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I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((
Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?
I think it was 2.26 (it may have been something like 2.27....), but it definitely didn't have the .000 at the end. I thought that the Wizards without the .000 were G3. Did I screw up?
Madcap180 said:
Mine is a 2.25 and it's a G4.. Isnt 2.26 a G4?
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2.25.0001 or 2.26.0001 would be a G4
2.25 or 2.26 would be a G3
MacGuy2006 said:
I have a Cingular 8125, which I hadn't used for a while (got a Trinity
I am trying to set it up for my wife, so I attempted to unlock it and upgrade to WM6. It is a G3 (it had 2.26). I had upgraded it several times before. but was never able to bring it down to 1.xx in order to unlock it.
So, I started trying to downgrade it, but basically, every time it entered bootloader, it seemed to lose connection and it just timed out on the PC, without ever going to the update bar on the bootloader screen.
I ran IPL_SPL_3.08, and it upgraded fine. But still no go on downgrading.
Finally, I ran Shelltool (bug fixed) and managed to flash to OS 1.5.4.2. But, after the hard reset, it just stays on the blue Cingular screen (showing IPL 3.08; SPL 3.08; GSM 02.47.11; OS 1.5.4.2.)
I have tried flashing again with an original Cingular WWE ROM (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe), with the 1.5.4.2 ROM, even with a WM6 ROM (again, through Shelltool.) I have placed it in a powered cradle, have tried both Shelltool and RUU flashes, both while in the blue Cingular screen, and while in Bootloader mode. I have disconnected and reconnected each time, and rebooted many times (both the Wizard and the PC.) I have hard-reset. I have also tried both with USB selected and unselected in Activesync.
The Shelltool seems to freeze. The official RUU gives "ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file." Or, alternately, it gives "ERROR [264]: CONNECTION."
Any ideas if this is repairable?
(Or should I cry (or take a hammer to the Wizard:-((
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I thought I read somewhere that IPL/SPL 3.08 was a bad convert from a Charmer? If this is true and the Charmer bootloaders are different than the Wizard bootloaders then you may have put yourself in a bind.
The fact that you can still get past bootloader is promising even though the phone doesn't finish booting.
Try flashing from the bootloader (tricolor IPL/SPL screen with USB in the corner)
Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?
MacGuy2006 said:
Thanks. I've been trying to flash in both bootloader or "blue" screen, but no go so far. I just tried the official Cingular .nbf through shelltool: it spent about 30 minutes (in bootloader,) then it stopped responding. It's been doing this forever now.
Any other options left?
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You CAN'T use shelltool in boot loader mode! it needs the OS and the TRUFFS to read and write to the phone.
Any phone that doesn't go past the boot loader must be fixed with mtty, RUU or SD card...
Thanks for the info. I've been reading about mmty and just downloaded it. But I only have a 4GB card handy (from my Trinity.) I might be able to find my old 2GB one at home.
Edit: Well, this is what I just found: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308772&highlight=mtty+wizard
It seems that the IPL_SPL 3.08 might be a real problem. I'll try the card flash, but based on the above thread, I am not holding my breath.
If anyone has a suggestion or a solution, please let me know.
Thanks!
BTW, if the problem is indeed with the IPL_SPL 3.08, then perhaps the suggestion that we upgrade to it (in red) here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 should be removed, so that we don't get more expensive bricks.
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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After I unlocked my wizard and before I try any new ROM, I always burn the latest German wizard ROM with 3.08 IPL/SPL "ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship". Then I downgrade the Radio ROM to Cingular 2.25.11. Then I burn my ROM of choice. I've found it works best for me. I've never had a problem with 3.08.
TaurusBullba said:
Just to clear up the question about 3.08 IPL/SPL, it isn't an issue at all. It's been tested thoroughly to work well, better than 2.26.
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What are the grounds for such a comparison? How to tell that an SPL works better than another? As far as i know the SPL is there to initialise the hardware and to apply security restrictions.
What i'd like to know is if anyone has been successful in downgrading IPL/SPL from 3.xx to 2.xx as itsme once said that there was a security in newer SPL's preventing downgrading (i must look for it...)
cheers
O.K., so maybe it's not 3.08, but something has sure gone bad.
I am trying to use mtty 1.1.42.538, but see only Port 1, Port 2 and USB. When I type in \\.\WSCUSBSH001 I get a message that it cannot open the \\.\WSCUSBSH001 port.
I tried resetting as described in message #7 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=264652&highlight=mtty1.42, but nothing happened.
I also tried choosing USB, then typed in r2sd all and again, nothing happened - I just get CMD> again....
So, can anyone think of anything else I can do, or should I just drop it from the 4th floor?
What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?
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What IPL/SPL values you have at this moment?
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Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.
MacGuy2006 said:
Both ar 3.08, and I have the feeling that this is why I cannot flash the official Cingular ROM over what I have now. Which makes me wonder: is there an official Wizard ROM file combined with the IPL/SPL 3.08? This may at leas allow me to flash.
