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Recommendations for good IMAP email client???

I know this is not the place to ask this question, but you guys are experts and I would think you would have the best answer to this question. I need an email client for an IMAP server with TLS...actually it's a Cyrus IMAP server running on SuSE 9.0. Outlook is alright, but I can't just send an email, rather I have to send and receive at the same time. I've tried WebIS mail, but it seems to be really slow.
What are you folks using?
Thanks,
Tom

ProfiMail 2.24 from LonelyCatGames
http://www.lonelycatgames.com

Thanks! I've downloaded it and am going to try it out.
Tom

BeyondtheTech said:
ProfiMail 2.24 from LonelyCatGames
http://www.lonelycatgames.com
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So I have it working. I setup a Rule not to download mail over 2 days old, but it still wants to download my 3300+ emails in my IMAP Inbox. I've read the manual, but can't figure out how to overcome this. Any thoughts? If you want to PM me, feel free.
Tom

Use WEbIS mail 2.11 or Q Mail.....I use Q-Mail....it is the best.....tried Profimail but no good as compared to these.

Hi
As we seem to have warmed up the mail topic is there any solution to an old problem of mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=80049#80049

MDAIIIUser,
A simple solution to your problem is a carrier pigeon. Hahahahaha. oooh, too much coffee.
I found that an IMAP email service works best. I use linuxmail.org. If offers great spam filtering (sometimes too good) and since they offer IMAP as well as POP (which I never use) I can get the same mail at my office, home, PDA, brother's house, guest computer....anywhere. Dump the activesync and outlook/smtp idea and try imap. Linuxmail.org, also has the ability to check POP servers for mail.
I just thought having an imap server might work better for you than regular POP. Linuxmail.org is $25/year, but I'm sure there are others.
Tom

Tom
Do I read you in the way that linuxmail.org will pick up my mail at pop.mypopmail.com and I will pick up this mail from them, thus I keep [email protected].
You see I am not looking for a [email protected]
dig ? or was that to short?

MDAIIIUser said:
Tom
Do I read you in the way that linuxmail.org will pick up my mail at pop.mypopmail.com and I will pick up this mail from them, thus I keep [email protected].
You see I am not looking for a [email protected]
dig ? or was that to short?
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Oh, I dig Honeybunny. I'm totally down with that. Yo, yo... (I really need to stop drinking so much coffee).
Linuxmail.org (or others...I just run Linux hence my reason for this) can go out, pick up my email from gmail, yahoo, (not sure about hotmail...rememeber linux-user) and put it into my Linuxmail account. Since you're using an STMP account from say, Google, you can always sendmail thru that service. Check on Linuxmail, send on Google. The only downside with that is you won't be able to keep a copy of your sent mail on your IMAP.
This company looks pretty good too: http://1300.runbox.com/ I might test them out, but I don't want to ditch my linuxmail account. Take a look at them.
Tom

One other quick note...for work, we have an IMAP server and I have a Tmobile account for email as well. When I'm traveling (I'll be in the UK June 19th if anyone wants to get together) I can get email from my IMAP server and I will send via my Tmobile account. Tmo has a feature where you specify your email (say, acme.com) and when I send mail on my i-mate it goes thru the Tmo service, but you would see it as [email protected] instead of [email protected]. Its pretty cool.
I'm not too keen on Messaging because it won't allow me to send without receiving first....which is just really, really stupid. I use WebIS Mail to just shoot out an email to someone via the Tmo service. WebIS Mail has got it's own set of issues that I'm trying to deal with now.
Food for thought. Feel free to PM me if you want. I can call ya too.
Tom

hmmmm, I have solved it in a different way ...
mostly due to often accessing my mail from different locations and at the same time willing to keep my mail in one place safe, easy for download ...... I decided to invest in piece of hardware called Linux based Toshiba Magnia SG20 being among other very clever email server for both POP3 and IMAP mail service, ok it was an expense .... but finally now I can access my mail from virtually everywhere and have my mail traffic and storage off the computer I currently use, I can download necessary mail and respond easily, synchronization is no longer an issue with WebIS Mail ;-))

