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Hi all and thanks for viewing this post before you start asking questions that have been answered several times before.
For Sim(Un)Lock tool GO
Many questions can be found on the WIKI.
WIKI main page.
WIKI page for the Blue Angel
The WIKI is a website connected to this forum, and all information on the WIKI is posted by users of this Forum.
SO CHECK OUT THE WIKI, and read it.
GENERAL FAQ GO
Index of WIKI
How to upgrade to the latest rom GO
Bluetooth upgrades GO
CAB files GO
Extended Rom GO
Radio ROM GO
Upgrading the Blue Angel GO
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Nice post, Bosjo....great idea....now let's hope people read this, so I can stop referring to the links in my signature...!
bosjo, add the new 1.40 Tutorial I added to wiki, it makes the seperate Bluetooth and Radio ones obsolete (largely) as 1.40 include 1.12.00 and 1.0.0.3900
The noob finally did it
I want to thank Brazillian Joefor helping me out with my ineptness to READ THE WHOLE WIKI first- I finally upgraded to WM2k5 flawlessly after nearly 6 hours and despite sctatching a bald spot into my head everything is great.
I also want to thank Helmi and everyone else that made this all possible this site is a real asset keep up the great work.
Siemens Sx66 Model ph20b1
Used the unlock on 12/07/2006 on referenced Cingular phone purchased somewhere around April 2005. Worked like a charm, phone now works great on T-Mobile.
I failed to download MaUpgradeUt_noID file from the ftp site for resolving the country code error problem. For tha I am requesting you please upload the file in rapidshare.com (or arrange to upload).
It will be a great help for me.
Thanks
I installed WM6 with a simple PIN last night. This morning I switched SIMs and when switching on I entered the normal PIN and it says "incorrect password".
I haven't changing the PIN and it worked last night. Of course now it goes into longer and longer gaps before you can do anything! and now i must wait for 34minutes before i can try my "lucky" PIN..
No problem I thought, I'll just do a hard reset... but BIG problem. It appears that WM6 won't let you do a hard reset from the unlock screen.
Does anyone know if they have changed the hard reset procedure in WM6?
From the device being powered on I am pressing an holding the power button, pressing the reset and then letting both go simultaneously - is this correct?
It is nice to know if someone steals your 'phone that they can't use it - not at all good when a bug in WM6 makes it happen to the owner!
I have a completely useless brick at the moment...
need your help guys..
Links for wiki don't work, any idea where to get these info from?
in the top bar there is also a link to the wiki, or take this one: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
EDIT: sorry, apparently i misunderstood, the wiki is apparently experiencing problems and is currently down.
turning off alone.
I upgraded my BA to d-two's WM6.5.5 Build 23529, and now when the battery is on 30%, he turn of or reset and keep doing aftera a while when i turn on again. Chief tony, you know this error?
you should always make sure that your battery is completely full when upgrading. there's been people before, reporting that their battery meter is screwed up after upgrading. so, i guess the 30% are just not an accurate value and the battery is in fact empty. you should load up the battery up to 100% and re-flash the rom. the values will be more accurate
then.
another reason could be that your battery is really starting to go bad and maybe should be replaced.
Hi Chief
Hey chief tony, i reflashed my BA with full charge, and instaled the Wm 6.1 manilla 2d final from D-two, and i've got what realy happens, everytime i used the wifi conection, is doesnt take long and Ba turn of, and when i turn on where it must have the radio version, it appears 'none', so i soft reset and gets ok. you know whats happening?
ps: sorry for the bad english
the fact, that it turns off quickly again, points to the battery having lost most of its capacity. maybe you should have a look at ebay for a replacement.
it shows R NONE G NONE, because unplanned switch-offs or soft resets, that are not triggered by the reset pin cause the phone to boot without radio, some roms start without the radio then, some don't boot at all. it happens with all custom roms and soft resetting is the only way to avoid it.
Chef_Tony said:
the fact, that it turns off quickly again, points to the battery having lost most of its capacity. maybe you should have a look at ebay for a replacement.
it shows R NONE G NONE, because unplanned switch-offs or soft resets, that are not triggered by the reset pin cause the phone to boot without radio, some roms start without the radio then, some don't boot at all. it happens with all custom roms and soft resetting is the only way to avoid it.
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I wouldn't blame the battery so fast on this one (although entirely possible). There are a few roms (not sure about d-two's 6.1 since I have not tried it) that will become unresponsive once you activate Wifi (not sure why), and eventually resets the device... He could try a different rom and see if that helps.
Hi,
I am trying to get the "For Sim(Un)Lock tool GO" but when I click on GO it returns "No input file specified."
Any other links that I can get this tool to unlock my Blue Angel...
