Ok, first to the admins/moderators - I searched my ass off trying to find a thread with my problem, to no avail... so if there is one, please excuse me...
So here is my problem - I find it very difficult to scroll any list with my finger because I just end up selecting some item from the list... Is there any registry setting to, lets say, delay the select behavior of TouchFlo? I mean, for example, I try scrolling my contacts, I AM able to scroll but almost immediately after I start scrolling I end up selecting some contact!?! Am I the only one with that problem? PLEASE HELP!
Bump. Anyone?
I just have the problem the other way around, I just can't select multiple items because everything starts scrolling...
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
joshkoss said:
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
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Also , make it more of a " flick " with your finger, instead of a touch and drag scroll.
So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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u should blow up their forums then
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
I hate to say this, but I think that is the expected behavior or TouchFlo scrolling.
You can drag to scroll specifically (and I don't believe this selects anything, at least on my Tilt), or you can swipe to start kinetic scrolling. If you click while kinetic scrolling is occurring, I think TouchFlo causes a selection to be made (although in places where single-click activate is the default, I don't think it actually activates the item--it simply highlights it).
You may be able to resolve this by changing the TFLOSettings\FingerPressure value.
I had a problem for the first six months with TouchFlo where the context menu would pop up about one in three times I tried to scroll (swiping or dragging). This happened even the moment I started using the device. Completely and utterly unusable. But after the third or so time I tried adjusting TFLOSettings values in the registry, I finally solved the problem. I ended up with TFLOSettings\FingerPressure=0x64 (100) and TouchPanel\PressureThreshold=0xC8 (200).
I REALLY wish HTC or someone would produce a complete guide to customizing TouchFlo scrolling (including the meanings of the TFLOSETTINGS values). It really works well, once it is optimized. Although, it will be great if Microsoft builds scrolling into the Common Controls in WM6.5.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
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Actually there are genius developers in here. I think you're just being a little picky, the touch flo works fine for me.
I think I recall a touchflo sensitivity setting in KaiserTweak. Get it, then try setting the Touchflo sensitivity to the most sensitive option possible.
Dave
+1 on Kaisertweek, altho I reduced sensitivity instead of increasing it. Technique counts too. I tend to use nails or stylus for browsers, especially Opera. Use keyboard for contacts, and scrollwheel to dial it from there. Every phone is different, but reducing sensitivity via Kaisertweek worked for me.
Problem solved
Finally figured it out and now it works perfectly. The culprit was the too high value in HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel\PressureThreshold.... I put a value of 160 (dword:000000a0) and now I have almost iPhone experience
heres a thread closer !
to bring some closure to this thread, the following utility will solve all your touchflo woes!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499837
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i dont like to use touch flo and would like to know if someone has found a way to disable it ?
thanks, eric
their is touchflo option in settings (under system I think), should allow you to disable it
Go to the the TODAY settings...
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
the touchflo (finger panning) option is the one i want to turn off.
i still want to keep the htc home in my today screen.
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their is touchflo option in settings (under system I think), should allow you to disable it
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there is only one checked box about the sound on/off when panning. no where to disable it.
I'd love to turn touchflo off. It seems pretty worthless. It scrolls a page to slowly and in PIE its hard to get it to stop when u get to a spot you want to view.
technillion said:
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
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I had followed above with soft reset also, but still the "touch flo" function running in PIE. This is pretty annoying and useless function if you used to your finger scrolling webpages with PIE plus.
Another one can helps..Thank.
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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That worked perfect neighbor. The touchflo scrolling made it near impossible to drag separator lines. I greatly prefer to tap in the scroll-bar field to page up/down. Thanks again.
jamespaulritter said:
That worked perfect neighbor. The touchflo scrolling made it near impossible to drag separator lines. I greatly prefer to tap in the scroll-bar field to page up/down. Thanks again.
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Out of curiosity does that change also speed up PIE scrolling the normal way ? - cos it's super laggy and worse than TyTn in the out of the box setup.
Mike
Well if i hold my finger in the scroll bar field it will page up/down at 4 pages a second. The reg edit doesn't seem to have changed anything other than the touchflo scrolling
TouchFlO Scrolling and Sound
A Couple questions here:
Is there a way to tweak touchflo scrolling such that it only goes one page length at a time, instead of 4 or 5?
Is there away to turn of the clicking sound as it scrolls?
I'm assuming these are just annoyances of an immature feature that was rushed out the door, but hoping there are fixes available or that HTC is smart enough to fix the problems in future releases.
MardiG said:
A Couple questions here:
Is there a way to tweak touchflo scrolling such that it only goes one page length at a time, instead of 4 or 5?
Is there away to turn of the clicking sound as it scrolls?
I'm assuming these are just annoyances of an immature feature that was rushed out the door, but hoping there are fixes available or that HTC is smart enough to fix the problems in future releases.
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Have you even looked at the settings in your tilt\Kaiser? you would have found atleast on answer to your questions just by looking around and learning your device!
