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Kaiser: bluetooth stack problem!

aladin2000 said:
Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino
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I have the same problem with my handsfree headsets an Tytn II (kaiser):
i have a motorola H700 and a Scalarider headset for helmets.
They are bot NON-ADP and thyey support handsfree.
Sometimes the button on them stop working and I can't do voice dialing with Voice command neither repeat last call.
They appear as connected and If I manually call a number they work.
To get the button works again I have to restart the phone.
Maybe a fault in the microsoft bluetooth stack?
Also: my Motorola H700 has a flip and when you open it the headset turn on and get connected.
You should be able to answer phone calls by opening the flip.
Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't connect if I open it while the phone is ringing and in that case I have to restart bluetooth connection to make it work again.
Microsoft or HTC should check end improve bluetooth stack!
Any hack around?
Can't we put the broadcom instead of microsoft stack on kaiser?

I wrote to HTC Support about this problem and they answered :
"Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXX
Good Afternoon,
The multi function button is the one small button with the led light in, not the big play/pause button.
If you try the other button, it should work.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
XXXXX
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com "
That's incredible don't you ?
They beleive I'm idiot ?
Regards
aladino

Astonished!
Amazing answer!
Are they idiot?
I'll write them too,
I hope someone cleverer will read the my mail
and suggest the bug to the technical stuff.

I have a motorola H350 and have been experiencing the same problems. It's driving me mad. The problem makes the use of the hands free totally useless as it seems to stop working at the drop of a hat.
What I've found so far.
To get it working you need to turn on the ear piece.
Then turn on the bluetooth on the phone.
If you do this any other way it doesn't work. Once it's working you may or may not be able to hang up with the button. If that's the case it won't answer with the button either.
Once it's working it seems to work ok till either the headset or the phone's bluetooth is turned off.
Voice dial will not fire up until the main procedure if followed and sometimes it takes several tries.
I was wondering if this was something to do with the motorola but seemingly it's to do with the stack so getting another device isn't going to help I guess.
The bluetooth worked perfectly on the Hermes but immediately I got the Kaiser one thing alerted me to the fact that something was different.
With the Hermes, as soon as I turned on the bluetooth and the earpiece the phone would alert me to the fact that the motorola wanted to connect.
With the Kaiser nothing, even when I searched for a device. I had to find out how to put the earpiece into search mode before it would find it.
Very flakey and very disappointing. I hope someone finds a fix for this.
Anyone else experiencing these problems?

I've got an H700 and Jawbone. I do notice more crackle type sounds and lower volume on both using Kaiser compared to my 8525. The H700 connects within 1-2 seconds when opening it's flip and I have noticed that on occasion, if I walk away from the phone (eg. phone on desk) the headset may not reconnect when I return. The Jawbone has been fairly good at connecting and staying functional at all times but the volume is lower as noted by many people.
I would say that the stack overall is better than the 8525's for all the devices I've tried (3 headsets, 2 Laptops, 1 Garmin Streetpilot with BT Phone interface)

I am also losing the Voice speed dial & redial button from time to time. It also worked that way with my hermes, so I kinda get used to it...
I am now wondering if it is related to my BT earpiece (nokia bh-200 or something like this) of if it is the BT stack which has never been really working on all the device I could test (hermes, trinity, kaiser).
I allmost never had issue recieving call (I don't recieve much call while using the BT earpiece) but it is sometime impossible to initiate a call through the BT earpiece.
The simplest way for me to lose the voice recognition is to:
-Start BT on the phone
-Start BT earpiece
Phone recognize the earpiece, everything is fine
-Restart the phone
Phone & BT reconnect, but voice recognition & redial are gone
I would really appreciate of some of you could test my little procedure and report if it works of not. If it is working for some other BT earpiece I may change mine and get rid of this eternal annoying issue.
Thanks

Jabra BT500
I have the Jabra BT500 and same problem with the TyTn II.
The earpiece can't initiate a voice call...
Looks like HTC (or Windows), starts to deliver ROMs like Mr. Bill Gates does with his M$ crap...
If someone find a solution for this Bluetooth problem, please post it!!!!
Thanks a lot,

Kaiser and Moto H700 just do not work together
I also have a problem with the Kaiser and a Moto H700. The M700 button stops working randomly, the BT connection sometimes disconnect during the call at will.
I can still use H700 successfully with my old Nokia 6680, so the problem clearly is in the Kaisers BT stack.
I’ve made the BT update that HTC posted just recently for TyTN II, but it had no effect.
Fortunately, I have my old Moto H500. This one is working OK with the Kaiser, but. Like it was pointed here before me, the only way to get it working you need to turn on the ear piece. Then turn on the Bluetooth on the phone.
In case if the Bluetooth connection was disrupted for some reason, the only way to make it work is again swath Kaiser BT off then turn on the ear piece and switch on the TyTNs BT.
The Kaiser’s BT stack is not good also connecting with a PC, the connection is just not stable.

Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.

Motorola headsets seem to have a problem with this device. I had trouble getting my H500 to connect and the voice button to work. Once I reset the phone when the headset was on and it wouldn't connect. I tried deleting and re-pairing. It took another reset to get it back. Fortunately I don't use that headset anymore.

jameselee said:
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
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The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.

costas2by4AIO said:
The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
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I just bought the same headset... cant get it work with the TyTN II - Kaiser but pairs without any problem with my TyTN I - Hermes... clearly it is the BT Stack
Way beyond my abilities, but cant the BT stack on Hermes be cooked into a rom for the Kaiser ?

I have a Motorola HT820 and a Motorola S9 both devices are working flawless with the kaiser.
Now i own a motorola S705 too , with this device my kaiser suddenly turn the bluetooth off (
regards

No Voice Command audio after A2DP connects

This is one of several problems with my AT&T Tilt. My 30 day return policy ends November 8, so I'm trying to figure out which problems are specific to my phone and which are just Kaiser in general.
Voice Command on my Tilt works great via Bluetooth hands-free mode to my Parrot MK6000. I push the MK6000 Talk button, VC chimes over my car speakers, says the name I'm calling, and asks if I want home, mobile, etc.
The problem is that after I make the A2DP connection to the MK6000, the Voice Command audio prompts do not play if I use the MK6000 Talk button. Even so, the icon displays on the menubar and it accepts voice commands, but without the audio prompts, I don't know if it's dialing the right contact and/or if I need to say "Yes/No" or "Mobile/Work/etc." unless I pull out my phone and look at the screen, which is inconvenient and dangerous while driving down the highway and defeats the purpose of hands-free mode. Never had this problem with my 8125 and the same MK6000.
The prompts do play through the MK6000 after A2DP connects if I use my mapped Voice Command button on my phone itself, but again, that requires pulling out my phone.
This happens with both Voice Command v1.60.4622.0 (my original) and v1.6.17913 (announce patch) on Helmi Kaiser Dynamic Big Storage. Not sure if it happened on stock AT&T Tilt ROM.
Anyone's Voice Command audio prompts missing after A2DP connects?

BennTech said:
This is one of several problems with my AT&T Tilt. My 30 day return policy ends November 8, so I'm trying to figure out which problems are specific to my phone and which are just Kaiser in general.
Voice Command on my Tilt works great via Bluetooth hands-free mode to my Parrot MK6000. I push the MK6000 Talk button, VC chimes over my car speakers, says the name I'm calling, and asks if I want home, mobile, etc.
The problem is that after I make the A2DP connection to the MK6000, the Voice Command audio prompts do not play if I use the MK6000 Talk button. Even so, the icon displays on the menubar and it accepts voice commands, but without the audio prompts, I don't know if it's dialing the right contact and/or if I need to say "Yes/No" or "Mobile/Work/etc." unless I pull out my phone and look at the screen, which is inconvenient and dangerous while driving down the highway and defeats the purpose of hands-free mode. Never had this problem with my 8125 and the same MK6000.
The prompts do play through the MK6000 after A2DP connects if I use my mapped Voice Command button on my phone itself, but again, that requires pulling out my phone.
This happens with both Voice Command v1.60.4622.0 (my original) and v1.6.17913 (announce patch) on Helmi Kaiser Dynamic Big Storage. Not sure if it happened on stock AT&T Tilt ROM.
Anyone's Voice Command audio prompts missing after A2DP connects?
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I have the same problem with the iTech headset.

Thx saint. So it's not just mine.
Maybe I'll have to dig around in the registry and see if I can find somewhere that my MK6000 and/or Voice Command is mapped for regular Bluetooth but not A2DP, but I suspect that will be a fruitless venture. And it would be a lot easier and more productive if I still had my 8125 to compare registries, but I washed my 8125 in a load of laundry a month ago (and hence the Tilt upgrade).

mex-bt3600u sony head unit

anyone pairing this with a kaiser... any tips would be welcome

mex-2500 - guess it's allmost the same
No problems here
Can't remember the excact way to do it but it's something with turning the radio off and holding down a button for a long long time until the BT icon flashes on the radio and KEEP pressing it for a while longer

been playing with it today... just need to hold 6 once their paired. what a great bit of kit. Love the mp3 streaming via bt

The streaming is not working for me after I switch the radio off and on again, only works the first time it's paired
I guess it's the MEX-BT2500's firmware or something
Yours have USB also right? I'd love to have that

Wireless Stereo
In "Comm Manager" go to "Settings" then to "Bluetooth" then press "XPLOD" and you will see two items: "Wireless Stereo" and "Hands Free". Switch off "Wireless Stereo" and save. Then open this page again and switch "Wireless Stereo" on.
Save it. On your car radio is the sign of "Wireless Stereo" again. I know, it´s crazy but it works.

wireless stereo
I checked setup yesterday: select "Wireless Stereo" on the radio then push
knob "6" (station channel) and your "Wireless Stereo" is "on" again.