Jay
this tutorial is quite outdated, the one linked in my signature is new and all links are working there. in the 2nd post, you will find the tool needed for the sim unlock and many more
Re-detecting my 1gb sd card!
Hi, Chef.
I initially had some issues with my 1gb sd card after upgrading to m 6.1 & then 6.5.3. But, after a vista laptop detected an removed a virus (autorun file), I was able to access again.
Now, after upgrading using sun dream's latest rom (6.5.5), my sd-card issue has re-appeared. I have just formatted the card (tried either fat or fat32) and still no progress.
Other Issues: Activisync's complaint about my having to increase the size of my mailbox & delete one or two other files is becoming too frequent.
my ba now trips up (or shuts down completely) when d battery is around 50%.
What next?
MDi
Idiake MD said:
Hi, Chef.
I initially had some issues with my 1gb sd card after upgrading to m 6.1 & then 6.5.3. But, after a vista laptop detected an removed a virus (autorun file), I was able to access again.
Now, after upgrading using sun dream's latest rom (6.5.5), my sd-card issue has re-appeared. I have just formatted the card (tried either fat or fat32) and still no progress.
Other Issues: Activisync's complaint about my having to increase the size of my mailbox & delete one or two other files is becoming too frequent.
my ba now trips up (or shuts down completely) when d battery is around 50%.
What next?
MDi
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What Rom do you have?
ROM: sun_dream's WM6.5.5 Build 23569 CHS WWE
Radio: 1.15
Hi everybody and sorry for disturbing you guys.
I've got a very strange problem with my friend's O2 XDA IIs (BA Device). The unit was upgraded to WM 5.0, however, I could not HR it. When I Reset the device and press Camera and Record button simultaneously (to make three lines appear), it is possible for me to move up and down and change the options but I can't finish the HR process by pressing the Messaging Button (it does work normally, not a physical prob). Besides, when I tried to upgrade the unit to another ROM (my friend was fed up with the current ROM since it was too slow), the unit couldn't recognize an USB Connection when it was in Bootloader mode (it could sync normally with my PC, already tested this). The screen kept showing Serial at the top and v2.06 at the bottom. As the result, no ROM upgrade Utility could do its job.
I've been using Pocket PC Phones for 2 yrs and this is the 1st time I've seen this problem, even though I used to use a MDA III for half a year.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Tks and rgds.
Same here - device no longer recognized as USB in bootloader mode Previous ROM? helmi_c 2.3
In one of helmi's posts, he mentions something called "clearstorage". This might be what you are looking for. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=356258#356258
After some playing around I have noticed that my BA hangs in BL mode, sometimes before I put it on the cradle, sometimes after I do that :/
try mtty software
it might be helpful in your case
search the forums for it and for available commands
I seem to be having some biig issues with my tilt and was hoping for someone to shed some light on the situation for me, I have a tilt, now running on hyperdragon IIIr , hard spl 3.56 and a emonster radio, ever seince I've unlocked it and flashed the a rom I've ran into oone of two issues 1. rom works fine with exception to heavyish lag on typing that forces me to type slow (E.G. duttys 19716 hybrid) and I do a lot of typin so the lags is a big issue 2. running currrrently beforemention hyperdragon IIIr and emonster radio, (although I've had the issue on other radios) and it runs fine at first, I tap the power button don't use it for 20 mins or so then when it turns back on it either steps in from dark to bright and will be VERY unnresponsive like having to tap the windows button 20x times before I get one tap I've been flashing like a madman tyig tofind a rom that generaly works... PLEASE HELP
Learn to use search. I, as well as many other people, have the lag issue. It's been mentioned before.
The other issue could be either your device, ROM, or radio. Change to an official radio. If you still have the same problem, try going back to the stock ROM. If the problem continues to exist, it could be your device.
If it turns out to be the radio, simply change radios.
If it's the ROM, address it in the ROM's thread, not in a new one in a different forum.
If it's your device, you had better learn how to get it back to it's OEM state, provided you have a warranty.
Also, spacing, punctuation, and spelling tend to be helpful when seeking help. I'm not saying it has to be perfect, but it's nice for it to be understandable without having to analyze it twice.
