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Software to put BA in bootloader Mode

My powerbutton is broken so I can't put my phone in bootloader mode anymore. I've got WM5 installed and activesync 4.1. Does anyone know if there is a possibility to put my phone in to bootloader mode without using the 3 button combination? Like with software or something?
BTW I must say that WM5 works just fine with me!

the power button broke on my xdaiis and I took the thing
apart and realigned switch..
all great since.. you need the swith to turn the screen bcak on

The thing is that the button had come off totaly. When I opened the phone it fell out. Somehow the button was damaged too, so it can't be pressed anymore.. The other alternative is to get let it fix, but that will cost me about 80 euro. And I don't need the button for anything else since I havesoftware to turn it off, and the phone also starts (if battery taken out) when you soft reset it. Whith the older versions of windows mobile it would go in to bootloader mode using just the installer, but since WM5 this doesn't work anymore.

dblfun said:
if there is a possibility to put my phone in to bootloader mode without using the 3 button combination?
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The buttons are documented here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelGPIO
and here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelASIC3
You can try to write in the appropriate registers
and look if it helps.

My kaiser died after flash :(

Hi. I tried to flash my kaiser to new Dutty's wm 6.1 rom (had Dutty's v3 before so i had hardSPL) and after the rom update process completed my kaiser died , screen is always black no matter i connect it to charger or push power, is there any possibility to bring my phone back 2 life?

Have you taken the battery out?

Have you tried flashing from SD card?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158&highlight=flash+from+card
Worked for mine when i bricked it.

i have taken battery out , it wont help. also flashing from sd card works only when u can actually power on the device and i cant do it. name of my rom wasnt RUU_signed.nbh it was : Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_5.2.19716_1.64.08.21.nbh maybe thats the reason of error

Well did you try the special key sequence to try to turn it on?

special key sequence? U mean both softkeys and stylus into reset hole?

Can you get it to the HSPL screen?
hold camera button and stylus into reset hole?
If you can to there you can reflash it using the sc card method.

3. Plug the card into the phone, then enter boot loader mode by pressing down the Power and Camera buttons simultaneously, and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the left side. Continue pressing the two buttons for a few seconds after pressing and releasing the reset button until the bootloader screen appears. (taken from Wiki)
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not the soft keys

thanx but it wont work, if i could enter bootloader i would just reflash the rom, but i cant get my phone on, screen is all the time black. if i plug in a charger there is no charging led too.

Ok, so your saying you tried it and it doesn't work?

im saying this doesnt work because my phone is totally dead. i cant get any response, it just wont turn on.

ok I'm taking it that you didn't try that sequence because you won't say that you tried it.

Hell no he/she ain't tried it. Probably has no idea what you are telling him to do.

Well Belizibub told him, I just started reading between the lines and noticed that he never admitted to trying it.
I love your avatar Tater.

can't all read, he can't turn it on, so how is he suppose to enter the bootloader or flash it from the sd card.

how come i try to enter bootloader , the phone is D E A D, it doesnt respond on any key cominations. i cant see even blank screen, nothing, it just wont turn on.

take the battery out and plug it into the charger, if a red light comes on thats a good thing if not then you probably have whats known as a "bricked kaiser" and sent it in for repairs or go buy a new one and save that one for parts.

marcini said:
can't all read, he can't turn it on, so how is he suppose to enter the bootloader or flash it from the sd card.
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LOL, not even worth it.

So let me ask this, Why was this thread started? Was someone seeking help? Has someone provided the possibility of help? Do you think that the devils friend didn't understand that to this requester of help, that his phone appeared to be dead? Or is it possible the Devils right hand man knows something that the requester of help doesn't know and kindly attempted to share it with him, just to have the secret unlock code ignored.
Try up up down down left right left right a b select start.
That will fix your phone.
ps, what I'm getting at is if you haven't tried it then you need to try it. The special key config could possibly turn the phone on for you.

OK, now I see this same conversation going on in 2 different forums by the same person. Here and in Dutty's latest 6.1 release.
I noticed you are an Orange user. I have seen Multiple Orange users trying to flash radios to their phone and locking them up. I suggest looking/searching for one of those threads and see if they have a solution.

[Q]Please help, I am desperate.

