I recently attempted to update the ROM in my Cingular 8125. The process stopped at 95% and I received an "Internal Error". Now, when I turn on the phone, it gets as far as the color RUU screen, and nothing else.
How can I find out if I can repair this situation myself or if I need to take it back to Cingular.
Hopefully you'll give Cingular a little more info regarding this than you gave us.
My psychic advisor is STILL on vacation so I can be of very little help to you, sorry!
What ROM were you running before and what ROM were you trying to flash it with? Did you CID unlock before you flashed?
Sorry - When I posted the 1st message, I was in a hurry...
I am not sure what ROM version was on the device before I attempted to update (I know, I should have paid attention, but I was not). The phone was new from Cingular and I had not done anything else to it besides load a couple of apps (Skype & Agile).
I attempted to run the file RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe that I downloaded from the HTC site. The update go to 95% and I received the error "ERROR [326]: INVALID COMMAND" - This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file." (I have attached a screenshot of the error to this post).
I am not sure what to do at this point.
Thanks,
Chris
Some folks at the Cingular forum are having the same issue with no solution offered.
I'd suggest putting the device into bootloader mode (Holding Record and Camera buttons while soft reseting) and then reflashing. Make sure not to launch any programs while flashing. I also don't touch the device at all as I've noticed the USB connection might slightly disconnect.
Good luck and let us know what happens.
I just tried reloading from the bootloader screen - no luck. Exact same error at 95%. Would it work to try to reload an original earlier ROM? If so, how would I go about trying that?
Chris
I had this same problem.....I went to the cingular site after having the problem. Before installing I stopped all applications then soft reset.
THen after it boots up install the file from cingular. It worked from their site. Not sure what changed but I am not having any problems now with the new ROM.
I had this same problem.....I went to the cingular site after having the problem. Before installing I stopped all applications then soft reset.
THen after it boots up install the file from cingular. It worked from their site. Not sure what changed but I am not having any problems now with the new ROM.
I have re-downloaded the ROM file from the Cingular site (actually it just redirects to the HTC site). Same problem. I cannot get to the point to even shut down any programs because the phone OS does not even load at this point. When I do a soft reset, I get the following (sorry for the blurry image - as you can see my good phone with the good camera is dead...)
I had a similar problem. I posted the fix on another thread and ppl said i was wrong, this wasnt it...but heres what worked for me.
Are you using a usb port on the front of the computer? if so, try pluggin into the ports on the back of your computer. I tried flashing the official rom from cingular a few times using front port and it stopped at the exact same % each time. got the same thing as you, colored bars.
Someone had mentioned to me that front usb ports don't work as well as back ones. give it a try. good luck
from the picture, it looks you have the G4 chip(u can see 2.25 0001)
Thanks to everyone for their input. From the suggestions above, I have tried various USB ports on my laptop and I always get to the same point. I have also called HTC tech support and they are pretty sure I have bricked my phone. I talked to Cingular and they have agreed to replace it. I have also researched the G4 chip issues (looked at the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56408).
Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
xtreme23 said:
from the picture, it looks you have the G4 chip(u can see 2.25 0001)
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I second this observation! :shock:
This makes a major difference on wether or not you can even upgrade.
Search for G4 issues.
The .0001 in the IPS/SPL number will tell you which one you have.
The way I understand it is:
2.25 - G3
2.25.0001 - G4
I think this is the proper way to identify it.
slapper said:
Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
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Chris, LokiwizMSL ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768 ) can SIM Unlock your device. Be sure to read the instructions.
Well - Now I have a new problem. So far, Cingular is refusing to replace my phone - saying that the ROM upgrade voided the warantee. I am still fighting that, but just in case I loose, is there any way to get my phone fixed once it has been "bricked"?
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Well - Now I have a new problem. So far, Cingular is refusing to replace my phone - saying that the ROM upgrade voided the warantee. I am still fighting that, but just in case I loose, is there any way to get my phone fixed once it has been "bricked"?
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If you installed an unofficial ROM then they are correct. You should never admit that you used a ROM that was not provided by HTC.
There are warnings all over this site about VOIDing your warranty.
Since you used the Official Update they are wrong.
