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unlock question

once you unlocked your device can you put it back in the original state later (with imei again) ??

eldiablo666 said:
once you unlocked your device can you put it back in the original state later (with imei again) ??
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I assume you mean SIM unlock? I don't think that the current free SIM unlocker for the Wizard allows it to be re-locked. The paid services may do that.
If you mean CID unlocking, which allows for the installation of alternative ROMs, I've read on the forums that it can be restored, but I don't know the process. As part of CID unlocking with lokiwiz or awizard the original unique ID is stored in a file.

sorry for not beeing clearly but i meant CID unlock thanx for answering so quick

I know I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box, but how do you check if your phone is sim/cid locked without putting in a sim card from a different carrier than the phone came from.

what is cid-unlocking

Hey guys
I just dont understand what cid/sim unlocking is. Is all the phones locked and why do we need to unlock it . I am planning to upgrade my k-jam currently running wm 5.0 to wm 6.0, so should i unlock my phone and also how do we know the phone is locked or not.
can we downgrade to older rom once updated to newer rom.
plz help i am confused...

use the search button...ur questions will be answered...=)

chaksashi said:
Hey guys
I just dont understand what cid/sim unlocking is. Is all the phones locked and why do we need to unlock it . I am planning to upgrade my k-jam currently running wm 5.0 to wm 6.0, so should i unlock my phone and also how do we know the phone is locked or not.
can we downgrade to older rom once updated to newer rom.
plz help i am confused...
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If you got your phone from a carrier i.e. with a contract it is most likely locked to that carrier.
SIM lock means that you can only use SIM cards from the carrier you are locked to. If you SIM unlock your phone you will be able to use sim cards from other carriers or pay as you go plans without receiving the invalid sim message.
CID Lock means that your phones software is locked to your carrier. This means that you can only flash updates from that carrier. No custom flashing, no cross carrier flashing. Before you flash anything from this forum you will most likely need to be CID unlocked. Read the stickies to find out how to do this. Make sure you follow all the steps. The process works.
If you have not personally CID unlocked your device you must assume you ARE CID LOCKED. Even if someone before you unlocked your device it will not hurt to do it again. If you have any problems flashing your device this is the first question back that you will get when you ask for help.

god dammit. there is a wiki and nooooooo one reads it.
MODS, PLEASE ENVOKE A TRIAL PERIOD BEFORE 1ST POST.

Zzan said:
If you got your phone from a carrier i.e. with a contract it is most likely locked to that carrier.
SIM lock means that you can only use SIM cards from the carrier you are locked to. If you SIM unlock your phone you will be able to use sim cards from other carriers or pay as you go plans without receiving the invalid sim message.
CID Lock means that your phones software is locked to your carrier. This means that you can only flash updates from that carrier. No custom flashing, no cross carrier flashing. Before you flash anything from this forum you will most likely need to be CID unlocked. Read the stickies to find out how to do this. Make sure you follow all the steps. The process works.
If you have not personally CID unlocked your device you must assume you ARE CID LOCKED. Even if someone before you unlocked your device it will not hurt to do it again. If you have any problems flashing your device this is the first question back that you will get when you ask for help.
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Great advice and gently put....!
Asking questions is ok but do your research 1st! 90% of what you need to know has already been discussed, so the answers are here. If you don't find an answer, by all means ask...it is a forum.

hiimcliff said:
god dammit. there is a wiki and nooooooo one reads it.
MODS, PLEASE ENVOKE A TRIAL PERIOD BEFORE 1ST POST.
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I'm an experienced user and I never once thought to read the Wiki until I needed some quick answers so understand first time users. This is a forum

Zzan said:
If you got your phone from a carrier i.e. with a contract it is most likely locked to that carrier.
SIM lock means that you can only use SIM cards from the carrier you are locked to. If you SIM unlock your phone you will be able to use sim cards from other carriers or pay as you go plans without receiving the invalid sim message.
CID Lock means that your phones software is locked to your carrier. This means that you can only flash updates from that carrier. No custom flashing, no cross carrier flashing. Before you flash anything from this forum you will most likely need to be CID unlocked. Read the stickies to find out how to do this. Make sure you follow all the steps. The process works.
If you have not personally CID unlocked your device you must assume you ARE CID LOCKED. Even if someone before you unlocked your device it will not hurt to do it again. If you have any problems flashing your device this is the first question back that you will get when you ask for help.
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thanks for your help Zzan now i have understood the CID unlocking stuff