I guess to each his/her own, but I personally think the TouchFLO interface is a huge improvement in usability. Perhaps it just takes some getting used to. And with TouchFLO, you can still essentially do all the things you could without TouchFLO. E.g. the scroll bars are still there to be used if you like that. And you can still use the stylus for normal operations. There seems to be some confusion about how it works so let me explain the "use cases".
The way TouchFLO works is this:
- use a finger (not your fingernail) to "drag" the screen up/down (or even left/right if the page is wider than the screen). The page should drag with your finger. It's semi-smooth. Not truly smooth, but smooth enough. When you drag, DON'T lift your finger from the screen till you've got it positioned to your desired spot.
OR
- If you use your finger (not your fingernail) to swipe up or down AND LIFT your finger fromthe screen as you do it, then the screen with scroll by itself to the end in that direction or until you tap the screen again to stop it.
OR
- if you use the stylus or your fingernail, then it will NOT scroll like above. It will then behave like a normal stylus control (highlites and selects instead of scrolling).
So, the screen reads a broad touch (like your finger) differently than a narrow/pinpoint touch (like your nail or stylus).
once I got used to it, i found it to be an excellent upgrade in the interface. I don't think it was a "feature that was rushed out the door" at all. in fact that it reads the stylus and your finger differently speaks to the idea that thought went into it.
Use it on a web page to see the different use cases. If you browse a PDF file, it'll drag even with a stylus because you can't "highlight and select" within a PDF file, so it knows that use case is invalid.
Also, You can change the sensitivity by using a reg tweak: HKLM-DRIVERS-TOUCHPANEL-PRESSURE THRESHOLD. Increase/decrease it for more/less sensitivity.
technillion said:
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
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You do realize this has nothing to do with TouchFlo ... right?
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There seems to be some confusion about how it works so let me explain the "use cases".
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Nice writeup, thanks!
Richard "Still Jonesing for a Tilt"
I wish there was a way to partially disable the Kaiser implementation of touchflo --specifically, the feature where if you drag scroll and your finger ends up at one of the edges of the screen (which is really easy on a 2.8" screen using your thumb) it goes into the continuous scrolling mode. I wish those edge regions of the screen were treated just like any other.
Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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Thanks from me too for this tip. I don't use TouchFLO and I found the touchscreen on my TyTN II a bit annoying with this enabled. Sometimes it wouldn't react to tapping so I had to tap twice. This was maybe one out of every three or four taps.
Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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didnt work for me, im using windows mobile 6.5, and its annoying to have the 6.5 scrolling and touchflo at the same time...
jonrulezz said:
didnt work for me, im using windows mobile 6.5, and its annoying to have the 6.5 scrolling and touchflo at the same time...
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Please don't go digging in the graveyard, it disturbs the other corpses
Try going to settings>today>items>uncheck touchFlo
Hi !
I'm looking for a way to scroll with the thumbwheel (right now it's just as pressing up/down which does different things depending on the app). I know it could be done, since we have the finger scrolling which works as a REAL scroll, so if moving the thumb down would act the same as finger scrolling for 1cm, for example, than it would be a real scroll.
BTW: as i'm typing this, i'm starting to program an app to do it, so if i don't find a solution, i'l make one myself... muahahaha(evil laugh)... of course i'll share it... free.
Please tell me if you know a solution, so i don't waste my nights programming (again).
Thanks,
RPG
i haven't been able to find a solution and I looked high to low. I think the wheel should be more like a page down than arrow down.
I have never understood why you can't get it to go vertically. It does it on the program and settings but not on the today screen.
I think you are onto something here.
I saw one of the button mapping programs that allowed you to assign screen actions to buttons, but I am not sure how well it would work. If it did, I would imagine it could be pretty quirky and not the most efficient way to do in things, since you be basically reinterpreting another event. Sounds like it might be useful, but I would suggest maybe providing the ability to to toggle between the normal behavior and the true scrolling by double clicking the jog wheel button.
On my Tilt I usually dial via touchscreen using smart dialing on the standard keypad. I've disabled vibrating feedback for keypad presses but it's still abysmally slow and drops keypresses. Any advice?
Try disabling screen tap sound in settings. Check out kaisertweak and it's wiki if you are noting keyboard unresponsiveness in general.
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Try disabling screen tap sound in settings. Check out kaisertweak and it's wiki if you are noting keyboard unresponsiveness in general.
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ooo.i have the same problem (i guess). But i have screen taps sounds disabled. i'm a complete newbie with pocket pc, And what exactly to do?
I have already disabled the tap sounds. I have Kaisertweak. Do you have anything in particular you could point out in the wiki for me?
Does your touchscreen work well in other programs? There is a known issue with this.
There are several settings in Kaisertweak listed under TouchFLO for sensitivity/finger pressure/sound and I believe nikagl has recently updated the xml adding extremely high settings for some of these. I think the .exe has also been updated.
Some users have turned off scrolling (TouchFLO/scroller) also in KaiserTweak to get the screen to respond a bit faster - that's a bummer if you like scrolling tho...
