Question about Cingular data plans + wifi - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

so i understand and realize that GPRS/EDGE needs a data plan, however im basically only wanting to use my personal/corporate Access Points over WIFI to xfer xchange , remote into servers, etc.. and im wondering can cingular charge me for using my own personal APs to xfer data to and fro using teh cingular 8125? I've contacted support, business support, our sales rep etc.. and for whatever reasont his seems to be very confusing to people.....any more info would be appreciated, im trying to decide if i need (have to get) a data plan.

If you will not use GPRS then you do not need a Data Plan.

thanks for answering, i actually chose the wrong window and put this in the wrong forum as obviouslyk this isnt related to customizing the phone. thanks for answering however my apologies for posting in the wrong forum

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Kaiser Owners on ATT

trying to do some research here.
Can I please get those of you to post here if:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
B: You are on ATT in the US
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Thanks
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Media net $20/month
Buzz313th said:
trying to do some research here.
Can I please get those of you to post here if:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Plan
Thanks
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(In Line ... see above)
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
sqadan said:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
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Same as above
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
MediaNet - $19.99 - plan
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes(but not everything will work using this so i use wap.cingular
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA connect unlimited
A: You have a HTC Kaiser - YES
B: You are on ATT in the US - YUP
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular - NO, I USE WAP.CINGULAR
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan. - I am actually on the 20 dollar media net plan PREPAID haha
And on WAP.CINGULAR I do not use a proxy and get full net access plus 3g. I went prepaid because I had heard ATT/Cingular had overbilled people that used alot of data on their phones while having a media net plan because they figured a "media net phone" couldnt use gigs of data. So people had gotten like 500 dollar bills and I wanted to avoid that so I went the prepaid route.
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
I use WAP
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Blackberry Connect
I am actually using my Kaiser on the iPhone data plan. I originally got an iPhone and used it for a few months until I got frustrated that it didn't support exchange. I put the SIM into my new TyTN II and it works great with no changes to my original iPhone plan. The phone says it is using MediaNET for the connection. Unfortunately we only have edge speed out here in Denver.
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes(but not everything will work using this so i use wap.cingular)
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Unlimited Media Net $19.99
I did the same. The only thing is I ran into a few problems with voicemail and MMS so I called and had my plan switched back to mediamax 200 and everything works great.
w4rmk said:
I am actually using my Kaiser on the iPhone data plan. I originally got an iPhone and used it for a few months until I got frustrated that it didn't support exchange. I put the SIM into my new TyTN II and it works great with no changes to my original iPhone plan. The phone says it is using MediaNET for the connection. Unfortunately we only have edge speed out here in Denver.
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Thanks... now if those of you who responded could do me another favor.
Please use this link to do a speed test on your device, http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
If you can, please use 3g and both of the wap.cingular conections, one with the proxy and one without and report your download speeds...
I used to get 550kbs-800kbs in Los Angeles, on ATT's 3g, PDA Unlimited Plan, but now I am getting 250-400. All this started after I gave them my IMEI number and the idiots in Customer Care told me that my phone is unrecognized and that It is not 3g capable... well, 5 hours later, I now have the direct number to ANS and they have created a ticket for me and are actually trying to help...
I am asking you all to give me the speeds, so that I may be able to find out if it is my account only, or if ATT has been corking the 3g conection here in LA..
Thanks
JB
I doubt you'll get much good data, since your throughput can be affected by so many environmental variables. Like the type of browser you're using. PIE report 167Kbps for me (I'm just outside Long Beach, CA), Opera reports between 800Kbps to 1.1Mbps.
But I have an unlocked TyTN II on AT&T and using the default config that the SIM sets up, those are the speeds I'm getting.
PerfAlbion said:
I doubt you'll get much good data, since your throughput can be affected by so many environmental variables. Like the type of browser you're using. PIE report 167Kbps for me (I'm just outside Long Beach, CA), Opera reports between 800Kbps to 1.1Mbps.
But I have an unlocked TyTN II on AT&T and using the default config that the SIM sets up, those are the speeds I'm getting.
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Thanks for the reply...
When I use PIE and opera I get the same speeds... Environment and other variables affect me less then the fact that ATT's network speeds when put on a graph look like spike city... It almost looks like the connection can run faster but is corked after 300kbits are sent...
Please continue checking...
JB
in PIE I got 385k, with Opera-Mini I got 1,542kbit/sec 0.44s latency. That was with the max 1MB file size. In Corona Del Mar
iPhone plan using wap.cingular, getting 1510 kb/sec with .32s latency, 5.744 d/l time, max 1mb file, San Diego on Opera.
Same other variables but switched to isp.cingular, getting 2013kb/sec, .343s latency, 5.398s d/l time.
I couldn't test PIE because apparently java needs to be installed. Go figure, since Opera's running fine.
Yes to all.
I have PDA Connect unlimited.
I'm getting 1520kb/s using opera.
FYI: I've seen 2.2 using 2wire.com not sure if it's reliable though
Buzz313th said:
Thanks... now if those of you who responded could do me another favor.
Please use this link to do a speed test on your device, http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
If you can, please use 3g and both of the wap.cingular conections, one with the proxy and one without and report your download speeds...
I used to get 550kbs-800kbs in Los Angeles, on ATT's 3g, PDA Unlimited Plan, but now I am getting 250-400. All this started after I gave them my IMEI number and the idiots in Customer Care told me that my phone is unrecognized and that It is not 3g capable... well, 5 hours later, I now have the direct number to ANS and they have created a ticket for me and are actually trying to help...
I am asking you all to give me the speeds, so that I may be able to find out if it is my account only, or if ATT has been corking the 3g conection here in LA..
Thanks
JB
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When you gave at&t your IMEI#, the Kasier comes up as unknown in the at&t provisioning system. By default it is set to GSM device and not UMTS. This has been discussed in the at&t/Cingular forum.
BillMNJ wrote:
I spent almost an hour on with AT&T's data support and the guy said the reason was the failure of my devices IMEI# to register the devices hardware. There seems to be no hardware profile for the TyTnII ansd therefore it comes up as an "unknown device" in their provisioning system. I confirmed this on my visit to the store this afternoon as the rep there showed me the screen and sure enough, it comes up as unknown, and the setting for this selection is GSM, not UMTS which all of their 3G phones are set to. He said, your device "does not exist" in a valid profile as a UMTS device and therefore will never be able to see a 3G signal even if I was sitting under a 3G tower... He showed me his phone which is 3G capable and id did indeed have UMTS and a valid hardware profile.

