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How can I increase the storage space in BA wm5

Get rid of EXTROM. Make it from 16mb to 128kb. That will add the remaining to your storage space. It tells you how to do it in the wiki under Blue Angel.

Thank u but already I made it 4 MB only,there is now way like in 2003

You mean take memory from Program and add to Storage? I wish I knew a way since I only really use 35mb of 100mb of available Program memory. I have not found of a tut.

If you delete the partition of your extrom the free space after hard reset makes the storage bigger, another way of extending storage is the ramdrive, but i do not know hoe to do it in Wm2003

try this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49990&highlight=

xplode said:
...another way of extending storage is the ramdrive, but i do not know hoe to do it in Wm2003
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Hi, can you please link me to the how-to? I'd love to have IE and Opera cache in ramdrive.
thanks

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WM5: Out of storage memory, 100 meg program memory!

Can I change the balance between storage memory and program memory? I don't need all that for programs, but I need more for storage!
WM5 installas all programs to FLASH, it only run them in RAM, and you cannot install to RAM.
However: most programs that are not todat-plugins or stay resident, can run perfectly well from storage card (SD).
i run ALL programs from SD, except for these few that are resident..
Thanks, but it's the document storage I need. I have a few SD cards, but there is a lot of stuff I need to have no matter what SD card that's in the reader. Does that mean that I can't use that extra memory?
somebody was talking about the possibility for a RAM-drive - I would suggest you search for that article .. that would fix your problem.
AlCapone said:
somebody was talking about the possibility for a RAM-drive - I would suggest you search for that article .. that would fix your problem.
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that works, but is only a temperary solution, when you soft reset, you loose everything, i made the mistake of moving all my documents into the folder it created, and when i soft reset, i lost everything, some very very valuble pics i wanted to keep got lost.
Then that's not the solution. Gotta rethink this stuff...

What is "Program Memory" used for?

Sorry for this stupid question, I did search but I seemed not find any thread regarding my question.
Can someone tell me what is Program Memory is used for, I have a lot of free space in that, and I don't know where is that. All my files and my software seem to be on the Storage, but I only have 60Mb of it, there is another 90Mb free on the program memory.
Thanks.
Programs uses this as RAM when they are running. Just like on PC.
In WM 2003 i can install software on this RAM and run them directly from it. Plus I can store files in it as well as in the Storage. Is there anyway I can make this RAM usable for storing files and installing software? I heard from others that they can adjust this RAM to make it smaller and give some space to the Storage. Here is the source :
http://handheldvn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30214
Source is in Vietnamese so most of you might not understand, just for reference.
Thanks
As I understand it, 'RAM' and 'Storage' occupy the same bit of hardware. Your PPC increases the space available to each area as you fill it up..
It doesnt seem to quite make sense to have it that way, but thats how it seems to me. Anyone wanna correct me?
It has to do with WM5 persistent storage. The storage memory and program memory has to be seperated.
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=102947

