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I try finding out information about push to talk and microsoft direct push. But I don't understand. What do these features do?

ZzFDKzZ said:
I try finding out information about push to talk and microsoft direct push. But I don't understand. What do these features do?
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Howdy. Here's a simplified explanation...hope it helps.
Direct Push is push a feature in Exchange Server SP2 and compatible Windows Mobile 5(now) and Palm(soon) devices. It delivers Exchange data (mail, calendar, tasks, contacts) to a device as soo as they arrive or are changed on the Exchange server. Think Blackberry.
Push to Talk is a "walkie talkie" type of service, provided on compatible phones. Think Nextel. Most carriers other than Nextel are doing it over IP, and I think Nextel is moving in that direction.
Does that clear things up for ya?

Oh I got it now thanks! Do the push to talk with cingular work with other companies? or just cingular to cingular?

ZzFDKzZ said:
Oh I got it now thanks! Do the push to talk with cingular work with other companies? or just cingular to cingular?
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Just Cingular to Cingular.

Oh ok thanks for the info!

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WM6 HTML Email Question

First of thanks to all you guys for such an amazing forum, I really have learned a great deal from reading the posts.
That said, I'm running WM6 PV3 version on my MDA with push mail enabled from an exchange server (mail2web). I receive mail no problem but am unable to view HTML mail, I thought that was a feature of of WM6? I have a "Get HTML" under Menu/View, but it's grayed out - what gives? Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks all!
The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.
mplep said:
The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.
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That's what I figured. Thanks for saving me a great deal of aggravation in trying to fix WM6 when the issue is with the Exchange server.
mplep said:
The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.
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Thank you, I was just getting ready to SEARCH all over creation. But your answer saved me a lot of time...
mail2web Exchange Servers
When will you upgrade to Microsoft Exchange 2007?
Answer: mail2web.com is planning to upgrade all customers from our current Exchange 2003 platform to the new Microsoft Exchange 2007 platform, after its release. All customers Business Exchange Professional customers will receive a free upgrade to Outlook 2007. Microsoft Exchange 2007 is expected to be released in early 2007. The timing of this upgrade is still to be determined and is in part dependant on the release date of Exchange 2007.
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anyone know of any services that offer exchange 2007 push mail. how about 4SmartPhone?
mplep said:
The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.
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You should add it to the wiki
--M
grinny11 said:
anyone know of any services that offer exchange 2007 push mail. how about 4SmartPhone?
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they don't (so far) - I am using it - no HTML here...
thanks DoctorT
there is an article here
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/lab20070207002377.htm
that suggests that their service does offer html email. i was about to sign up for it to try it out. i really want push html email.
grinny11 said:
thanks DoctorT
there is an article here
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/lab20070207002377.htm
that suggests that their service does offer html email. i was about to sign up for it to try it out. i really want push html email.
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that's what I got from the support:
First mail:
According to that site and others that have tested WM6 on 4SmartPhone, if you are using a legitimate version of WM6 you get HTML email for ActiveSync. That feature does not require Exchange 2007.
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After telling them that this doesn't make sense I got a second mail:
We do not offer Exchange 2007 to our customers yet, and we know that some features of WM6 (like server-side mailbox search) do require Exchange 2007 to work.
However, HTML email does work on WM6 devices when used in conjunction with Exchange 2003 SP2, and that is what the people who reported did, using a normal 4SmartPhone account.
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4smartphone
I just tried the 4smartphone Pro service to see if it would work for me on WM6I would love to be able to get my HTML mail but I believe this really is a feature we will need to wait for Exchange 2007 to provide. Does anyone know a way to get HTML mail to work? I am using emoze right now and love the push mail,Calendar, tasks that it pushes through. I dont like leaving my computer on but its on most of the time anyway. If anyone has a better inexpensive solution I would love to hear it. Thanks to all in this forum I am just a big nooooob here and love all this stuff.
grinny11 said:
anyone know of any services that offer exchange 2007 push mail. how about 4SmartPhone?