Damn... Your right
Switching to "BT AUDIO" on the radio and pressing 6 ('pause' as it also says above it) switches it on again - Thanks a million mate
...any chance I can start playback using the buttons on the radio too?

just need to hold 6 once their paired once and will always be reconised again.
I have installed steering wheel controlls and this lets me controll playback on the phone (skiping tracks ect). Nice kit

holding button calls last number. Pressing quickly lets you use voice activation.

Has anyone got the voice activation to actually work on the Kaiser? I can't get it tow work.
I'm using Hyper Dragon III (Opal) which didn't have any voice software installed so I got MS Voice command on there.
The voice dialing doesn't work
I installed cyperion or whatever it's called aswell as the MS Voice command and that doesn't work either
Any help would be great!

Help with Sony MEX-BT3600U Bluetooth Calling
Please help me solve this issue with my Sony MEX-BT3600u. I recently installed the head unit, everything is connected and works fine, but every time I try to call someone i cannot hear the person but the they can hear me. Now I've connected 2 apms and a cross over unit. I've connected the head unit by RCA Cable to the Cross-Over and then the 2 Amps are connected by RCA Cables to the Cross-Over, but instead of connecting the speakers to the unit I connected them directly to the amps instead.
Do I have to connect the a pair of speakers to the head so that I can hear the person I called?
Please help..
Thanks

Diamond Bluetooth HeadSet Bug

Ok, not sure if anyone got the same problem as mine, but here is my problem:
I have a Diamond using AZTOR v7 Rom, radio vBS14 if that matters and Sony Ericsson DS205 as my headset. I start my bluetooth on my diamond and can pair up with the DS205 without any problem. I can also listen to music without lag and sound is also crystal and solid.
When there is a call kicks in, I can answer the call by pressing a button on my DS205..... However, the problem comes when I end my call, the headset will be disconnected afterward and I have to manually press a button on the DS205 to make it reconnect. Each time when I make a call or when I receive a call the headset will be disconnected.
Luckily (or not), I found a workaround: Whenever I pair up my headset, I need to go to Setting -> Bluetooth -> and "Refresh" the services that I want to enable on the DS205 headset. That involves un-checking the services enabled (including "Wireless Stereo" and "Hands Free") and re-checking the services again. After I have done this "resetting", the disconnection problem I described above will be gone.....
Each time I restart the phone or have the bluetooh disabled on the phone, I need to go through that manual procedure again to make my headset work perfectly.
As you can imagine, that is quite annoying.......does anyone have the same problem as me?

I don't have this problem, but i have another problem, when i use the orignal rom, i can use my headset(jabra bt3030) in my diamond and it will automatically connect to use hands free and wireless stereo mode when i turn on bluetooth, so when i change to use swift 7.5 full rom, i have to resetting the bluetooth in diamond everytime when i close bluetooth

I can only get wireless stereo for my Plantronics Bluetooth Stereo headset. Any ideas why I can't get hands-free. Radio issue?
It was possible with some earlier ROM, but I can't remember which... (yes, I'm a flashing addict).

I'm having the same exact problem & it's annoying as hell. At this point, I can't get the bluetooth function on the phone to activate at all. I use the same bluetooth on another phone with no problems whatsoever, so I know it's the phone. I'm running the original rom.....not a flasher.

Have you tried Jetware?

Sorry, just installing this doesn't change anything. Still no hands-free.
Is there a specific option you want us to set?
shinji_lee said:
Have you tried Jetware?
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lit2fly said:
... Each time when I make a call or when I receive a call the headset will be disconnected.
Luckily (or not), I found a workaround: Whenever I pair up my headset, I need to go to Setting -> Bluetooth -> and "Refresh" the services that I want to enable on the DS205 headset. That involves un-checking the services enabled (including "Wireless Stereo" and "Hands Free") and re-checking the services again. After I have done this "resetting", the disconnection problem I described above will be gone.....
Each time I restart the phone or have the bluetooh disabled on the phone, I need to go through that manual procedure again to make my headset work perfectly.
As you can imagine, that is quite annoying.......does anyone have the same problem as me?
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Yes - I have a very similar problem with my jabra SP700. The Diamond 'forgets' the wireless bluetooth mode every time I disconnect the two devices (although the Stereo Bluetooth icon is still showing in the status bar).
For a short while I was having to re-pair the devices every time I got in the car - until I found the same workaround as you.
There must be a proper solution???