Data Plan questions...

So, AT&T kills you on a monthly data plan, unlimited for $40 a month are there any alternatives for getting a monthly data plan or do I specifically need to go through AT$T for that service?
Also, I use the "No Data" feature which is awesome by the way to essentially turn off the data to and from my phone, I use WIFI. Someone sent me a text message the other day that I did not receive I assume because I have the data turned off on my phone, as planned.
Is there a way to get around this, t receive messages when connected via WIFI or is that specific to the data plan associated with AT$T?
TW,
u do not need to turn off your connection when using wifi. when you have wifi turned on and properly connected, all data usage will be through wifi so no charges. your phone calls and txt will still come through normally. you can call/email att to confirm, i did. plus you can also check your usage online and it will show no charges for anytime you are using the internet through wifi.
all data usage will be through wifi so no charges
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I can get sms through my web connection? I thought SMS came directly from my provider?
Is there a way to use another provider for data service?
TW,
I use Unlimited MediaNet for only $19.95.
That would be the best choice if you want to have data wherever you go for less then the DataConnect plan.
Well if you're without an access point that is.
I've been using it for a while now, and I use quite a bit of bandwidth a month, (IMplus / Tethering pretty much all the time) and it works great.
Slayer6234 said:
I use Unlimited MediaNet for only $19.95.
That would be the best choice if you want to have data wherever you go for less then the DataConnect plan.
Well if you're without an access point that is.
I've been using it for a while now, and I use quite a bit of bandwidth a month, (IMplus / Tethering pretty much all the time) and it works great.
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I've heard this before, I pay $39.99 for MediaNet unlimilted...so how do you get it so cheaply? The tethering can be done with ease but getting caught could encurr the wrath of ATT $$$$$ !
I'm sorry about that.
I'm using MediaMax unlimited.
Its unlimited Data /w only 200 texts a month.
I shoulda mentioned that. =/
Slayer6234,
I know I have the option of downgrading to MediaMax Unlimited online (account access) but I've contacted AT&T and they told me this is not supported so I'm a little leary to change it and have it cost me in the end. How long have you been using this? If it works fine I'll just downgrade and see what happens.
Thanks.
I've been using it for about 2 years now since I got a flip phone with a browser.
I've talked to AT&T about it and they do "frown" upon not using a dataconnect plan with a PDA but I've been using it with the HTC for 3 months and nothing has happened, plus I would just say that I have a flip phone that I can only use medianet on, and that I switch my sim to that from time to time.
The tilt will automatically connect/work with MediaNet.
The PDAconnect / Dataconnect plans will still get you on edge/3g, its just a fancy, more costly way of getting you there.
MediaNet will do the same... and you dont need a tethering plan with the tilt because, well, you have a tilt.
Slayer6234,
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a whirl.
I think I might no longer be confused ... MediaMax is still a service offered through AT&T (https://www.wireless.att.com/media/cingular_video_purchase) at a reduced rate...
So, you can't get an external data plan from another vendor for your phone although @ $20 bones I think that falls in line with everyone else's plans.
TW,

