hi to all
im completely new to the whole pda game, and have recently purchased my vario.
i have spent the last few weeks plodding around the forum, gaining hints and tips - just feeling myself around to understand the capabilities of my ppc.
its great to see so many dedicated people sharing information and helping one another - a real credit, and to the site as a whole, a complete wealth of valuable information. thanks to all involved!!
after my experience here so far, i have a small suggestion that may help everyone, especially other beginners find vital posts, or should i say specific posts within threads.
its very easy for threads to become huge due to thanks yous and suggestions, etc. (they can also stray way off path). obviously these are fantastic and move threads forward, but i was thinking that it would be really great, and save loads of time, if posts where an author, say, releases a tweak/hack or unlocker, has one main thread which they use to release. this thread is locked to replies, but a link is added to another reply thread, where other members can add their comments and suggestions, etc. the author could reply to individuals on this sub-thread, but post important comments and updated releases on the main thread.
thus anyone wanting to either view the history of an item, or just simply download the newest version of a hack could do so without the hassle of searching through say 30 pages.
this would also allow those who want to read the 'other member' comments do so.
obviously the sub thread would link up to the main thread...
i dont want to step on toes, but hopefully other members would agree and some new posts could start this way to see how it goes.
comments, remarks wellcome...
regards
dan
Well I think your idea is a good one in many ways but as updates come about comments and tips also come about and if they are all in order with the updates it does help with it as sometimes the author/developer of the a hack or tweak doesn't always get the instructions perfect and the experience of the other members as they try it and find a better way of using it or installing it helps and if you have them all in the same place and without the need of searching through another forum to find the right part of the page that corresponds with the current version. I think it would almost need to be put into portions. Example for the original hack has a forum then the next version has a forum and then it would keep it in order. What do you think??
as an alternative, a listing of the post # and date announcing the new release by the version number and content listing on the original post of a thread, or the "locked" thread suggested in this thread.
funkydan: I think it would make a lot of sense. I'll try to remember, but it can be hard to enforce. Good policy though.
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One thought is if when you select New Thread you are given two options one for general threads and the other if you are wanting to post a piece of software etc and if they are wanting to post a normal thread they get taken to the normal thread creator but if they want to post a piece of software etc they are taken to a template where the enter in the info and then automatically another thread is created within that thread for other users to post. What do you think?
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I wish to start this poll to express an Idea I had this weekend. I have been browsing this site for a couple of years now and have noticed people starting threads for cab files only the only problem is that the first page is great then 2nd a 3rd pages get worse and worse pretty soon your looking through hundreds of posts and the thread is crap. My suggestion would to be to add another section in addtion to the main wizard forum seprate of upgrading and general and make a cabs section this would include specific cabs to make registry changes not all inclusive cabs also it would be for fixes and software to make our lives easier and to make it better we can have the moderators sign off on the cabs to verify they are "correct" or that they are relivant. The moderator can also have the right to delete superfolous posts and add cabs to the first post keeping the site clean. I think this will also keep the forum clean. So if this is a good Idea I'd like you to put your 2 cents in. Moderators if this seems like a good idea then I'd be happy to help.
I would like this post to be deleted at the end of this month as not to contribute to the problem.
I'm going to post an example
Windows Mobile 6 and 5 moderator approved Cabs
Change the G in the title bar to E for edge (link) Moderator approval(put names of moderator that has looked at the cab and verified funtionility here)
Windows Mobile 6 only moderator Approved Cabs
Turn on power management of SDcard (link) Moderator approval(put names of moderator that has looked at the cab and verified funtionility here)
Posts Can be added for example apps then deleted once a moderator tests and approves
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Thanks Gys it looks like we are getting better results
This is infact a very good idea!!
Further, can we have "onshare" amongst all the XDA-DEV guys, so as to share cabs/tweaks and Roms safely and securely?
http://www.onshare.com/en_gb/index.php?ck=ok
on share
Sounds a good saves a lot of time
on share looks good set it up my id is easymob i have some roms to share
Good idea, it can be every hard to find a CAB you used once before and can't find after a ROM upgrade. I think it would also clean up the forums by reducing any CAB request threads etc.