I made my work's IMAP server from an PIII800, 40GB drive, and 1GB RAM. I installed SuSE 9.0 and Cyrus IMAP, Postfix, spamassassin, Sendmail, etc... Cost=$90 and I can access it from anywhere in the world. The computer was an employee's computer which was upgraded. I was going to toss it, but decided to make a mailserver out of it. SuSE was already installed on my work computer, so it really didn't cost me much.
I have to admit, the Toshiba looks interesting. Too bad they don't make it anymore.
While I can take a new Mini Mac and do the same thing for about $500 on a personal level, it's really not worth spending that much time for a personal email server. I'm happy with third party providers.
WebIS is still not running well, so I dumped it and I'm sticking with Messaging. I tried ProfiMail and that had some drawbacks as well.
Tom

Boys and thier toys, 1 gig memory, bit of overkill or not. <Grin>.
Sure its a solution, ms exchange with active sync would work fine for me to, oh yes and my own domain, mx record and a fix ip.... but...
Not all of use are teck heads. No offence but should there not be a solution for say USD 29.95.
Anyway Webis lets you move sent items to a different folder (as in to the active sync folder). Now will have to play with that, work out how to set webis as default mail app. I have now set up up a pop account/folder and that option has gone. Find my sms and waste a lot of time to end up junking it. Oh well what else to do untill a new rom comes out. Still think it sucks unless you are a corparate user with all that nice infra.
Thanks tom

Could someone recommend me an email client that does imap and it's posibble to set on which days of the week from when till when and how often to check for mail automatically?

MDAIIIUser said:
Sure its a solution, ms exchange with active sync would work fine for me to, oh yes and my own domain, mx record and a fix ip.... but...
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Instead of a fixed IP, you could run DynDNS like I do. It tracks your current IP and reroutes everything to your computer. I have cable internet, so my IP changes every couple months, or after a power outage. Your DNS and MX would point to DynDNS and DynDNS would route folks to you. It's a pretty sweet setup.
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Not all of use are teck heads. No offence but should there not be a solution for say USD 29.95.
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I completely agree...about the tech heads. Someone should make something more simple, but I think the expense would be too high since it entails a complete computer system. Linux has an email server built into it while Windows does not, but then you have downsides to using Linux as well.
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Anyway Webis lets you move sent items to a different folder (as in to the active sync folder). Now will have to play with that, work out how to set webis as default mail app. I have now set up up a pop account/folder and that option has gone. Find my sms and waste a lot of time to end up junking it. Oh well what else to do untill a new rom comes out. Still think it sucks unless you are a corparate user with all that nice infra.
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I rarely use Activesync so setting up my email for that is pointless. When I want to send an email, I want to send it now...not when I can get to my computer to run activesync. You should try finding a email company that has an IMAP server. Once you have that, you'll never want POP again.
Tom

bolasz said:
Could someone recommend me an email client that does imap and it's posibble to set on which days of the week from when till when and how often to check for mail automatically?
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If you're talking about doing it on your pda, it's not going to happen. You can set email programs to check every x minutes, but that's about it. If you have your gprs on 24 hours a day, then it might be possible, but otherwise I don't see this as an option with the 3 email programs I've played with (Messaging, WebIS Mail, ProfiMail).
Tom

Ok, so I up the e-mail stream without a paddle.
BTW, The Activesyn I only use to get the contents of my mail box of my Laptop and on to my device. I send mail over wifi on the pop acoount (then have to copy the sent item to the activesycn folder, then sync to get it on the laptop)
I was aware about the DynDNS, won't help my much live between to families, two households and the only thing fixed in my life is the tel number of my Phone and the fact I have a laptop, so no space for hardware that cant be baged in a minute.
So Looks like I need to get my own mymail.com address and some hosting that gives me IMAP.
With all that done still have not found a good E-mail client. (q-mail?)
What was the thread on that subject ???? <GRIN>

Email anytiMe is possible.
yes! Download email any day and anytime without gprs on is possible. Use npop freeware and set it to download email upon execution theN use powerstart Shareware to schedule it to exeCute npop at any day and what time as you like. it will Connect gprs then download then disconnect, perfect!

testdebug
Googled Powerstart and got to many hits, have a homepage were I read what the app does? Found npop.

testdebug,
Keep in mind the question was IMAP, not POP. Will it work on IMAP?
Thanks,
Tom