Sorry peeps another noob question

I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony

maxoutput said:
I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony
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If you personally haven't unlocked it it is most likely CID locked. For a G4 you will have to go to the pay site to CID unlock.
There is also a G4 sub-forum of the Wizard forum that might have a good bit of information that you would find useful.

maxoutput said:
I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony
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Use this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038 to read the CID block and report its status

Nice one Mestrini! Just checked and as suspected its CID locked,damn,blast and phoo lol.

Please help a noob - never upgraded a ROM before

Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked

Miker2006 said:
Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck

zabardast_1 said:
hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck
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@zabardast_1 dude..
@Miker2006
Upgrading won't affect your Sim unlock status, it's permanent.
You don't NEED to CID unlock your phone to upgrade:
You can use Soft SPL to make the phone temporary think it's CID unlocked (while flashing).
Or you can semi-permanent let the phone think it's CID unlocked by Hard SPL.
This SPL will mimic a CID unlocked state, so you can flash all kinds of ROMs to your device.
BTW ShellTool WON'T cid unlock your device, Hard SPL is the closest you get to a Free CID unlock.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS. Read the stickies before Flashing, don't turn your wizard into a brick.

Actually it is a good show case that reading helps .. one day after his post Miker2006 did ..
Miker2006 said:
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Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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Help please.i think i screwed up here

i have a g3 wizard(dopod 838) at ipl/spl at 2.21.and so i thought its ok to flash Blackdiamond 3.1 at 2.XX.The whole process kept stuck at 99%.The wizard now only enters the bootloader screen.
then i read a guide that i need to flash t-mobile 2.26 first,my bad.Ok,downloaded it and tried to flash it, then i got the "ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID"
cant flash to 2.26 and the ruu for bd kept stuck at 99% still.
im stuck here and kinda confused.How do i fix this?
and if its ok can any1 suggest me a rom with touchflo which is kinda lightweight or simple?
thanx in advance guys

to start off with the easy ?'s first...
was your wizard cid unlocked before you attempted to flash?
are you able to hard reset?

yep its cid unlocked coz i've used two diff telco on it.
previously on wm5 i can hard reset

zyulander said:
yep its cid unlocked coz i've used two diff telco on it.
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CID and SIM unlocked are not the same thing. Just because you've used a different Telco (ie: SIM) means you are SIM unlocked. To flash a rom from a different Carrier or the custom roms found here, you have to be CID unlocked. Please see the How to Flash post that is stickied at the top of this forum and follow every single step.

oic.
im pretty sure its cid unlocked coz theres no carrier id such as cingular,at&t n such on it.n no carrier specific apps previously.
this theory makes sense rite?

zyulander said:
oic.
im pretty sure its cid unlocked coz theres no carrier id such as cingular,at&t n such on it.n no carrier specific apps previously.
this theory makes sense rite?
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no not necessarily, i would follow the instructions in the topic suggested in the previous post (mfrazzz). paying close attention to section 3.6

zyulander said:
oic.
im pretty sure its cid unlocked coz theres no carrier id such as cingular,at&t n such on it.n no carrier specific apps previously.
this theory makes sense rite?
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Just CID unlock it and quit guessing. The fact you got an invalid Vendor ID (stated in your first post) means you are still Carrier Locked. I'm trying to help, but if you think you know better, then feel free to go on your own. If you keep guessing and doing things like this, you are going to brick your phone. Either go back to the official rom that came with your phone, or follow the instructions THAT WILL WORK IF YOU DO EVERY STEP.

ok.ill do all the steps.thanks.

Simply to say, Hard SPL your device. That unlocks CID (country ID)
Regards,
Carty..