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WM6 HTML Email Question

First of thanks to all you guys for such an amazing forum, I really have learned a great deal from reading the posts.
That said, I'm running WM6 PV3 version on my MDA with push mail enabled from an exchange server (mail2web). I receive mail no problem but am unable to view HTML mail, I thought that was a feature of of WM6? I have a "Get HTML" under Menu/View, but it's grayed out - what gives? Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks all!

The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.

mplep said:
The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.
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That's what I figured. Thanks for saving me a great deal of aggravation in trying to fix WM6 when the issue is with the Exchange server.

mplep said:
The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.
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Thank you, I was just getting ready to SEARCH all over creation. But your answer saved me a lot of time...

mail2web Exchange Servers
When will you upgrade to Microsoft Exchange 2007?
Answer: mail2web.com is planning to upgrade all customers from our current Exchange 2003 platform to the new Microsoft Exchange 2007 platform, after its release. All customers Business Exchange Professional customers will receive a free upgrade to Outlook 2007. Microsoft Exchange 2007 is expected to be released in early 2007. The timing of this upgrade is still to be determined and is in part dependant on the release date of Exchange 2007.
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anyone know of any services that offer exchange 2007 push mail. how about 4SmartPhone?

mplep said:
The Exchange server needs to be running Exchange 2007 for HTML on WM6.
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You should add it to the wiki
--M

grinny11 said:
anyone know of any services that offer exchange 2007 push mail. how about 4SmartPhone?
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they don't (so far) - I am using it - no HTML here...

thanks DoctorT
there is an article here
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/lab20070207002377.htm
that suggests that their service does offer html email. i was about to sign up for it to try it out. i really want push html email.

grinny11 said:
thanks DoctorT
there is an article here
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/lab20070207002377.htm
that suggests that their service does offer html email. i was about to sign up for it to try it out. i really want push html email.
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that's what I got from the support:
First mail:
According to that site and others that have tested WM6 on 4SmartPhone, if you are using a legitimate version of WM6 you get HTML email for ActiveSync. That feature does not require Exchange 2007.
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After telling them that this doesn't make sense I got a second mail:
We do not offer Exchange 2007 to our customers yet, and we know that some features of WM6 (like server-side mailbox search) do require Exchange 2007 to work.
However, HTML email does work on WM6 devices when used in conjunction with Exchange 2003 SP2, and that is what the people who reported did, using a normal 4SmartPhone account.
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4smartphone
I just tried the 4smartphone Pro service to see if it would work for me on WM6I would love to be able to get my HTML mail but I believe this really is a feature we will need to wait for Exchange 2007 to provide. Does anyone know a way to get HTML mail to work? I am using emoze right now and love the push mail,Calendar, tasks that it pushes through. I dont like leaving my computer on but its on most of the time anyway. If anyone has a better inexpensive solution I would love to hear it. Thanks to all in this forum I am just a big nooooob here and love all this stuff.

grinny11 said:
anyone know of any services that offer exchange 2007 push mail. how about 4SmartPhone?
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I ordered an account from this outfit today
http://www.itsolutionsnow.com
I will let you know how it works out.
I have been using mailstreet but I don't want to wait around for them to upgrade.
http://www.itsolutionsnow.com offers unlimited storage and wireless active sync for only $10 a month USD
Mailstreet is $13 a month for 100meg $4 a month for wireless active sync and $6 a month for an extra 100 meg

I got my new setup instructions very quickly from them and this guy billy was very helpful in setting up some special features for me.
It works great. I love the new outlook web access also. Setup was a snap. From my experience so far I would recomend this company.

Computer9Cowboy are you getting HTML mail through the service? I tried 1and1 and 4smartphone and could not get the HTML part to work on WM6. Please let me know if this works. Thanks,

cyrexpl said:
First of thanks to all you guys for such an amazing forum, I really have learned a great deal from reading the posts.
That said, I'm running WM6 PV3 version on my MDA with push mail enabled from an exchange server (mail2web). I receive mail no problem but am unable to view HTML mail, I thought that was a feature of of WM6? I have a "Get HTML" under Menu/View, but it's grayed out - what gives? Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks all!
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If you can live without push mail, POP3 already supports html email. It doesnt matter what server you use. I host my own email on a FreeBSD box here at home. I just have WM6 set to check mail every 15 minutes. I personally dont feel the need to know about email the split second it arrives, so POP3 works for me.

mickeyace said:
Computer9Cowboy are you getting HTML mail through the service? I tried 1and1 and 4smartphone and could not get the HTML part to work on WM6. Please let me know if this works. Thanks,
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Yes indeed ITSolutionsNow has Exchange 2007, I can do HTML Email, I can set flags on messages and I can do server side search from the device. Plus I merged my archive back in to my account because they support unlimited storage. I don't have to worry about staying under my limit or purchasing extra space.
d0ug said:
If you can live without push mail, POP3 already supports html email. It doesnt matter what server you use. I host my own email on a FreeBSD box here at home. I just have WM6 set to check mail every 15 minutes. I personally dont feel the need to know about email the split second it arrives, so POP3 works for me.
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Exchange is more than push email it is contacts and calendar also. If I add new info to a contact in outlook it is on my device in seconds. When I add a new date in my calendar on my device it is on my computer in seconds. The new ability to flag messages from the device is pretty useful also.

