on this on this forum, called Pocket Outlook Account is worthless or something like that.
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Wrong. It works just fine all the time for me in 2.17 ROM and 2.24 ROM (I skipped the worthless 2.25 Cingular ROM). I don't know what's wrong with OP's issue. Maybe he should re-examine the settings or do a hard reset.

I had a similar problem when I updated my ROM. Send/recieve and Manage Folders was greyed out. I fixed it by deleting the sync to my exchange and re-adding it through active sync on my PC. From active sync on the PC double click Exchange server. Click the "delete server" button. Wait for it to sync and remove all your emails from the phone. Then go Tools > Configure Server Source and add it back in. This worked for me.
If that doesn't work, you can select folders in active sync. That also worked for me before I deleted and re-added my exchange. Not as handy as being able to do it from the phone though.
edit: oops. old thread. Is it 2007 already? :O Oh well, the info may help someone...

peon said:
edit: oops. old thread. Is it 2007 already? :O Oh well, the info may help someone...
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It's helped me! Thank you so much peon!

Email disapears after few day

I'm new to the mobile phones using windows. But untill now i'm almost compleetly happy with the TyTNII.
The problem i'm having is that emails older than 3days are suddenly gone missing in my inbox . I can't seem to find any setting dialog where i can change this. Mayby i have to set something in the registry but i don't know what . So i'm hoping that someone can and will help.
I've tried to delete the account and after rebooting creating a new one but the problem still remains.

If you are using push or imap it is a settign in your server config for how many days of email to show.

No i'm using pop3 in both cases.

Raymongo said:
No i'm using pop3 in both cases.
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There's a setting, it lets you choose how many days of email to keep on our phone. It's default to 3 or 4. Thissetting applies to any POP or IMAP mail accounts, whether you are using push or on-demand email retrieval. Go to your email account on the phone, and select menu|tools|options or soemthing like that. choose the account, and edit the settings for it (it like a few pages into the "setup wizard" for the account)...

Go to Start-Programs-Messaging-menu-options-tap on your email name in the box-next-next-next-next-next-and finally the drop down menu under Download messages.

First of all i would like to thank you for your advise but i've been looking for such a setting myself and could not find it. Not even under the advanced button!
the only setting witch has something with day is :
Download messages from the past xx days or all messages.
As i understand it this has to with downloading and not with messages already downloaded right?

That is the setting. Perhaps it's poorly worded. but if you say "download emails from the last 3 days", then it will remove emails from your phone that are older than 3 days. So as time goes by, messages that download one day will be removed from the phone 3 days later. They don't get "deleted" from you rmail system, just removed from your phone.

It's a strange way to name a setting like this indeed. But i think i get it now and i'll go for the setting all messages than. I want to controlle the way wich email to keep and wich not!
Thank alot for your help

Gmail push mail thoughts.

OK folks, does anyone have any recommendations for Gmail push mail for the Kaiser?
Gmail App: Either adding this to your phone, or using it online on your phone seems to work well, but, unless I'm an idiot, there is no push--you have to check your e-mail manually. That kinda kills it.
emoze: http://www.emoze.com/en/get/index.asp. This is a neat little app that you install on your phone, and it seems to log you into a server that checks your Gmail (or Yahoo, whatever) and then pushes whatever it finds there to your phone. However, this seems relatively buggy and unreliable. One, if it works when you send an email, not long after it will download that sent email to your phone and tell you you have an email. Two, it wants to fiddle with your activesync settings which don't seem to work too well.
mobiPush: At http://www.mobiPush.com. Well, this seems unreliable, or at least, slow as hell. Now, being used to text messages, maybe the speed is normal for push mail, I don't know. Oddly enough, it won't connect to the internet when I have my USB cable plugged in, even though I have "Allow wireless connections" checked in activesync.
mail2web live: http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/. I have no idea, I haven't tried it.
Does anyone have any thoughts on these? Other suggestions? Want to point out my glaring errors? Feel free, and thanks!

Do you have issues w/ Imap? I have mine setup to check every 15 or 30 minutes and only keep 3 days of messages on my phone so it doesn't get too cluttered. I dont have the issue of sending an email and having the sent message show up as new when using this manner either. Just a thought/suggestion.

My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.

Seven
http://community.seven.com/main.php
this pushes email great for me

fiddelm3742 said:
Do you have issues w/ Imap? I have mine setup to check every 15 or 30 minutes and only keep 3 days of messages on my phone so it doesn't get too cluttered. I dont have the issue of sending an email and having the sent message show up as new when using this manner either. Just a thought/suggestion.
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I just found that and set it up, thank you!
What I'm trying to avoid is having the phone check for email, and it seems that with Gmail IMAP you have to tell the phone to check at whatever intervals you want.

redsrule2500 said:
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
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Where exactly do you see this option?

redsrule2500 said:
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
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When you say it's "an option in Gmail you have to set," can you be more specific?
It seems that by setting up IMAP the phone has to check, Gmail isn't pushing mail to the phone automatically, is it? There doesn't seem to be a reason for the phone to check if Gmail is pushing.
Thoughts? And thank you!