It will indeed be a great time saver, as it's really hard currently to go through a lot of pages without actually having the link to the cab file.
Great Idea.
Isn't this why we have a Wiki?
Great time saver for members but a great time waster for mods, don't ya think?
anything that makes this website better is good with me.. this is the best site on the web.
time waster
Infact it would be quite the opposite problem. The moderator only need to monitor 1 thread and this will infact save time. How say you moderators. By keeping one thread clean and having a checks and balances system it will let the community know that we are trying to accomplish a goal towards providing resources for fixes etc. but keeping in mind that people in the community don't want to waste htere time either. As for the wiki that is a good resource but the idea is to keep the forum clean. If people had a forum link to go to then they would just need to go there for safe fixes and possibly not post over and over again. As aside I frequently ask moderators to erase my threads that seem not to help the community. I would also like to see more of these practices on this forum but I'm not a moderator so i have to rely on them.
suggestion
Another suggestion would to make all cabs registered as XDA Developers open source I have posted a working cab as an example. Maybe eventually we can work as a community to make our own freeware tweak utility suck as Tweaks2k.
Use the WIKI.
that's a good idea , and to make it even easier , we can upload some cabs we had already downloaded so everybody can use it
I agree with putting this in the wiki. There are still too many, "why isn't my device upgrading when I flash the rom?" questions going on right now for the moderators to do this very effiectively.
My vote goes to Wiki also! The idea is pretty cool and save a lot of time to all of us!
Time is money!
yea i agree... being organized will release the site from numerous senceless threads wen its easier to find something your looking for
Consider this another vote using the WIKI.
That's why it exists right ????
WIKI
OK how about putting a link on the forums page directly to the cabs on wiki
Yeah I'm thinking we would not have any problems posting on the FTP site unless their are roms. If you want I can host a site for Moderators to share cab files ECT. But I too would not want anyone to post illeagal software on it just fixes and patches
sids911 said:
This is infact a very good idea!!
Further, can we have "onshare" amongst all the XDA-DEV guys, so as to share cabs/tweaks and Roms safely and securely?
http://www.onshare.com/en_gb/index.php?ck=ok
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Sounds like a good idea in theory. But, I have a feeling it will also start out good and turn into a crap thread again. But it will depend on the moderators, if they are willing to put in the time and effort to keep it clean.
I notice a lot of new members joining this fantastic website, great the more members the better the knowledge pool.
Sadly I note that a lot of these new members are all asking the same questions, such as:
Which ROM is best
How do I install cab files
Whats the best software
Tweaks that work for
I like many other members spend a considerable amount of time just gleaning the info we need for our particular device and am grateful for the time spent by the developers who do the hard work.
Thanks to you all
However, the noobs want it all served on a plate!!
I have a suggestion, when a newly registered member of the group joins they are limited only to post in stickies for a the first 20 or so posts. Then, hopefully they would have gleaned the info wanted from those areas before being let loose in the wild.
Just a suggestion
Alchopop
NICE!!!!
but in a utopy web forum... welcome all we alll say read read read before ask... and search, use the search tab... so if nothing of this happends they always ask... so we are here to redirect them to the right way.
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Hi folks, I’m not from around these parts, I live in the Kaiser world!
I have a friend who is not technically minded, but wants me to update the ROM on his diamond.
I need to put a stable ROM on there that he can use day in day out without having to worry about solving bugs etc himself as I won’t be around to do it for him! He’s just your average, email, music and texting user – doesn’t need anything specific.
Over in the Kaiser section I would recommend PDA Ultimate V19. There are better versions after this, but in the drive for perfection and speed, each new release throws up bugs that need tweaking every now and then – this is what I’m trying to avoid.
Please can you let me know which version of a ROM you would recommend for him? The one you’ve run for ages and always return to. If there are just one or two tweaks I need to make to it, if you could detail those and I’ll sort them before I hand him his upgraded diamond back never to be tweaked again!!
Thanks in advance
Ps. Mods – didn’t want to clutter the ROM section with this, so put it in here.