Now, run along and play.
mr4r4n said:
I seem to be having some biig issues with my tilt and was hoping for someone to shed some light on the situation for me, I have a tilt, now running on hyperdragon IIIr , hard spl 3.56 and a emonster radio, ever seince I've unlocked it and flashed the a rom I've ran into oone of two issues 1. rom works fine with exception to heavyish lag on typing that forces me to type slow (E.G. duttys 19716 hybrid) and I do a lot of typin so the lags is a big issue 2. running currrrently beforemention hyperdragon IIIr and emonster radio, (although I've had the issue on other radios) and it runs fine at first, I tap the power button don't use it for 20 mins or so then when it turns back on it either steps in from dark to bright and will be VERY unnresponsive like having to tap the windows button 20x times before I get one tap I've been flashing like a madman tyig tofind a rom that generaly works... PLEASE HELP
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It almost sounds like you installed an application that is causing your device to freeze up. Also, remember to hard reset after flashing. If you can please list the applications and sips you have installed and maybe someone can point out the culprit.
trust me spelling is never normally an issue but im typng from the device, unfortunatly I don't have a home computer at the moment. I've used search, I just haven't come across anything that matched my situation, the best working rom so far was duttys apr 29 hybrid. I've done some different radios and if anyone would be able to id love to read whatever setups you guys have on your devices thatwork and whatever issues you guys may be having btw my hard spl is 3.56 as well. I mean alll I wanted was 6.1 style messaging a good strong antenna (emonster is working well) if the roms fome with extras cool, if not its all good, I just need the device to work, thanks for all you help people
and btw the issue with the major slowdown is after flash (and hard reset) when I first tap the power button to put it on my belt for later no apps installed
This will be tedious, but try going back to AT&T Stock and see if you're still having an issue with the slowdown. Also, you might want to try looking for the Tilt Keyboard fix and trying that first. I still have lag with it, but it's worth a shot before you go back to stock.
If you still have issues with the stock ROM (try the stock SPL too if you can, there's instructions for going back to OEM you can click here to see those)
If you have the issue with everything set to stock, it's your device itself. If the problem goes away after reverting to stock, then try re-doing the whole SPL and flashing process for the ROM of your choice. At that point, you may wish to consider addressing your issue in that ROM's thread.
you are a genius, i ran it from the beginning and started it from scratch, i started with a light rom the new Hyperdraggon IIIr emonster rom and then hard spl'd at 3.29 (after i did the whole re stock and unlock process) im guessing i might not have done it right from the start and or the 3.56 spl might have been the problem also but its acting sufficiently well now i will keep you guys posted thanks for the support
I have 3.56 and have no problems. I almost always use a light rom and throw EVERYTHING onto my storage card. You also might trying running Pocket Mechanic
Okay, I've searched and can't find this problem but hopefully somebody may have some ideas.
Quite frequently, I lose the top line of my display (the one with the start button and the system status icons). Everything else works but that line just disappears.
If I then lock the device it comes back. When I unlock it, it sometimes stays but sometimes disappears again once it's unlocked and I then have to turn my phone off and back on again.
I have a standard Orange UK phone, standard ROM and I've used some of the performance tweaks listed here. I've also disabled Touchflo and am using spb diary as my home page.
Anybody any ideas because this is driving me mad?
I had the same, but only when TF3D was deactivated. Since I use it again, it doesn't happen anymore...
It happens on my Orange diamond as well - stock 1.37 rom with TF3D enabled.
It seems to happen once every 4-5 days, and doesn't really have a pattern. Sometimes it's switching between Today and Second Today, sometimes it's rotating, sometimes it's unlocking etc..
flash a new ROM
Hello there.
Well i just recommend you to flash a new cooked ROM. I havent seen this behavior with a cooked ROM.
Best regards.
Well, at least it isn't just me but does anybody have any idea what causes the problem and how it can be solved.
Could it be something to do with glyph memory?
I used to see this sometimes on the orange rom. Since flashing a cooked rom makes the device twice as fast - and removes that problem - I would just flash it.
unwired4 said:
I used to see this sometimes on the orange rom. Since flashing a cooked rom makes the device twice as fast - and removes that problem - I would just flash it.
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I know it's the wrong forum to say this but I'm just a bit scared to flash it because I've never done it before.
I'm worried about either a) bricking it or b) losing some setting that Orange put in to connect to their network (voice, data, voice mail etc).
Hi
I've had a similar Problem!
It seems to happen when I take the phone out of sleep cos I've got a text and its locked (I've set it for 30min).
I press the power button but the screen only half lights and the top line doesn't display. It sometimes says 'password' in the top left but does nothing if I press it.
I can slide along the bottom line but it doesn't work properly.
Interestingly I also have a Orange Diamond 1.37 ROM (which I've unlocked).
I'm gonna flash with HTC's ROM from there site and I'll let everyone know if the problem persists.
Wish me luck
TheFlash007 said:
Hi
I've had a similar Problem!
It seems to happen when I take the phone out of sleep cos I've got a text and its locked (I've set it for 30min).
I press the power button but the screen only half lights and the top line doesn't display. It sometimes says 'password' in the top left but does nothing if I press it.
I can slide along the bottom line but it doesn't work properly.
Interestingly I also have a Orange Diamond 1.37 ROM (which I've unlocked).
I'm gonna flash with HTC's ROM from there site and I'll let everyone know if the problem persists.
Wish me luck
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And what happened?
