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Multiple CID unlocking necessary?

If I had already unlocked my CID and SIM when i bought my 8125 right before updating to a 2.17 ROM, does that mean I have to unlock my device again before changing flash the ROM once more or was that something I only have to do once?

No, once is good enuf
Cheers
hbr

Cid Locked or Not ?

Hello :
My frind wizard is ipl /spl 2.16 ( no more numbers)
Its a g3 ?
Do i need to cid unlock to go to wm6 ?
Wich version of wm6 do you all recomend »?
Thnks a Lot

If you read the wiki you will know that your friend have a G3 device. and you can flash wm6 rom wether you have CID unlock or lock but we recommend you unlock it..

Thnks ! But how can i see if it is unlocked or locked ?
What is the rom with wm6 that you recomend ?
Thnks

The easiest way to say whether your device is locked or unlocked is by sticking in a SIM-card from a provider that did not come with your device.
If it accepts it, and you are able to make a call your friend's device is unlocked, if it says something similar to unrecognized SIMcard or please insert a different SIM, the device is locked.

but unlocking the CID Unlocked device will not harm your device..
just to make sure..

Ok.
SIM LOCKED is The SAME as CID LOCKED ?
Thnks a lot

no!..
its different..

sjolmers said:
The easiest way to say whether your device is locked or unlocked is by sticking in a SIM-card from a provider that did not come with your device.
If it accepts it, and you are able to make a call your friend's device is unlocked, if it says something similar to unrecognized SIMcard or please insert a different SIM, the device is locked.
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This just tests if your phone is SIM unlocked... doesn't prove that it's CID unlocked.
AFAIK, the only sure fire way to test if your phone is CID unlocked is to flash it with a different ROM that has ipl/spl. If you decide to do so though, I'd just recommend going through the g3 unlock procedure and know that it will be unlocked for sure.
Regarding which WM6 is recommended, just do a search or skim through the first few pages of threads... There have already been several polls regarding this. There is no "best" one... it all depends on what you are looking for. To start you off, some popular ones are: Most Beautiful Edition, PDAViet3, PDAViet4, Underground Edition and Orwell...

the best to do is not to check if you're a CID LOCK or UNLOCK..
just UNLOCK it even if its LOCK or UNLOCK..
atleast if you did.. you're so sure that now its unlock..

Thnks,
I will do.

Tsuioku said:
This just tests if your phone is SIM unlocked... doesn't prove that it's CID unlocked.
AFAIK, the only sure fire way to test if your phone is CID unlocked is to flash it with a different ROM that has ipl/spl. If you decide to do so though, I'd just recommend going through the g3 unlock procedure and know that it will be unlocked for sure.
Regarding which WM6 is recommended, just do a search or skim through the first few pages of threads... There have already been several polls regarding this. There is no "best" one... it all depends on what you are looking for. To start you off, some popular ones are: Most Beautiful Edition, PDAViet3, PDAViet4, Underground Edition and Orwell...
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Simple way to check CID is the type2 command in mtty
[I am currently @work, so I can't give the exact command]
If it returns SuperCID it means it's unlocked

Please help a noob - never upgraded a ROM before

Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked

Miker2006 said:
Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck

zabardast_1 said:
hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck
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@zabardast_1 dude..
@Miker2006
Upgrading won't affect your Sim unlock status, it's permanent.
You don't NEED to CID unlock your phone to upgrade:
You can use Soft SPL to make the phone temporary think it's CID unlocked (while flashing).
Or you can semi-permanent let the phone think it's CID unlocked by Hard SPL.
This SPL will mimic a CID unlocked state, so you can flash all kinds of ROMs to your device.
BTW ShellTool WON'T cid unlock your device, Hard SPL is the closest you get to a Free CID unlock.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS. Read the stickies before Flashing, don't turn your wizard into a brick.

Actually it is a good show case that reading helps .. one day after his post Miker2006 did ..
Miker2006 said:
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Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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xda-developers free trinity cid-unlocker, is cid lockable again???

hi,
in a german forum i read, that only the cid unlocker which you had to pay for permanently gives you supercid status. now, i unlocked my trinity with the xda-developer version ''sspl'' for free, and want to restore the original condition, with locked cid, and original rom...
is this possible, and if it is, how?
kind regards, luki
ps: i used pofs method to unlock the trinity

Hi.
I'm searching for the same question and that's why I'm still on original WM5 ROM.
Mine is locked to Vodafone PT and I'm afraid to put another ROM like Dopod one, and if I got some problem, I don't know if it's possible to return the Trinity to the original state (CID) and send it back to waranty.
I keep an eye on this post and if you find some information, please put in here.
Good luck.