[ASK] Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Yo All!
Is there a *Clean* version of WM6.1 Pro? It is better for the users to have their own softwares to install.. Cos, its a waste of space if we don't use 'em... Well, its just an opinion.. Thank You! Especially for Syed Ather and c_shekhar..
If i had my Hima rite now...u would have had a Clean ROM with The latest build by tonight
i can cook a perfect rom in less than 25 minutes
Thank You Very Much!! I'll be waitin'!
you dnt understand...I dnt have a Hima any more ( broke it while repairing )
crazyboy12345 said:
Yo All!
Is there a *Clean* version of WM6.1 Pro? It is better for the users to have their own softwares to install.. Cos, its a waste of space if we don't use 'em... Well, its just an opinion.. Thank You! Especially for Syed Ather and c_shekhar..
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May I update you here.
The ROM is of Fixed size and takes the same quantum of space on device whether loaded with applications or not. Thats why The efforts always remain to utilize every bit of spare space in ROM by packing in it the application softwares/utilities.
If you take an absolutely clean ROM and install the same applications on it separately, you land up wasting the precious storage memory. And you know very well that on Hima the storage memory is only 30MB. So packing as many utilities as possible inside the ROM is always useful.
You would be surprised to know that on my device I have embedded following utilities inside the ROM (customised for my use)
1. Phatpad
2. Smart secretary
3. neotiles (a game)
4. Handy Shoppers
5. rlToday 1.22
6. Call SMS blocker
And with more than 600 cotacts mail/sms synchronization still have abt 11MB of storage free.
I hope it can give you some idea on this issue.
Yes I agree with you master c_shekhar. but you should pack the utilities of most intrest in the ROM. It is good that you have removed many of those junky types in your new release.
I have downloaded the new version 6.1.2a16CS which is a new build 19209. And shall report you once I flash it.
Hi guys, maybe you could try another ROM from PDAVIET forum.
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=23970
c_shekhar said:
May I update you here.
The ROM is of Fixed size and takes the same quantum of space on device whether loaded with applications or not. Thats why The efforts always remain to utilize every bit of spare space in ROM by packing in it the application softwares/utilities.
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Okay... I'm currently downloading yours... The WM6.1 6.1.2a16CS .... it looks promising!
it would be cool if we could put the contents of the ExtRom to an SD-Card and decide for ourselves what software we want on our Phones, that would be great.
You can, very easily, as with the previous rom
c_shekhar said:
May I update you here.
The ROM is of Fixed size and takes the same quantum of space on device whether loaded with applications or not. Thats why The efforts always remain to utilize every bit of spare space in ROM by packing in it the application softwares/utilities.
If you take an absolutely clean ROM and install the same applications on it separately, you land up wasting the precious storage memory. And you know very well that on Hima the storage memory is only 30MB. So packing as many utilities as possible inside the ROM is always useful.
You would be surprised to know that on my device I have embedded following utilities inside the ROM (customised for my use)
1. Phatpad
2. Smart secretary
3. neotiles (a game)
4. Handy Shoppers
5. rlToday 1.22
6. Call SMS blocker
And with more than 600 cotacts mail/sms synchronization still have abt 11MB of storage free.
I hope it can give you some idea on this issue.
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A fresh clean minimal rom would be good for messing around with Ather90's and others rom kitchens c_shekhar, mabey you could post one made with the latest build 19209
Jadel said:
You can, very easily, as with the previous rom
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thanks for clearing that up
my question is if u put lots of programs into the program memory, and cook it, will the device become slow like hell?
boby1911 said:
my question is if u put lots of programs into the program memory, and cook it, will the device become slow like hell?
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Dont mix up the things.
The ROM size is fixed. So it does not affect the program memory.
If you simultaneously keep active many programs then the free program memory get reduced. And if the free Prog memory is too less then the device becomes very very slow.
AND, The device may become slow even if you are not left with sufficient Storage memory. So availablity of both type of memory is important..
if i may add:
ROM: (Read Only Memory)
Size: 30 MB
Purpose: Keeps all installer files (Operating System, Applications) runs only after every HARD RESET.
Features: Cannot be ERASED except my FLASHING. (in step 2 at flash, it says..erasing ROM data)
RAM: (Random Access Memory)
Size: 128 MB (distributed to Program Memory, Storage memory, Ramdisk)
Program Memory needed by device to run programs (like DDR module in a computer), this is reset every time you reset your device.
Storage Memory, is used to store programs installed in device (like a harddisk in a computer), this is soft and supposedly hard reset persistent.
RamDisk, is a storage disk that is generated by converting some RAM as storage area. (much like a 2nd harddisk for installing programs), this is soft and hard reset persistent, which IMO is dependent on the state of your backup battery, mine loses data most of the time.
so total memory you have in XDA 2 is:
ROM 30MB
RAM 128MB
in wm2003 and previous ROMS, this is defined as:
ROM 30MB
RAM 128MB - 64MB program, 64MB storage, with slider provided to move memory allocation.
in wm5,6,6.1
ROM 30MB
RAM 128MB = PROGRAM+STORAGE+RAMDISK
i hope i get this right, but this is how i understand this, corrections would be welcome.
paulpax said:
if i may add:
in wm5,6,6.1
ROM 30MB
RAM 128MB = PROGRAM+STORAGE+RAMDISK
i hope i get this right, but this is how i understand this, corrections would be welcome.
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STORAGE is not part of RAM. Rest of understanding is OK...

Official WM6.1 from HTC for Kaiser and amount of RAM issue...