Today I needed to perform a restore from a backup (using Sprite backup), but when the unit rebooted, it won't progress beyond the "smart mobility" screen.. There are the usual orange numbers in the bottom right of the screen, but it doesnt boot beyond that
I have tried hard resetting it (press both vol up and down, then power on) but I cant get to the screen that says caution you are about to hard reset the device etc etc..
Can someone please help me? This has really got me depressed. I paid a lot of money to get this imported from the UK (I live in Australia), and have found the unit so damn valuable/useful to date..
If anyone has any thoughts / ideas, please help..

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Today I needed to perform a restore from a backup (using Sprite backup), but when the unit rebooted, it won't progress beyond the "smart mobility" screen.. There are the usual orange numbers in the bottom right of the screen, but it doesnt boot beyond that
I have tried hard resetting it (press both vol up and down, then power on) but I cant get to the screen that says caution you are about to hard reset the device etc etc..
Can someone please help me? This has really got me depressed. I paid a lot of money to get this imported from the UK (I live in Australia), and have found the unit so damn valuable/useful to date..
If anyone has any thoughts / ideas, please help..
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Well, I can't actually see your device, however, relax Bro., the HR procedure on the HD is a bit tricky, took me a couple of trial/errors to perform successfuly, but finally I got it right.
Take deep breath, do it again following the instructions in the Manual (on CD) and it'll be OK.
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Ahh man, this well and truely sucks. I have tried HR about 40 times now. Nothing.
Can't even power off the device without pulling out the battery.

First which version of Sprite did you use to backup your phone , and second if you know your rom version enter bootloader and reflash it from there.

Woohoo! I accidentally discovered bootloader and flashed a new rom from there.. pity I didnt know what my original rom was, so now I have to re-install everything as sprite seems to corrupt everything whenever I restore (meaning i have to reflash over again)..

wackyD said:
Woohoo! I accidentally discovered bootloader and flashed a new rom from there.. pity I didnt know what my original rom was, so now I have to re-install everything as sprite seems to corrupt everything whenever I restore (meaning i have to reflash over again)..
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For my undersanding only, how did you flash a new rom on your HD as I get the strong feeling this can not be done unless you have the original rom version from your operator.
Thus please explain what rom you used, what is your orginal rom as in what carrier did you get your device from.
Maybe I missed something.

Yeah... show off some of your moderator skills and enligjhten us with some nice fact and details about your flash action. From German to WWE or so ?

lucid said:
Yeah... show off some of your moderator skills and enligjhten us with some nice fact and details about your flash action. From German to WWE or so ?
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I would love to but as you see I can't else I would have a WWE rom on my Swiss device.
So as you see I am in the same boat as you.

I'm pretty sure he just had a matching shipped ROM

wackyD said:
Today I needed to perform a restore from a backup (using Sprite backup), but when the unit rebooted, it won't progress beyond the "smart mobility" screen.. There are the usual orange numbers in the bottom right of the screen, but it doesnt boot beyond that
I have tried hard resetting it (press both vol up and down, then power on) but I cant get to the screen that says caution you are about to hard reset the device etc etc..
Can someone please help me? This has really got me depressed. I paid a lot of money to get this imported from the UK (I live in Australia), and have found the unit so damn valuable/useful to date..
If anyone has any thoughts / ideas, please help..
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When HR, what does it say when you press both vol up and down, then power on?
did you do HR in power off? or you may try HR after reinstall the battery.
I have not met this, just my suggestion.

the reinstalling battery trick seems to work
I had tried several times to hard reset my stock ROM and finally got it to work by taking out the battery then putting it back in, then first thing hold two volume buttons and press power button on top. Weird how difficult that is!

Yes hard reset is tricky with the buttons... Now I can get it to hard reset quite easily.
1. Press both vol up & down and keep them depressed.
2. Now press the power button briefly while step 1) vol up + down is still depressed. Very important do not press the power button for too long otherwise it won't work. Just press and release...
3. Release the vol up + down keys when you see the red/blue/green stripes on the screen.
4. Follow on screen instructions

Lost Button & Keyboard Functionality

Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.

dam1en said:
Started experiencing a strange issue with my tilt today..
When I soft reset it loads the Today screen, and then attempts to search for the contact 'wszx' (these keys are located next to each other). After this I can navigate the phone just fine using the touch screen, but the only buttons that work are the directional and center buttons located on the front of the phone, and the arrow keys on the keyboard. I cannot type at all using the keyboard, and pressing any of the other buttons does nothing (except the directional/center/Power). I also cannot Hard reset because the two soft-keys do absolutely nothing. I've hard reset in the past but it no longer works.
So am I SOL? I think I've tried everything.. and now I have a custom rom, etc on the phone and I have no way of getting it back to factory rom without the ability to hard reset.
Thanks for any help.
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Sounds like a hardware issue or simply a bad flash. Have you attempted to reflash the rom? Which rom are you using?