Hi
Sorry for the delay. I tried the HTC site ROM but it just gave me a message saying 'Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device'.
So it looks like i'm stuck cos its still doing it about once a day just have to switch of and on again.
TheFlash007 said:
Hi
Sorry for the delay. I tried the HTC site ROM but it just gave me a message saying 'Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device'.
So it looks like i'm stuck cos its still doing it about once a day just have to switch of and on again.
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Okay. I still have the problem and am very, very tempted to try flashing a new ROM (and Radio). But I just can't quite work up the courage to do it since I've never done it before and it's the fear of the unknown.
dastewart said:
Well, at least it isn't just me but does anybody have any idea what causes the problem and how it can be solved.
Could it be something to do with glyph memory?
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This happens to me too. I have a T-Mobile Compact IV.
I've found that using FreeUP RAM (part of SKTools) not only releases memory, but also fixes this problem (until the next time it happens, which admittedly is not often).
Just wanted to say that I've upgraded my Orange ROM to the new 1.93 and I haven't had this problem....yet.
2 days without problems so I thought it may be safe to post.
IVe also had this on 1.37.x.x on my mda cmpct IV. Like everyone on here Im considering flashing but Im waiting for t-mobile to release an update (they keep telling me the will, presummably the 1.93.x.x) so that if I then brick the puppy - I can blame it on there rom upgrade.
I want this phone to be better, I know it can be with a ROM change...but I dont want to brick it and for once in my life will have some patience to wait.
Hi guys,
Well, I've searched the forum and get close...but no cigar. So, I'll go ahead and ask.
I have an AT&T Tilt, Flashed the 6.1 from XDA MONTHS ago, and have been running Slither's Cube...not even all the time...as well as the HTC Home Customizer.
Yep, that's it.
Well, I have purchased another Tilt with a busted screen (otherwise absolutely fine) for $30 and am waiting to afford a new screen for it...at which time I'll have a backup and then the Cooking and Flashing will begin in earnest!
But I digress. Here is the sequence of events, and where I am at now:
1) Went to hang up from a phone call (BT headset active) by pressing the "Hang Up" Button...no response from the phone.
2) Pressed the Power Button...no response.
3) Slid open the Keyboard...no response.
4) Held the Power Button...no response.
5) Dumped the battery and rebooted...AT&T Splash then Radio Info...stays right there. Screen will dim after awhile, but never goes out. Rebrightens when removing external Power.
6) Soft Reset...same result.
7) Only way to Power Down is dump the battery.
8) Removed SD and SIM...attempted Bootloader Screen
9) Bootloader DOES show up:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
Serial
10) I don't remember if there was anything with "Serial"...like a number or such...when I looked at it last (when flashing 6.1) so that may or may not be significant. There's nothing there now.
11) My Radios show up as:
R 1.27.14.09
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.62.00.00
I am avoiding Hard Reset or Re-Flash until I can at least figure out what happened...if anyone has any ideas...or find out that this is common and that's the best or only way to solve it etc.
Since I haven't found anything quite like this in the Forum, I'm presuming that it may not be so common and I may...or may NOT...be able to find a way back before going that path. As well, I really don't want to send it off for repair...although I have insurance and coverage through Hawk (our AT&T Provider) that would be reasonable for repair ($35) but perhaps inordinate for rreplacement ($175). I'd like to be able to resolve this myself, but not knowing what may be wrong leaves me only with Hard Reset and/or Re-Flash alternatives...if those will even work...so out goes the question:
Has anybody run into this or have any idea of why it happened or the BEST recourse to resolve it?
Thanks in advance for any and all info, y'all are awesome and I truly appreciate your help...
RAF
These phones freeze all the time. Software conflicts, too much running at once, and it just feels like screwing you when you need it most. And of course all of a sudden, the hardware just crashes and never works again.
It looks like a hard reset will solve your problems, unfortunately, unless you do regular backups, you will lose all your info.
Thanks denco7!
Well, this is the first time it has locked up that early in the boot...all others have been easily resolved.
Hard Reset is not an issue with Data...I do keep my phone (data) backed up and have most of my volatiles on the SD.
And, honestly, I don't mind having to reflash or reinstall my apps...at least not yet, once I start cooking my own I feel I'll get a bit testy when I have to 'start over'.
I should probably find a good full backup app to snapshot the whole phone, then just put it back on when things 'happen'.
I do have a full backup from December using the 'supplied' app, so it will at least have most of the tweaks in it.
I'm gonna do the Hard Reset and see if that clears this, but I must say I'm not that hopeful.
Not really an expert...not a noob either...but this technology is just not rocket science, and I can actually do that along with quite a bit more.
Don't ask me to write a driver tho...I respect anyone that has that kind of patience!