Same problem with official Cingular 8125 ROM
I tried to flash the official Cingular ROM from the HTC site here:
http://www.htcamerica.net/docs/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe
I got the same error at 95%:
"Error [326]: INVALID COMMAND This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file."
When I reset the phone I get the RGB bootloader screen and nothing else.
My phone is a G4 and was running ROM version 2.25.11.1 WWE before. The reason I tried to apply this ROM is because there was apparently no Extended ROM. None of the customization cabs executed on a hard reset. Also, in Device Information, there was no "ExtROM" listed.
This is the second phone that this has happened on. I thought the first time was just a fluke thing and I had a bad phone. But now I think there is an issue with this ROM.
Anyone have any idea what is going on here with this ROM? Does the fact that there was no Extended ROM have anything to do with this ROM not flashing properly?
Is there anything else to try or do I need to try to return the phone (AGAIN)?
how to fix the problem
read this thread carefully. The upgrade problem seems to be occuring on G4 chipped Wizards with the most current IPL/SPL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
take the official update. run it, when it finishes extracting look for the extracted NBF file in your
C:\Documents and Settings\yourusernamehere\Local Settings\Temp\the newest directory just made
find the NK.NBF file
extract it using the tutorial in the post above you will be flashing with the official cingular components sans IPL/SPL.
flash it and your are back up and running
I would have posted this earlier but i had to make sure it worked and was repeatable.
I think the problem with the new update is the new IPL/SPL version checking. It seems that if the patcher sees the same version already running it will give you that error at 95%. I've seen it on 3 phones already and I have been able to fix them by doing what i've told you above. You are already in bootloader mode and your phone is ready to accept a new rom anyways. My solution may not be the best for your phone and take no responsibilites but you are already desperate and need a fix. Good Luck!
Thanks for the reply, evilito. Since I hadn't gotten any replies for a few days, I decided to go ahead and try to exchange the phone at the Cingular store. They were baffled that this was the second phone I had returned for the exact same problem, but gave me a new phone anyway. I wish now that I had waited so that I could try evilito's solution to see if it works. As it is now, I am too scared to try any flashing on this new phone after my results with the first two. I would really hate to have to try to return a third phone
Can anyone else verify that there is a problem with the latest Cingular ROM when flashing a G4? Or did I really have two bad phones?
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Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
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Thats good to know, I thought that when we unlocked it and updated the ROM we lost Warentee Support. Where can you get the official Cingular 2.25 ROM. I am still on 2.17.
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Hi All
I have a SPV M2000.One day the phone stopped working. Everything was all right, it did ask for pin but then didn't even looked for network,was immediately saying NO SERVICE. I tried few sim cards - the same.
So then I wanted to reinstall the ROM, I downloaded the official from Orange UK , tried to install it,and it shows ERROR 114, Radio Rom Upgrade Error.
And the phone now is in bootloader mode and I can't do anything!
I downloaded different ROM from xda-developers ,at the beggining with a country error, but i managed to fix it and now with this ROM it's the same thing. ERROR 114. I tried everything, hard,soft reset, Pc reset etc. Nothing works!PPC still in bootloader mode!
Please tell me if you know what else can I try!
Guys,come on,really noone knows???
Have you read WIKI? Follow the first method to flash your ROM. Have you remembered to plug in your power supply to your cradle when you flash your device?
Heres another thread on NO SERVICE Plz help... No Service after radio upgrade. Happened to me. Read it and see the advise by MDAIIIUser and TheLastOne. If all else fails, bring it to the shop.
I had a very similar problem....
First I tried to update a whole package that means rom, extended rom and radio
The radio update is always the first one and there always upgrade error 114 occured.
So I updated every part seperately and it works except the radio. So I tried alot but it just didn't work..even downgrading was impossible. MDAIIIuser and happy goat tried to help me as well as they could but nothing had an effect.
So I read in another forum that asus mainboards have some problemes with these radio updates....I thought they were joking...but I tried the radio pdate at another pc and it worked!
I know it sounds a bit stupid but I was desperate and at last it worked!
You can read it here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=89657#89657
TRied that method.Doesn't work
Any other ideas?
One more thing.Is it normal that in bootloader mode when I plug the power cable in the charging LED is not working?it was working before.
