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Cid Locked or Not ?

Hello :
My frind wizard is ipl /spl 2.16 ( no more numbers)
Its a g3 ?
Do i need to cid unlock to go to wm6 ?
Wich version of wm6 do you all recomend »?
Thnks a Lot

If you read the wiki you will know that your friend have a G3 device. and you can flash wm6 rom wether you have CID unlock or lock but we recommend you unlock it..

Thnks ! But how can i see if it is unlocked or locked ?
What is the rom with wm6 that you recomend ?
Thnks

The easiest way to say whether your device is locked or unlocked is by sticking in a SIM-card from a provider that did not come with your device.
If it accepts it, and you are able to make a call your friend's device is unlocked, if it says something similar to unrecognized SIMcard or please insert a different SIM, the device is locked.

but unlocking the CID Unlocked device will not harm your device..
just to make sure..

Ok.
SIM LOCKED is The SAME as CID LOCKED ?
Thnks a lot

no!..
its different..

sjolmers said:
The easiest way to say whether your device is locked or unlocked is by sticking in a SIM-card from a provider that did not come with your device.
If it accepts it, and you are able to make a call your friend's device is unlocked, if it says something similar to unrecognized SIMcard or please insert a different SIM, the device is locked.
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This just tests if your phone is SIM unlocked... doesn't prove that it's CID unlocked.
AFAIK, the only sure fire way to test if your phone is CID unlocked is to flash it with a different ROM that has ipl/spl. If you decide to do so though, I'd just recommend going through the g3 unlock procedure and know that it will be unlocked for sure.
Regarding which WM6 is recommended, just do a search or skim through the first few pages of threads... There have already been several polls regarding this. There is no "best" one... it all depends on what you are looking for. To start you off, some popular ones are: Most Beautiful Edition, PDAViet3, PDAViet4, Underground Edition and Orwell...

the best to do is not to check if you're a CID LOCK or UNLOCK..
just UNLOCK it even if its LOCK or UNLOCK..
atleast if you did.. you're so sure that now its unlock..

Thnks,
I will do.

Tsuioku said:
This just tests if your phone is SIM unlocked... doesn't prove that it's CID unlocked.
AFAIK, the only sure fire way to test if your phone is CID unlocked is to flash it with a different ROM that has ipl/spl. If you decide to do so though, I'd just recommend going through the g3 unlock procedure and know that it will be unlocked for sure.
Regarding which WM6 is recommended, just do a search or skim through the first few pages of threads... There have already been several polls regarding this. There is no "best" one... it all depends on what you are looking for. To start you off, some popular ones are: Most Beautiful Edition, PDAViet3, PDAViet4, Underground Edition and Orwell...
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Simple way to check CID is the type2 command in mtty
[I am currently @work, so I can't give the exact command]
If it returns SuperCID it means it's unlocked

Sorry peeps another noob question

I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony

maxoutput said:
I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony
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If you personally haven't unlocked it it is most likely CID locked. For a G4 you will have to go to the pay site to CID unlock.
There is also a G4 sub-forum of the Wizard forum that might have a good bit of information that you would find useful.

maxoutput said:
I have a vodafone U.K G4 Wizard,i understand some are CID locked some are not.I cant find any info explaining how i can tell though,should i just try and flash to another operators rom and if it refuses its locked?The phone is sim unlocked.
Cheers Tony
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Use this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038 to read the CID block and report its status

Nice one Mestrini! Just checked and as suspected its CID locked,damn,blast and phoo lol.

Please help a noob - never upgraded a ROM before

Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked

Miker2006 said:
Hi People
I am new to upgrading. Before I get the business of "you have not read the posts" I have read the posts. That's why I am writing here. The more I read, the more contradicting it is. I have the following:
T-Mobile MDA Unlocked SIM
IPL/SPL 2.26.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
I know this is a G4, but I have read that you can flash a ROM to an locked CID, but other areas say you cannot. I also have seen many different guides to flash, but some say the CID have to be unlocked others don't. I also have not seen whether the original ROM is saved in case you want or need to put it back. I have also read that you may have to input the GSM settings (I use Rogers in Canada). I bought this unit on eBay unlocked and all I had to do was put in my SIM card and it worked. Will the same happen if I upgrade the ROM? I find after reading so many threads it seems so confusing and was hoping someone here could help me out as you all seem to love flashing ROMs.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mike
Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck

zabardast_1 said:
hi,
ok,now let me try to explain in plain words,
1. U cannot for sure upgrade to a newer rom untill u r CID unlocked, now as u say u got ur wizzard from ebay.now it must have come with a pre-installed OS,plz check from which carrier it is from.If its Cid locked than it can only be upgraded with that official rom from which it came pre-installed with. But if u want to upgrade to some other wm6 cooked rom than u'll have to get it Cid unlocked.
now to upgrade,do the following:-
a)If u want to upgrade with official rom from which it came preinstalled,than visit the official site and download the official rom for ur exact device and upgrade without any Cid unlocking process ,its fairly self explanatory,how to upgrade with official rom as it comes with a self upgrade romutility.
b) if u want to upgrade to any other wm6 cooked rom,than i'am afraid u'll have to CID unlock ur device.As u say u have a G4 device there's a different procedure to Cid unlock it than G3.It's done with a utility tool called SHELLTOOL.search and read how to go about it.First download a tool "WST tool" by Mestrini ,install it and check if ur device is Cid locked or unlocked.If u find it locked than adopt the Cid unlock method through SHELL tool,if its already Cid unlocked than go ahead & flash with any wm6 rom.
As for ur question about sim unlocked,its different being from CID unlock.with sim unlocked u can put any carrier sim and use ur device.But with Cid unlock u can upgrade to any rom u desire.
Well, once SIM/CID unlocked it remains unlocked forever,unless u personelly don't lock SIM/CID.
Well,I believe if it came SIM unlocked, than it might be CID unlocked also.cuz all the carriers never give Sim unlocked.but than there might be some exceptions.therefore u must get it confirmed before any upgrade.
Hope I was able to clear some of ur doubts.goodluck
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@zabardast_1 dude..
@Miker2006
Upgrading won't affect your Sim unlock status, it's permanent.
You don't NEED to CID unlock your phone to upgrade:
You can use Soft SPL to make the phone temporary think it's CID unlocked (while flashing).
Or you can semi-permanent let the phone think it's CID unlocked by Hard SPL.
This SPL will mimic a CID unlocked state, so you can flash all kinds of ROMs to your device.
BTW ShellTool WON'T cid unlock your device, Hard SPL is the closest you get to a Free CID unlock.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS. Read the stickies before Flashing, don't turn your wizard into a brick.

