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PUSH email w/o exchange ?

I'm using Outlook 2007 on my desktop with 3 POP email accounts, calendar, tasks, etc.
Is there a fairly simple way to sync and push email to my Tilt without having exchange server available ?
Thanks,
DLD

Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.

You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
Other options include using Live Mail - which supports push in WM6, or setting up a Mail2Web account. You could then create a rule in Outlook to forward any received mail to your new address. You might be able to configure Live Mail to pull from other Pop3 mailboxes (I know Gmail does this, but I don't know about Live Mail). That way all three Pop accounts end up in your Live Mail bucket, and you sync just that one account with your phone.
Any good?

TimSykes said:
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
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I could do that, but then I'd have to manually check for mail.
It would just be nice to have blackberry-like mail arrival.
DLD

you can tell the phone to check every 5 mins for emails? that's just as regular as blackberry. battery sapping tho. its in the advanced section of the messaging setup. you can do it on symbian nokias too.

dan13l said:
You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
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just installed it, and it appears to be working GREAT !
i wonder why this is free ?
DLD

Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail

WWI said:
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
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I like the concept of XpressMail (using SMS notification, therefore good for battery life), though I've had little luck getting push to work. It rarely, if ever, worked on my MPX220. I eventually accepted the fact that I'd simply have to do a send/receive when I was interested in seeing if there was new mail. Now that I have the Tilt, I'm having the same reliability issues. It HAS worked... I've had a couple messages show up all on their own, but for the most part, they don't. I've gone into the online configuration @ https://xpressmail.cingular.com/, and found that I had not only one, but two devices set up (my MPX220 set up twice). I deleted both of those, but for some reason can't seem to get the Tilt added. I can go through the process, but once I select it, it just never gets added to the list. The list of emails online is correct, so obviously the xpress mail app is properly getting the emails from my mail provider (comcast), but it's either not sending out the SMS messages, or they aren't being interpreted correctly by the phone.

I had a situation where i needed to syn with 2 exchange servers, and i didnt' want to run a desktop app.
Google for "seven beta" and get the OWA Out of office. You can set it up to sync only email and it works like push off of the OWA of exchange. If you don't have exchange they have a desktop version. Seven is the same people who develop the xpress mail for cingular.

yahoo mail

is there a good way to get your yahoo mail in the outlook. There stupid yahoo go software makes you use their app to view and send mail. The old version worked great. Anyone have any good suggestions? Thanks

jallenclark said:
is there a good way to get your yahoo mail in the outlook. There stupid yahoo go software makes you use their app to view and send mail. The old version worked great. Anyone have any good suggestions? Thanks
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Unless you pay Yahoo there is not a way I know.

philly fan said:
Unless you pay Yahoo there is not a way I know.
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I think your right but I hope your wrong. The old version 1.X of yahoo go worked great with your mail in outlook. does yahoo allow you to forward your mail? Looks like I am getting a hotmail account.

I searched for a way to do this too. Unfortunately the only free options are:
1. YGo - kinda sucks, push doesn't work, and i don't even get mail manually for 1-4 hours (i tested)
2. get a [email protected]o.co.uk and you get pop3 access, but you get an ad mail every day (or week, can't remember) - seems best solution, but requires that you change your mail adress, unless you already have a .co.uk adress
3. get a IM application which tells you that you have mail (i don't remember which one does, i think i had two that did that) but you don't even get the title of the mail, nevermind the message.
After getting tired, i coughed up the 20$ / year about 2 hours ago, and pop3 works like a charm

any way to sync the calendar from yahoo like you could in the old version as well? if you pay does it allow you to do this?

i don't know, but i don't think so. they say for 20$ you get POP3, forwarding (goood), 20M per message (instead of 10) and some filters... check the website

Maybe its different in some regions, but in UK, as long as you go into the yahoo mail web interface, click on options and select pop forwarding, you can then use either imap or pop/smpt to access your mail on wm devices.
I use my yahoo mail on my device fine.

i already said that yahoo.co.uk is different

dang, I am more interested in the calendar than the email, cause i can use the web interface if I need the mail but I like yahoo syncing with my calendar

i think you can "export"your calendar to outlook, from the web page, in options. try that

Hotmail and Outlook with WM6 ATT

Hello,
I recently upgraded by ATT Treo 750 to Windows Mobile 6 (WM6) and lost the ability to check my Hotmail with Outlook. I have seen a few threads with installing Live, etc but all i want to do is be able to use the Outlook App to check my Hotmail! Has anyone else figured out this one? When you try the setup via Outlook it basically just sends you to IE. Thanks!

hmm well the thing is with live installed it basically gives you push mail for your hotmail without paying for a premium account, i know hotmail used to charge for pop access and such but Im unsure if they still do. When it opens IE when trying to set it up it's most likely a page telling you to set it up in Live as far as I can remember. The only other thing I can think of other than getting live or an exchange account is to see if you can manually input your settings for your hotmail account, assuming that you have pop access to your account though.

ATT did it
Basically, WM6 has the same pocket MSN as WM5 with the Outlook HTTP sync for Hotmail. ATT stripped that function out of WM6...i have been talknig to MS to find out how to re-install it but they are not helping much.

Push email that actually works

Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....

This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.

Where do you get an exchange account?

CutePinkSox said:
Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....
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so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.

helpme said:
so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.
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Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!

gaz_az said:
This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.
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I could do but let me explain I have to email accounts:
1x Hotmail - which is push enabled anyway as per any hotmail account with a little tinkering
1x Googlemail which is my primary email address - I also use google calendar and contacts.
So Emansio is pushing Googlemail and OggSync is syncing Google Calender and contacts... this seems so far a flawless combo with hardly any overheads in terms of memory and CPU.
I am not that familiar with exchange - will exchange cater to all my needs?