Push Email

Afternoon,
I finally got round to setting up my gmail account on my vario 3 and actually using it to send and receive emails etc but there is a small problem...
I have set it up to heck from mail every five minutes automatically....however, it doesnt seem to work...i think i have narrowed it down to power settings...
I have the backlight to go off after 10 secs and teh "turn off device" after 1 minute.
After that minute, the pulse that checks for mail doent run untill i do something with the phone to wake it out of standbye...
Is there a fix available for this other than modify my power settings (which i would prefer not to do)
TIA
Matt

nevawlkalone said:
Is there a fix available for this other than modify my power settings (which i would prefer not to do)
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Not sure I understand fully but if you want it to truely receive push email, then the data connection must be active all the time... and that uses power, lots of it. When you think about it this makes sense because how is the phone going to know when a new email comes in unless it's constantly connected to the internet. I had this setup with my Hotmail account after someone here told me how to do so but reverted back to only checking manually when I wanted it to after I found the battery life fell through the floor. You could make sure other things like bluetooth and wifi are turned off when not being used to maximise a charge but even just having data on all the time makes quite a difference.

from what i understand of push email, it uses a pulse to connect to the net, check for mail and then disconnect again...i have always had my internet connected on my vario and never noticed a increase in battery life when i have spent days without it off (on holiday)
is there not a way to make the 5 minute pulse ignore the screen being turned off?

Window Mobile Push Mail requires an Exchange Server (2003 or 2007 flavor) on the other end.
Without that your just using scheduled pull mail.
The heartbeat/pulse whatever you want to call it does continue to work when the device is in standby if you are using true push mail.

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Window Mobile Push Mail requires an Exchange Server (2003 or 2007 flavor) on the other end.
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Do you know if that includes Hotmail? If its set up right, my Hotmail emails will be received pretty much instantaneously. Maybe they use Exchange Servers - I don't know if these can be configured for HTTP mail? Even when I had that configured though I still didn't get the Com Manager Microsoft Direct Push Icon to jump to life (it's always been grey).

Flying Kiwi said:
Do you know if that includes Hotmail? If its set up right, my Hotmail emails will be received pretty much instantaneously. Maybe they use Exchange Servers - I don't know if these can be configured for HTTP mail? Even when I had that configured though I still didn't get the Com Manager Microsoft Direct Push Icon to jump to life (it's always been grey).
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@hotmail and @live use M$ Direct push, if you set it up for " as they arrive " emails. They do this however by keeping your phone constantly connected = kill battery. I had to shut my push email off to get a full 8hrs out of my battery.

Seven Push Email
Hey maybe you can try this little app called Seven from seven systems. It provides free true push email to WinMo environments. You can configure many accounts for example from hotmail, yahoo, gmail and others. There is a beta that is completely free of charge. Ive been using it for quite a while now (WinMo and Symbian) and Im very pleassed with its performance. Check it out here http://www.seven.com/ and go to the beta program section to download it.

denco7 said:
@hotmail and @live use M$ Direct push, if you set it up for " as they arrive " emails. They do this however by keeping your phone constantly connected = kill battery. I had to shut my push email off to get a full 8hrs out of my battery.
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Thats what I've tried in the past and certainly the emails arrive pretty quickly. I don't know if its genuine Push Email or just polling really often though. It also doesn't explain why the Microsoft Push Email icon in Com Manager never does anything other than sit there greyed out.

Flying Kiwi said:
Thats what I've tried in the past and certainly the emails arrive pretty quickly. I don't know if its genuine Push Email or just polling really often though. It also doesn't explain why the Microsoft Push Email icon in Com Manager never does anything other than sit there greyed out.
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That highlights when you have a proper exchange account attached for push emial therefore isnt activated when google and hotmail are set up.
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that 5 minute setting is not called "pushmail". it's calles "i'll ddos my mailserver by asking for mails every 5 minutes"
there are several free pushmail provider arround www.mail2web.com is one of them. they offer a completely free exchange 2003 account with active sync for contacts, tasks, calendar and pushmail

I find that the Windows Live 'As items arrive' option works well, though this seems to be pulling at high frequencies to provide the illusion of Push e-mail. I used to experience temperamental service but now it works flawlessly - as well as friends' blackberry devices. I don't have to keep my phone signed in to Messenger which is often advised to maintain a consistent delivery of e-mails.
I set up the Blackberry Connect service (£5/month) with T-Mobile UK but immediately reverted to using Windows Live (which is free given that you have a data connection) as the BB Connect service acts as a middleman, while Windows Live connects directly (or appears to) to your Hotmail inbox. Messages you read or mark as unread will be viewed as read/unread in your mailbox via a PC, folders can be synched and sent items are synchronised. Perfect for me. The only problem is reduced battery life.
For anyone who tried to use Windows Live 'Push' e-mail and found it to be inconsistent, see here: http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/Connection/forums/t/2134.aspx.