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I ordered an account from this outfit today
http://www.itsolutionsnow.com
I will let you know how it works out.
I have been using mailstreet but I don't want to wait around for them to upgrade.
http://www.itsolutionsnow.com offers unlimited storage and wireless active sync for only $10 a month USD
Mailstreet is $13 a month for 100meg $4 a month for wireless active sync and $6 a month for an extra 100 meg
I got my new setup instructions very quickly from them and this guy billy was very helpful in setting up some special features for me.
It works great. I love the new outlook web access also. Setup was a snap. From my experience so far I would recomend this company.
Computer9Cowboy are you getting HTML mail through the service? I tried 1and1 and 4smartphone and could not get the HTML part to work on WM6. Please let me know if this works. Thanks,
cyrexpl said:
First of thanks to all you guys for such an amazing forum, I really have learned a great deal from reading the posts.
That said, I'm running WM6 PV3 version on my MDA with push mail enabled from an exchange server (mail2web). I receive mail no problem but am unable to view HTML mail, I thought that was a feature of of WM6? I have a "Get HTML" under Menu/View, but it's grayed out - what gives? Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks all!
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If you can live without push mail, POP3 already supports html email. It doesnt matter what server you use. I host my own email on a FreeBSD box here at home. I just have WM6 set to check mail every 15 minutes. I personally dont feel the need to know about email the split second it arrives, so POP3 works for me.
mickeyace said:
Computer9Cowboy are you getting HTML mail through the service? I tried 1and1 and 4smartphone and could not get the HTML part to work on WM6. Please let me know if this works. Thanks,
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Yes indeed ITSolutionsNow has Exchange 2007, I can do HTML Email, I can set flags on messages and I can do server side search from the device. Plus I merged my archive back in to my account because they support unlimited storage. I don't have to worry about staying under my limit or purchasing extra space.
d0ug said:
If you can live without push mail, POP3 already supports html email. It doesnt matter what server you use. I host my own email on a FreeBSD box here at home. I just have WM6 set to check mail every 15 minutes. I personally dont feel the need to know about email the split second it arrives, so POP3 works for me.
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Exchange is more than push email it is contacts and calendar also. If I add new info to a contact in outlook it is on my device in seconds. When I add a new date in my calendar on my device it is on my computer in seconds. The new ability to flag messages from the device is pretty useful also.
On a sidenote I've just heard back from mail2web that they are currently testing Exchange 2007 and that they should be going live with it in the summer.
computer9cowboy said:
Yes indeed ITSolutionsNow has Exchange 2007, I can do HTML Email, I can set flags on messages and I can do server side search from the device. Plus I merged my archive back in to my account because they support unlimited storage. I don't have to worry about staying under my limit or purchasing extra space.
Exchange is more than push email it is contacts and calendar also. If I add new info to a contact in outlook it is on my device in seconds. When I add a new date in my calendar on my device it is on my computer in seconds. The new ability to flag messages from the device is pretty useful also.
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I understand that. I guess it just all depends on how you are using your device. Those features are a lot more useful for a business environment. I use mine for personal use. As infrequently as I update my calendar and contacts, cable syncing is fine for that, and pop3 is adequate email for my uses.
I do understand the advantages of push mail and contacts/calendar syncing. I have a blackberry 7520 that I use for work, and as the exchange and BES server admin, I could easily setup push mail on my XDA, the only problem is I need use of the direct connect radio in the 7520, so for now I keep the 7520 for work use, and the XDA for personal use.
trapper said:
On a sidenote I've just heard back from mail2web that they are currently testing Exchange 2007 and that they should be going live with it in the summer.
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Yes Mailstreet says they will have it by June.
I have to say that IT Solutions Now is the best deal that I have seen for hosted exchange anywhere, Unlimited storage is huge.
DoctorT said:
that's what I got from the support:
According to that site and others that have tested WM6 on 4SmartPhone, if you are using a legitimate version of WM6 you get HTML email for ActiveSync. That feature does not require Exchange 2007.
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And this is why I'm leaving 4smartphone in 2 weeks when my yearly subscription is expired. I told them that I would like to have HTML email and they told me that they are not deploying 2007 for another 6 months. I'm a reseller for intermedia.net so I'm going to switch over to them.