The battery is charged ,but shouldn't it show that the power is connected anyway?
EDIT: this is a reply to the first answer.
So you think I should try on another PC?I will today!Hopefully it will work.
So I managed to install new rom on a different computer! I think that there was a problem with active sync.I used the one that was installed from my old XDAII.Could that be the reason?Now i installed the one provided with a M2000.
But it doesn't work anyway
Still NO SERVICE message.
ANy other ideas different than taking it to Orange?
Hi rottie,
No Service could mean anything. Could your SIM card be faulty? Device SIM locked? Or hardware faulty? You cannot just use any ROMs you find at ftp. Try to flash your device with full shipped rom at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade. Use the first method and upgrade using MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to bypass the Country code error. Remember that you'd need to run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe twice.
Read wiki carefully, it has alot of precious information. Cheers ^^
Before you update any version you should be sure that your radio is
compatible with your device. Usually all radio upgrades should be
independent off the language of the device but as I understood (could be
wrong) there are differences because of the servicenetwork frequency.
So you must be sure that the chosen radio is compatible and that your
device is not simlocked.
So perhabs you should chose an upgrade of your provider.
But perhabs itis better not to risk your guarantee of your provider by
using updates or components of other providers! Because there could be
the possibility that your device is damaged and you should bring it back!
Good luck!
Guys, you get me wrong.I'm not trying anything what I'll find.
1)One of the ROMs that I tried and the one that I left now is a ROM downloaded from orange.co.uk for SPV M2000. So there can't be any incompatibility, don't you think?
2)I have 2 sim cards,both from Orange,I was using both of them before in my M2000 which is sold only through Orange so there can't be any simlock problem,don't you think?
3)I used only that orange ROM, original and the I-Mate one.None of them were working good,always NO SERVICE.
I bought the phone second hand,with box,all accessories etc. But I don't have a receipt :? And of course have lost the guy's number.That's why I want to try everything before going to the service.
I think this phone is network blocked, probably been reported damaged or stolen, once the insurance or replacement is issued a block is put on the imei of the phone that was subject to claim.
I have never flashed this phone with any kind of alternate firmware, yet when I go to run the official one from HTC, I get this at 8-% exactly, on 2 diffrent phones:
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ERROR [326]: INVALLID COMMAND
This NBF file cannot be used with for your PDA Phone. Please check you NBF file.
_______________________________________________________________
Then the phone turns into a brick. All it does is show the Tri-Color test looking screen untill try to flash again...
Any suggestions?
What phone do you have?
Whoops....
Sorry... I posted this in the wiz forum and didnt even think to put my phone model....
Cingular 8125
Thank you!
Re: Official Cingular 8125 2.25 Update ---Problem---
pittaman said:
I have never flashed this phone with any kind of alternate firmware, yet when I go to run the official one from HTC, I get this at 8-% exactly, on 2 diffrent phones:
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ERROR [326]: INVALLID COMMAND
This NBF file cannot be used with for your PDA Phone. Please check you NBF file.
_______________________________________________________________
Then the phone turns into a brick. All it does is show the Tri-Color test looking screen untill try to flash again...
Any suggestions?
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If you are attempting to flash the official ROM on an 8125 and getting this error, there's some bad juju goin on.
Just to be sure, you got the following ROM, correct?
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/software_downloads_8125.htm
I’ve downloaded that so many times my browser is upset at me. There must be a lot of bad JuJu... because It has tanked 2 different phones.....
I’ve taken your 2.3 update, and ran it... It went though... got to 98 and turned red on the phone... finally went to 100% and rebooted... but it was still at 1.8... but at least the phone works again... I really need the push e-mail though... and would prefer to use the official update... or a close derivative..
You should CID unlock first before you apply any ROM found in this forum.
If your phone is virgin, i.e. never been updated to a non official ROM, you will be fine going from 1.8 to this ROM and you would not need to CID unlock. I have gotten an nbf error before, but it was from an attempted downgrade to the stock 1.8 ROM from Summiter's 2.17 release.
Check your OS version and report back.
I know it says you have never upgraded before... If you're still having problems, just take it back to the store, we bricked a phone stuck on the 2.17 ROM and returned it with no problems. Apparently the 8125 does not like animated themes (not my idea, but it did have entertainment value).
