Hey all,
I've managed to get a far better response on my keyboard by making a simple change. I find it surprising that the keyboard issue only affects Pocket Outlook, I've never had a problem elsewhere.
Anyway, the fix is to change the keyboard repeat settings. In Settings/System/Keyboard, click "Repeats Setting" and increase the "Delay before first repeat". Now this is where it gets wierd...Outlook actually ignores this setting. It's labeled as "up/down key repeat setting" and it does actually control the up/down action on the Today screen in the same way as the same control on a regular computer. But it doesn't work on the hardware keyboard on the phone, and I expect that this incompatibility leads to the problem. It reminds me a lot of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch#Contact_bounce in electronics, basically you aren't getting a clean "key down" then "key up" event from each keypress.
Hope this helps some of you!
The problem in Messaging is that every time you type a letter into the message field the horizontal scrollbar appears and disappears. This happens every keypress. Since keypress = keyDown + keyUp, and the scrollbar appears during keyDown, the OS sometimes (quite often when you type fast) misess the keyUp event, repeating and repeating and repeating the processing of keyDown event.
The kb lag is present in ALL apps (try typing FAST in Notes), but most of the apps do not do anything specific between keyDown and keyUp, thus the lag is not as easy to 'notice'.
Yeah, I still get the scrollbar problem, however before making this change Messaging was completely unusable for me. I had to wait 1sec between key presses otherwise I just get gobbledygook on the screen. It was very frustrating and I assumed that's what people refered to by "keyboard lag". The scrollbar thing is a different problem altogether and just a minor annoyance for me now, a purely visual one.
At the moment I can type "the quick brown fox..." in both Messaging and Notes at full speed with no errors. Yesterday I could not do that in Messaging at all.
Yup... The MOST annoying thing about the kblag is the backspace-key auto-repeat :|
I just slided the setting to 7 and it's great now. Thanks fraser.
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A very annoying thing happens when I open a text message on my Kaiser. The default vertical position is all the way at the bottom of the message, causing none of the message to actually show up on the screen. I always have to scroll to the top. This happens for all messages--unread, read, sent. Is there any way to change this?
If you have Kaisertweaks loaded ... under pocketie dpad scroll should be disabled. (believe that was a fix last time I searched..)
Yep, that's what worked for me
Regards
Paul D
Thanks guys, Tht's been annoying me too. Gotta love these forums!
Thanks. That worked, however I really liked having the D-Pad function enabled because I hated PocketIE scrolling to the next link rather than just scrolling down. Is there any other way to fix the problem?
I'm finding that when im typing with the on-screen keyboard, im getting random characters appearing when it's IMPOSSIBLE that i've accidentally pressed them.
For example, i'll have the keyboard in standard view (a-z lowercase etc), and randomly the letters will be in upper case, or certain characters will appear like < or : ..... and these would have required me to press '123' then to have selected them.. there's no WAY they are 'accidental' presses......
Anyone had a similar problem? :S
I've had strange 'keypresses' when that have been caused by the screen protector.. you may want to try refitting it (if nothing else works first)
also try re-calibrating the screen...,had the same issue myself...a re-calibrate fixed the issue
This has just started recently... but I've made so many changes, I'm not sure which one affected it. When typing a new or replying to a SMS or email, occasionally (key word there) the letters that I'm typing won't show up. The cursor moves - and if/when I send it, all the letters I've typed will send. Also if I save it as a draft, then re-open it, it shows everything... then I can type a few more letters, and it blanks out again. Any suggestions or help as to what this is? It's only in the message entry part of the screen; I can still see the start menu and bottom menu bars.
Thanks!
If it is only happening in Landscape mode then turn of ClearType font. Cleartype font no longer displays correctly in WM 6.1 in landscape mode. There is a setting in KaiserTweaks that says it will but it only forces something and makes it so text does not display at all.
it's happening in both modes... and cleartype isn't enabled - nor is it in KaiserTweaks. any other suggestions?
its a long shot, but the keyboard hardware speed up cab here might tweak somthing to make it work, its a long shot but it sounds like to me a glitch in the reg....
This is happening to me as well!!!
This is also happening to me. I installed a couple of programs recently including the HTC update to fix the backlight issue, Pocket Sudoku, The RR Keyboard Speed increase cab, Raisak's Flatbar black, and Pocket RAR. Did you install any of these recently?
I did install the RR keyboard - but none of the others and I haven't done the backlight fix. My messages were lagging bigtime - not the stereotypical missing the occasional letter because I type too fast, but I'd click on new sms and it'd literally take 30 seconds or longer to open. I don't know that i've fixed it but I disabled HTC home and HTC homeplugin and then ran the RR keyboard cab, then enabled the HTC apps. I haven't been able to make it mess up again...yet.
*edit* its still having issues. But I can't figure out why sometimes it works just fine and others I literally have to soft reset it to get it to respond.
Ok, first to the admins/moderators - I searched my ass off trying to find a thread with my problem, to no avail... so if there is one, please excuse me...