For thos in Canada using a Kaiser on Rogers...

What type of plan do you have? And which options do I look for in order to maximize the capabilities of the Kaiser on Rogers' network?
I have the 3 yr vid calling plan (free for 3 years on contract) not sure if they have that now. Its weird to be saying this but overall, u should check out the rogers section at howardforums. Aside from that I am using a basic data plan that still works (10 megs for $5) but it can be tricky to get, especially now that rogers has Windows mobile data plans.
Good luck!
Thanks for the reply. A couple more questions. What is the difference between a data plan and the Unlimited On-Device Mobile Browsing Plan for $7 that is offered? This is my first time owning a phone that will be able to access the internet so I'm not sure what I need.
This is basically what I want to use in addition to the plan I have now (which is 250 anytime minutes, and the $11 Communicate value pack). I want to be able to use the GPS, 3G network, be able to read and send emails, browse the internet occasionally (youtube, etc.) and use Windows Live Messenger.
everything will basically need data except what u use for gps will determine if you need data or not
mikeveli20 said:
Thanks for the reply. A couple more questions. What is the difference between a data plan and the Unlimited On-Device Mobile Browsing Plan for $7 that is offered? This is my first time owning a phone that will be able to access the internet so I'm not sure what I need.
This is basically what I want to use in addition to the plan I have now (which is 250 anytime minutes, and the $11 Communicate value pack). I want to be able to use the GPS, 3G network, be able to read and send emails, browse the internet occasionally (youtube, etc.) and use Windows Live Messenger.
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Don't go with the unlimited mobile browsing plan as it's not applicable with non rogers devices =/ (the csr's might not tell you that either) you'll still incur data charges. (check howard forums to confirm)
Your best bet is to wait for the tiered data plan that's coming out in a few weeks.
meeek said:
Don't go with the unlimited mobile browsing plan as it's not applicable with non rogers devices =/ (the csr's might not tell you that either) you'll still incur data charges. (check howard forums to confirm)
Your best bet is to wait for the tiered data plan that's coming out in a few weeks.
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I'll be carefull with that as well. I have the same plan but on Fido and for the past 2 months, i havent been charged any extra (although i accumulated about 32 mb avg for both months).
Im still watching my data consumption... so hopefully nothing will change in the future.

Total noob, desperate to figure out internet

Thanks in advance to any answers about this.
I purchased an unlocked Tilt so that I could use it under T-Mobile. Under T-Mobile I have unlimited internet and text messaging along with my phone plan. I can still talk as long as I need to and text, but cannot use the internet at all. What could be the problem and is there a solution?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397434
Tried changing settings, but didn't work. Is a walk through too much to ask for someone with a T-Mobile Data Plan?
I had to call T-Mobile so they can tell me how to set it up. It was like a 5 minute process, just needed to make a new connection.
Do a google search. Type in the search box. T-Mobile settings Kaiser you should find what you are looking for.