Could there be something up with my PC if it bricked 2 seperate phones? WOuld it be possible to fix em with a diffrent PC? and do you think a Cingular store would update the firmware on the phone if it wasnt broken already?
pittaman said:
Could there be something up with my PC if it bricked 2 seperate phones? WOuld it be possible to fix em with a diffrent PC? and do you think a Cingular store would update the firmware on the phone if it wasnt broken already?
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There's always the possibility of a virus causing issues, but it's exceedingly remote.
If the phone is working you should be able to bring it into any Cingular store and have them do the update for you.
pittaman said:
Could there be something up with my PC if it bricked 2 seperate phones? WOuld it be possible to fix em with a diffrent PC? and do you think a Cingular store would update the firmware on the phone if it wasnt broken already?
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I concur with gamescan that it might be a virus, or some crappy spyware. I don't think however that you've "bricked" your phones as you WERE able to install sumitter's 2.23 OK. Of course since you didn't SID unlock you didn't get the full upgrade. I disagree with those who insist that you don't need to unlock. Mayhaps you don't need to but I know that sumitter and the other ROM gawds here have always suggested so. If I was you I'd downgrade to the 1.05, unlock, then upgrade. I'd also scan your PC with Spybot, maybe AdAware. Also I'd delete my temp files, in the c:\documents and settings\%username%\local settings\Temp. Also empty your temporary internet files. I've seen large temp folders on PC's create all kinds of grief. Just a suggestion.
Steven
chow
Well... I appriciate all your help thus far.
I called Cingular Yesterday ant they sent out 2 replacement phones for free, and I got them today... With the update already in place, so I dont think I'll be playing with unlocking again LOL... But this information is very helpful, as my Uncle has the same phone and needs the push email more than I do. If his phone gets toasted, Ill be here with the results...
Thank you all very much... this is my new favorite place!!!
Not A virus .... its the phone
Apparantly the newer phones have a new flash chipset G4 which is not compatable with the current crop of cooked roms on this site. I think summiter has one that will work but it didn't work for me. I returned my phone for a replacement hoping to get the g3 chipset but to no avail all the new ones are G4 and are unable to be flashed to the custom roms. also you should be able to sim unlock with no issues but to cid unlock you may need to look elsewhere
Re: Not A virus .... its the phone
alynch75 said:
Apparantly the newer phones have a new flash chipset G4 which is not compatable with the current crop of cooked roms on this site. I think summiter has one that will work but it didn't work for me. I returned my phone for a replacement hoping to get the g3 chipset but to no avail all the new ones are G4 and are unable to be flashed to the custom roms. also you should be able to sim unlock with no issues but to cid unlock you may need to look elsewhere
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First, the OP was using the OFFICIAL CINGULAR UPDATE not a custom Rom.
Second, He was upgrading from 1.8 which is a 1.x Rom, this means his phone is indeed a G3 variant as the 1.x Roms only have G3 IPL/SPL.
I had this same experience from a virgin HTC 8125....
I had stop all apps running and recharge my battery. Then disable my sleep and screensaver then it worked.
I am not sure what I have done. I have a cingular 8125 G4. Downloaded the Risidioro g4 rom upgrade and my phone was not probably CID unlocked. Thought that did not matter cause I was able to install Mr Clean ROM couple of months back. I read some users in the forum who successfully upgraded from Mr Clean.
Everything went nice and smooth, the upgrade completed 100% and when it finished and rebooted it stopped at the blue, red screen and got stuck there. I did soft reset, hard reset but every time that blue, red screen comes up and gets stuck.
Has my phone become a "nice but dead piece of furniture" ? Oh! man..that would devastating!
Please help!
BigMonty
All right, no response yet but it is only a hour since I posted but for me it seems eternity already. I did something further reading and got some hope. My phone might not be dead yet. Somebody said, if I can get to the bootloader mode, I still have some hope.
I did some trick on hard resetting found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268836&highlight=dead
but to no avail.
Any other idea?? Cry!! Cry!! Cry!!!
Got another guy who successfully got out of the jail by having a SD image. Do you think it would work for me too? If it works where can I find it? I already e-mailed the guy, seems like a nice guy, let's see if he replies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274471&highlight=dead
Do you see a USB connection if you connect it to Active sync, normally it is showing in the lower left or right corner, I'm not sure.