So here is my problem - I find it very difficult to scroll any list with my finger because I just end up selecting some item from the list... Is there any registry setting to, lets say, delay the select behavior of TouchFlo? I mean, for example, I try scrolling my contacts, I AM able to scroll but almost immediately after I start scrolling I end up selecting some contact!?! Am I the only one with that problem? PLEASE HELP!
Bump. Anyone?
I just have the problem the other way around, I just can't select multiple items because everything starts scrolling...
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
joshkoss said:
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
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Also , make it more of a " flick " with your finger, instead of a touch and drag scroll.
So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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u should blow up their forums then
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
I hate to say this, but I think that is the expected behavior or TouchFlo scrolling.
You can drag to scroll specifically (and I don't believe this selects anything, at least on my Tilt), or you can swipe to start kinetic scrolling. If you click while kinetic scrolling is occurring, I think TouchFlo causes a selection to be made (although in places where single-click activate is the default, I don't think it actually activates the item--it simply highlights it).
You may be able to resolve this by changing the TFLOSettings\FingerPressure value.
I had a problem for the first six months with TouchFlo where the context menu would pop up about one in three times I tried to scroll (swiping or dragging). This happened even the moment I started using the device. Completely and utterly unusable. But after the third or so time I tried adjusting TFLOSettings values in the registry, I finally solved the problem. I ended up with TFLOSettings\FingerPressure=0x64 (100) and TouchPanel\PressureThreshold=0xC8 (200).
I REALLY wish HTC or someone would produce a complete guide to customizing TouchFlo scrolling (including the meanings of the TFLOSETTINGS values). It really works well, once it is optimized. Although, it will be great if Microsoft builds scrolling into the Common Controls in WM6.5.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
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Actually there are genius developers in here. I think you're just being a little picky, the touch flo works fine for me.
I think I recall a touchflo sensitivity setting in KaiserTweak. Get it, then try setting the Touchflo sensitivity to the most sensitive option possible.
Dave
+1 on Kaisertweek, altho I reduced sensitivity instead of increasing it. Technique counts too. I tend to use nails or stylus for browsers, especially Opera. Use keyboard for contacts, and scrollwheel to dial it from there. Every phone is different, but reducing sensitivity via Kaisertweek worked for me.
Problem solved
Finally figured it out and now it works perfectly. The culprit was the too high value in HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel\PressureThreshold.... I put a value of 160 (dword:000000a0) and now I have almost iPhone experience
heres a thread closer !
to bring some closure to this thread, the following utility will solve all your touchflo woes!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499837
Anyone notice that the alternate characters on the Samsung keyboard is slow to respond? It works fine, I just find myself having to long press longer to get the alternate character. Causes me to make mistake quite often.
My Note 5 & Note 2 werenxt (<- see) this slow to respond. Anyway to remedy this? I've been comparing with my Note 5 & on the Note 8 itxs definitely slower to respond.
Yeah, it's pretty strange that Samsung doesn't include an option to adjust the response time like you can on third party keyboards. I'd suggest just trying out SwiftKey or others because it can definitely get annoying not getting the special key you want as fast as you want. Champagne problems, I know, but still. It's annoying, nonetheless.
EDIT: As you can see from the attached photo, SwiftKey (which I'm using) has this option but the stock Samsung keyboard does NOT offer it. Shame.
Yeah, same here. I like the Samsung keyboard because when apply a theme the keyboard is included. However, the special character problem plus the auto correct being so bad, I may have to switch.
Same here I like the Samsung keyboard because of it's features, the spen integration is the main one. Themes is also another.
I think I found a fix. Not sure if it's just in my head but it seems like it's ok now & I haven't made a mistake yet since the change. I disabled swipe to type. Well actually I changed it to cursor control, that's how I had it set on my N5. It makes sense as maybe the keyboard is sensing that you may be attemtping to swipe to type a word & causes the delay.
Now to fix my space bar issue but that's just me & my stubby thumb. I keep hitting letters or the period instead of the space bar. Same issue on my N5 & with the N8 being longer it's not helping in landscape mode. Tried changing the keyboard size but then all the letters are too far apart.
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Same here I like the Samsung keyboard because of it's features, the spen integration is the main one. Themes is also another.
I think I found a fix. Not sure if it's just in my head but it seems like it's ok now & I haven't made a mistake yet since the change. I disabled swipe to type. Well actually I changed it to cursor control, that's how I had it set on my N5. It makes sense as maybe the keyboard is sensing that you may be attemtping to swipe to type a word & causes the delay.
Now to fix my space bar issue but that's just me & my stubby thumb. I keep hitting letters or the period instead of the space bar. Same issue on my N5 & with the N8 being longer it's not helping in landscape mode. Tried changing the keyboard size but then all the letters are too far apart.
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The short spacebar on Samsung keyboards is the ONLY reason I have always used Gboard. Shame Samsung never revised it yet.
Like yourself I always hit period instead of space.
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