getting email with tzones

i searched the forums but i still dont understand how is that you get to use your pop email like hotmail with the 5.99 tzones plan.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
frozinwater said:
i searched the forums but i still dont understand how is that you get to use your pop email like hotmail with the 5.99 tzones plan.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hotmail is not a pop server.
Setting up a pop server is not completed, you just set it up through the settings of your SMS/MMS/Email manager... Whether you're using tzones or a regular internet thing, it doesn't matter.
oh so i dont have to set up any kind of specific settings.. just do like i would with the total internet for 19.99..? (and im assuming hotmail wont work with this then..?)
frozinwater said:
oh so i dont have to set up any kind of specific settings.. just do like i would with the total internet for 19.99..? (and im assuming hotmail wont work with this then..?)
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Exactly. Same as the 19.99 package.
I use mail2web. Being that its an exchange server, you get the emails exactly when they come in and you can synchronize your contacts, calendar and stuff.
aad4321 said:
not that this has to do with anything, but a friend of mine who has verizon, they have the plan where its 15.99 for unlimited tv, data, and gps. i think thats a great deal
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Paid for GPS?
ivanmmj said:
Exactly. Same as the 19.99 package.
I use mail2web. Being that its an exchange server, you get the emails exactly when they come in and you can synchronize your contacts, calendar and stuff.
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But you need to setup the proxy, don't you?
Yes, for an exchange server you do.

Push Email

Hi,
Has anyone tried Momail - its a free push email facility. I have set up an account and configured my xda stellar but it isn't 'pushing' the email. Push icon is greyed out in Comm manager but I guess you need something like exchange server details or Blackberry Connect to activate that.
Here is the link to Momail if anyone is interested. http://www.momail.co.uk/page/how_it_works.asp?m=2
I have done a search but havent found any posts specifically on this service, would be interested in any views or advice.
Looks like they use IMAP. Personally thats never seemed to be as reliable for PUSH (when supported) as when using MS Exchange with OTA Activesync.
PsyOpWarlord said:
Looks like they use IMAP. Personally thats never seemed to be as reliable for PUSH (when supported) as when using MS Exchange with OTA Activesync.
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Thanks PsyOpWarlord, I have raised a query with Momail we will se what they say.