If so, you should be able to re-flash again, best would be to do this with your previous installed ROM.
Btw,
Spl 2.25.0001
Ipl 2.25.0001
Can somebody suggest what would be most suitable ROM to go for once I am in the bootloader screen?
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Do you see a USB connection if you connect it to Active sync, normally it is showing in the lower left or right corner, I'm not sure.
If so, you should be able to re-flash again, best would be to do this with your previous installed ROM.
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Thanks a lot Vilem for your reply. Yes I see a USB connection..but I guess we can't get to activesync because the OS did not load yet. I had the Mr Clean ROM installed and I tried to go for it but failed. What should I do now? Go for the original shipped Cingular ROM?Anybody knows which version it was and where can I find it?
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I see a USB connection..
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Means connected, try it. Mine crashed a couple of times like that and managed to get it going again.
You mean I should run the Mr Clean update utility which is the last successful ROM update or the orginial Cingular shipped ROM?
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You mean I should run the Mr Clean update utility which is the last successful ROM update or the orginial Cingular shipped ROM?
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try the last succesful.
bigmonty said:
All right, no response yet but it is only a hour since I posted but for me it seems eternity already. I did something further reading and got some hope. My phone might not be dead yet. Somebody said, if I can get to the bootloader mode, I still have some hope.
I did some trick on hard resetting found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268836&highlight=dead
but to no avail.
Any other idea?? Cry!! Cry!! Cry!!!
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Bigmonty - after getting into allsorts of issues after trying to upgrade my G4 to various 3.2 based ROMS, i also got to the bootloader screen with the USB indicator in the righthand corner.
This worked for me - take the battery out for an hour or so, put back in and soft reset. make sure you have a good charge. reboot the PC and plug in the device.
Now the only ROM i can recover a working device from isto use the latest ROM from the phone supplier. in my case from the club i-mate site (my device is SIM unlocked).
hope it helps
Thanks AirWol. I was able to go back to Mr Clean successfully, which was a great relief. What I was doing wrong was, I was using the wrong update utility of Mr Clean. I should have used the one which was modified according to Risidioro guide for use in g4 chips. But I was using the original Mr Clean instead.
BTW, anybody knows whether it is possible to update g4 phones to the latest Risidioro or Cingular 2.26 ROMS? That is, can I modify according to Rididioro guide for use in g4? Anybody?
Probably I haven't learned enough lessons yet!
Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
xeno1 said:
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
So my problem is - I put android on my htc tytn II and it worked (well kinda) but anyway I decided to switch back to Windows Mobile...
I installed 1.27.x.x radio , found a Windows Mobile 6 ROM and put (Like in the instructions ) Kaisimg.nbh(renamed from ruu_signed.nbh) and Kaisdiag.nbh to my SD card and then started flashing... It flashed smth,rebooted automatically and started booting android again...
Then I hold again camera button + power+ reset and since then when I put EVERY .nbh file on my sd card and try to flash it it STUCK on "Loading.." If I try to flash it with USB It stays at 0%.
The only exeption is if I try to flash from USB the rom that I tried to flash before from my sd card.. then it starts 0%..1% and reboot the phone...
P.S: Please help me...I think my device is not Broken but I dont know what should I do to fix it...
To flash back to WM from android put your kaiser into bootloader (multi colored screen) Then connect to usb. Download any WM build that is recent (I suggest Phoenix 3 for this, you can flash whatever you want later). After you download it open and run the included RUU that came with it and it will flash it on there.
hmm, I also had experienced the similar problem on my 1st time flashing back to WinMo.
When you are trying to flash via USB cable and the process stopped at 1% I guess there is also a message about "Invalid vender ID" right?
and if the text in your bootloader (tricolor screen) doesn't mention anything about hard such as "3.29.0000" (not "3.29.hard")
then
you've lost your hard SPL that's why you cant flash any .nbh to your phone.
I had managed to solve this problem by flashing stock WM rom for kaiser. The rom also has to be suitable for your phone, I mean if your kaiser is originally from France, then use French kaiser stock rom. Or if you are using AT&T Tilt use kaiser cingular stock rom.
you can find the list of shipped roms for kaiser here :
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Kaiser/
If you still have the "invalid vender ID" error message, try another stock ROM.