Suffice to say, this just doesn't "feel" like a resetable issue...but I'm game. I'll update once attempted.
Thanks again, see you on the other side...
RAF
Okay...no joy on the Hard Reset. Behavior has stayed the same. Kinda expected that tho...
Next stop, Re-flash the ROM. I'm gonna check on latest releases of 'Official' HTC ROMs...but if anyone has any suggestions I'm open.
I'm still hoping that someone out there knows what happened here, it would be helpful to know the 'why'.
Thanks again...
not so much a suggestion but a correction. You don't have a wm6.1 rom but actually have a wm6 rom because the radio you have flashed i.e. R 1.27.14.09
is a wm6 radio not wm6.1 and that radio is only compatible with the following roms:
AT&T 1.60.502.3
AT&T 1.61.502.2
AT&T 1.62.502.0
Q-Mobile 1.2 AT&T Version
(source for above info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182)
so make sure that your rom matches the radio you have. I would recommend that if flashing is not something new to you than go ahead and upgrade your rom and radio to wm6.1 rom and see if the issue presists.
hope this helps
first post you stated you have a 6.1 rom but your spl is for a 6.0 rom, either your not on a 6.1 rom or your on the wrong SPL and should HARDspl if your flashing custom roms.
Thanks Guys...
I had it in my head that I went to 6.1 when I flashed it last...went out and looked at the file and sure enough it was 6.0.
This is what happens when u have 7 kids, 6 female and 4 of those in college...I'm too broke to pay attention.
No not new to flashing, and when I can get home before 10-11p some night...or this weekend...that's my plan.
Looking for the best choice 6.1 to flash and attempt to bring it back, but still curious as to the behavior in the first place.
Thanks for pointing out my ADD, and all comments are welcome...
Hoping for the un-bricking soon...
RAF
Now I'm REALLY Currious...and Frustrated! A Little Help Please...
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
Rustafergi said:
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
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If you cannot flash a 6.1 rom or install the correct hard spl I would not even attempt using MTTY. Go to the rom section of this forum. Look for "spl rollup thread" it is a sticky from DaveShaw. Pick any 3.xx hard spl's for 6.1 rom and download. Now download jumpspl and place it somewhere on your device other than your memory card. Now run jumpspl and follow the rest of the directions in that thread. After you installed the correct SPL find a 6.1 rom and flash your device. If your sound doesn't work change your radio to a compatible radio, which would be listed in the "ultimate radio thread" by alltheway.
These are the basics. Hope it helps.
Rustafergi said:
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
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Wow! I think you missed the advice and wisdom given to you about NOT FLASHING a 6.1 ROM with the SPL for a 6.0 ROM...
Anyways, lets see if we can help... I don't think you are going to be able to flash a SPL, as you probably can't even get an active sync connection to copy over the files...
So, try getting into boot loader screen; you hold down the camera button and then press in the rest button and hold that until a tri-color screen appears...
Then tell us exactly what it says, just to make sure we know which SPL you have... Then I will post a link to the exact ROM you need to flash to hopefully bring her back to life.
If you are not able to get into boot loader, which wouldn't surprise me, someone else with more experience un-bricking will have to help.
Some Answers and Info...Still Confused
redbandana said:
If you cannot flash a 6.1 rom or install the correct hard spl I would not even attempt using MTTY. Go to the rom section of this forum. Look for "spl rollup thread" it is a sticky from DaveShaw. Pick any 3.xx hard spl's for 6.1 rom and download. Now download jumpspl and place it somewhere on your device other than your memory card. Now run jumpspl and follow the rest of the directions in that thread. After you installed the correct SPL find a 6.1 rom and flash your device. If your sound doesn't work change your radio to a compatible radio, which would be listed in the "ultimate radio thread" by alltheway.
These are the basics. Hope it helps.
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pjcforpres said:
Wow! I think you missed the advice and wisdom given to you about NOT FLASHING a 6.1 ROM with the SPL for a 6.0 ROM...
Anyways, lets see if we can help... I don't think you are going to be able to flash a SPL, as you probably can't even get an active sync connection to copy over the files...
So, try getting into boot loader screen; you hold down the camera button and then press in the rest button and hold that until a tri-color screen appears...
Then tell us exactly what it says, just to make sure we know which SPL you have... Then I will post a link to the exact ROM you need to flash to hopefully bring her back to life.
If you are not able to get into boot loader, which wouldn't surprise me, someone else with more experience un-bricking will have to help.
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Hi again,
Thanks to redbandana and pjcforpres for the responses...I thought I might not get anymore!
I'll start with pjcforpres,
First, my appologies if I have not been specific enough on my descriptions...I've been attempting to be more succinct (I'm not so good at that).
This was a Stock ROM Tilt, then I had flashed RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe quite awhile back...shortly after it was available.