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Where exactly do you see this option?
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I second that.
What the 2 guys before me said.

Gmail itself seems curiously silent about this one. Especially because it would be a MASSIVE boon to their business...
Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?

rush242 said:
mobiPush: At http://www.mobiPush.com. Well, this seems unreliable, or at least, slow as hell. Now, being used to text messages, maybe the speed is normal for push mail, I don't know. Oddly enough, it won't connect to the internet when I have my USB cable plugged in, even though I have "Allow wireless connections" checked in activesync.
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As it turns out, the USB issue was a different issue all together. That's just Activesync being kinda crappy. D'oh!
That doesn't make mobiPush suddenly awesome, just that it had nothing to do with them. Heh.

what about Flexmail? It has IMAP IDLE support which will function like push email. If you set up the Gmail IMAP account under the program, it should automatically notify you when new emails are received.

Check the Hacking and Development area for ImapPusherService. I haven't gotten it to work on mine yet, but others have had good success. It isn't perfect, but as long as you don't SR very often it should work no problem. Downside, if you do a SR you have to relaunch the program and reenter your username and password.

I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
BTW Seven in my experience is poor. Use it if you want an email client that doesn't push but simply checks for email every 5 minutes and takes up memory. Oh wait. pocket outlook does this without taking up extra memory!

cheese74 said:
what about Flexmail? It has IMAP IDLE support which will function like push email. If you set up the Gmail IMAP account under the program, it should automatically notify you when new emails are received.
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to check into this, as it ain't free. I must say that gives me a bit more confidence as I bought Pocket Informant recently. That program goes a bit overboard, but it does what they say it will do.
Gracias.

knmwt15000 said:
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
BTW Seven in my experience is poor. Use it if you want an email client that doesn't push but simply checks for email every 5 minutes and takes up memory. Oh wait. pocket outlook does this without taking up extra memory!
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what do you mean check for email every 5 minutes? seven isn't push?

Why use an app? go to your Gmail page and enable pop ( under settings ) Works great for me. I have mine saving 1 weeks worth of emails on the phone, automatically downloading all attachments, as well as updating every 5 minutes.... Never had an issue. I use my gmail rather than my blackberry email from work because the Kaiser handles mail SOOOOOO much better with attachments.

I am using Flexmail as well and found it the best solution so far for push Gmail. Setup was relatively easy and I like the advanced folder management options that Flexmail provides. Also, html formatting is a big plus.
I tried Seven, mobipush, emoze, and mail2web. All of them had some disadvantages such as bulky background client, slow receive/send, instability with other apps, and 3rd party reply-to address (mail2web). Flexmail is well worth the cost as it connects to the Gmail imap servers directly and I typically receive emails in my phone within 10 seconds of it actually appearing on Gmail web-mail.

hjlow said:
what do you mean check for email every 5 minutes? seven isn't push?
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In my experience it is not. I set it up and intermittently sent test emails to my address. Got new mail exactly every 5 mins....

knmwt15000 said:
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
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Thanks for the heads up on this one. As a plus: it's Free, and that's brilliant. It's small, doesn't use up much space, memory, et cetera. However, it only seems to work intermittently, and that's just not worth the trouble.

posted in DCD'd Titan Rom 3.2.5 ROM as well....
Don't know where the error is. Reflashed 3.2.5 three times, same error. Just to put it out there.... anyone using the beta program Seven for pushing email?
Gmail worked before but will not connect from the Gmail shortcut from the login screen. Yahoo and Hotmail shortcuts work fine. Went in to "Other Pop Accounts" and added Gmail there and worked fine.
Note: No issues at all regarding this with 3.2.3

Cannot Send email without deleting account first!

I have an amazingly annoying problem whereby I set my email account up on my Kaiser and it works perfectly for a few days sending email, then all of a suddenly stops sending email, giving me the message about network coverage and checking your settings. The ONLY way I can fix it is delete the account from the phone, then recreate it again – using EXACTLY the same settings. Again the account will send email without a problem for a couple of days (using the SMTP server smtp.t-email.co.uk on T-Mobile in the UK) then fail again.
Has anyone come across this before as its driving me crackers now
Thanks

Same problem here...
That's funny, I thought it was just me. I have gotten really good at setting up my account again. I thought it was ROM specific, but have had it happen on other rom's. I use gmail which needs secure data connection. Do you use something else?

Oddly enough, I have both a gmail account set up (although I never use this to send email) and a pop3 email account from my ISP which is causing me all the problems!