Thanks man you're my hero! I though I lost my phone.. anyway i bought new one - Nokia 2730 Classic but Ill sell the kaiser...
Thanks Anyway ... you're god!
Have the same problem...
Firstly, I'd like to point that the reason for the hard SPL getting overwritten by an original SPL is NOT HAVING UPDATED HARDSPL to a newer version that prevents accidental overwrite. This is instructed in the previous steps before actually installing Android. That was my mistake (I had HardSPL 1.0 OliPof), and now I can't flash no rom to my Kaiser (which thankfully works quite well in Android).
What happens (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that "KAISDIAG.NBH" is a modified, standalone hardSPL that will flash to the phone the SPL that comes with the "KAISIMG.NBH" you put in your SD card with "KAISDIAG.NBH"). In my case, I used the WinMo 6.1 spanish version 3.29.412.0, which, resulted in my phone being flashed with the original SPL 3.29.
Now, it seems many users have fixed this locating the correct stock rom and flashing it in their Kaisers. But to others, like myself, nothing seems to work. I believe that this is because we not only need a stock rom for our specific Kaiser model, but also it has to be compatible with the SPL that accidentally got installed in the phone. The problem is what if such rom doesn't even exists?
I'm really thankfull for all I learned by reading the forums (and from my mistakes ) and I know I'm in no position to make requests, but here goes what I think could help the users like myself to fix this, if posible:
1) Guide to identify what model of Kaiser we have (maybe it's already there, I just couldn't find it)
2) Complete list (or lists) of stock roms (There are some around, those are easy to find I think, but it doesn't hurt to share different sources)
3) Something like a JumpSPL for Android would be more than awesome...
Thanks in advance to everybody, sorry for my own stupidity . Any idea or help would be much appreciated,
Daniel
hmm, I'm not sure if it has to be compatible with the SPL.
In my case, I was flashing a very old WWE stock rom which has original SPL 1.56.
I also had been very desperate because any stock rom I found seems doesn't work and I even didn't know where originally my kaiser came from because I get it from my uncle. So I tried to flash any WWE stock rom I could found but nothing works. I read from Wikipedia that based on my phone model (Kais100), this model was only sold as AT&T tilt for US. But the problem is my phone is HTC branded, not AT&T tilt. Well, based on this information I also tried to flash some cingular stock rom but the result was just the same.
After contacting HTC Customer care, I know more info about my phone. They told me that based on my phone product ID, my kaiser was originally shipped for US, but unfortunately they can't provide me stock rom for my phone model. So I searched myself but this time I had better objective : to search HTC branded rom but for US.
finally, after days of search. I've found the rom that is suitable for my phone. Its called HTC WWE Brightpoint US which has original SPL 3.29 at the bottom of the list on the website I told you on my previous post.
few weeks ago I also accidentally overwrite my HardSPL again, but this time I did it with the stock ROM which has original SPL 3.29. But this problem also solved by flashing the stock ROM I've found before via USB cable.
So, I guess it has nothing to do with spl version.
Keep tying don't give up.
Update: Step 1 completed! YAY
Using the serial number and some obscure google searching, I came to the conclusion my KAIS130 is australian. Cheers, mate!
I verified this by being able to download stock roms from the australian HTC site with my Kaiser serial number. But at the moment of writing this, have downloaded two roms and no luck yet. 5 minutes remaining for the third one... Wish me luck...
Daniel.
Well... Now what?
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
cuartetoraro said:
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
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sorry to hear that..
well, extract the .nbh from exe and flash it via sd card is the method that made me overwrite my hard SPL in the first place.
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
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sorry to hear that..
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
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No, it's HTC unbranded. Now, something strange here: the label behind the battery has the serial number: HT830GB06075 and the P/N (guess it's part number) :99HCY194-00, but to the left of the camera, another label with the part number: 36H00563-00M and below says DATE:061107(TB02)/US.
I don't know if that's normal, but it caught my atention because my phone seems to have been dissasembled (little label over screw is teared). Maybe my Kaiser isn't Australian after all...