I added Slither's Cube and the HTC Home Screen and Customizer and have run it that way since then.
Somehow, I got it in my head that I had flashed 6.1 but I was flat out mistaken...hence the comment in the earlier part of the thread.
Then we get to the #1 post in this thread...add some confusion and voila.
The ref'd 6.1 flash was also Stock...RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe...and I thought I read everything, incl that it replaces the SPL.
Durring the flash, it pauses @ 13%, the USB disconnect 'bing' sounds and the Bootloader screen reappears showing SPL-3.02.000.
Then, the USB reconnect 'bing' sounds, goes back to the % screen and then completes the flash successfully.
My Bootloader screen is now:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.000
CPLD-8
So...did I miss something and screw up? Or was I on the right track?
And redbandana,
It did successfully flash 6.1, but it still doesn't start...specifically, get passed the initial AT&T Splash.
Although I had already thought of going to JockyW's HardSPL 3.29, I cannot 'see' the phone in XP and therefore cannot get JumpSPL onto it...so, no HardSPL (unless I missed something else in the threads).
It DOES however give me the USB 'bing' sound when I go into the Bootloader...but clicking on the "Mobile Device" icon in Windows Exploder leaves a 'blank' right pane.
Before your post, I had read up on MTTY and noted the DON'Ts...like DON'T use task 2a!...and found several threads with commands.
None of the info commands seem to fuction, like info 2, info 7 or info 8 so I don't have much 'info' there.
One of the things I tried was 'task 28' to format the thing in case there was some corruption...this was the response:
Cmd>task 28
Format start
Storage start sector=0xC2C0, total sector=0xF000
Storage start block=800, total block=960
Total Bad Block in CE: 1
Erase physical block from 1091 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1397
formatstorage Bad block found: 1398
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
Format end
So I looked for 'bad blocks' on the Forum and there are suggestions to contact JockyW and GSLEON3 for more help.
I haven't as yet done this thinking I can work my way through this by searching the Forum and monitoring this Post.
My searches for MTTY Commands have shown me that there are different Commands for different SPLs, and the info is way scattered and confusing.
It is becoming clear(er) to me that I have an issue that is not that normal...or at least not with an intermediate level 'fix'.
That's why I asked for more help in the right direction, I feel like I've hit this pretty hard and done alot of footwork on my own.
I also feel like I'm running out of options and may resort to bugging JockyW and GSLEON3...unless there are any more suggestions
PLEASE let me know if there is more info that I can provide to narrow this down, or some procedure to attemt, or an MTTY comand that will give us more info, or another search in the Forum for something specific I've missed...or simply some PFM that can be performed...and I'll be HAPPY to comply!
Thanks again...and again...for the assistance, my grattitude and appreciation out!
RAF
I am going to be short and swet for the moment... my computer crashed so I am solely on my phone until I work again around 2 central time USA...
Good news is that there is a chance without MTTY to get you running, and if not, those with the knowledge are very hepful and patient.
I will do the searches tomorrow for the stock ROM you should try, and give a walk through on how to flash using a micro SD card.
I am out for now, and will get back to you as soon as I can tomorrow.
Patient and Prepared
Thanks pjc...if we can fix this I'll vote for you
I sincerely appreciate the assistace, and PLEASE let me know if there's any research I can do to facilitate.
If you're willing, let me know if I took a wrong turn somewhere or if I did something to make this worse...I like to learn from my mistakes (I AM pretty good at those...)
I just got the new screen for my backup Tilt and I'll be swapping that out tomorrow (uh...today) sometime, so I'll have a reference phone soon.
Askew but relevant, I'm on day 12 of a nasty cranial muscle spasm and 3 days into meds for it...so we'll see if I can stay focused
Thanks again and in advance...
RAF...Tilted
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Try downloading from here... it is the 100% official AT&T Tilt 6.1 ROM, plus upgrade tool.
This includes everything you need, and is probably what you flashed already, but it sounds like you had a bad flash or something...
Make sure your computer doesn't go into hibernate during this process, and that you don't have anything running other than the update program and activesync...
Also, make sure when you run the update program, you right click and select 'run as administrator' or 'run as' then in the menu that comes after that select administrator.
If you can't establish an activesync connection, or if you are using Vista, and thus no Windows Mobile Device Center connection can be established, let me know, and I will track down the ROM by itself and the Radio by itself and walk you through that.
This should be the easiest fix, though, so we will try this first.
Been There, Done That...I Think ?!?
pjcforpres said:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
1] Try downloading from here... it is the 100% official AT&T Tilt 6.1 ROM, plus upgrade tool.
2] This includes everything you need, and is probably what you flashed already, but it sounds like you had a bad flash or something...
Make sure your computer doesn't go into hibernate during this process, and that you don't have anything running other than the update program and activesync...