Actually it is a good show case that reading helps .. one day after his post Miker2006 did ..
Miker2006 said:
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Read some more and took a chance and it worked
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Att Tilt How To Unlock Sim?

I HAVE ATT TILT
IN BOOTLOADER MODE IT SHOWS
KAISI*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD-8
How can i unlock it? if I put any other sim rather then ATT its show SIM LOCK
Please help
Thanks

Maybe you should read the WIKI to start. But I used KaiserUnlocker to unlock my sim card, but that is what I did. You do what you want, but I would first suggest again that you READ THE WIKI.

maansii said:
I HAVE ATT TILT
IN BOOTLOADER MODE IT SHOWS
KAISI*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD-8
How can i unlock it? if I put any other sim rather then ATT its show SIM LOCK
Please help
Thanks
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just like kdkobes said please read the wiki. The question you ask has been answered many times, trust me i asked it. but the info is there.
and secondly, if you got the phone "legally" and are an att customer all you had to do is dial "611" from your phone get in touch with att and they will give you the sim unlock code for your device ... ; just tell them you are going oversees (use a country like pakistan were att doesn't provide service) and need the unlock code .. i did it and they gave me the code in 5 minutes. Or you can use pof's hardspl which will unlock your cid and sim install olipro's spl (enabling u to flash new roms to your phone).
But going back to statment one, please read the wiki
cheers,
sire

Calling AT&T vs. HARDSPL
If you get AT&T to give you a SIM Unlock code, do you still need to run HARDSLPL to install a cooked ROM?

jdmba said:
If you get AT&T to give you a SIM Unlock code, do you still need to run HARDSLPL to install a cooked ROM?
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Yes. There you got your free answer without needing to search. Everyone gets one.
SIM Unlocking just allows you to put any GSM carriers SIM card in your phone and it will work. HardSPL changes the boot loader so you can update the Roms.

[Q] [SOLVED] Downgrade SPL on TMOUS

Hi, I was just wondering if the method of flashing the Europe ROM to downgrade a 5.10.x.xx SPL could be safely used on a TMOUS phone without unlocking.
Thanks so much for the help, and by the way-I'm not a noob, and actually used to develop very popular Android ROMS. I just decided to move to XDA because of the lack of communication and inefficiency of almost all of the forums I've tried.

ajlunis said:
Hi, I was just wondering if the method of flashing the Europe ROM to downgrade a 5.10.x.xx SPL could be safely used on a TMOUS phone without unlocking.
Thanks so much for the help, and by the way-I'm not a noob, and actually used to develop very popular Android ROMS. I just decided to move to XDA because of the lack of communication and inefficiency of almost all of the forums I've tried.
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if you are referring to SLSPL by ansar, no.
if you have a NoDo restore from Zune, then try this here.
else, you might try this here.

That is what I was referring to, I thanked you, and thanks for the help! Does that mean it would be possible if I unlocked the phone first? I don't have a NODO backup and didn't have any success with the goldcard method, so I would rather just pay for an unlock or call T-Mobile (probably the latter) Thanks again.

ajlunis said:
Does that mean it would be possible if I unlocked the phone first? I don't have a NODO backup and didn't have any success with the goldcard method, so I would rather just pay for an unlock or call T-Mobile (probably the latter) Thanks again.
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to what unlock are you referring to..?
TMO can only SIM Unlock your device... that won't enable you to change Bootloader or install non-Marketplace apps.

I actually am referring to a SIM unlock. The thread tells about how two SIM unlocked TMOUS users were also able to use the same method. I was just asking if this SIM unlock was required, possibly because a Europe ROM would have to be flashed. Thanks again!

ajlunis said:
I actually am referring to a SIM unlock. The thread tells about how two SIM unlocked TMOUS users were also able to use the same method. I was just asking if this SIM unlock was required, possibly because a Europe ROM would have to be flashed. Thanks again!
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SIM Unlock isn't required to change ROM, only XSPL.
did i understand you correctly?

This is quoted from ansar's thread: "Update on 30.12.2011: Two TMOUS users did confirm that after SIM unlock it worked for TMOUS too!!"
The XSPL is what needed to be changed- downgraded from 5.10.x.xx
The method used to do this is flashing a NODO Europe rom with the lesser-versioned bootloader.

i haven't been following the development of SLSPL, but if that is the case, great.
though, i, myself, wouldn't attempt it.
best of luck to you.

Thanks for all the help

ajlunis said:
Thanks for all the help
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welcome, glad i could be of help.
remember to change [Q] to [SOLVED] in thread title.