G1

Hi I just got a g1 and was wondering is there a way u can have picture message without having to buy the Internet plan? Or are all andriod power phones required to have Internet plans to have picture message or mms. That would suck cause it would be like owning a Chinese cell phone. Can anyone please help me thanks.
i think it depends on the provider, tmobile has SMS/MMS service and then they have there data plan, i could be wrong about this
You just need to find out your carriers MMS settings and enter them in the phone. MMS do not use one's internet plan, they use the MMS settings and data services, then you either get charged per MMS or if you have an MMS plan, based off that.
A data plan, and the data that comes with that data plan, is totally different from MMS.
How do u get. To the mms plan?
Is there a way u can just download it put it on ur phone and then set ur country to united states or wherever ur from.Cause on my htc wing I had to download a network wizard onto my phone and just fixed my settings and after that it worked. I could reciebe and sent text with my htc wing.
I was wondering can I do that same with the g1. Thanks
if U got Tmobile : What ever textPlan U got ,u Get Mms Dont Need No Data Plan. IN THE US i dont no in other Countrys =D
g1
no thats not true at all. u need internet plan in order for the G1 to have mms. i'm in the US. is there a setting that i have to fix?
htc_wing23 said:
no thats not true at all. u need internet plan in order for the G1 to have mms. i'm in the US. is there a setting that i have to fix?
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YOU DO NOT NEED A DATA PLAN TO MMS!!!!! MMS does not use your data plan settings or data! All you need to do is enter the proper MMS settings into your APN list, and then when you go to send a MMS, your G1 will automatically test each APN you have until it finds the right one, or none of them work.
Where is my apn list located?
Slightly off topic
but phone plans on the other side of the pond are ridiculous. my contract is for 600 minutes anywhere in europe per month, unlimited texts, unlimited data (and none of that being charged for receiving a call nonsense) with a free htc magic for £30 per month on an 18 month contract. you guys really do get shafted
g1
that still doesnt answer my question.
t-mobile's unlimited texting includes mms, it's on the site. as picture messaging.
ive never had just a messaging plan, but they do have sms/mms settings, and it doesnt use data for mms. in transfering my samsung blackjack 2 from att to tmo, i had first got the sms/mms settings working, then data. tmobile is very helpful in porting over unlocked phones from other carriers. very. but att and tmobile 3g is differant so that part wont work
g1
so i'm screwed?
htc_wing23 said:
so i'm screwed?
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no...your phone will work on tmobile...they won't require data plan for mms.
g1
my phone does work. everything works but my mms. t mobile wants people to buy internet plan in order for the phone to work properly, so they made the phone not work with mms unless u purchase the internet plan with the phone. I dont have the internet plan with the phone. So my mms doesnt work. So i was wondering if there is a way to make my mms work. Since this site has hackers to do these things i just thought it would be possible to do this.
not sure but google tmobile samsung blackjack 2 sms/mms settings, then maybe find where to input the mms settings. if i remember right everything on the phone worked except mms and internet on the bj2 before i called tmobile and got it worked out. i specifically remember setting up mms FIRST, testing to make sure that worked, then set up the data.
htc_wing23 said:
my phone does work. everything works but my mms. t mobile wants people to buy internet plan in order for the phone to work properly, so they made the phone not work with mms unless u purchase the internet plan with the phone. I dont have the internet plan with the phone. So my mms doesnt work. So i was wondering if there is a way to make my mms work. Since this site has hackers to do these things i just thought it would be possible to do this.
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If you actually read what many of have been posting, you would see that YOU DO NOT NEED A DATA PLAN TO MMS!! All you need to do is enter the correct settings... seeing that you managed to find this site somehow, I would assume you are proficient in the use of the interwebs... maybe try googling "t mobile MMS settings G1"...
But do not rant and rave anymore about T-Mobile trying to shaft you into a data plan, when that is not true at all, and as many of us have pointed out multiple times already, all it takes is for you to enter the MMS settings into your phone.
htc_wing23 said:
my phone does work. everything works but my mms. t mobile wants people to buy internet plan in order for the phone to work properly, so they made the phone not work with mms unless u purchase the internet plan with the phone. I dont have the internet plan with the phone. So my mms doesnt work. So i was wondering if there is a way to make my mms work. Since this site has hackers to do these things i just thought it would be possible to do this.
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Only two pages and your already doing my head in, now open your ears, engage your brain and you might learn something!
1) get off your lazy arse.
2) read the manual for the phone.
3) find your apn settings menu (and don't ask me where, that's why god created manuals!)
4) this has fook all to do with 'hacking'
5) goto your service providers web page and find their mms settings.
6) enter those settings.
7) YOU DO NOT NEED A DATA PLAN ON T^MOBILE!
8) say 'DoH' and come back here
9) look sheepish and say sorry to all the nice people!
Hear endeth your lesson
i'm bak!
I'm bak but not to apologize. I went on tmobile website and cant find any MMS settings. Can anyone help me? please.
htc_wing23 said:
I'm bak but not to apologize. I went on tmobile website and cant find any MMS settings. Can anyone help me? please.
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We can't help you anymore than we have... we have given you advice on multiple options to find out what your MMS settings are, not to mention simple common sense. If you truly can't get it with the hand fed info we have given you, try going into a T-Mo store and having them enter the settings for you (the most common sense option of all, by the way).

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