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I had also upgraded my IPL/SPL to 3.08 -- up from the 2.25 on the newest Cingular ROM.
Anytime I've flashed to a WM6 ROM, I've been able to downgrade to the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM -- which changes the IPL/SPL to 2.26 -- with no problems before upgrading to a WM6 ROM. After flashing the WM6, I then go back in and upgrade the IPL/SPL once again to 3.08. It's not failed me yet.
O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?
MacGuy2006 said:
O.K., I've spent the weekend screwing around with this:
If I run any of the original 2.xx ROMs, I get "you need an updated utility" message and then the utility goes to the "Exit" screen. (I am assuming this is because of the 3.08 IPL/SPL.)
mtty tells me I don't have permissions when I tried to load the ROM on a SD card (remember, the 8125 is not SuperCD-ed.). It also does nothing when I type "set 14 0" or "task 28."
But, I found that I can run the XDA Mobile 6 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954) and it actually starts updating, but when it gets to 99%, the bar on the 8125 turns red and after a while the Update Utility tells me that the Wizard is not connected anymore.
Got very excited when I tried mattk_r's InGeNeTiCs' ROM(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311144): it started updating, went all the way to 100%, at which point the bar on the 8125 did turn red, however after a period of time the utility gave me the "Congratulations" message and told me I've successfully upgraded. But then, the 8125 reboots, and unfortunately, it still hangs on the boot screen, and it still gives the OS as 1.5.4.2. Have tried a number of times, always the same:-(
Oh, I tried upgrading the Radio only, and it worked: I was able to upgrade to 02.61.11.
So, does it seem like there is hope, and can anyone think of what else I can do?
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If I were you I might be talking to IMEI unlockers. Their process works from bootloader and might be able to get you CID unlocked and fix your corrupted CID area, which seems to be your major problem atm. In any case I would contact them and explain your situation and see if they think their software will unlock your phone. If so then you should be good to go once you CID is "uncorrupted" and unlocked.
one question: can You HARD RESET your device?
Do you have "format failed" message?
if so, you have 50/50 per cent for resurrection.
3.08 is not direct problem here anyway..., version is not exactly matter of problem...
(imei? now? lol)...
Thanks!
Yes, I can hard-reset fine and it claims to reformat fine.
Tx for the suggestion - I will contact IMEI (they unlocked my Trinity before the free unlockers were available
I was upgrading my t-mobile 8150(?) the k-jam with the new windows mobile 6 and in the middle of it my comp crashed!! now i am stuck at the bootloader mode (3 colored screen) and when i try to redo it i get to 99% and get a 302 error message. i follow the instructions given but keeps going in circles. its a G3 so is my phone bricked or is there a way to save it? i've been looking at this site all day but am now just more confused. lol thanks for your help!
No your phone isn't bricked. As long as you can get into the bootloader screen you should be ok. What you need to do is flash an official carrier rom either tmobile 2.26 or wizard love rom after you that than you can reflash to wm6. look at the stickies in the wizard forums that is where you can find these roms.
Thanks for the info but seems my techno curse continues. I tried the wizard love rom but it was in a different language and whem i tried the tmobile 2.26 i got "error 274 connection." Any more suggestions? Again thanks soo much for an issue I'm sure has been posted here a thouand times.
This happens to me all the time. I always use the Cingular 2.25 rom, it works perfectly and I have an I-mate K-JAM. Then, do the WM6 upgrade, but ensure all of your Norton and Antivirus and background running apps are shut down. Good luck.
yes also take out your mini sd card if you have one. even though its in another language it will work. "AVANTI means next. so just keep hitting that and you will be fine.
hmm been trying to d/l the Cingular 2.25 rom but the link seems to have stoped working...
It;s aaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllliiiiiiiiiiivvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! for now lol Lets see what happens after i install wm6 I couldn't get the cingular rom but i had already dowbloaded the button rom i found here earlier and it worked like a dream!! quick and easy!! thank you all soooooo much!
hi all. one more little thing. after adding the new rom to get it back to life, now the numbers don't match so i can't upgrade to wm6. i have ipl 1.01 spl 2.26. advice?
flash to the tmo 2.26 or cingular 2.25...that will give you an IPL/SPL of 2.xx
then, you can flash to WM6
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there's any other way to flash without usb cable?? sorry to bug in this thread but i lost my usb connection somehow and did a hard reset and still doesn't work. my phone charges. and no is not my computer cuz my wifes phone same as mine does sync i have a tmobile mda also known as the cingular 8125.
fallon75 said:
hi all. one more little thing. after adding the new rom to get it back to life, now the numbers don't match so i can't upgrade to wm6. i have ipl 1.01 spl 2.26. advice?
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keep reflashing buttons rom until both ipl/spl are the same number. if they are different, then the flash didn't complete correctly. (it happens often, so it's kinda normal). just keep reflashing. after both ipl/spl are the same, then CID unlock and then update to an official carrier...then flash a wm6.
can anyone help me??