Hello,
As you know Kaiser has 128MB of RAM. When you open Memory in settings then you can see that there is only 85.32MB of Program memory. So where is 42,68MB of RAM? Is all gone for pagepool in this ROM?
Best regards.
Just like yr desktop, everything runs on the machine need memory (RAM). OS (WM6.1), driver, start-up program, phone dialer, today ... etc.
jackleung said:
Just like yr desktop, everything runs on the machine need memory (RAM). OS (WM6.1), driver, start-up program, phone dialer, today ... etc.
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You are talking about "in use" memory. I am talking about total memory what you can see in memory in settings...
After soft reset i have:
Total: 85.32 MB
In Use: 38:93 MB
Free: 46.39 MB
Anybody can explain me why total memory is only 85.32?
art12345 said:
You are talking about "in use" memory. I am talking about total memory what you can see in memory in settings...
After soft reset i have:
Total: 85.32 MB
In Use: 38:93 MB
Free: 46.39 MB
Anybody can explain me why total memory is only 85.32?
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I know exactly what you are talking about. In older ROMs 6.0 and I believe some of the older 6.1, that amount was closer to the 100MB mark.
Part of that (about 12MB) is used for page pool. However almost that amount was used on the older ROMs as well, so wouldn't account for the almost 15MB disparity we see.
I have asked this question myself a couple times in the ROM development forum...no one has provided an answer. Some suggest that they are using that RAM as additional 'cache' ram of one type or another to improve performance. That seems like it could be a logical reason since whenever you increase other cache's in the registry it takes memory out of that same chunk. The other answer could be that there are newer or more low level drivers that for one reason or another are taking up that RAM.
Fact is no one knows. My bet is on cache of some point, although i can't really say that I see an improvement that would warrant that 15MB of use. There's not much you can do about it at this point other than live with the diminished memory or flash an older ROM.
Before i had HTC Himalaya (128MB of RAM) with WM5 and there when you set up 16MB pagepool then all rest of RAM (112MB) was available in memory applet. I never tried Himalaya with WM6 ROM so i can't tell how much memory was available then. However, thanks for your reply. Regards.

I'm running out of main memory!!!!

Hello everyone,
I have only 7 MB left from my main memory and although I installed all programs into my internal storage, the main memory keeps shrinking each time.
what should I do to expand my main memory or what files should I remove?
Thanks
You may store too much data on your main memory. move all your photos, musics to internal storgae
If you do a lot of browsing dont forget to clear the cached files.
emails?
Are you synchronizing email? Because, even if you configure the attachments to be stored in internal memory, the actual body text is still stored in RAM.
Check \Windows\Messaging for data...
If so, you need to fix this in the Registry, check the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427424
help!
my diamond keeps popping up a warning that my storage memory is low. When i look at memory it shows storage total 92.05 MB in use 90.22 MB free 1.84 MB Program total 203.84 MB in use 84.15 MB free 119.69 MB.
What gives? What is eating up that storage total? I only have a few apps installed (Registry Edit, Dashwire, Advanced Config, google maps, wmwifirouter, app to date, diamond tf3d config and .net 3.5.) This is on a Sprint Diamond.
do you downloud video from youtube player ?
they say that youtube player have somesort of bug that stores all caches (video) on window folder and you cant delete it or find it
someone correct me if im wrong !
um not really only a few timmes have i used youtube.
stuckonashelf said:
help!
my diamond keeps popping up a warning that my storage memory is low. When i look at memory it shows storage total 92.05 MB in use 90.22 MB free 1.84 MB Program total 203.84 MB in use 84.15 MB free 119.69 MB.
What gives? What is eating up that storage total? I only have a few apps installed (Registry Edit, Dashwire, Advanced Config, google maps, wmwifirouter, app to date, diamond tf3d config and .net 3.5.) This is on a Sprint Diamond.
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bro im having EXACT same prom with the same programs loaded...its almost unuseable at ths point wtf i cannot find these memory hogs and ive searched almost entire windows directory too
A great little app. I found is "Memory Monger" (do a search for the thread with a download). It graphically shows what's in your memory (internal or main). I used it to see which were the big files and moved them to internal storage and made shortcuts in their original folders.
Rob
hey thanks! i will try it.
too late? maybe, but here goes. I found the solution to MY problem with low "storage memory". I had to first do a soft reset because I didn't even have enough free to launch Opera (only .02MB free!). Once i soft reset, i could launch Opera and proceed to clear cache, cookies, and history. after that, it freed up 23MB!! I'm back in business now. Hope this helps someone else besides me!

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