Please be considerate ogf others and read the rules before posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=429
ATTENTION!: We are glad that our community is growing really fast. Unfortunately, the number of topics in the threads of the forums grow in a very larger manner. Unfortunately not every user is aware of the general forum usage and posting rules. As a direct conseque to that MODERATORS will apply the Diamond forum, as one of the most active forums on the site, a very strict moderating policy which might imply:
immediate thread deletion when newly created thread addresses an already discussed topic;
immediate thread deletion when newly created thread addresses an issue such as "Which ROM is the best", "Diamond vs iPhone", etc.;
landshark said:
Please be considerate ogf others and read the rules before posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=429
ATTENTION!: We are glad that our community is growing really fast. Unfortunately, the number of topics in the threads of the forums grow in a very larger manner. Unfortunately not every user is aware of the general forum usage and posting rules. As a direct conseque to that MODERATORS will apply the Diamond forum, as one of the most active forums on the site, a very strict moderating policy which might imply:
immediate thread deletion when newly created thread addresses an already discussed topic;
immediate thread deletion when newly created thread addresses an issue such as "Which ROM is the best", "Diamond vs iPhone", etc.;
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I did read the rules.
Did you read my post?
also interested
I am also interested in this. I have read all the threads till now and kinda convinced me not to update the ROM. From what i've read, ROM v 1.93 has many bugs (e.g. phone rings one and then no more, send SMS to someone and I receive the message -> these are only single member problems, not happened to many people). In the end ... any suggestions on ROM update?
Yeh - what i always return to is stock rom and SPB Mobile Shell v3 on top of it - it's awesome...
Xperia ROM development forum is a mess!!
Guys,
every day i see a new thread created by some users.
It is mostly like, how can i do this, how can i do that.
It is really simple, if you want to ask something about an option or a function that isn;t working then please post in the corresponding thread so we can have a clean forum.
Here is a link to the rules:http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
please read it guys, it is very annoying to see a new thread everytime.
mods, please put some time in this xperia forum with cleaning out the ''litter''
@ all, thank you very much for your cooperation.
Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?
i understand what ur saying but a im pretty sure a mod has just moved some of the useless threads because a lot of them have been moved
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Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?
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Stop complaining... j/k
No, I think you made your point. You don't need any more spamming of THIS thread.
yeah thats right the forum is mess
but why?
the people are lazy to read
i hope we can change this in the future....
greetZ
and to all other Merry X MAS
Shazad.K said:
Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?
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No.
I think people read your post and ignored it because it contained nothing useful in itself. It's a public forum, if you want neat and tidy you're probably in the wrong place.
I'm not looking to pick argument it just seems to me your original post was pointless. In most cases the title of a thread gives you enough info to decided whether it's worthy of reading.
Sure there are plenty of people who come here just to get what they want and give nothing back, again it's the nature of the beast. But I think there's still plenty of people who are willing to give as well as take and on a whole the forum still functions well.
My biggest gripe would be people asking questions answered on the previous page (i.e. lack of search) not untidiness.
Also I think the X1 forum has lost a lot of active members to the LEO forum recently. Again this is inevitable given the age of the device and the progression of handsets.
The LEO thread is much more active currently IMO. POP over there, don't forget most of what they're discussing applies to our device too.
pheL said:
yeah thats right the forum is mess
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Confirm, a bit..
pheL said:
but why?
the people are lazy to read
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this is true, but some can also give reasons (which are also true) that some threads are really huge, specially good rom threads, on average they are 1000 posts longs, some go as long as 11,000 posts (valkyrie), when someone new get a rom and gets a small bug, it is really impossible to read all past thread, and unfortunately the thread search is not always helpful...
the best thing for a rom forum is to be a wiki, where each rom gets a page with generic information, and links to threads of sub pages that have useful information, like how to fix a known bug, or where to get an app that does that thing..... and leave the bla bla discussions or personal opinions on the forum.
some rom developers follow such a method, but partially, in the first few posts reserved for the rom you sometimes find links to common issues and solutions, but after a while everything gets messy again....
a ROM is a "product" that needs its own area or even a forum by itself. not a single forum for many products, this brings the mess....
but this need much organization, the price to be less messy
Newbies don't know their way around
Shazad.K said:
Guys,
every day i see a new thread created by some users.