On a sidenote I've just heard back from mail2web that they are currently testing Exchange 2007 and that they should be going live with it in the summer.

computer9cowboy said:
Yes indeed ITSolutionsNow has Exchange 2007, I can do HTML Email, I can set flags on messages and I can do server side search from the device. Plus I merged my archive back in to my account because they support unlimited storage. I don't have to worry about staying under my limit or purchasing extra space.
Exchange is more than push email it is contacts and calendar also. If I add new info to a contact in outlook it is on my device in seconds. When I add a new date in my calendar on my device it is on my computer in seconds. The new ability to flag messages from the device is pretty useful also.
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I understand that. I guess it just all depends on how you are using your device. Those features are a lot more useful for a business environment. I use mine for personal use. As infrequently as I update my calendar and contacts, cable syncing is fine for that, and pop3 is adequate email for my uses.
I do understand the advantages of push mail and contacts/calendar syncing. I have a blackberry 7520 that I use for work, and as the exchange and BES server admin, I could easily setup push mail on my XDA, the only problem is I need use of the direct connect radio in the 7520, so for now I keep the 7520 for work use, and the XDA for personal use.

trapper said:
On a sidenote I've just heard back from mail2web that they are currently testing Exchange 2007 and that they should be going live with it in the summer.
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Yes Mailstreet says they will have it by June.
I have to say that IT Solutions Now is the best deal that I have seen for hosted exchange anywhere, Unlimited storage is huge.

DoctorT said:
that's what I got from the support:
According to that site and others that have tested WM6 on 4SmartPhone, if you are using a legitimate version of WM6 you get HTML email for ActiveSync. That feature does not require Exchange 2007.
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And this is why I'm leaving 4smartphone in 2 weeks when my yearly subscription is expired. I told them that I would like to have HTML email and they told me that they are not deploying 2007 for another 6 months. I'm a reseller for intermedia.net so I'm going to switch over to them.

Can't get hotmail to work.

I have tried to make a new account, but afterwards it just forwards to the hotmail homepage. I want it to work with the integrated Outlook. And in the live program I'm using another account than hotmail to msn, so it won't do any good to check sync with email, when it's another account. What can I do?

It needs the config information. The easiest way to do it is with Windows Live for Windows Mobile. Search for WLM here or PM me & I'll send you a RS link. You want 10.6.033.2100 BTW.

Actually, I think you're SOL if you're already using WLM for another account. POP email isn't available for Hotmail accounts, only for MSN accounts.

unless you pay and upgrade to the 19.99 a year, you will not get POP access to any hotmail account

So my only solution is to pay up, or it will not work in outlook on TyTN?
I have it configured on my normal PC with no problems.

I just installed seven and it works great. I asked the same question on another board today.
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/htc-kaiser-tytn-ii-t-8925/222543-must-newbie-issue-email.html

Isn't there a plug for Outlook anyway? If you wanted to, just install it from Microsoft.
http://email.about.com/gi/dynamic/o...S74p5AsZCAG2yP5bLTnQvU6m2ivmwN3459c5fMw%3d%3d
And the seven solution for AT&T uses Xpress mail, which requires your Laptop to be On and Connected to the Network. What kind of crap is with the AT&T and Xpress mail?!
And good luck with the BETA program...

kaluzu said:
Isn't there a plug for Outlook anyway? If you wanted to, just install it from Microsoft.
http://email.about.com/gi/dynamic/o...S74p5AsZCAG2yP5bLTnQvU6m2ivmwN3459c5fMw%3d%3d
And the seven solution for AT&T uses Xpress mail, which requires your Laptop to be On and Connected to the Network. What kind of crap is with the AT&T and Xpress mail?!
And good luck with the BETA program...
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Okay, but can I install that link on my TyTN?

funny, i've never had problems w/ hotmail...... it's under windows live for my phone...

Okay, but my problems is, that when I log in to Live IM I don't use my hotmail account but another. Do you have a non hotmail Live IM account, and it still work?