I don't think that you could CID locked your PPC !! But if it's just for going back to warranty...Often, they didn't see anything if you reinstall the original Rom ...

shym said:
I don't think that you could CID locked your PPC !! But if it's just for going back to warranty...Often, they didn't see anything if you reinstall the original Rom ...
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Are only branded trinitys cid locked ? what is cid lock ?

CID = Customer Identity
I don't know exactly why CIDs exist but i think it has something to do with licenses and stuff like this.
And no, original HTC devices have a CID lock too.
But @ shym I think you shuold watch out for the CID bypasser, I'm pretty sure it doesn't unlock your phone but you will be able to flash other ROMs anyway...

That's exactly what I'm looking for.
A way to flash another ROM, like Dopod or coocked one, and if I don't like or need to go back to WM5, just put the operator (Vodafone) original ROM and returnt it to warranty, if is the case (hope not)
Don't want to risk my Trinity to loose the warranty if the service found the phone was CID unlocked or else.

T-Mobile MDA 2.26.10.2

Anyone can provide me a link to the above mentioned ROM?
can find it anywhere, tried to download from Tmobile but it requires 10 digit phone number for verification,
thanks a lot

http://rapidshare.com/files/38880130/ruu_prodigy_226102_22610105_022511_tmous_wwe_ship.exe.html

2.26.10.2
is it safe to install a ROM downloaded from rapidshare? what if the file has been meddled with?
Besides, i have an unlocked t-mobile mda (G3). Would it become locked if i apply the new ROM?
Thank you for bearing with me.

resilient said:
is it safe to install a ROM downloaded from rapidshare? what if the file has been meddled with?
Besides, i have an unlocked t-mobile mda (G3). Would it become locked if i apply the new ROM?
Thank you for bearing with me.
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Yes! its safe to download from rapidshare.G3 phone once CID unlocked remains unlocked ever after,flashing an official rom doesn't put a CID lock again

CID Locked!
Sorry for bothering again.
Wizard service tool (WST) is telling me that my phone is cid locked. But i am using it on another carrier (not tmobile) in pakistan. So is it really cid locked then? If it really is locked, is it advisable to upgrade the rom to the one provided by tmobile? I mean, is there any chance that it would become locked? or should i cid unlock it first (using WST) and then upgrade?
Thanks

resilient said:
Sorry for bothering again.
Wizard service tool (WST) is telling me that my phone is cid locked. But i am using it on another carrier (not tmobile) in pakistan. So is it really cid locked then? If it really is locked, is it advisable to upgrade the rom to the one provided by tmobile? I mean, is there any chance that it would become locked? or should i cid unlock it first (using WST) and then upgrade?
Thanks
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Ok,I'll try to explain what is SIM_Lock and CID_Lock,they both are entirely different functions.
SIM_Lock:-
SIM is the abbrevation of Subscriber Identity Module . it Hold the IMSE (International Mobile Subscriber Identity ) and TMSI (Temparery Mobile Subscriber Identity)
Feature which would lock a phone to a specific network or set of networks. Used by providers that subsidize the phones to make sure the customers stay with the provider that got them the phone.
Some phones are locked to the specific telco from which you purchase your phone, eg you can't use a locked O2 phone using a Vodaphone SIM/smart card. To use SIM card from other telco, you need to SIM unlock your phone. Note: In general, the phrase 'unlock your phone' usually refers to SIM-unlock, not CID unlock.
In Pakistan,Phones are sold as SIM Unlocked,thats why any SIM of any Network works with them.
CID_Lock:-
Carrier Id - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Qtek (Qtek is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Qtek ROMs (the carrier's ROMs). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. Note: In general, the phrase 'unlock your phone' usually refers to SIM-unlock, not CID unlock.
So,Phones sold in Pakistan are usually SIM_Unlocked but they are not CID_Unlocked.
Now,if its running a T-mobile Rom (OS) then YES! you can upgrade to the latest T-Mobile rom,there's no need to CID_Unlock the phone,but if you want to upgrade to any latest Custom Build WM6.1 Rom,then definitely,you'll have to CID_Unlock the phone.

Thank you
Thank you
You have been most helpful

Successful Flashing
Successfully CID Unlocked and flashed my Tmobile MDA.
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26
Radio: 2.25.11
OS: 2.26.10.2

Is it work for G4 ?
Thanks for your repply,
DM