configuring Outlook for OWA

Hi All,
I apologize for posting here for a simple thing. I hv HTC Touch Diamond. I want to configure Outlook for my email, calendar etc with my corporate exchange server. Assuming I dont want to synchronize through activesync on my PC. Because from a PC I want to check mails using OWA. If I am not at my desk I want to receive emails on to my mobile.
I have tried all various ways of configuring it. One search has asked me to enable OMA(Outlook Mobile Access) on my corporate exchange server which is not in my hands.
Using GPRS is there a way I can receive corporate emails on to my HTC Diamond ?
Regards
ravi
s_ravi_kumar said:
Hi All,
I apologize for posting here for a simple thing. I hv HTC Touch Diamond. I want to configure Outlook for my email, calendar etc with my corporate exchange server. Assuming I dont want to synchronize through activesync on my PC. Because from a PC I want to check mails using OWA. If I am not at my desk I want to receive emails on to my mobile.
I have tried all various ways of configuring it. One search has asked me to enable OMA(Outlook Mobile Access) on my corporate exchange server which is not in my hands.
Using GPRS is there a way I can receive corporate emails on to my HTC Diamond ?
Regards
ravi
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but you might wanna use this app: Mobipush
http://www.mobipush.com
It's like a push mail server which will forward any mail to your Diamond...it's free of charge...just give it a try...I'm using it and I love it...
Good luck
Regards,
Jeroen
Pietje_1985 said:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but you might wanna use this app: Mobipush
http://www.mobipush.com
It's like a push mail server which will forward any mail to your Diamond...it's free of charge...just give it a try...I'm using it and I love it...
Good luck
Regards,
Jeroen
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No Luck. It errors out saying it cannot get IMAP server details.
s_ravi_kumar said:
No Luck. It errors out saying it cannot get IMAP server details.
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By the way, My company uses BlackBerry.
s_ravi_kumar said:
No Luck. It errors out saying it cannot get IMAP server details.
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s_ravi_kumar said:
By the way, My company uses BlackBerry.
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Ahh..I see....well than for now I cant offer you a solution.... sorry...
Keep us posted about your progress allright?
Thanks mate!
Jeroen
b.t.w. if you gonna use the app, type in your server details manually...than (for me) it should work
Thanks Jeroen. I will post any progress I make. Btw isnt it frustrating ? I have WM and outlook in installed , internet is available on mobile and my company uses Exchange Server still I cant receive emails on my mobile.
hmm.. I am sure there will be other people who are interested in or already using by some way.
Thanks again Jeroen.
-Ravi
Although your company uses exchange they need to configure OMA on their servers. Although you say they have OWA that doesnt mean it will work on your mobile. they also need to have a specific version/service pack level on their exchange server.
The fact they use blackberrys suggests they havnt configured the OMA part that you need. If they did then your company will be the only ones who can help you as they will need to supply you with the OMA server address (usually different to your OWA one) and in many cases a certificate to use.
There really is nothing we can do, its all down to your companys IT department.
This is what you have to do:
Go to your Systems Administrator and ask him whether it's possible to receive email on your diamond. Minimal requirements are:
1. Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 with SP2 installed
2. OWA and Mobile access enabled for your user account on your corportate network.
3. The root certificate of your Certificate Authority. This can be a third party certificate like Verisign or one from your own CA within your corporate network.
4. OWA certificate. This is probably the same ssl certificate you use when you try to access your corporate email from the internet like https://webmail.corporate.com
You have to import both the root certificate as well as the webmail certificate on your diamond and configure the settings.
I have configured this many times for my users with both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 and works great.
Good luck and don't hesitate if you need more info.
The others are right in saying that OWA needs to be configured and available. The other snafu is if there is a cert or not... for example, my company does not use a cerrt and had a re-direct... so the real URL is:
http://mail.mycompany.com/exchange
but they publish the URL as
http://mail.mycomany.com
which has a redirect page to the above URL. You need to make sure you have the full URL: http://mail.mycompany.com/exchange when you configure mail and *IF* they have a cert or not... by default I beleive WM6 assumes a cert.
Thanks all for the suggestions. I have asked my company to enable OMA and configure it. But since we are a blackberry shop they said that they cant do it. Mean while I saw BBConnect for Diamond. Can I use this on Diamond to receive emails. Is there anything extra I need to do to work with BBConnect apart from Internet availability on Diamond ?
-Ravi

email

I need to set-up my work email to deliver to my phone,
I tried the exchange email app with Cyan. Rom but I am not sure how to set it up, or if it is compaitable with our work email..
What are you other users doing about getting your work email
atlmatt said:
I need to set-up my work email to deliver to my phone,
I tried the exchange email app with Cyan. Rom but I am not sure how to set it up, or if it is compaitable with our work email..
What are you other users doing about getting your work email
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are you talking abt microsoft exxhange?
or a yahoo email etc..
atlmatt said:
I need to set-up my work email to deliver to my phone,
I tried the exchange email app with Cyan. Rom but I am not sure how to set it up, or if it is compaitable with our work email..
What are you other users doing about getting your work email
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Using the HTC "Work Mail" Exchange client ripped from MyTouch 3G. Also have a Moxier Mail license, but its a little bulkier than HTC Work Mail for my needs.
jashsu said:
Using the HTC "Work Mail" Exchange client ripped from MyTouch 3G. Also have a Moxier Mail license, but its a little bulkier than HTC Work Mail for my needs.
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I would like to use the WORK MAIL...
Just not sure how to set it up, domain name??? Server Name??
atlmatt said:
I would like to use the WORK MAIL...
Just not sure how to set it up, domain name??? Server Name??
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You need to ask your IT department at work for that info.
Chahk said:
You need to ask your IT department at work for that info.
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HA HA HA
IT dept....
I'll figure it out next time i am at the office.... Small construction company,
atlmatt said:
I would like to use the WORK MAIL...
Just not sure how to set it up, domain name??? Server Name??
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Generally speaking, if your company uses Exchange mail and has a web URL, then this is what you would enter:
(Example website url http://www.example.com/)
Server address: either mail.example.com -or- exchange.example.com
Domain: example.com
If those don't work, you'll probably need to ask whoever set up your company email what the proper settings are. If you are told some pop or imap settings, then that is not Exchange mail.

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