Check if "USB" displayed when in bootloader mode (Camera+reset) with Wizard connected to PC.
If so, you may try to flash another ROM through bootloader.
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Check if "USB" displayed when in bootloader mode (Camera+reset) with Wizard connected to PC.
If so, you may try to flash another ROM through bootloader.
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it does shows but how can i flash?? it still won't connect o my pc. my pc doesn't recognize it. but it does recognize my wifes phone.
Try to run RUU straight with Wizard connected and running in bootloader mode
have a charmer. I tried to put wm6. but spl and ipl was 1.12. the phone start up and hang when installing some cabs. i restart ir and it allways crashes at t-mobile logo. i updated the rom to aku 3.3. all ok. but continues chashing on t-mobile logo. i try a hard reset. gives me a fat error. I try to put the rom from prophet to try to format it. but that rom upgrade reach 95% and stop. give me a error. this nbf file cannot be used to upgrade this device. I tryed all types of roms. most of them crashes at some point and give me that error. the rom aku 3.3 german and wwe, install perfect. I think that is the only roms I can send to my charmer. but i can´t format whith that rom, fat error. I have 3.08 spl ipl 1.12 because i sent an old charmer rom. ipl downgrade, but spl don´t. do you think my device can be protected?? I dont know that to do more, to bring the charmer back to life. will sd card method work? please help me.
Charmer dead after wm6 update whitout cid unlocking
Hi @all
i have the same problem.
iam stuped and make an wm6 update from ipl1.12 and i have forgot to cid unlock my charmer.
after the update to wm6 all looks like good. the bootscreen from wm6 i have see.
after the reset the charmer hangs at slashscreen.
now i make a update to aku 3.3 ger.
that works but hangs in the t-mobile spaschscreen.
i have tray all downgrading methodes i have read here but nothing works.
jet i have a ipl 1.12. and spl 3.08.
I think only a sd-card rom update works. but i dont have found an sd-card rom to use.
sorry to my bad english.
please can anybody help me?
cu AxelD
Is my phone already dead? Please help me!
Hi, I have a similar may be the same problem!
My phone is a German t-mobile mda compact 2
First I work with “lokiwiz v.02” to unlock the SIM, and it works really well.
Then I installed “Charmer_Touch_ver._2.1” and I could calibrate the screen, and after that Win Mobile 6 installed all the extra stuff automatically. After that the device made a reboot, but it stop at the t-mobile boot screen.
Because the bootload modus is still running, I installed the newest original t-mobile software “RUU_compactII_AKU3.3_38222_382117_026921R_TMO_DE_GER_Ship” but this also didn’t solve the problem.
Hard reset didn't work and always says "Format is
The Start screen shows me this information:
IPL 3.08
SPL 3.08.0000
GSM 02.69.21
OS 3.8.2.22
Is my phone really dead or could someone tell me a trick to reactivate it?
I think noone have a solution for us. I tried to send commands to phone whith mtty. and I can´t send. I don´t know why. so f we cannot send commands the sd card method will not work too. the only olution is to jtag the charmer. but can´t find any pinout information. if anyone knows this informtion, please help.
Hi everyone.. First post and I think this is a great site. I've managed to flash a wm6 rom to my Orange SPV m700, and although it worked great for a while, I decided to flash my radio rom (initially 1.16.00.00) to 1.50.08.11 not a great idea it would seem, as after a successfull (so it seemed) flash and a reboot, the I now appear to be missing both a radio rom and a gps rom!?!
Can anyone help? I've tried flashing back to a 'orangeuk' WM5 backup (created by someone on this this forum) and I'm having no luck what so ever. The downgrade to WM5 stalls at 82%. My gut suspicion is that it's failing at the radio rom, and I can (sort of) prove this when trying to flash the radio rom - it fails at 0%
PLEASE HELP
Update on this.
Downgraded from 1.30 Hard SPL to 1.20, tried flashing Radio Rom, again no joy. Have also attempted upgrade from SD card - again no joy.
Anyone?, Anyone?... Bueller?.. Anyone?
Just to add, there's no Radio/GPS or IMEI number.. I've seen other people with the same problem but no 'real' guide to fixing..
Just tried (on a whim) to downgrade the radio software down to to 1.16.00.00 using the SD card (basically trying to use Pof's unlocker radio rom) but still no joy, using the SD card just get's about 10% of the way along the progress bar and stops..
I'm struggling here folks
k0pp0 said:
Just tried (on a whim) to downgrade the radio software down to to 1.16.00.00 using the SD card (basically trying to use Pof's unlocker radio rom) but still no joy, using the SD card just get's about 10% of the way along the progress bar and stops..
I'm struggling here folks
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Try Des' Crash Proof SPL in my signature.
i have same problem .... can't find a solution if you manage to fix it please post
Never did get this working, ended up having to get a replacement phone.. Just debating trying it again, as my current (white) Orange SPV M700 hangs nearly every saturday (bizarre).