3] Also, make sure when you run the update program, you right click and select 'run as administrator' or 'run as' then in the menu that comes after that select administrator.
If you can't establish an activesync connection, or if you are using Vista, and thus no Windows Mobile Device Center connection can be established, let me know, and I will track down the ROM by itself and the Radio by itself and walk you through that.
This should be the easiest fix, though, so we will try this first.
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1] Yep, same one I have already flashed several times to determine if there was a pattern.
2] ActiveSync will not connect...remember from #1 in this post:
1) Went to hang up from a phone call (BT headset active) by pressing the "Hang Up" Button...no response from the phone.
2) Pressed the Power Button...no response.
3) Slid open the Keyboard...no response.
4) Held the Power Button...no response.
5) Dumped the battery and rebooted...AT&T Splash then Radio Info...stays right there. Screen will dim after awhile, but never goes out. Rebrightens when removing external Power.
6) Soft Reset...same result.
7) Only way to Power Down is dump the battery.
8) Removed SD and SIM...attempted Bootloader Screen
9) Bootloader DOES show up:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
I've never gotten passed the initial AT&T Splash since then...no matter soft hard reset flash the 6.0 ROM that was already on it or this 6.1 version.
Only difference is when I flashed this 6.1 ROM, the Radio and Protocol Versions that normally pop up at the bottom in red no longer pop up.
It now stays at the initial AT&T Splash, no versions, and never dims the backlight.
The ONLY time my Laptop 'sees' the Phone is when I put in into the Bootloader I get the USB 'bu-bingk'.
MTTY can see it, and the ROM Upgrades see it and run successfully...but Exploder can't and neither does ActiveSync.
Just to clarify that I've been there more than once...
3] Well, that I have not attempted...but all my previous flashes have gone fine (I am the only user on my Alenware Aurora m7700...and effectively I AM the Administrator), so I'll attempt that...(see next).
I downloaded, overwrote and ran this 6.1 ROM again...I set this XP install with me as the only Administrator (only user other than Guest), and I want to point something out that may be significant:
The Screnshots below show that there's no info in the Current Image Version area, I click on 'Update' and get the 2nd one.
(okay, sorry I haven't attempted very hard to embrace multiquote or embed a screenshot yet )
But this has happened every attemp to reflash after the initial sequence of events. As well, the same events recurred during the flash as all attempts before:
Durring the flash, it pauses @ 13%, the USB disconnect 'bing' sounds and the Bootloader screen reappears showing SPL-3.02.000.
Then, the USB reconnect 'bing' sounds, goes back to the % screen and then completes the flash successfully.
So...did I screw up somewhere? I really thought I had a handle on the 'small steps' that I took..it was the 'next steps' that I was mildly trepidatious about.
My understanding and instincts point to the 'bad blocks' errors durring the MTTY 'task 28' format, but I can't find anything pertinent to 'do' about it in the Forums...other than contacting JockyW or GSLEON3.
I want to try SOMETHING on my own before I go bothering them with a PM...although I've read (and even learned) alot here recently on TOP of what I had already learned over the last 2½ years, I feel I've got to at least attempt something before begging for help that way.
Still, I haven't found a path to get this basal into the core of the phone to noodle (safely mind you) around and become more adept so that I can solve these issues on my own...and it may be time to capitulate.
Let me know if you've spotted an error on my part...something I did or didn't do...or if there's another path I should take or search in the Forum I should look up.
Thanks ton again...and my appologies to all for my un-succinct pontifications...
(S)tilted...RAF
I don't think you are really doing anything wrong on your part, it just doesn't want to flash right... I had you try the stock stuff again just to make sure it was a clean download, and a clean flash.
I am not sure if it is the SPL not matching the ROM, or the Radio... The MTTY commands do indicate a problem with something not flashing right to the phone. Especially since that download has been recommended and successful so many times for people with a similar situation. I have done a fair amount of looking into this myself, and I have found a couple solutions:
1. Some people found success by flashing the same stock AT&T ROM 2 -5 times, and then it finally caught and worked right.
2. Others found luck by flashing a HardSPL, then new Radio, then new ROM.
3. They PM one of the greats... right now in the Kaiser area, JockyW is amazing! But is mostly focused on newer devices. I would recommend contacting mskip or DaveShaw. They have much more experience than I do, and should have a better idea of exactly what those block errors mean, and the solution....
If I were you I would try one last time doing a hard rest, you may need to hold down the 2 soft keys and the rest button extra long to get it to register... I would also try flashing that same upgrade 1 last time, followed by 1 last shot at a hard rest. If you still have the same stuff going on, I would contact those 2 guys and see what their wisdom says... mskip moderates the "NOOB flashing guide" thread and DaveShaw is a moderator for the Kaiser section in general.