I was always wondering about the battery too.
So I did a power drain test...
Hope this link helps!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185860

Sprint - Push E-mail options

Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
I am currently using Comcast, and was considering going the Mail2Web route, but it seemed too confusing...I know, I'm a moron. (As for "Seven", I've heard it's not yet stable and it severly taxes the battery.) As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.

Try seven.com you'll love it.

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Try seven.com you'll love it.
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LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.

WildAce786 said:
LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
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Although it is still in a beta stage I don't think it unstable at all and emails at least for me being pushed from gmail come within 2 seconds. I can't disagree that it will take a toll on your battery but that's the price we pay for push email. If anyone has any other suggestions I'd also be glad to know.

WildAce786 said:
Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
.... As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
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I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up

steb0ne said:
I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
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I would like to keep 3rd party sources as a second option.
First, I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook has the ability to Push E-mail to the TP without severly draining the battery.
Now, if that is not an option, then I would like some clarification on the Mail2Web process.
1) Do I need to register with mail2web first?
2) When you said
go to Activesync and add a server
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, where exactly is Activesync located and how can I go about adding a server to it?
I know I sound like a moron, but that's because in this matter, I am.

another option is EMOZE. Its a good alternative to seven if you just care about emails. it really dont do the contacts too well and calendar not at all. again good app if you just care about getting your gmail emails....

Well, after a lot of searching, I went ahead with steb0ne's idea of using Mail2Web LIVE. So far it works great, especially since I've set all my comcast e-mails to autoforward to the M2W account so I can receive them "instantly" as well.
I do have a few concerns though that maybe a few of you guys can address:
1) How does Direct Push actually work? Does it establish a connection every so often looking for new messages?
2) Generally speaking, how much battery life does it drain during the course of a normal 8-hour day if I keep Direct Push active in the Comm. Manager?
3) How good is M2W at keeping SPAM messages away?

I have used seven, mail2web, and the sprint mobile email app. I prefer mail2web over the others. The sprint app is based on the seven email program, but only allows for one email address.
With the seven program I have noticed a noticeable lag in receiving my email. I have sent an email to the an account, received in on my desktop and still dont get it for up to 10min on my phone. With Mail2web I usually get it on my phone before the computer, also the online system they use will save all of your contacts, calender so you can access it from your phone or computer, as well as have an easy backup if you lose your phone, or do a hard reset.

So if I use seven, which they and Sprint say my TP is not supported, does it still send from my email addy or some seven.com email?
for me its all but useless to just get email if I cant send it.

when i try to set up active sync i put details in , user pass server, there is a field "domain" which i cannot get past unless i put something in it , trying to use mobipush and their directions are to leave domain blank but if i do i cant progress on my screen the next button wont highlight, any ideas

How to push email

I've been pulling my hair out looking around for how exactly to have emails pushed to the G1. I have both K9 Email for Yahoo and the stock Gmail app for Gmail that I'm trying to get it pushed on.
How the hell do I get this working?? I see no options ANYWHERE to do it, but upon Googling it, everyone seems all happy and excited that it -can- push emails. But, NONE OF THESE PLACES EXPLAINS HOW! I don't care if they're glad it can or not, I want to know HOW to do it. Google themselves don't even mention it.
Can somebody please explain how to push emails before I lose my mind and possibly all my hair??
Thanks in advance

what the hell are you talking about?
You automatically get all emails from the account you registered your g1 with pushed to your device if u did not manually disable it in settings. Via thhe mentioned G(oogle)Mail application!

You can also use the suppiled email app that comes pre installed on the phone. Works with all the major emails except those from an exchange server.

That mail isn't exactly pushed, from what I understand pushed emails to be. Pushed is immediately sending a notification once email is received, the one in Google mail and K-9 has timed when it checks the source email.

Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
How shall it technical work to push something to your device ? It is impossible .. The intervalls for sms/calls are just much shorter.. thats why mobiles drain so much battery even in standby.. and the intervall for gmail to check new emails is shorter than 1minute .. i dunno how much is it but it's near to instant

Proxin said:
I've been pulling my hair out looking around for how exactly to have emails pushed to the G1. I have both K9 Email for Yahoo and the stock Gmail app for Gmail that I'm trying to get it pushed on.
How the hell do I get this working?? I see no options ANYWHERE to do it, but upon Googling it, everyone seems all happy and excited that it -can- push emails. But, NONE OF THESE PLACES EXPLAINS HOW! I don't care if they're glad it can or not, I want to know HOW to do it. Google themselves don't even mention it.
Can somebody please explain how to push emails before I lose my mind and possibly all my hair??
Thanks in advance
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You do have an exchange account? POP3/web mail can't be pushed
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
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yes they are...