It is mostly like, how can i do this, how can i do that.
It is really simple, if you want to ask something about an option or a function that isn;t working then please post in the corresponding thread so we can have a clean forum.
Here is a link to the rules:http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
please read it guys, it is very annoying to see a new thread everytime.
mods, please put some time in this xperia forum with cleaning out the ''litter''
@ all, thank you very much for your cooperation.
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You are right and its mostly down to newbies. I'm someone who makes a point of holding off on posting on a few forum until I see the layout, get the rules, etc. so I don't annoy seasoned members and get a bad rep for being stupid.
A lot of new members to the site are a bit out of their depth (I know I was when I first joined) and its not really only being used as a developers forum/site any more. If you're a newbie you've got two choices: (1) ask, (2) spend countless hours trying to work it out for yourself.
I guess the lazy ones are a bit thread happy!
EmuX
P.S. You can show people the rules but you can't make them read.
P.P.S. Isn't this another one of those clogging up threads that aren't anything to do with ROM dev though?! (joke)
I hovered around in the X1 forum for a little more than a year, and most recently, after getting a new (additional) toy, I moved over to another forum, the one which is mentioned here already.
Frankly spoken, I have the perception that the X1 forum here is quite in order, while the HD2 forum is a real mess. For many "similar" problems and questions, many newcomers open a new thread instead of using the search function. In case of the X1 forum, there is much more "discipline".
Plus, the mods of the forums are quite effective here, I would say.
I am still very thankful that xda devs exists, thanks to all who contribute, especially the cooks... and also to those who help understanding the forum (and its rules) to newcomers. All of us started "small" and as "newb", no? And from time to time, I try to help, too - even if I am just an "average" user.
Mods please close thread
I think the point is made.
mods, please close this thread
im partly responsible for your this thread and once agian, i am sorry....i promise u it wont happen again..
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill
Sorry to all the mods and admins again...
[Q] Why is everyone posting into the Development section?
it's so extremely annoying, having to filter through tons of junk posts that should be in Q&A or General instead of actual Development question
if this goes one might suggest to enable the option "By Invite Only"
so that only Dev people will can access it, and other XDA members can access it only if invited by a Dev.
The answer to your question is several fold:
- First, some people don't read and/or don't care where they post.
- Second, there are some that think that the Development section is the only place to get answers to questions when that section is for Rom Development only and any closely linked technical conversations revolving around that topic.
- Third, which appears to applies to new users in particular, they google externally to the XDA site for an answer to a problem, their search results drop them straight into the Rom Development forum, they don't quite find what they are looking for and then proceed to post a question where it does not belong.
Our moderators work very hard to keep the fora tidy; however if people will not support that activity by posting in the right place then we end up fighting a losing battle.
I have 3 suggestions to help improve the situation:
- First, that you report any threads that are in the wrong fora so we can move them.
- Second, you all take time out to educate offenders yourselves, especially repeat offenders, on the benefits of posting in the right place.
- Third, people get into the habit of posting in the right fora first time and, whenever required, use google search to see if their question has already been posted and resolved BEFORE posting another thread.
I hope this is helpful.
Kind regards,
WB (XDA Moderating Team)
Do we have enough moderators or need more. I moderate on another forum and would be happy to throw my towel in if needed.
same, previously Mod of the now defund mytreo.net and, legit FlyFF USA MMORPG and some other lesser known forums.
the only problem of being a Mod, you have less time for everything else
Gents/Ladies,
Good quality people with a mature, adult approach to life, good decision making skills,an open mind, conflict management skills, a proven track record of positive help and support of this community and, above all, a great deal of common sense, are always welcome.
We have over 2 million users on here and an awful lot of fora so think carefully before you commit yourselves. However if I have failed to frighten you off please feel free to pm me and we can take it from there.
We have a defined process that we go through. Please be aware that an application does not guarantee that you will be accepted.
WB
PS: We undertook a massive cleaning exercise yesterday in the development forum. You should find it a lot cleaner than it was yesterday.
We still need your help to spot items that should not be in there and report them. We also need you to help implement the suggestions in my post above.
WB