Bjur said:
Okay, but my problems is, that when I log in to Live IM I don't use my hotmail account but another. Do you have a non hotmail Live IM account, and it still work?
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What do you mean you login with another account? You have an IM account and another email account?
maybe pocket MSN will work for you
(http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/software/pocketmsn.mspx)
Any Windows enabled phone should come with the Live Messenger enabled.
On the MS web site, there a lots of apps
(http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/software/default.mspx)

The Windows Live app only allows for 1 Hotmail/MSN/Live accont to be signed in at once. If you have a separate ID/account you use for IM and another for email you will have to switch accounts back and forth. This will obviously be a huge hassle and not worth the effort.
I would recommend downloading another instant messenging app and using the Windows Live app for your email account. Unless you pay $19.99 /year you can not get Hotmail emails to work with the WM messaging clients without signing into the Windows Live app.
Hope that helps clarify things.

Yes it does But I would like to perhaps use Skype as voip and chat and IM as hotmail tjecker, but do I just install Skype or should I also be using some voip.cab to get it to work?
Thanks for your help.

njmarchetti said:
The Windows Live app only allows for 1 Hotmail/MSN/Live accont to be signed in at once. If you have a separate ID/account you use for IM and another for email you will have to switch accounts back and forth. This will obviously be a huge hassle and not worth the effort.
I would recommend downloading another instant messenging app and using the Windows Live app for your email account. Unless you pay $19.99 /year you can not get Hotmail emails to work with the WM messaging clients without signing into the Windows Live app.
Hope that helps clarify things.
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True. However, I have gone on line & linked my Live & Hotmail ID's & have forwad set, so I get TWO accounts, one @live.com & one @hotmail.com accounts under one on my device.

GSLEON3 said:
True. However, I have gone on line & linked my Live & Hotmail ID's & have forwad set, so I get TWO accounts, one @live.com & one @hotmail.com accounts under one on my device.
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Good call on linking IDs. I completely forgot that you could get your emails all in one inbox. The only problem I could see would be not having the right email address show up on messages you send from the phone.

Can you quickly describe how you linked them?

kaluzu said:
unless you pay and upgrade to the 19.99 a year, you will not get POP access to any hotmail account
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i have had free hotmail synced with outlook before

microsoft push mail

i heard push mail is something similar to blackberry, instant email sort of a thing. my company has an exchange server running. how do i configure the push mail on my kaiser?

quickest way to get this sorted would be to speak to your IT department.

hellboyouch said:
i heard push mail is something similar to blackberry, instant email sort of a thing. my company has an exchange server running. how do i configure the push mail on my kaiser?
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Push e-mail need to be enabled on your exchange account as well as on your phone, and the IT department need to set up an OTA server in connection with the Exchange server.
So go see the IT guys

thanks
i'll do that and see how it goes?

aite
everything is setup from the tech side
what needs to be done on my handset to make it go through?

hellboyouch said:
aite
everything is setup from the tech side
what needs to be done on my handset to make it go through?
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You need to set up the account, and I think it's done in Activesync. Specifying the server (in my case it's ota.xxxxx.com), your exchange username (usually you e-mail account), your regular windows password and optionally the domain.
Then you get to chose which information you want pushed - email, calendar, to-do etc.
have fun

aite
checked everything
some back end ssl certificate issue i guess
nothing more i can do
admin guys will have to fix it

Get Your Live (Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc.) Email Without Using Live

Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
POP server: pop3.live.com (Port 995)
POP SSL required? Yes
User name: Your Windows Live ID, for example [email protected]
Password: The password you usually use to sign in to Hotmail or Windows Live
SMTP server: smtp.live.com (Port 25)
Authentication required? Yes (this matches your POP username and password)
TLS/SSL required? Yes
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Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users

This is great! Thanks for posting this, now I can free up a few megabytes on my device. I have always hated that I couldn't check my email on older devices that didn't support the live application, like my Mobilepro 900C. I was never a fan of the live app anyway, as I could never choose what happened to my mail on the servers if I deleted it on my device. Thanks,
Dave

How to get *all* sent emails to show up
Thanks for the heads-up regarding this. I'd heard Hotmail were going to offer a more standard form of POP/SMTP access one of these days. I've configured my Kaiser accordingly and it shows all my received emails fine and emails I've sent from my Kaiser fine but emails I've sent from my desktop PC do not show up in sent emails on the Kaiser. Is this what others are getting as well? How do I get all of my sent emails to show up as well?

Yea, only emails sent from the device will show up.
Glad to see other people find this useful as well.
You're welcome.

thank you so much
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.

josefcrist said:
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.
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No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.