Hello, I had that problem in my HTC Diamond with Pioneer DEH-700bt and my jabra 3030 and she solves when changing in the registry the key to it that identifies the device in pocketpc HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Sys the key "COD" and I introduced the value decimal 5898764 that identifies the device in smartphone
luck

juanfervs said:
Hello, I had that problem in my HTC Diamond with Pioneer DEH-700bt and my jabra 3030 and she solves when changing in the registry the key to it that identifies the device in pocketpc HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Sys the key "COD" and I introduced the value decimal 5898764 that identifies the device in smartphone
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I have this value in COD key but I have the problem anyway.
Any solution to this annoying problem?

i use my diamond with my bluetooth handsfree kit in the car, it is classed on the phone as a headset though. the sound is ok, a bit echoey but ok. but the microphone doesnt seem to pick up my voice, i have to really shout for people to hear me, on my old Xda Orbit it worked fine. any ideas?

Autoconnect A2DP when in range?

Hey Guys!
Is there a way to tell WM6 to automatically route Audio through A2DP as soon as a paired device supporting the profile is connected?
Clarification:
When using a Hands-Free-Headsetfor telephony you can pair it once, then turn it off, after that it is automatically connected to the phone as soon as you turn it on again.
In contrast to that a Bluetooth Stereo headset is not automatically connected, you have to manually activate it in Bluetooth Settings first before you can listen to music through it.
Especially with my car stereo used as "A2DP Headset" (which loses power every time the ignition is turned off) this can get highly annoying.
Is there a way to tell Windows to automatically "use" A2DP-Peripherals when available?

Try A2DP Toggle: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
The Today-plugin migt reconnect automatically, but it has a memory-leak...
To easily manually reconnect, you can create a shortcut to the exe:
\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe
Then you can put that program on your today screen easily.
And if you want a nice icon with that shortcut, you can change the shortcut file to:
53#"\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe" "-a2dp:1"?\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\settings.exe,-0

downloadtest82 said:
Hey Guys!
Is there a way to tell WM6 to automatically route Audio through A2DP as soon as a paired device supporting the profile is connected?
Clarification:
When using a Hands-Free-Headsetfor telephony you can pair it once, then turn it off, after that it is automatically connected to the phone as soon as you turn it on again.
In contrast to that a Bluetooth Stereo headset is not automatically connected, you have to manually activate it in Bluetooth Settings first before you can listen to music through it.
Especially with my car stereo used as "A2DP Headset" (which loses power every time the ignition is turned off) this can get highly annoying.
Is there a way to tell Windows to automatically "use" A2DP-Peripherals when available?
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Yep. The WM bluetooth stack sucks. It works better with some stereos though. I tried it out in the store with I believe a Pioneer (with bluetooth 2.0) and it was perfect. Turned it on and a2dp connects. Switch to another input and a2dp disconnects. Switch back to bluetooth audio and it connects. It was flawless. I ended up ordering the kenwood built in bluetooth unit (bluetooth v1.2) and it is terrible. I must manually toggle the bluetooth connection (I use a program that I wrote to do so, kinda similar to the above the above poster posted). Also, sometimes after a call comes in it wont reconnect. Sometimes i must power off then on the headunit a few times. Wasnt this thing supposed to make things easier?! A real shame because I love everyting else about the kenwood head unit. It works better with some ROMs on my phone (this is with a tilt; xperia on the way ).

Yeah, A2DP Toggle works for me as well, It's just dumb that this phone cant just do that itself. My old W880i could! I'm using a Sony DR-BT21G headset

JKingDev said:
A real shame because I love everyting else about the kenwood head unit. It works better with some ROMs on my phone (this is with a tilt; xperia on the way ).
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A story to learn before you you buy the head-unit I spent almost an hour at Fry's to try many units w/ my Tilt as well (Sony, Pioneer, Kenwood, JVC ...etc) and ordered online w/ the JVC unit. Excellent sound (compare to other model) but disconnect after phone call issue exist. I believe it's HTC fault since my Eten M600 (MS BT stack) and Asus P525 (Widcomm) doesn't have this issue (but others....). But I got to admitted HTC one do have the best sound quality.
BTW, my JVC BT-1 will auto connect my X1/Tilt when I start my car and I think it serve my purpose.

Solution
wensing said:
Try A2DP Toggle: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
The Today-plugin migt reconnect automatically, but it has a memory-leak...
To easily manually reconnect, you can create a shortcut to the exe:
\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe
Then you can put that program on your today screen easily.
And if you want a nice icon with that shortcut, you can change the shortcut file to:
53#"\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe" "-a2dp:1"?\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\settings.exe,-0
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I have created an application wich runs the commandline setting automaticly, so you never have to do anything again it connects automaticly. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502549