Are you using an IMAP account by any chance?
I noticed I would have similar trouble with mine, and it happens if I try to delete a message or otherwise move one between folders.
The first time this happened I went the delete/readd account path as well, but the second time I managed to link it to the fact I had just deleted a message. I brought the message back from the trash can to where it was initially, and the account would sync again.
oops - just reread and noticed your problem was sending, mine was the whole send/receive process that would fail. Still leaving here in case it can lead to something...

So then, this has worked 100% for the past 9 days and now its happened again. I haven't changed anything on my phone. Do I have to delete the account and lose all my messages AGAIN!?

Do some searching -- this sounds like the email issue that Microsoft issued a fix for a few months back

I have saerched and found threads on several boards aabout this problem. none of which contain a solution!

Just to update...Flashed to a brand new ROM (NGY Professional 1.2), email has worked for 2 weeks and the problem has hit again - cannot send email until I delete the account!

Sounds like its fragile to stress and makes it hang on certain job making it loop working out the last string. I am not sure but perhaps sending is in que and it tries to look for deleted/moved data and wount proceed forward. However I would make a backup of my mail then delete all (in/out) then see if it picks up the pace. Then I would try to work it and see whats bugging it, by that I mean send/recieve, move/delete, quit/restart -> synch +++ Dropp a comment on youre observations, perhaps we/me/someone get a more clear image of youre issue and can solve/explain this issue.

Link to Windows Mobile 6.1 Hot Fix for Sending POP and IMAP E-mail
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I have saerched and found threads on several boards aabout this problem. none of which contain a solution!
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Well you didn't search enough because the last time I replied to a thread about this problem I included a link to the download page. Open wide for the spoon feeding - Windows Mobile 6.1 Hot Fix for Sending POP and IMAP E-mail

Flying Kiwi said:
Well you didn't search enough because the last time I replied to a thread about this problem I included a link to the download page. Open wide for the spoon feeding - Windows Mobile 6.1 Hot Fix for Sending POP and IMAP E-mail
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Thanks for the response (and sarcasm!), but it wont install - the phone just reboots during the attempted installation...

LDJ said:
Thanks for the response (and sarcasm!), but it wont install - the phone just reboots during the attempted installation...
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It's annoying when it's a known issue and someone even prompts you so (burtcom). xda-dev is meant to be more of a self help forum so going over old ground is not good. The update worked with the UK WM 6.1 HTC ROM release (although hardly anything else did) so unless you're wanting to go back to the official ROM, you'll need to see what people in the thread related to the custom ROM you're using, have to say about it.
Good luck and I'll try not to be scarcastic next time if you take prompts to search for the answer because it's already been discussed, more seriously.

Help please? Nexus 1 Email troubles

Hello, I really need some help with some email problems here with my nexus 1 (att 3g vers).
It has NOT been rooted, and has android 2.2 installed (prefer to not root btw).
Anyway, the problem is in regard to the android EMAIL app (don't know it's name, but it's the icon of the envelope and yellow @ symbol in it).
I've set it up to handle my other email accounts (comcast and godaddy accounts) - not Gmail. Everything is setup finally and working fine...but for one problem...
once an email arrives, i get the notification...go to read it, BUT - then after reading it...it's then moved to the trash automatically (the trash in the email app that is, it's not removed from the server.
Driving me nuts - it's no longer in the inbox area of the email app, for each and every account). Each email just automatically disappears (goes to the trash) upon my reading it one time.
I can go to the trash folder and read, but this is ridiculous...shouldn't I be the one moving emails to the trash?
Can anyone suggest a fix here, or know of anything I can do to stop this?
I see no settings to change this...it's a serious bug.
Or...is there a better email app (one like this, as I do like the look and feel of this one built into android 2.2) that I should be using?
I downloaded K-9 email (but really hate it's look, feel and operation compared to this one).
Maybe there is something I'm not getting here though and need to change?
It's very strange that ea email would move to the trash upon 1st reading it.
thanks for any help here

also, i have tried searching this site for this problem with zero luck...
but i can't be the only one seeing this issue, right?
again: these accounts are my comcast and godaddy email accounts (not gmail, hotmail, etc).
thanks again

sorry man, I tried looking at my settings to see if theres anything I can suggest. Nada...

update to my Q:
Ok, doyeee
I think I know what's going on....
I was just setting comcast and godaddy accounts up and had the the email apps open on my PC at the same time while running tests.
When I did email tests, and having the PC email apps open for the same accounts...after they download to the PC is when they will go to the trash on the nexus email (not staying in INBOX on nexus when the PC email app has downloaded them).
This might be standard (I don't know as this is finally the first phone able to handle emails like this.
Hmm, i'd sure prefer it if all emails could remain in the inbox (or some other folder other than trash) as I can't hit "reply" once they're in the trash should I later want to reply to the same email with more info later on mobile.