-haze- said:
No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.
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hmm well good luck with that.

Synchronizing folders
I'm can setup my MSN e-mail accounts using the method mentioned earlier.
However, none of the my personal MSN e-mail folders show up for me.
They do if I set up the MSN e-mail using HTTP protocol (and use Adrian HTTPMail Provider) instead of POP3 protocol.
Does anyone know how to get the personal e-mail folders to show up and synchronize using POP3?

-haze- said:
Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users
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Man good looking for this -haze-. I read so many post here & there but yours did it for me!! Yea Yea..

best info ever
Thanks for posting this information. I have been searching for just this trick for quite a while and works like a charm A+

info is good but..
i cant still done this on my handy.
oh iam so silly

Push for Yahoo?

Is there a way that we can get push on yahoo mail?

This is what I have did on my N1
Incoming Setting:
username: [email protected]
password: your email password
IMAP server: imap.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 993
Security: SSL (Accept all certificate)
Outgoing Setting:
SMTP Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 465
Security: same as above
Require sign in: box ticked
Good luck..

Thanks for replying. So are you getting your yahoo mail push with these settings?

works like a charm! I always thought you needed a premium account but it works. THANK YOU!

zaidam said:
This is what I have did on my N1
Incoming Setting:
username: [email protected]
password: your email password
IMAP server: imap.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 993
Security: SSL (Accept all certificate)
Outgoing Setting:
SMTP Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Port: 465
Security: same as above
Require sign in: box ticked
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I didn't think this would work over WIFI without a mod, though it should work fine over 3G/edge/2g.

Yahoo doesn't provide push for mobile phones except I think Iphone.
If you're on the latests cyanogen the email.apk was modififed to allow yahoo to work over wifi.

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I didn't think this would work over WIFI without a mod, though it should work fine over 3G/edge/2g.
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JCopernicus said:
Yahoo doesn't provide push for mobile phones except I think Iphone.
If you're on the latests cyanogen the email.apk was modififed to allow yahoo to work over wifi.
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i use cm7 and it works even when i'm using wifi.

The date of the posts. Yahoo has changed their stance server side since then.

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The date of the posts. Yahoo has changed their stance server side since then.
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Does this mean that they now support push email using the stock email app? I almost completely switched gmail because of that...

bassmadrigal said:
Does this mean that they now support push email using the stock email app? I almost completely switched gmail because of that...
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They only support PUSH over their own apps, but yahoo didn't allow imap connections over wifi networks, only over 3g networks at one point.

JCopernicus said:
They only support PUSH over their own apps, but yahoo didn't allow imap connections over wifi networks, only over 3g networks at one point.
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Ok, that is what I thought. At this point, I really am disliking yahoo. I am contemplating dropping their premium service (which I have had for over 10 years). Their spam detection has gotten horrible, and their app really sucks (if you are a strong user of filters and folders like I am). I am much happier with gmail. Yahoo used to be a market leader for email, but now I find them just as bad as hotmail.

bassmadrigal said:
Ok, that is what I thought. At this point, I really am disliking yahoo. I am contemplating dropping their premium service (which I have had for over 10 years). Their spam detection has gotten horrible, and their app really sucks (if you are a strong user of filters and folders like I am). I am much happier with gmail. Yahoo used to be a market leader for email, but now I find them just as bad as hotmail.
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I agree, their new mail format really sucks! Half the time it will not load a page or a message for me. I get tired of refreshing every 2 pages I try to see. I also can't stand that you cannot change the notifications on the market app. Now that I see you can sync email through imap I just might go that route instead of the market app.

bassmadrigal said:
Ok, that is what I thought. At this point, I really am disliking yahoo. I am contemplating dropping their premium service (which I have had for over 10 years). Their spam detection has gotten horrible, and their app really sucks (if you are a strong user of filters and folders like I am). I am much happier with gmail. Yahoo used to be a market leader for email, but now I find them just as bad as hotmail.
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As someone who just moved from a yahoo small business account to a G Apps account.
Do it.

JCopernicus said:
As someone who just moved from a yahoo small business account to a G Apps account.
Do it.
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I already have switched to gmail as my primary account. My yahoo was just getting overrun with spam (and I was getting annoyed with their "upgrades"). Gmail just kept getting better and better, so I eventually sent out the email asking everyone to start using the new address. But I do have over 25 disposable email addresses setup through yahoo and I have filters from there that will email them to my gmail (which then gets sorted into labels), so that is why I am struggling with possibly dropping their premium service. It would just take forever to go to all those sites (since some addresses are used on multiple sites) and switch them to a gmail disposable address (and I don't like gmail's implementation as much as yahoo's).