Make sure you soft reset after changing these values.
Cheers-
Touch works fine everywhere else. I've disabled TouchFlo and will see if that helps.
I've also read here that you can increase the screen sensitivity threshold, as explained above as follows: With Registry Editor (Resco), go to HKLM/drivers/touchscreen sensitivity something, increase the rate.
The new Mobile Shell 2.0 has its own sort of dialer that works perfectly without lag so it's obviously just bad coding for the standard dialer.
Having used the Shell lookup some more I've decided it's nice but it can't really replace the default dialer because the phone function is central to that screen. Does anyone know of a nice super-crisp dialer that also has smart dial?
When using touch flow 3d, I keep on selecting things, rather than scrolling. Eg. if scrolling through people, rather than scrolling to the next person, I keep on actually selecting the person I was on. Is there ay sort of registry fix which will help with this?
Thanks
i don't know if there is a registry tweak for this but i had the same problem in my first couple of days with my diamond. all you have to do is practice a lot and you'll get the right movement of your thumb
I had the same problem, but after installing the new Swiftblade Rom it all went better its like the other ROM is too slow so that it forgets your thumbs is on the screen and then it just opens a Program.. all these problems totally disappeared with Swiftblade 6.0
Try this:
realign your screen, but barely touch it! just pres SUPER SOFT just hard enough to make the crosses react.
Then try scrolling again
Riel said:
Try this:
realign your screen, but barely touch it! just pres SUPER SOFT just hard enough to make the crosses react.
Then try scrolling again
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Thank you so much - this did the trick! When I originally configured it, I remember pressing down really hard - this time I pressed down as softly as possible, and it resolved the problem!
Thanks again!
Hi all,
I was wondering if and how you would go about changing the scrolling speed when using your finger...
E.g. If I open anything with a vertical scroll bar (say SMS inbox, file explorer etc), a slight flick of the screen would scroll down (or up) far too quick.
It used to be perfect on my Hermes device as standard.
I'm using Dutty's ROM on my Diamond.
Anywhere that I can change this?
Thanks.
Yes, i would like to know this too. I keep flicking up and down, or accidentally 'clicking an item' which is a pain..
Yeah, accidentally click on an item is also an issue for me (but apparently not for many others!)
Accidental click
Hi,
I'm having the same problem too...
There are some tweaks in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265
Also, try the Advanced Config tool... It has some options too.
But with all these, although there is a slight improvement in usability, still the experiance is not as good as the iphone.
More than the scroll speed, the accidental click is a real pain...
Especially in scenarios like: Programs --> Add program and Weather Application --> Add city
Is there any better fix available... pls help.
+1 for me too. This is really really annoying, and actually I don't think anything in the Advanced Config tool makes the slightest bit of difference to this setting. I set 'scrolling' to disabled under TouchFlo settings of Advanced Config too, but I can still scroll and it's still exactly the same as before.
any ideas about this? i just flashed my rom to dutty's 3.4 (originally a 3.2) and in resco explorer, the scrolling was almost as smooth as an iphone but now it's too fast and sometime non-responsive. anyone know what setting can change this?
This worked for me.
Hi guys,
I was just installing the new Manila Controller add on, which comes with FTouchFlo (SL). With the FTouchFlo enabled, scrolling is back to how it should be for me
Where did you find the Manilla Controller app?
sh500 said:
Hi guys,
I was just installing the new Manila Controller add on, which comes with FTouchFlo (SL). With the FTouchFlo enabled, scrolling is back to how it should be for me
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Yes. Where did you get the Manila app? I was searching for a way to only allow upon double click, but could not find anything in the settings.
It's the FTouchFlo that does the deal. The mentioned Manila Controller just encorporates a version of FTouchFlo to enable the upslide activation.
axelpix said:
It's the FTouchFlo that does the deal. The mentioned Manila Controller just encorporates a version of FTouchFlo to enable the upslide activation.
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Yep that's right, just do a search on FTouchFlo (renamed to FTouchSL?)
Been there, got the t-shirt. FTouchFlo (the old, free version) runs and doesn't do much. Scrolling in native WM windows is still messed up.
Just flashed to latest ROM from Dutty and first thing I installed was FTouchFlo (via Manilla controller). Didn't test the scrolling before, but now, again every menu (native or otherwise) seems to be 'scrollable' for me.
Any other success stories with FTouchFlo? I installed and activated it, but it didn't do much.
I have used this setting to calm this finger flicking crazyness down:
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings:
SpeedHigh: default value (25) <-- Change to (5) / SpeedLow : default value (70) <-- Chnge to (14) save and soft reset
Many custom ROMs are including the 5 and 14 setting respectively this makes it crazy fast when flicking with the finger. I suggest using default settings here or, in my case I use 25 for SpeedHigh and 50 for SpeedLow, wich does improve scrolling over default when using the finger but keeps the finger flick toned down. BTW, I've noticed that when flicking witht the finger the first flick engages SpeedLow and a second flick switches to SpeedHigh.