I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.

marisa4755 said:
I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.
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How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??

Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.

Go to windows live on your pc and sign in to your live (hotmail) account, then on the top right hand side there is 'options', at the bottom of that list there is 'more options', under the heading Manage your account, one of the options is 'forward to another email account'

Sergio PC said:
Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.
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1. It depends, some exchange hosts charge a monthly charge, some like mail2web have both free and charged services. However, you obviously have to pay for the data, just like any other kind of data service. If you are on an unlimited data tariff, this won't worry you.
2. No idea how it works (I don't know how my car works either, just as long as it goes when I turn the key I don't care)!

Hotmail Push email
darthbane2k said:
How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??
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Basically sign into windows live on your Diamond then goto options choose "sync schedule" then set it to "as items arrive" and volia free push hotmail...

The advantage of doing this will mail2web is that you can get all your mail pushed to you from all your accounts. Saves fiddling about with lots of mail boxes on the device. But I'm sure some people would prefer to keep them separate.

Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.

v64 said:
Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.
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Same concern!

Call me dumb, but I use yahoo mail and every time I get a new email it pops up on my email tab, I've set it to check every hour, you can set it for less if you get more emails than me(5 x pink diet patch and 20 x penis extension, both not required). I have a nice unlimited data plan but why would anyone who has a diamond not? If you have a diamond in my opinion you must have an unlimited data plan, otherwise you are just not getting the full benefits of such a beautiful device and should roll back to the awesome old magician.

Yes it can drain battery...
You shoudn't have push email just for the sake of having it...
...yes Emansio always maintains a constant data connection as does push Hotmail... and naturally this will shorten the battery life somewhat in addition to that if you don't have an unlimited data plan then your fooked... but if your out and about and regularly use email for business or personal then push email is for you.
I stop it when I am out shopping etc as there is no need for it but if I need to be contacted easily via email then I activate Emansio.
For those who wan't to find out how it works... cmon guys you have the net and presumably a Diamond with Opera LOL - www.google.com need I say more.
OggSync is great for Google Calendar BTW

This is also new out in beta for those wanting to sync google mail and calendar. Don't know anything about it but might help someone.
http://www.nuevasync.com/

Hi,
Nuevasync looks interesting: Unfortunately it's not supporting email yet.
Emansio: Agree, it's the only push plugin which works fine (e.g. in sleep mode etc). BUT: It's expensive and it ssupports the main email folder only. The meaning of Imap is having the folder structure on the server, so I expect such a tool to inform about every new email in every folder I subscribed to.
According to Emansio support this feature is currently worked on and might be available later in 2008.
Cheers,
Kingshill

CutePinkSox said:
Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!
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correct me if I am wrong but Emansio only support push mail but not calanda and contact, right?

Get Your Live (Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc.) Email Without Using Live

Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
POP server: pop3.live.com (Port 995)
POP SSL required? Yes
User name: Your Windows Live ID, for example [email protected]
Password: The password you usually use to sign in to Hotmail or Windows Live
SMTP server: smtp.live.com (Port 25)
Authentication required? Yes (this matches your POP username and password)
TLS/SSL required? Yes
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Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users

This is great! Thanks for posting this, now I can free up a few megabytes on my device. I have always hated that I couldn't check my email on older devices that didn't support the live application, like my Mobilepro 900C. I was never a fan of the live app anyway, as I could never choose what happened to my mail on the servers if I deleted it on my device. Thanks,
Dave

How to get *all* sent emails to show up
Thanks for the heads-up regarding this. I'd heard Hotmail were going to offer a more standard form of POP/SMTP access one of these days. I've configured my Kaiser accordingly and it shows all my received emails fine and emails I've sent from my Kaiser fine but emails I've sent from my desktop PC do not show up in sent emails on the Kaiser. Is this what others are getting as well? How do I get all of my sent emails to show up as well?

Yea, only emails sent from the device will show up.
Glad to see other people find this useful as well.
You're welcome.

thank you so much
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.

josefcrist said:
thank you so much i have wanted to have both of my hotmail accounts on my device for ages.
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No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.

-haze- said:
No problem. I'm really glad to have my hotmail back also.
For some reason, I can't get this working in Thunderbird on my laptop though or even on Outlook.
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hmm well good luck with that.

Synchronizing folders
I'm can setup my MSN e-mail accounts using the method mentioned earlier.
However, none of the my personal MSN e-mail folders show up for me.
They do if I set up the MSN e-mail using HTTP protocol (and use Adrian HTTPMail Provider) instead of POP3 protocol.
Does anyone know how to get the personal e-mail folders to show up and synchronize using POP3?

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Microsoft FINALLY opened up the POP3 ports for Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc. accounts. That means that we can get our email on our devices again without installing that stupid Live program.
This is especially great for me because the newer version of the Live Mobile program was crashing my Manila and freezing my email tab so I had to uninstall it.
I just set up my hotmail account and it worked immediately.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Create a new mail account
2. Don't put the real domain. For example, for hotmail, I put "hormail" because the device will automatically tell you to go to live.com to set it up. You can change your email address after you put in the server settings.
Here are the settings:
Do all of this and click "Finish" then go back in and change your email server back to what it should be.
Click Send/Receive and you will get your mail.
Thanks to Lifehacker.com for the news.
http://lifehacker.com/5151551/hotmail-enables-pop3-for-us-users
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Man good looking for this -haze-. I read so many post here & there but yours did it for me!! Yea Yea..

best info ever
Thanks for posting this information. I have been searching for just this trick for quite a while and works like a charm A+

info is good but..
i cant still done this on my handy.
oh iam so silly