Proxin said:
That mail isn't exactly pushed, from what I understand pushed emails to be. Pushed is immediately sending a notification once email is received, the one in Google mail and K-9 has timed when it checks the source email.
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The GMail client does not "check" the source email, it uses a proprietary version of IMAP IDLE (push) technology. It is indeed pushed to your phone, when "Sync" is enabled. However, K9 and the stock email app do not provide IMAP IDLE support at this time, so there is no way to set that up. K9 has it on the To-Do list. I don't know about you, but the instant my account that is set up with the Gmail client on the phone gets an email - my phone notifies me, sometimes it is faster then a desktop client. And, I assure you that it is not constantly sending out requests checking in for mail on the server, that would be poor coding on Google's part and waste a lot of their resources.
So, to answer your concerns directly.
The GMail client IS what is referred to as "Push" email.
The K9 and stock Email clients are currently not capable of "Push" email.

bassbox said:
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
How shall it technical work to push something to your device ? It is impossible .. The intervalls for sms/calls are just much shorter.. thats why mobiles drain so much battery even in standby.. and the intervall for gmail to check new emails is shorter than 1minute .. i dunno how much is it but it's near to instant
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How about doing some reading before sticking your foot further into your throat.
IMAP IDLE - how it works.
It is very efficient.

"This means that an active client will always be kept up to date. The IDLE command deals with the situation where the client has no more requests to make. The server responds to the idle command when there is a new message (or messages) which indicates to the client that there are new messages. "
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..

bassbox said:
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
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You're still looking for a clue, almost getting there
In case of push mail your phone does NOT poll for new mails: The mailserver will notify your phone when new mail is available. Yes your phone sends an idle command, but nothing happens after that: The connection is just left open and when there is new mail the server will send it.

bassbox said:
"This means that an active client will always be kept up to date. The IDLE command deals with the situation where the client has no more requests to make. The server responds to the idle command when there is a new message (or messages) which indicates to the client that there are new messages. "
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
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I think you are grasping the concept, but the semantics are lost on you.
It works like this:
1. Client connects to server, does it's initial check-in, and handles new requests.
2. Client sends IDLE command to server, telling the server that it is still active, but not actively sending requests.
3. Client sits IDLE (no more data is transmitted from client to server unless an action takes place on the CLIENT requiring transmission - ie, an email is sent).
4. Server receives a new message.
5. Server sends a packet to the Client (knowing where it is located based on the open - yet IDLE connection).
6. Client responds to the packet and is subsequently transmitted the message.
See how many times I used the word IDLE - get the picture? As long as you know what IDLE means, you will understand how efficient this is. Here is a quote from that page I posted a link to:
Phone. For older phones there could be an issue of increased battery usage due to holding the connection open. This is unlikely to be a problem on a modern phone.
Another practical problem is that current phone networking technology will lose IP network connectivity from time to time, and this will need to be automatically re-established, and the IMAP connection re-established if this is lost due to a long network failure.
In summary, the overall IMAP IDLE architecture has good performance.
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Whoo HOO! Another GIRL on the forum! Go ZEE ZEE! And, she's CUTE, too!
Anyway, back to the subject at hand.
Proxin - I believe (although I could be wrong) what is going on is that you don't have the Gmail as your primary mail account - the one that everyone sends email to.
I only lately began to use Gmail. So, I have three email addresses that are set to forward to the Gmail account. The time it takes for these email to be forwarded and received by Gmail is the only lag I experience at all.
If you are using Gmail's "fetcher" feature to fetch email from other accounts... I have seen up to 30 minutes before each "fetch." So, it can take awhile. In which case I suggest that you go to any primary accounts that you have and set them to forward your email to your Google account and see if that decreases the delay.

Touchdown by exchange is the best email push app on g1 currently. But its not free . if u wanna sync contacts u can do that during the trial period
I just got my g1 Monday and all my contacts were on a server and I was discouraged that I could sync google or my g1 contacts with the exchange server. I then tested every app in the marketplace i could find and couldn't get any to sync contacts except Touchdown.
ExchangeIt worked fine after I figured out how to use it. Most of the other apps only work for Microsoft Server 2007 so they weren't compatible.