Thanks pjcforpres...Contacting DaveShaw...Any Other Ideas?
Okay, one more time...and, no joy. Held the Soft Keys for 2 mintes solid for the Hard Reset, Reflashed, then another 2min Hard Reset.
I've resorted to sending DaveShaw a PM per the suggestion and will patiently wait for a reply.
In the mean time, if there's ANY other suggestions or a list of MTTY commands that run on the 3.56.000 SPL that can get info from the phone to help determine what the actual problem is or to correct bad blocks I'd be SERIOUSLY appreciative and VERY grateful.
Thanks to all who have responded, and in advance to all who may help from here...
RAF
A Little Updated Info:
Replaced the screen on my 'backup' Tilt, and flashed the RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_s ign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe ROM thaT I had flashed on the 'bricked' one.
It had the same behavior @ 13%, so I'm certain now that the flash went fine...I am even more convinced, with all of the events and symptoms to this point, that the issue lies in the 'bad blocks' reported durring the MTTY task 28 format.
I've left a PM for DaveShaw...and I AM patient...but if there is someone that may be more appropriate for this question I'd like to contact them as well. If anyone knows the right Guru, please let me know.
Thanks again to all...
RAF
Well I'm here at last sorry for the delay in getting back to you - I'm not sure how much I can help you though .
Can you post the output of "info 2" and "info 8" from an MTTY connection to your bootloader.
Also, can you please clarify: are you stuck at the bootloader (red/green/blue) or the splash screen (with R G D)?
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Well I'm here at last sorry for the delay in getting back to you - I'm not sure how much I can help you though .
Can you post the output of "info 2" and "info 8" from an MTTY connection to your bootloader.
Also, can you please clarify: are you stuck at the bootloader (red/green/blue) or the splash screen (with R G D)?
Thanks
Dave
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Wow man, THANKS for just bein here!
That's just it Dave, none of the info commands in MTTY seem to return anything (see #10). I've used MTTY: ver. 0.01 2001 and ver. 1.42 1997-2001 and both report literally nothing for info 2 info 7 or info 8...just another Cmd> prompt. However, (also in #10) I get to the 'bad blocks' ref running "task 28":
Cmd>task 28
Format start
Storage start sector=0xC2C0, total sector=0xF000
Storage start block=800, total block=960
Total Bad Block in CE: 1
Erase physical block from 1091 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1397
formatstorage Bad block found: 1398
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
Format end
Remember, the stuff in #1 of the thread happens and then I went through all this digging...took it to where I could and posted.
This wasn't a HardSPL fail or a bad Flash... I had BEEN running stock HTC 6.0 WWE with Slither's Cube, the HTC Home Screen and Home Customizer.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe (flashed 07/20/08)
This isn't a RUUNBH issue either, and I can get into Bootloader and I'm not 'stuck' there...currently:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.000
CPLD-8
I can flash stock ROMs all day long w/no errors...flashed HTC 6.1 WWE on my backup Tilt to be sure the behaviors were the same, and they are exactly.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe runs FINE on the backup Tilt.
After flashing the HTC 6.1 WWE on the 'bricked' one however, there is no longer the R G D Radio Protocol info at the bottom of the AT&T Splash after the initial Splash...it was there before the 6.1 flash, and that's where it used to hang: Initial Splash, R G D, hang...backlight eventually dimed but never went out...battery dump only way off.
Now it hangs at the Initial Splash, NO R G D, NO backlight dim...still needs battery dump for off. It ACTS like it's lost it's damn mind...
I'm pretty sure I 'downgraded' back to the 6.0 mentioned above and went thru some similar steps to confirm, but I didn't write it all down and I'm way ADD so I can do that one again and record it all this time...unless that's a bad idea.
I very recently (like as I was searching I saw you had answered my plea...) found some other references to a MFG HardSPL that someone was thinking about working on to fix bad blocks, but I haven't read through it all yet. And, since Exploder and ActiveSync simply can't 'see' the phone, I'm not sure that I could get a HardSPL on the thing in the first place...'cause I can't get no JumpSPL on the phone itself...should've done that back when it was working I guess
I truly believe I'm at the 'needing guru help' level at this point, but if you see something I should do PLEASE point me that way and I'll dive right in. Also, like I've asked others, if you see something I did wrong or in the wrong order or whatever, please let me know that also...there's GOT to be something I can actually LEARN from this.
I warned you I tend to pontificate, but I hope that this clears up where I'm at. ANY help you can provide is fantastic and greatly appreciated, even if it's just to tell me to go somewhere else (I'm kinda used to that )
Thanks again, seriously...
RAF
In that case I have no idea. I think GSLEON3, jockyw2001 or cmonex are going to be the only one's who can help you.
Dave