Well...
It wasn't working again this morning, but suddenly - out of nowhere - began to work properly. I'm stumped. If I ever figure out the exact issue I'll be sure to post back.
Thanks

Greetings,
I have same problem on my tytn...
Sometimes it suddenly starts working fine, but shortly it breaks again.
I have tried hard-reseting while it was working, but didnt help.
I think the problem appeared after charging my phone with a motorola v3 charger, so maybe it damaged my phone with over-voltage or something...
Anyway, if someone can suggest something i would be very grateful!

Hi I have exactly the same symptoms with my HTC Tytn II...when you power it on it starts typing letters (in my case CEDF). If the recording button is active it will start recording too. This happened suddenly and I haven't used any other charging apart from the usb and wall socket charger supplied with it.
All buttons (except front center key) and keyboard do not work. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much. This phone is only 8 months old.

Hi,
my Kaiser with dutty's WM6.1WWE ROM did the same this morning Yes I disabled the button 6 and stopped the voice recordings but all the hardware keys but few in the center of the keyboard are not responding. So I cant make or receive calls without taking the stylus out and touching the screen soft buttons andd that's pin in the ... while I am driving. I am using this ROM for almost a year now and I am extremely hapy (up to now) with its performance. When it all happened there were no activities on the phone - I woke up from a SMS notification (Yes I did receive an SMS from my bank) followed by repeting Voice Recordings. Any help will be highly appresiated! Thanks in advance!

keyboard problem
I am experiencing a similar problem with my stock tilt my keyboard does work however none of the text appears on the screen. I have tried hard reset and everything else I could think of, short of a clear storage reload. I would appreciate any help or suggestions from some of you more experienced users.
Bisonwill

anyone ever figure this problem out? im having the same thing happen now.

Same here
I've had it for a couple of weeks now.
I'm running WM6.1 from HTC (rom ver.3.29.422.1 from 2009-01-12) so nothing fancy here.
I even ordered and replaced the D-Pad and I replaced the keyboard (just the sticky part though). I totaly dismantled the phone and didn't find any issues with the cables.
Any ideas would be highly appreciated

Join the club!
This is crazy. My problem is exactly the same. I re-romed to the latest phoenix and it did not change a thing.
Help!

help....
any body here found a solution for the keypad/keyboard yet??? i have the same problem as you guys... any idea, thanks so much...

i have the same problem And there is something else. My Kaiser wakes up every 2 minutes - it's killing the battery. It works only for 6 hours now

Help
bump!!!
No more people with this issue or any solutions?
Pls! Help

ive joined the gang!
I decided to flash my cooked rom ive been working on.
i hadnt changed much in the kitchen and i think the flash has went badly.
it starts booting windows and where it should state "calibrate screen" it goes white and hangs there, buttons seem to respond by lighting up when pressed.
Now when i try to get it into bootloader or even hard reset it just doesnt work.
it just restarts the phone.
before this happened the backspace key hasnt been working for ages.
anybody got any ideas??
(lucky for me i have a backup kaiser!)

I'm having the same problem. Automatic wakeup, applications starting automatically, can't use keyboard, have to to use screen to use phone etc. I've hardreset using the clear storage method, reflashed a couple of times, but nothing helped. So here I am joining the club

If it's not a hardware issue, then try to flash another radio, many of the custom ROMs here doesn't include a radio, so if it's caused by a wrong radio, flash a new ROM without a radio doesn't help.
Check the Sticky for 'how to' if not aware.
PS: Check here for something need to know..

The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.