B-Eazy said:
Touchdown by exchange is the best email push app on g1 currently. But its not free . if u wanna sync contacts u can do that during the trial period
I just got my g1 Monday and all my contacts were on a server and I was discouraged that I could sync google or my g1 contacts with the exchange server. I then tested every app in the marketplace i could find and couldn't get any to sync contacts except Touchdown.
ExchangeIt worked fine after I figured out how to use it. Most of the other apps only work for Microsoft Server 2007 so they weren't compatible.
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Touchdown rocks, and is worth the money.
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Gmail and sent/reply messages

I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.

Uuuuuhhhhhhh o.k.
stop CC'ing yourself, just check your sent box... too simple or not complex enough a solution?

jiannichan said:
I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
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Did you read the problem or not understand it? The problem is when I reply to emails, the Tilt will download it as a new message. Where did I state that I CC myself all the time? What does checking my sent messages have anything to do with what the Tilt is downloading?

little snippy...
Pretty sure you not only said it, but now you've highlighted the fact that you sometimes CC yourself on emails sent, so yes, you would receive a copy. You would check your sent box to view messages that you have sent rather than CC'ing yourself. Mighty snippy for someone asking for help. Are you using a threaded version of Gmail? that's the only reason I could think you would receive a copy of the conversation, aside from CC'ing yourself.

If you read it, it says SOMETIMES. My problem is EVERY email reply gets downloaded. The CCs aren't a problem and not something I am complaining about. I am complaining about all replies done by me being downloaded as a new email. My response to you would have been different if you actually replied like you read it what the problem was.

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Trying again, are you using a threaded style of Gmail or the true Gmail website?

Not really sure. I rarely ever use the gmail website unless I am at a different computer. Most of my email comes to my phone and PC, which I remote into during work and just use Outlook to respond if I can. I'll try to explain the problem better. I apologize, just having a hectic day at work.
When someone emails me, the Tilt will download the email.
I will reply back using the tilt, or Outlook on my PC, and every once in a while, the gmail web interface. NOT CCing myself.
Tilt then downloads again, my reply and puts it in my inbox.
The only time I CC myself, is when I send out a new email that I feel is important. I do this because I like to have a copy for myself, and I empty my sent box on a weekly basis.

Also, I just did a web search on this threaded gmail thing you were talking about. It appears that is a 'feature' in gmail and it can't be disabled. It puts my replys in a 'conversation' style so it thinks that my replies are new messages and just downloads them. I guess I just have to deal with it.

More questions
Does ONLY the tilt capture all replies or do they also show up on your box at home and is this independant of from where you reply (home box or tilt)? Gmail uses a conversation view that shows reply messages as a long conversation would appear in MMS/SMS. I can't imagine that this would cause the problem but may be another piece to this puzzle.
Don't worry about my comments, I'm a smart-ass. Pretty much everyone is here to help and there are many more smart-assier (and just plain smarter) than me. Just roll with the punches and enjoy the website.

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I use Gmail and reply from my tilt as well, but have not had a problem. But i don't use a web app, I have gmail as a separate account that I access just like standard push-mail. What way do you use gmail?

Same problem
When I used my tilt I was having the same problem. I would send an email from my tilt (from a push account I had set up on the phone) and would receive a copy of the sent mail as a new message. I had that phone for 2 years and used various roms and could never stop it from doing so. It was very annoying to say the least. Some light on this matter would be awesome.

If I can, I just use email from the phone, or outlook on my PC if there is a large attachment. It only does it on the Tilt. My outlook on the PC is only showing up the emails from other people, and not myself. I can see on the web interface my replies though if I log on.
I have it set up on the Tilt as an account as well, so I am not using the gmail interface thru the phone. Not sure how I have it setup or if it is a seperate email software. I just click on messages and added the email account. It doesn't matter where I reply from. I also have a Yahoo account set up and it doesn't do this.
Also, the phone info:
Duttys WM6.1 build 19700
radio 1.65.14.06

I had this problem once and I was because I forget to change the "[email protected]" that I used during the initial setup back to my actual e-mail address.

I just fixed the issue. I deleted the account from the phone and recreated a new one and set it up as IMAP. I think the issue at first was because I had it set up and let the phone download the settings for me and it configured it as POP. This time, I set up everything manually and tested it out and it appears to be fine now.