Danhargreaves said:
The question is.... how do I flash the device if I cant get it to go to boot loader and the OS wont boot properly !?
I think its an official Brick!
the really odd thing I've discovered is sometimes the OS leaves the loading screen on, and when it does if I press the FN and folder key, I get explorer up but its not responding... I haven't tried inserting a memory card yet to see if I can access that.
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Try this:
1. Take out the battery from the phone.
2. Take out SIM card and SD card.
3. Press in and hold the CAMERA button.
4. Plugin to your computer using the USB cable, while keep holding press in the CAMERA button.
See does it enter the BOOTLOADER mode.
Once entered the BOOTLOADER mode, you can flash a new radio or rom right from there, in your regular way of running KaiserCustomRUU.exe.(Since you already have a HardSPL flashed on, otherwise a HardSPL is needed to flash first.)
Good luck.
Edit: If the power button and the camera button is still working, you can use the regular way of entering BOOTLOADER mode, and flash from bootloader mode or flash from SD card.
Originally posted by Manpreet @ www.sakajati.com
To enter in bootloader mode:
Simply Switch off your phone. Press and hold camera button and also press and hold the power button..You can remove ur finger from power button when phone is switched on but keep holding camera button until u come to bootloader …Now attach the usb to ur computer and do the flashing you normally do.
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Thx for your suggestion:
I tried removing battery as sim and sd were already removed due to previous attempts in fixing!
so:
i removed battery (did not put back in), plugged in while holding camera
got nothing, so held power button at same time, the green light came on, then went off, and came back on again. but no bootloader.
i tried same procedure with battery in, and all i get is the OS loading up, no bootloader no matter how long i hold the buttons.
is there any other alternative method to get into bootloader (possibly involving other button presses)?
or any other ideas.
Really want to fix this as it was my "experimental" phone for cooking roms with.
Thanks again.

Suspect you have some hardware issue with the camera button. Can you ever take a photo with it?
Edit: Did you read through every post onthis thread:
MTTY (How to fix a bad ROM flash!)
If you tried that and still no luck, you can post your questions there. There are masters will keep an eye on that thread. And generally they only have time to look into their 'subscribed' threads, chances are they will not look into here.
Edit: Maybe the procedure I told is wrong, since I call from memory, check this:
dwny said:
If you have a bad flash....that's no reason to worry.
I haven't had to use MTTY to recover.
In most cases, if there's no issues with the Rom itself...you can pop out the battery and re-flash the same ROM from BootLoader Mode. This will also work if for some reason your computer crashes or loses power & restart during the FLASH.
If the Rom has issues.....the flash will not complete and the device will be stuck in BootLoader Mode. At this point,you must FLASH a FACTORY ROM!!
Pop the battery off 1st, power up the device, device will power up in BootLoader Mode, connect to pc & FLASH your devices FACTORY ROM. This will restore your device back to it's original out the box settings.
The above only works if the device has been put through the Hard SPL or SuperCID process.
I personally have never tried to flash a cooked ROM without unlocking any of my devices. From what I've read what others have experienced...the flash would just fail and they're stuck in BootLoader Mode.
Myself ... I've experienced bad flashes, bad cooked roms that I've cooked, lost power to a pc & had my pc crash during a flash. Listed above is how I've recovered. There is life after Bootloader Mode.
The only time you have to worry is if your device does not power up at all
As a public chef...it's your responsibility to set the parameters of your ROM! Meaning, Radio, HardSPL, program conflicts, etc.
You are not ultimately responsible if someone bricks their phone but if they pushed the issue, you could be hit with some form of liabilty because you failed on providing a simple Disclaimer that sets the expectation.
I hope I've been helpful.....
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Edit again:
And try like:
Plug in USB first, and thenn press & hold Camera, Power button etc.
I remember once I read there is a way to enter bootloader without battery, just can not find the original again.

treo 750 freezed at bootup

Hello, i just got a Treo 750 that just freezes a boot up, i can see logo at start and charging bar, but at the end of charging bar sudently stops, im looking a way for flashing it but i cant by usb because pc doesnt detect in this state, in boot mode it does detects but doesnt flash, im just begining with this, im pretty new flashing this kind of phone, if somebody can help me to solve this i would be thankfull.
BR. Masterunlocking

hey im having the same problem, i thhink theres a way to flash it using a bootup method from the phone but it hasnt been working for me. theres a link here http://rapidshare.com/files/89355384/Treo750_WM6.1_WWE_Lite.rar
but i tried it out just leaves my phone in the rainbow screen, dont think its installing anything. maybe you can give it a try see if it works. found the link on this on this page 3rd post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441785
if anyone can help with the install of 6.1 using this method, i was already on 6.1

GOT IT!! check this link out, all you need to do for a hard reset is hold the red power button and press the reset button which is right by the memory card slot just pull up the memory card cover and youll spot it, just press it with the stylus. keep holding the power button till you get the option to erase all your data and press up
http://kb.palm.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,kb=PalmSupportKB,t=ooccase,case=obj(887)#hard